Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
It would be nice to have fewer incompatible modes, and simpler ways of
extending them.
And the C++ must go with regard to how LilyPond can be extended. If
parts of LilyPond require
J Ruiz jav...@ruiz-alma.com writes:
I'm setting the printKeyCancellation to false, to avoid Lilypond
printing naturals when switching keys, but no luck; Lily still prints
the cancellation naturals.
What am I missing?
\version 2.14.2
\score{
\new Staff {
\override Staff.Clef
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:
- The wow factor. There isn't much software that truly knocks my socks
off *every time* I use it. Supercollider totally changed the way I
approach composing. Lilypond has done something I thought was
impossible when I was using -- hm, that's not
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:36 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
The amazing thing is rather that in the last three months, my finances
have not taken a further dive and this looks like it _could_ end up
sustainable.
That's good news! I was afraid that this month would be a problem.
I am
J Ruiz javier at ruiz-alma.com writes:
I'm setting the printKeyCancellation to false, to avoid Lilypond printing
naturals when switching keys, but no luck; Lily still prints the cancellation
naturals.
..when switching to C major, because the cancellation is the only indication
of the key
Henning Hraban Ramm writes:
Some (most?) countries accept tax benefits only with national NPOs,
perhaps plus a few known, big international ones (like Red Cross).
AFAIK, our Dutch LilyPond NPO would be fine for this.
Jan
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Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org | GNU LilyPond
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this
sponsoring project? What are we missing?
Jan
--
Jan
Carl Sorensen-3 wrote:
On 5/25/12 3:03 AM, ArnoldTheresius arnold.we...@siemens.com wrote:
If you work a lot with postscript markups, you'll wish to have an easy
method
to include 'postcript libaries' (usually prodecure sets) into the PS
output,
which will be converted to PDF or other
On 29 mai 2012, at 09:56, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:36 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
The amazing thing is rather that in the last three months, my finances
have not taken a further dive and this looks like it _could_ end up
sustainable.
That's good news! I was
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes:
On 29 mai 2012, at 09:56, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't
On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:15:08 +0200
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
A SponsorshipMeister is dangerously close to the premise that we can
turn money into LilyPond. The truth is that we can turn enthusiasm into
LilyPond.
Money does prevent enthusiasm from working at a gas station.
Nil
David Kastrup writes:
We're missing consensus. I think that if there were a
SponsorshipMeister, not unlike the BugMeister, we could do really cool
stuff like this. Besides the monetary aid, this brings huge
recognition to the community and gets a lot of people on board.
A
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes:
David Kastrup writes:
We're missing consensus. I think that if there were a
SponsorshipMeister, not unlike the BugMeister, we could do really cool
stuff like this. Besides the monetary aid, this brings huge
recognition to the community and gets a
Hi Javier,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:34 AM, J Ruiz jav...@ruiz-alma.com wrote:
See my attached image sample. Any suggestions on a workaround
appreciated.
You could use something like this before the key change to C major:
\once \override Staff.KeyCancellation #'stencil = ##f
HTH,
David
2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org:
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this
Am 2012-05-29 um 09:46 schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen:
Henning Hraban Ramm writes:
Some (most?) countries accept tax benefits only with national NPOs,
perhaps plus a few known, big international ones (like Red Cross).
AFAIK, our Dutch LilyPond NPO would be fine for this.
Oh, I didn’t know
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes:
2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org:
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a
Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net writes:
Am 2012-05-29 um 09:46 schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen:
Henning Hraban Ramm writes:
Some (most?) countries accept tax benefits only with national NPOs,
perhaps plus a few known, big international ones (like Red Cross).
AFAIK, our Dutch LilyPond NPO
Am 2012-05-29 um 14:09 schrieb David Kastrup:
Some (most?) countries accept tax benefits only with national NPOs,
perhaps plus a few known, big international ones (like Red Cross).
AFAIK, our Dutch LilyPond NPO would be fine for this.
Oh, I didn’t know there is one. Where can I read about
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:50 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:
When the money donated to you will come close to exceeding your needs,
we could indeed think about some kind of organised funding.
Two simple ideas:
- public sponsorship:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:57 AM, wjm mooney...@aim.com wrote:
Does it do what you wanted?
Thanks, Bill, but no, because the different bar line styles | and :
must not appear in all voices at the same time, i.e. I need different
bar lines in different voices.
That's also why I moved
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org:
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
wrote:
I was thinking about simplification like being able to put in a coda with
\coda or a segno with \segno instead of things like
\mark \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.segno }
and so on. The more complicated the
On 20/05/2012 21:19, David Kastrup wrote:
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes:
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 05:01:40PM +0200, Peter O'Doherty wrote:
Is it possible to suppress specific (expected) warnings?
