Actually I always thought WordStar was better than WordPerfect and still yearn
for Dos and Basic. Progress is a wonderful thing,
things just get more complex
regards
Peter Gentry
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Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk writes:
Actually I always thought WordStar was better than WordPerfect and
still yearn for Dos and Basic.
Dos? How newfangled. I had to use the debugger to patch the terminal
control sequences for my (text) terminal emulator under CP/M into
WordStar.
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Dos? How newfangled. I had to use the debugger to patch the terminal
control sequences for my (text) terminal emulator under CP/M into
WordStar. Yes, the manual contained the patch locations and
descriptions for the terminal
On 05/12/2013 02:09, Tim McNamara wrote:
Powerful software and simple software are usually mutually exclusive. Compare
Word, Pages and LaTeX, for example. Pages is more elegant but can do a small
fraction of what Word can do. Word can't do a lot of things that LaTeX can.
Word is aimed at
Hi Wol,
imho [Word] STILL hasn't caught up with the dedicated word processing
programs for professionals (such as WordPerfect) which were around in the 80s
- thirty years ago!
Depends on your definition of “caught up”, I suppose. ;)
In terms of the number of people who use it, there’s no
Am 09.12.2013 07:28, schrieb Carl Peterson:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com
mailto:jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in mind.
Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I
think it
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:
Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in
mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I
think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce the downloads
with a couple of paragraphs across the top:
~~
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 00:10 +0100, Federico Bruni wrote:
2013/12/5 Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com
The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in.
Not sure
about the GNU/Linux one.
I would bet that it's not built in.
I just checked, and the
On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:52:08 PM HKT, David Kastrup wrote:
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:
Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in
mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I
think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce the
Am 09.12.2013 10:15, schrieb James Harkins:
Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses
LilyPond internally for creating its output.
I think this is too much to ask people to read on the download page.
The download page should be as simple as possible and direct
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:
Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in
mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I
think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce the
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses
LilyPond internally for creating its output. While working with it,
you will not be exposed to the LilyPond language at
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses
LilyPond internally for creating its output. While working with it,
you will not be
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
** (denemo:6378): WARNING **: Trying to read the pdf file
file:///tmp/DenemoneMNfd/denemoprintA.pdf gave an error: Error opening
file: No such file or directory
starting to generate LilyPond
finished generating LilyPond
which is probably related to the
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 11:51 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 09:52 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
Denemo: this is a GUI application for writing music scores that uses
LilyPond internally
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:15 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 11:51 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
_Very_ frustrating and unusable. Complains about missing libraries when
starting but those
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
I thought I would test out the binary that is on denemo.org and
downloaded it in a virtual machine running a vanilla Debian stable O/S,
the result: it will not even start. The executables ~/usr/bin/denemo and
~/usr/bin/lilypond are present and
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 15:56 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
I thought I would test out the binary that is on denemo.org and
downloaded it in a virtual machine running a vanilla Debian stable O/S,
the result: it will not even start. The executables
On 09/12/2013 06:12, James Harkins wrote:
My flippant response makes it sound like any reasonably intelligent
person would find the right information fairly quickly, casting the
problem in terms of user carelessness. That was a misstatement. My
point is that reasonably intelligent, reasonably
Anthonys Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk writes:
Likewise, I have no trouble using lilypond's *P*D*F* manuals. My mind
is very text-oriented. But I HATE HYPERTEXT. My IQ is off the scale
(not really, but I'm in the top few percent of the population), but
give me a web-site and if what I'm
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Am 07.12.2013 17:17, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
2013/12/7 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
Links and recommendations - fine, great, wonderful. Bundled install? No
way - that's when I'd stop being release manager and when I'd freeze at the
current LilyPond
Am 07.12.2013 23:57, schrieb David Kastrup:
I would imagine that it works best when one instance of Frescobaldi is
able to install several versions of LilyPond. If those in turn try
installing Frescobaldi, this is not likely going to end well.
I would say so too.
