2012/10/28 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
+1 for updating documentation.
Would make sense for the bug squad to register the proposal. I don't
think it would be
+1 for updating documentation.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Perhaps there is a much simpler solution. Notation reference, 1.3.1 is where
I got the example which I have been using since at least 2.12, because
centering such a new dynamic is
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Kevin Patrick Barry barr...@tcd.ie wrote:
Dear LilyPond users,
I have found the recent debate about the difficulty of using LilyPond
interesting and would like to offer my experience, as someone who has
been using it for about six months. I apologise if this
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Perhaps there is a much simpler solution. Notation reference, 1.3.1
is where I got the example which I have been using since at least
2.12, because centering such a new
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
+1 for updating documentation.
Would make sense for the bug squad to register the proposal. I don't
think it would be suitable in the proposed form but that does not mean
we
On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
It would be very helpful to us if you can find some time to *exactly*
point out what background knowledge you are missing.
Knowing what you don't know is always difficult. However, here's an example
where the answer to my question was a bit
james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com writes:
On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
It would be very helpful to us if you can find some time to *exactly*
point out what background knowledge you are missing.
Knowing what you don't know is always difficult. However, here's an
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
At any rate, in LilyPond 2.16 you _can_ write the above as
rinforzamf =
#(make-dynamic-script
#{ \markup \line { \left-align \normal-text \whiteout \italic rinforza
\hspace #0
Maybe examples can be extended and/or reduced to make them easier
to comprehend.
It's not the examples in the documentation, or at least, I
understand all of the documentation except for the introduction to
scheme, which is fine for me, since I don't use scheme.
Well, as a matter of fact,
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
Maybe examples can be extended and/or reduced to make them easier
to comprehend.
It's not the examples in the documentation, or at least, I
understand all of the documentation except for the introduction to
scheme, which is fine for me, since I don't use
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
LilyPond is supposed to
be useful without having to extend it.
In other words, an a-priori refusal of Scheme isn't helpful if you
want to explore the capabilities of LilyPond.
If you want to _extend_ them. LilyPond is
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
So I ask again: What exactly are the difficulties you have
encountered? What concepts are badly explained, what examples are
`greek' to you, and why? Simply skipping the Scheme code and asking
for a non-Scheme solution isn't helpful either.
Perhaps
james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com writes:
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
So I ask again: What exactly are the difficulties you have
encountered? What concepts are badly explained, what examples are
`greek' to you, and why? Simply skipping the Scheme code and asking
for a
26.10.2012 00:52, David Kastrup:
… 2.17.6 will make a lot of #'xxx and #'(xxx yyy) unnecessary.
… Something like Score.Accidental, previously an
isolated LilyPond syntax element, now has a straightforward and direct
correspondence to Scheme data structures.
Being able to map LilyPond
Am 27.10.2012 14:13, schrieb David Kastrup:
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:
Well, as a matter of fact, LilyPond uses Scheme to extend its
functionality. This won't change.
It is a very unintuitive language to me. But I fear I have to live with
it, when dealing with LilyPond in a bit more
2012/10/25 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Jay Hamilton i...@soundand.com writes:
Janek-
I'm not going to do that. Here's a few reasons why.
Well, obviously I am rather partial here, but I quite disagree with your
assessment here. What you are witnessing on the user list is the
emergence of
On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:15 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
…
What you are witnessing on the user list is the
emergence of power users, a class of users narrowing the gap between
users and core developers. Yes, they juggle with complex material. But
that does not mean that things have actually
On Oct 26, 2012, at 7:11 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com writes:
On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:15 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
…
What you are witnessing on the user list is the
emergence of power users, a class of users narrowing the gap between
users and core
I re-read the learning manual when a major stable version is
released, just to become familiar with any major changes. I know how
to search the notation reference for the contexts or engravers I
might want to modify, and what modifications I can make to them,
because these kinds of changes
Hi James,
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com wrote:
My main issue is that when I don't understand how to do something, while
there might be a way to do it that I could understand, because the power
users are the ones that more often than not respond, I'm
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes:
However, there are often questions that can't be answered in any way
but to delve into Scheme. As recently, for example, when a question
was posed about using \draw-line to make a dashed line instead of a
solid one. AFAIK, there's no simple
David,
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:42 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes:
However, there are often questions that can't be answered in any way
but to delve into Scheme. As recently, for example, when a question
was posed about using \draw-line
2012/10/26 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
David,
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:42 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com writes:
However, there are often questions that can't be answered in any way
but to delve into Scheme. As recently, for
Harm,
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Thomas Morley
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
Hi David (N),
I think the draw-dashed-line-command is worth putting into the source.
If you agree, I will turn it into a patch the next days.
Unbelievable. You must have sent this when I was
2012/10/26 David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com:
Hi James,
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, james james.lilyp...@googlemail.com wrote:
My main issue is that when I don't understand how to do something, while
there might be a way to do it that I could understand, because the power
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
I think some intimidation could be present, but how to do it different?
Not answering?
Or (back to the draw-dashed-line) demonstrating how to do it with:
drawing a small line
some padding
drawing a small line with appropriate offset
Janek-
I'm not going to do that. Here's a few reasons why.
I've been using lilypond since some kind of 1 version. Some of the
stable versions have been baby steps and easy to accommodate and
understand. Many many of the changes that have been taking place in V2
have not been like that. It
Jay Hamilton i...@soundand.com writes:
Janek-
I'm not going to do that. Here's a few reasons why.
I've been using lilypond since some kind of 1 version. Some of the
stable versions have been baby steps and easy to accommodate and
understand. Many many of the changes that have been taking
Hi Jay,
2012/10/25 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Jay Hamilton i...@soundand.com writes:
Janek-
I'm not going to do that. Here's a few reasons why.
I've been using lilypond since some kind of 1 version. Some of the
stable versions have been baby steps and easy to accommodate and
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
With 2.16.0 you could use:
\tweak Accidental #'font-size #-2
The way it looks, with 2.17.6 you will likely have to write
\tweak Accidental.font-size #-2
indeed, an incompatible syntax change. convert-ly will cover it,
though. 2.17.6 will
Am 26.10.2012 00:52, schrieb David Kastrup:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@googlemail.com writes:
With 2.16.0 you could use:
\tweak Accidental #'font-size #-2
The way it looks, with 2.17.6 you will likely have to write
\tweak Accidental.font-size #-2
indeed, an incompatible syntax change.
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