Re: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

schreven: p.s.  Isn't it also weird that the pedal-off symbol is not horizontally aligned with the pedal-on symbol? On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, Jim Cline wrote: I have a score where the sustain starts in the voice in the bass clef, and ends after the voice crosses into the treble clef.  It

Re: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

horizontally aligned with the pedal-on symbol? On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, Jim Cline wrote: I have a score where the sustain starts in the voice in the bass clef, and ends after the voice crosses into the treble clef. It compiles but with a warning: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain', wit

Re: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

but with a warning: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain', with respect to the sustainOff. The warning goes away if I comment out midi{}. However it would be nice to understand what is giving rise to the problem. I tried keeping the sustainOff in the bass clef, despite the voice crossing

cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

I have a score where the sustain starts in the voice in the bass clef, and ends after the voice crosses into the treble clef. It compiles but with a warning: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain', with respect to the sustainOff. The warning goes away if I comment out midi{}. However

Re: Piano Pedal placement

Hi Martin, You could try the attached, with the commands pedOn, pedRetake and pedOff. Best, David Sustain-Pedal-2.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document \version "2.19.83" \pointAndClickOff pedOn = #(define-event-function () () #{ -\tweak shorten-pair #'(0 . -1) -\tweak

Piano Pedal placement

I am experimenting a bit with piano sustainpedal notation (see attachments) and have some questions: - IMO by default *All* pedal markings are aligned too far to the left by default. Is there a reason for this, or is this a bug or something that needs improvement? This seems to be a

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 7:40 AM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the > > dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary > > choice. > > That’s not tru

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Hi Phil, > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the dampers > are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary choice. That’s not true: the amount of pressure applied by the dampers — from 100% to 0% — is graduated (based on how much g

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 11:50 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > I don't write this stuff, I am merely the harmless drudge that tries to > engrave it! [...] > I have seen other composers write the same thing also. I think > it's a type of modernist composer shared delusion. > > The things we

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 01:20 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > > I wonder if it is possible to indicate piano pedal gradual release off, > and gradual on, using curves? Please refer to attached shots of MS. > > We have been able to do great things with pedal lines before in respons

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Am Samstag, 30 Nov 2019 10:24:30 - schrieb Phil Holmes: > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the > dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a > binary choice. So a gradual release simply makes the time the sustain > e

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

engravers have to put up with! Andrew On 30/11/19 9:24 pm, Phil Holmes wrote: What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve?  Either the dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary choice.  So a gradual release simply makes the time the sustain ends

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Bernard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:20 AM Subject: Piano pedal gradual release I wonder if it is possible to indicate piano pedal gradual release off, and gradual on, using curves? Please refer to attached shots of MS. We

Piano pedal gradual release

Is there any support for pedal gradual release when using line and bracket style where the gradual release ends in a sustain pedal off event? I am aware that for a sustain on/sustain off event you can simply use bracket flare settings, but in this case I need to influence the segment to the end

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi, Mark! On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > If acceptable, the use of "bracket" style can eliminate the conflict. Going in my pedal definition with: \set pedalSustainStyle = #'bracket is other kind of workaround, but text style is much

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi, Kieren! On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff? > > Well, I took a couple of seconds, and failed. > > Then, just now, I realized there’s a possible solution: >

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi Przemyslaw, > Do you perhaps indirectly suggest something like replacing closing > asterisk "*" with asterisk with some space padding "* “? That’s exactly what I’m suggesting. > That could work too, I guess, if it's possible. Yes. And it would be the superior workaround, since it would

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

s32*31\sustainOn s32\sustainOff [...] > but it often looks bad on the paper. You can see the problem below: http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mark-collision.pdf http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mark-collision.ly BTW I

RE: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

January 27, 2016 11:34 AM To: lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff) Hi! No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff? On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Przemyslaw Pawelczyk <mu...@pawelczyk.it> wrot

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi, > No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff? Well, I took a couple of seconds, and failed. Then, just now, I realized there’s a possible solution: I don’t know if markup (or even “fake markup”) support

Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

)? Exemplary source file and PDF: http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/ Regards. -- Przemyslaw Pawelczyk Cross-site thinker, rookie composer, Linux apprentice https://soundcloud.com/przemoc86 ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

Hi David, I am very pleased to report that the following sort of thing works just fine: \alterBroken shorten-pair #'( #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 2)) Dynamics.PianoPedalBracket I wonder if an example like this should be an LSR snippet? Andrew On 30/12/2015, 12:10, "David Nalesnik"

Re: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

Andrew, On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi David, > > I am very pleased to report that the following sort of thing works just > fine: > > \alterBroken shorten-pair #'( #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 2)) > Dynamics.PianoPedalBracket > > Color me surprised

Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

I need to be able to have a finer degree of control over where piano pedal brackets end on the right, mid piece and not just at the final bar of music. If I use an adjustment via shorten-pair ot etxend the last bracket to position, long running pedal lines which span many lines are all extended

RE: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

] On Behalf Of Andrew Bernard Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 4:52 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position I need to be able to have a finer degree of control over where piano pedal brackets end on the right, mid piece and not just at the final

Re: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

Hi Andrew, On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Andrew Bernard <andrew.bern...@gmail.com> wrote: > I need to be able to have a finer degree of control over where piano pedal > brackets end on the right, mid piece and not just at the final bar of > music. If I use an adjustment via

Piano pedal lines

Greetings All, Using bracket style for piano pedals, is it possible to have a dashed horizontal line instead of solid? Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Piano pedal lines

At 16:05 on 10 Jul 2015, Andrew Bernard wrote: Greetings All, Using bracket style for piano pedals, is it possible to have a dashed horizontal line instead of solid? Yes. See below. For more options, note that PianoPedalBracket supports the line-interface, so you can override any of those

Re: Piano pedal lines

Greetings, That’s good to know that pedals support the line interface. But I think what I require is a blend of pedal and text spanner, so that I can change end marks and add arbitrary text. I am hoping to achieve effects similar to the attached image. Can the pedal stencil be adjusted to do

Re: piano pedal

Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: Hello, Using the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano I have attached the sustain commands to the left staff. When the lower voice moves to the right staff the sustain markings change style and

RE: piano pedal

:38 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: piano pedal Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: Hello, Using the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano I have attached the sustain commands to the left staff. When

RE: piano pedal

Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:38 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: piano pedal Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: Hello, Using the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18

RE: piano pedal

Abraham, Thanks, I shall look more closely. Mark From: Abraham Lee [mailto:tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:47 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: David Kastrup; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: RE: piano pedal On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Mark Stephen

Re: piano pedal

Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: David, Thank you for your reply and the commands. Where in the documentation can I find more on the method (the why and how it works) you presented? URL:http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/modifying-context-plug_002dins

RE: piano pedal

Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:05 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: piano pedal Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: David, Thank you for your reply and the commands. Where in the documentation can

Re: piano pedal

- Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com To: 'David Kastrup' d...@gnu.org Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: RE: piano pedal David, Thank you for the references. I shall read them today. I want the pedal indication

piano pedal

Hello, Using the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano I have attached the sustain commands to the left staff. When the lower voice moves to the right staff the sustain markings change style and location. What must be done? Thank you for your kind

Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

Hello, In a piano score the \sustainOn, \sustainOff symbols are generally in a horizontal line, i.e., same distance below the bass staff. In some instances the symbol is higher or lower depending on the vertical position of the note to which it is attached. How do I get them all on the

Re: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

- Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:47 PM Subject: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment Hello, In a piano score the \sustainOn, \sustainOff symbols are generally in a horizontal line, i.e., same distance below

RE: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

Mr. Holmes, Thank you for your reply and the instructions. I shall follow them. Mark -Original Message- From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:01 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

inclined piano pedal bracket

Hi, I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this | |/ and this: | |___/ Someone can help me? Thanks! Ellepi -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/inclined-piano-pedal-bracket-tp19899844p19899844.html Sent

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

2008/10/9 ellepi611 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this Something like: \once \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'rotation = #'(15 1 0 ) perhaps? Cheers, Valentin

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

Hi, I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this Something like: \once \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'rotation = #'(15 1 0 ) No… I believe the desired property is #'bracket-flare, so that only the end is tilted (not the entire