Given that Denemo _contains_
2013/12/5 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:17 AM
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
I believe that the most important thing is just to have a powerful
editor installed with LilyPond so that people get the most of
Am 08.12.2013 23:59, schrieb Federico Bruni:
2013/12/5 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
mailto:t.dani...@treda.co.uk
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:17 AM
Janek Warcho? janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
I believe
2013/12/5 Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com
The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in. Not sure
about the GNU/Linux one.
I would bet that it's not built in.
In debian lilypond is recommended, it's not a dependency of denemo:
$ apt-cache depends denemo | grep lilypond
: A thought on Windows Experience
Am 08.12.2013 23:59, schrieb Federico Bruni:
2013/12/5 Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
I agree strongly with both these points. Two things are needed:
a) Augment Fresco on installation to prompt and help users to
download and install LilyPond. I think Urs
Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonmark at ca.rr.com writes:
The Lilypond website presents “Manuals” that when clicked displays a page
that starts with “Text Input … Read this first.”
That hot link goes to a page that has a section titled “Easier editing
environments.” A hot link takes one to a list
: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:30 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonmark at ca.rr.com writes:
The Lilypond website presents “Manuals” that when clicked displays a
page
that starts with “Text Input … Read this first.”
That hot link
On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote:
Mr. Harkins,
Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows
directions.
Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns on the internet.
(As in, you still think people read and follow
Mr. Harkins,
Perhaps my faith is not so much an problem as is your cynicism.
Mark
From: James Harkins [mailto:jamshar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:03 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: A thought on Windows Experience
On Dec 9
On Dec 8, 2013 11:02 PM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com
wrote:
Mr. Harkins,
Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows
directions.
Then you have more faith than I in general usage
Mr. Peterson,
Thank you for your reply and conciliatory suggestion.
Mark
From: Carl Peterson [mailto:carlopeter...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:27 PM
To: jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net
Cc: Mark Stephen Mrotek; Mailinglist lilypond-user
Subject: RE: A thought on Windows
On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:02:31 PM HKT, James Harkins wrote:
On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com
wrote:
Mr. Harkins,
Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows
directions.
Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns
As mentioned earlier, I'm currently trying to review the entry path on
lilypond.org, particularly from the potential new user perspective.
Thank you all for these opinions that I'll take into account.
Urs
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com schrieb:
On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:02:31 PM
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in mind. Although, he
suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I think it could be more
than that. Suppose we introduce the downloads with a couple of
On 06/12/13 00:47, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Since I am not a programmer, I am not sure why, yet when I double click a
.ly file in Windows 7 Frescobaldi opens (rapidly) and displays the code.
I would imagine that when you install Frescobaldi, it updates the Windows file
config such that
On 06/12/13 23:37, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Well, i'm not familiar with this area, but keep in mind that one has
to find a free, open-source solution that works for every platform we
support (Win, Mac, various Unixes) and can be automated. It's not
enough to go and create one installer - we need
2013/12/7 Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net:
On 06/12/13 23:37, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Well, i'm not familiar with this area, but keep in mind that one has
to find a free, open-source solution that works for every platform we
support (Win, Mac, various Unixes) and can be
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes:
On 06/12/13 00:47, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Since I am not a programmer, I am not sure why, yet when I double click a
.ly file in Windows 7 Frescobaldi opens (rapidly) and displays the code.
I would imagine that when you install
On 07/12/13 16:49, Janek Warchoł wrote:
you're probably right. as i said, i don't know this stuff.
Well, in this case I think it's not about what you know -- it's about what you
think is best to do. If it turns out that the easiest way to organize things is
to have one install bundle for
2013/12/7 Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net:
On 07/12/13 16:49, Janek Warchoł wrote:
you're probably right. as i said, i don't know this stuff.
Well, in this case I think it's not about what you know -- it's about what
you think is best to do. If it turns out that the
On 07/12/13 16:52, David Kastrup wrote:
The last time I thought that was when I wanted to compare how much worse
Emacs fared when using it for working on LaTeX files compared to a
specialized simple text editor called Kile or something.