No, unfortunately.
-- Function: ly:expect-warning str rest
A Scheme
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this
sponsoring
I'm transcribing a piece which is heavy on chords with only two notes in
octaves:
c c' and so on. I wonder what's the fastest way to enter lots of these.
Using the 'q' shortcut helps a little; in other parts I use the
{} {} notation and that also helps depending on the distribution of
lex R. Mosteo writes:
c c' and so on. I wonder what's the fastest way to enter lots of these.
Can you elaborate on the `and so on' bit?
If it's
c c' es es'
why not type
c es
and use replace to add the \1 \1'?
Jan
--
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org | GNU LilyPond
2012/5/29 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:
What do you mean with technically superior? It's about the output?
I think it's LilyPond output. Can you confirm?
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/node/191
This isn't Lily output, it's directly from MuseScore.
You were fooled by the fact
Am 29.05.2012 16:48, schrieb Álex R. Mosteo:
I'm transcribing a piece which is heavy on chords with only two notes in
octaves:
c c' and so on. I wonder what's the fastest way to enter lots of these.
Using the 'q' shortcut helps a little; in other parts I use the
{} {} notation and that
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
lex R. Mosteo writes:
c c' and so on. I wonder what's the fastest way to enter lots of these.
Can you elaborate on the `and so on' bit?
If it's
c c' es es'
It is, usually a few of these and then some stand-alone note.
why not type
c es
and
Marc Hohl wrote:
Am 29.05.2012 16:48, schrieb Álex R. Mosteo:
I'm transcribing a piece which is heavy on chords with only two notes in
octaves:
c c' and so on. I wonder what's the fastest way to enter lots of
these.
Using the 'q' shortcut helps a little; in other parts I use the
{} {}
On May 29, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
wrote:
I was thinking about simplification like being able to put in a coda with
\coda or a segno with \segno instead of things like
\mark \markup { \musicglyph
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:01 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Bad input tends to let LilyPond segfault. You need C++ for that: it
is not possible in Scheme alone. Take a look at listener.cc, one of
our simplest C++ classes with things like
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
While the scheme integration have been a big leap forward in terms of
expandability and flexibility, I think it has also been our gravest
design error. Both for technical reasons
On Tue, 29 May 2012 19:08:51 +0200
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
While the scheme integration have been a big leap forward in terms of
expandability and
Nils l...@nilsgey.de writes:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 19:08:51 +0200
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
While the scheme integration have been a big leap forward in terms of
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
There are two separate discussions here:
- how do we offer to average user a way to extend the program. I agree
that C++ is not the way to go
- how do we offer developers an environment to extend LilyPond, were
extensions go back into mainline;
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
It would be nice to have fewer incompatible modes, and simpler ways of
extending them.
And the C++ must go with regard to how LilyPond can be extended. If
parts of LilyPond require object orientation, then the respective
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:01 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Mike is a big fan of C++ and admits to not understanding garbage
collection. And we had several hard to track down errors with strange
symptoms because of that combination already. When programming In
Scheme, you don't need
I'd donate. As long as I know my donation is going toward Lilypond
development, and that Lilypond users on the whole are happy with the nature
and style of development.
(Reasonably regular updates to donors from the developer, with some
opportunity for feedback on the main lilypond.org website,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:
Henning Hraban Ramm writes:
Some (most?) countries accept tax benefits only with national NPOs,
perhaps plus a few known, big international ones (like Red Cross).
AFAIK, our Dutch LilyPond NPO would be fine for this.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:
Just to make sure you have seen
http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically
Excerpts from Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of Tue May 29 09:56:14 +0200 2012:
Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this
sponsoring project? What are we missing?
Just talking about my personal experience ..
I personally can only say that I've tried teaching lilypond to
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Bad input tends to let LilyPond segfault. You need C++ for that: it
is not possible in Scheme alone. Take a look at listener.cc, one of
our simplest C++ classes with things like
From a user perspective, there is little
and so on. The more complicated the incantations are, the easier
it is to
get them wrong the harder it is to debug and the longer it takes
to write.
A lot of the complexity is because the scripting language is
Scheme, a
variant of LISP. Even for somebody like me, who has been writing
Hi,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Heather W. Reichgott
heather.reichg...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd donate. As long as I know my donation is going toward Lilypond
development, and that Lilypond users on the whole are happy with the nature
and style of development.
(Reasonably regular updates to
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:53 PM, John David Duncan
john.david.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
A higher priority, I think, is the ability to render and replace
individual measures and pages. Because that's what it takes to really
support a GUI input environment.
I think that designing a GUI that
Hello list,
How can one achieve this kind of notation. A re-attacked glissando, with
possible different articulations. Glissandi appear to be possible only
with adjacent notes.