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

2008/10/9 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No… I believe the desired property is #'bracket-flare, so that only the end is tilted (not the entire bracket/line). Yes, we spoke about this with Mats recently: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-09/msg00243.html However, I'm

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/10/9 ellepi611 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this Something like: \once \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'rotation = #'(15 1 0 ) perhaps? Cheers, Valentin

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

Hi Neil, 2008/9/14 Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, unless you're compiling from source. The asterisk's bounding box is hard-coded during font generation (see attached image). How did you get that image? In Lilypond or in Fontforge (or something else)? I'd like to see if the numbers in

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

2008/9/15 Mark Polesky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/9/14 Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately, the strings in this list are only used to build up the glyph names. That _IS_ unfortunate. I was under the impression that if I wanted to create my own pedal asterisk, I could (ie. without

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

2008/9/15 Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Neil, 2008/9/14 Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, unless you're compiling from source. The asterisk's bounding box is hard-coded during font generation (see attached image). How did you get that image? In Lilypond or in Fontforge (or

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

Hi Mark, 2008/9/14 Mark Polesky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When using \sustainOn and \sustainOff to make piano pedal marks, the Ped. glyph and the * glyph (which has less height) are drawn with the tops vertically aligned. Is there a way to align them at the baseline without manual overrides on each

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

Hi Neil, No, unless you're compiling from source. The asterisk's bounding box is hard-coded during font generation (see attached image). But why wouldn't (i.e., doesn't) this work? \layout { \context { \Score pedalSustainStrings = #'(Ped.

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

.*)) Regards, Neil From 064d3724b88e6a8b82dc2b5e0c4d9a3b50250fde Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:35:15 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Piano pedal markup test --- lily/piano-pedal-engraver.cc |3 ++- lily/sustain-pedal.cc| 38

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

2008/9/14 Neil Puttock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately, the strings in this list are only used to build up the glyph names. That _IS_ unfortunate. I was under the impression that if I wanted to create my own pedal asterisk, I could (ie. without compiling from source!) I think this is the

piano pedal vertical alignment question

When using \sustainOn and \sustainOff to make piano pedal marks, the Ped. glyph and the * glyph (which has less height) are drawn with the tops vertically aligned. Is there a way to align them at the baseline without manual overrides on each \sustainOff? If any developers are reading, I propose

Re: piano pedal lines over staff

If you really want to use it as a piano pedal bracket, then you can do \override Staff.SustainPedalLineSpanner #'direction = #UP \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'edge-height = #'(-1.0 . -1.0) Otherwise, use ordinary text spanners with \override TextSpanner #'dash

piano pedal lines over staff

I've tried different text span options, but cannot seem to get exactly what I'm after. Is there a way to have a piano pedal sort of line above the staff, with the end hook pointing down? Somewhat like this (though a solid complete line, of course

Re: piano-pedal-{performer,engraver} bug

Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since SustainEvent and friends are symbols (not strings), we should be comparing them to symbols instead of strings. Thanks. Applied. Did this cause any errors, BTW? No pedal events actually ended up in any midi files I

Re: Piano Pedal performace across a PianoStaff

Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting, you get a SIGSEGV! However, if you replace Piano_pedal_performer with Piano_pedal_engraver, LilyPond will process the file without crashing. Still, it doesn't do what you want. The next time, you try these things, remember that

Re: piano pedal brackets

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:55:31 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Andr=E9_Jensen?= wrote: Jonathan Kraut wrote: snip the bracket sides for a pedal change are drawn as: \__/___ instead of /\_ I have the exact same problem here (both with your example and some of my own music) using

Re: piano pedal brackets

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /\_ I have the exact same problem here (both with your example and some of my own music) using 2.1.0. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? If it is a bug should we post to the bugs list? Thanks. Yes, please. However, due to problems with

piano pedal brackets

Hello list! I am typesetting some piano music and have run into a problem with the bracket style of pedalSustainStyle. If I have some simultaneous notes in each clef, and the notes in the treble clef contain some accidentals, the bracket sides for a pedal change are drawn as: \__/___