Emacs hit in at over 16MB with my current work session
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net
To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Cc: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
On 07/12/13 16:49, Janek Warchoł
2013/12/7 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
Links and recommendations - fine, great, wonderful. Bundled install? No
way - that's when I'd stop being release manager and when I'd freeze at the
current LilyPond install.
We could have both bundled and unbundled installer.
But right now noone
Am 07.12.2013 17:17, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
2013/12/7 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
Links and recommendations - fine, great, wonderful. Bundled install? No
way - that's when I'd stop being release manager and when I'd freeze at the
current LilyPond install.
Why so categorical? How about
; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
On 06/12/13 00:47, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Since I am not a programmer, I am not sure why, yet when I double
click a .ly file in Windows 7 Frescobaldi opens (rapidly) and displays the
code.
I would imagine that when you install
- Original Message -
From: Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
Am 07.12.2013 17:17, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
2013/12/7 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
Links and recommendations
On 07/12/13 17:14, Phil Holmes wrote:
I've already said I oppose this, and I'll restate this.
I think it's unfortunate that your opposition consists of just saying no,
rather than trying to work out if there are ways to get what you want _and_ get
what other people are suggesting.
For
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Janek Warchoł
janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Cc: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
On 07/12/13 17:55, Phil Holmes wrote:
Patches welcome.
Should I take that as conceding the argument in principle? :-)
I know it's frustrating to see so much discussion and no code, but one reason
people discuss so much is because they want to make sure there is a solution
that will satisfy
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Janek Warchoł
janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Cc: LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
Am 07.12.2013 17:41, schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
I would imagine that when you install Frescobaldi, it updates the Windows
file config such that Frescobaldi becomes the default program with which to
open files with the .ly extension.
Yes, that's the case. I just did an install of Frescobaldi
El 07/12/2013 15:48, Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net
escribió:
I don't see why you assume that. There's no particular reason why you
need an identical bundled install for every platform -- different platforms
come with different expectations on the part of users, so it
From: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 6:34 PM
It's not so much about texinfo but...
... but someone who is an experienced web page designer and/or
JavaScript programmer/user. The separation between content and
presentation is already there due to the very nature
Hi,
2013/12/6 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net:
I did have a very brief look at the home page however
* why are you out-sourcing tracking (google analytics)?
I suppose that when that was decided upon, there may have been no good
free alternatives to Google Analytics.
But now there
- Original Message -
From: Janek Warchol janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:36 PM
The way many Windows installers work is that they present you as a user
with a list of components to select to be installed, of which some will
be
selected (or not) by
From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:16 AM
* why are you out-sourcing tracking (google analytics)?
I suppose that when that was decided upon, there may have been no good
free alternatives to Google Analytics.
But now there is for example Piwik -
Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net writes:
What exactly is not easy to implement in Joseph Rushton Wakeling's
suggestion of an optional frescobaldi install from lilypond's windows
installer?
That very much provokes the answer Patches welcome, but of course that
might already be too
From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:43 PM
Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net writes:
What exactly is not easy to implement in Joseph Rushton Wakeling's
suggestion of an optional frescobaldi install from lilypond's windows
installer?
That very much
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.netwrote:
From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:16 AM
* why are you out-sourcing tracking (google analytics)?
I suppose that when that was decided upon, there may have been no
- Original Message -
From: Carl Peterson
Here is the question that gets to your question: what are the server-side
capabilities of the LilyPond web server? I think one of the issues is that
some of these require backend capabilities that may or may not be
available.
Also, is the code
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
Our server is provided on a goodwill basis, and so we would not want to
use any scripting that might load it.
I was thinking that was the case. This would be a script that would append
all the request headers to a text
2013/12/6 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net:
What exactly is not easy to implement in Joseph Rushton Wakeling's
suggestion of an optional frescobaldi install from lilypond's windows
installer?
Well, i'm not familiar with this area, but keep in mind that one has
to find a free, open-source
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:17 AM
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
I believe that the most important thing is just to have a powerful
editor installed with LilyPond so that people get the most of LilyPond
right away.