A possible solution would be to create notes without noteheads, and then
create a false glissando line. Probably the
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:15:31 +0200
Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de wrote:
Musecore fails to render some specific cases when printing - but
exporting to lilypond seems to work in all (little) cases I tried.
Thus for simple cases I like that combination: musescore for typing and
lilypond for
On Tue, 29 May 2012 23:05:31 +0200
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:53 PM, John David Duncan
john.david.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
A higher priority, I think, is the ability to render and replace
individual measures and pages. Because that's what it
Hi Marcel,
If the following doesn't work then I must be misunderstanding what you
are looking for.
:)
Regards
Bill
+++
\layout {
\context { \Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
\consists
2012/5/29 Bernardo Barros newsgro...@bbarros.com:
Hello list,
How can one achieve this kind of notation. A re-attacked glissando, with
possible different articulations. Glissandi appear to be possible only
with adjacent notes.
A possible solution would be to create notes without noteheads,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:
AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of interest
and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it somewhere on the
musescore twitter account or something like this).
It may still work, but we
On 29-5-2012 23:16, Nils wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:15:31 +0200
Marc Webermarco-owe...@gmx.de wrote:
Musecore fails to render some specific cases when printing - but
exporting to lilypond seems to work in all (little) cases I tried.
Thus for simple cases I like that combination: musescore
Am 2012-05-29 um 20:07 schrieb David Kastrup:
If it is for easy user scripting: Lua. Flexible, easy to learn,
especially designed for that purpose.
Yup. And fast. And easily mappable to a different language like
LilyPond. String or symbol? Not a choice you need to make, there are
only
On 05/29/2012 02:43 PM, Thomas Morley wrote:
you may want to use 'glissando-skip.
See the example below and ‘glissando-skip.ly’ in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/input/regression/collated-files.html
The idea is to alternate between two strings of the violin (or any
string instrument). The
2012/5/28 -Eluze elu...@gmail.com:
damien-43 wrote:
dear lilypond users/contributers.
please can you help i would like to create
a bar of music with 2 mimims (1/2 notes)
one on middle c and the other a tone higher on d.
the d i would like to put into parentheses.
and above it i would
On 05/29/2012 03:06 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
BTW I came across a problem with grace notes with chord glissandi. Is
there a way to make the grace note appear BEFORE the barline?
Found it. Seems to work with a simple snippet.
\score {
\new StaffGroup {
\new Staff {
c''1
On 29/05/12 20:44, David Kastrup wrote:
Jan Nieuwenhuizenjann...@gnu.org writes:
How to turn enthousiasm into LilyPond, if people are unaware of it's
existence. Long before we go SponsorshipMeister, I would suggest a
PRMeister.
I don't think that people are unaware of its existence.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote:
Speaking of which, Mutopia seems to be pretty much moribund. I sent a score
to their contributions e-mail address a couple of months ago, which was
never acknowledged and hasn't appeared on the web site. Nor did I
I'd donate. As long as I know my donation is going toward Lilypond
development, and that Lilypond users on the whole are happy with the nature
and style of development.
(Reasonably regular updates to donors from the developer, with some
opportunity for feedback on the main lilypond.org website,
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
While the scheme integration have been a big leap forward in terms of
expandability and flexibility, I
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
There are two separate discussions here:
- how do we offer to average user a way to extend the program. I agree
that C++ is not the way to go
- how do we offer developers an environment to extend LilyPond, were
extensions
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
As a consequence, GUILE is not only the language for writing
extensions, but it is the entire platform upon which LilyPond is built
internally too: almost every C++ data structure is manipulated and
passed on as a SCM variable as well, and there is
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
There are two separate discussions here:
- how do we offer to average user a way to extend the program. I agree
that C++ is not the way to go
- how do we offer developers an
Heather W. Reichgott heather.reichg...@gmail.com writes:
I'd donate. As long as I know my donation is going toward Lilypond
development, and that Lilypond users on the whole are happy with the
nature and style of development.
(Reasonably regular updates to donors from the developer, with some
Lucas Gonze lucas.go...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:
AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of
interest and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it
somewhere on the musescore twitter account or
On 12-05-29 10:36 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
MuseScore is not a GUI for LilyPond, like LilyPond is not a frontend for
PostScript. If it were a GUI for LilyPond, you could send a LilyPond
file to a MuseScore guy, and he would make some amendments with
MuseScore and send you back the changed
There is a chance, but only when the syntax is *obvious* enough.
Currently used syntax isn't obvious enough, but it won't be difficult
to change it, i think.
for me, as a beginner, notes syntax wasn't the difficult part (then again,
i'm used to write programming code), but page layout,
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