For better or worse, I think
Noeck wrote
This editor (lilypad) in Windows is deterrent.
...
Well, when I started working with LILYPOND, I allready had expeciance with
both command line compilers and IDE compilers. So I never tried Frescobaldi.
And I stopped using lilypad very, very soon; immediately after I noticed I
did
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 09:10 +, Trevor Daniels wrote:
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:17 AM
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
I believe that the most important thing is just to have a powerful
editor installed with LilyPond so that people get the
Am 05.12.2013 11:54, schrieb Richard Shann:
The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in. Not sure
about the GNU/Linux one.
Which LP version?
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On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 11:59 +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 05.12.2013 11:54, schrieb Richard Shann:
The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in. Not sure
about the GNU/Linux one.
Which LP version?
I'm not sure, it is built with a cloned GUB, and so can be pointed to
any version
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:42 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes:
Where do I sign up and what do I need to know about the way the
current site works? I cannot write a single line of C++, my Scheme
skills are meager at best (limited mostly to
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:42 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com writes:
Where do I sign up and what do I need to know about the way the
current site works? I cannot write a single line of C++, my Scheme
2013/12/5 Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com:
There are modern tools for web development? Seriously, though, except when
I've been using a package like WordPress, I've pretty much been hand coding
websites for the last dozen years or so, partly because of popular HTML
authoring tools
- Original Message -
From: Carl Peterson
There are modern tools for web development? Seriously, though, except
when I've been using a package like WordPress, I've pretty much been hand
coding websites for the last dozen years or so, partly because of popular
HTML authoring tools
- Original Message -
From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
To: Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com
Cc: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; LilyPond Users lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: A thought on Windows Experience
2013/12/5 Carl
2013/12/5 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
Anyway, what about something like this: a higher-level installer
that installs LilyPond and lets user choose what editing program he
wants to use:
LilyPond files can be edited using different programs.
Tim McNamara wrote:
If you think that Lilypond's web page needs a facelift, then
volunteer to roll up your sleeves and help change it...
Werner Lemberg wrote:
Do you want to work on that? We don't have a specialist
who really likes to dive into the nifty HTML and Java issues
while
Tim and Werner, I would love to, and have considered a few times in
the past. Unfortunately I do not have the time, have no experience
of texinfo, and would probably have to ditch it within the coming
year due to future plans anyway.
It's not so much about texinfo but...
I don't know how
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 11:59 +0100, Urs Liska wrote:
Am 05.12.2013 11:54, schrieb Richard Shann:
The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in. Not sure
about the GNU/Linux one.
Which LP version?
The latest Denemo binary for windows has LilyPond 2.16.2 built-in. But
you can
On 04/12/13 19:02, Phil Holmes wrote:
For me, I'd say that we should not install Frescobaldi as a pre-requisite of
running Lily on Windows. I'm a heavy Windows user, and would not want another
program installed by default. I've not used it, but I do understand that many
people feel it's
On 12/05/2013 05:20 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
The way many Windows installers work is that they present you as a
user with a list of components to select to be installed, of which
some will be selected (or not) by default. There's no reason not to
have Frescobaldi bundled with the
2013/12/5 Ryan McClure ryanmichaelmccl...@gmail.com:
On 12/05/2013 05:20 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
The way many Windows installers work is that they present you as a user
with a list of components to select to be installed, of which some will be
selected (or not) by default. There's
On 04/12/13 17:24, Francisco Vila wrote:
Warning. I this message, Why don't we does not mean do it, you
slave. It means just asking do you think it's a worthwhile idea?
The thread about usability and promoting has forked too much and my
thoughts are somewhat related to both. I am crossposting
- Original Message -
From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
To: LilyPond-User list lilypond-user@gnu.org; LilyPond-Devel list
lilypond-de...@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:24 PM
Subject: A thought on Windows Experience (was: useability, promoting, etc)
Warning. I
I am willing to look at improving the Windows experience, although this
would need to wait until my degree finishes next Summer. However,
there's
one thing I don't know: what should happen when you double-click a .ly
file
in Explorer: open an editor or compile the file? And if the former,
pkx166h wrote
On 04/12/13 17:24, Francisco Vila wrote:
Warning. I this message, Why don't we does not mean do it, you
slave. It means just asking do you think it's a worthwhile idea?
The thread about usability and promoting has forked too much and my
thoughts are somewhat related to both. I
From: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:16 PM
I am willing to look at improving the Windows experience, although this
would need to wait until my degree finishes next Summer. However,
there's one thing I don't know: what should happen when you
double-click
2013/12/4 SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com:
I'm confused. There is a Lilypad for Windows. It comes standard w/ the
LilyPond installation. ?
Yes. But it opens IIRC when you right-click on a ly document, then choose Edit.
This lilypad editor does have a menu entry to compile. So, it is
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
But wait: this has been done. Valentin Villenave dit it once. A bundle
that installed a PDF viewer and a small button panel with all the most
basic operatons. I don't remember if it included a message output.
I was of the impression that LilyPad
2013/12/4 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net:
For me, I'd say that we should not install Frescobaldi as a pre-requisite of
running Lily on Windows. I'm a heavy Windows user, and would not want
another program installed by default.
But you _already_ have another program installed by default: the
2013/12/4 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
The last time this discussion came up, Frescobaldi did not work on
MacOSX. And it comes with its own dependencies. And installers.
Fresco is now in Macports (whatever that means) and I think that means
it is now very easy to install there.
--
Francisco
Am 04.12.2013 19:44, schrieb David Kastrup:
Catering for integration of Frescobaldi would be a real headache. And
the documentation would need adapting as well. That's not to say
anything about the value provided by such an approach, but it would
likely make a lot more sense and a lot less
This editor in Windows is deterrent. When I started, it took several
weeks after I gave LP a second try. The first thing I then did, was
changing the default-opening-program to the standard windows notepad
editor, because the fonts an the look of this LP editor window was so
ugly. An I am glad
Am 04.12.2013 20:56, schrieb Noeck:
IMHO users should always be pointed to Frescobaldi and install it. Could
Lilypond be included in the Frescobaldi download?
As said I wouldn't want to promote that too much because I'm biased. But
if there was an agreement on this it would be quite simple to
On 05/12/13 05:02, Phil Holmes wrote:
I am willing to look at improving the Windows experience, although
this would need to wait until my degree finishes next Summer.
However, there's one thing I don't know: what should happen when you
double-click a .ly file in Explorer: open an editor or
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
2013/12/4 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
The last time this discussion came up, Frescobaldi did not work on
MacOSX. And it comes with its own dependencies. And installers.
Fresco is now in Macports (whatever that means) and I think that means
it
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
Am 04.12.2013 19:44, schrieb David Kastrup:
Catering for integration of Frescobaldi would be a real headache. And
the documentation would need adapting as well. That's not to say
anything about the value provided by such an approach, but it would
Am 04.12.2013 20:24, schrieb David Kastrup:
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes:
Am 04.12.2013 19:44, schrieb David Kastrup:
Catering for integration of Frescobaldi would be a real headache. And
the documentation would need adapting as well. That's not to say
anything about the value
Hi,
a couple of thoughts:
2013/12/4 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:
I find this path tortuous. People double-click
the lilypond icon, and don't see this shell as many of them could
expect. Instead, ugly things happen. Therefore, lilypond is ugly. I
think this summarizes the start and
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
Anyway, what about something like this: a higher-level installer
that installs LilyPond and lets user choose what editing program he
wants to use:
LilyPond files can be edited using different programs. Pleasse
choose what to install
From: Janek Warchol janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:55 PM
Hi,
a couple of thoughts:
2013/12/4 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:
I find this path tortuous. People double-click
the lilypond icon, and don't see this shell as many of them could
expect. Instead,
2013/12/5 Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net:
I also think lilypond's website is terrible. It looks like something out of
the eighties knocked up on a dos machine. By comparison, take a look at the
home pages of musescore, finale and sibelius.
are you visiting http://lilypond.org/ or
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