Re: How to extract the current time signature

2019-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > [Reviving a pretty ancient thread] > > Hi Abraham and Harm (and others), > > Am 22.01.15 um 14:17 schrieb tisimst: >> Harm, >> >> >> Thomas Morley-2 wrote >>> Maybe: >>> >>> \version "2.19.15" >>> >>> printTimeSignatureFraction = >>> \applyContext #(lambda (ctx) >>>(let*

Re: How to extract the current time signature

2019-02-08 Thread Urs Liska
[Reviving a pretty ancient thread] Hi Abraham and Harm (and others), Am 22.01.15 um 14:17 schrieb tisimst: Harm, Thomas Morley-2 wrote Maybe: \version "2.19.15" printTimeSignatureFraction = \applyContext #(lambda (ctx) (let* ((context (ly:context-property-where-defined ctx

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-04 Thread Christopher R. Maden
for the \grace suggestion — interestingly, when I tried it, the new clef overlapped the time signature, not the primary clefs, and I didn’t get the weird doubling in the right hand. I’m still a little surprised that LilyPond doesn’t have a setting somewhere to explicitly place clefs regardless

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-02-04 6:47 am, Christopher R. Maden wrote: On 2/4/19 6:03 AM, Aaron Hill wrote: Note in this case I changed the CueClef font-size to match the reduced size of a non-cue clef when it appears within a line. That looks great, thanks! The \cueClefUnset bass clef still looks tiny, and if

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-04 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 2/4/19 6:03 AM, Aaron Hill wrote: Note in this case I changed the CueClef font-size to match the reduced size of a non-cue clef when it appears within a line. That looks great, thanks! The \cueClefUnset bass clef still looks tiny, and if I use \cueClef to switch back to bass, it shows up

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
"Christopher R. Maden" writes: > This is probably a FAQ, but I can’t find the right combination of > search terms to tease it from the ether... > > I want a piano staff, with the left hand to start with bass clef, but > then immediately switch to treble clef after the ti

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-02-03 8:44 pm, Christopher R. Maden wrote: On 2/3/19 9:43 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: Does \cueClef help? It does... though then when I \clef bass back again it’s ignored. I can use \cueClefUnset... Thanks, this is a great workaround. I suspect there is a better (more properly

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
HI Chris, That makes sense. I also like to preserve the composer's own notation where possible. And as said, it's not actually wrong! Good old Sousa! Andrew On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 16:43, Christopher R. Maden wrote: > > I’m transcribing Sousa’s “A Typical Tune of Zanzibar,”[*] and I’m trying >

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 2/4/19 12:36 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: This comes up reasonably often. May I ask why you don't simply start the piece with the treble clef? If you immediately change to treble, what is the point of having the bass clef at this point? It's a musical decision up to you, but it always strikes me

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Christopher, This comes up reasonably often. May I ask why you don't simply start the piece with the treble clef? If you immediately change to treble, what is the point of having the bass clef at this point? It's a musical decision up to you, but it always strikes me as a bit unnecessary. Any

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 2/3/19 9:43 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: Does \cueClef help? It does... though then when I \clef bass back again it’s ignored. I can use \cueClefUnset... Thanks, this is a great workaround. I suspect there is a better (more properly LilyPondish) answer, but this is more than adequate for

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Aaron Hill
to treble clef after the time signature. Mnon-WE is attached. Probably this involves monkeying with the clef engraver, but I haven’t figured out how. Does \cueClef help? \version "2.19.82" \new PianoStaff << \new Staff { \clef treble b'2 2 } \new Staff { \clef bass \

Re: Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-02-03 6:33 pm, Christopher R. Maden wrote: This is probably a FAQ, but I can’t find the right combination of search terms to tease it from the ether... I want a piano staff, with the left hand to start with bass clef, but then immediately switch to treble clef after the time signature

Change staff clef immediately after time signature

2019-02-03 Thread Christopher R. Maden
This is probably a FAQ, but I can’t find the right combination of search terms to tease it from the ether... I want a piano staff, with the left hand to start with bass clef, but then immediately switch to treble clef after the time signature. Mnon-WE is attached. Probably this involves

Re: Start score with barline (after time signature)

2019-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Aaron Hill writes: > On 2019-01-29 8:05 am, Urs Liska wrote: >> I need to engrave a score that starts with a barline immediately after >> the time signature (to demonstrate the barline, that is), as can be >> seen in the attached image. >> >> By default t

Re: Start score with barline (after time signature)

2019-01-29 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-29 8:05 am, Urs Liska wrote: I need to engrave a score that starts with a barline immediately after the time signature (to demonstrate the barline, that is), as can be seen in the attached image. By default this barline is not printed at all, but when I insert a very short skip (even

Re: Start score with barline (after time signature)

2019-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29.01.19 um 17:15 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: I need to engrave a score that starts with a barline immediately after the time signature (to demonstrate the barline, that is), as can be seen in the attached image. By default this barline is not printed at all, but when I

Re: Start score with barline (after time signature)

2019-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > I need to engrave a score that starts with a barline immediately after > the time signature (to demonstrate the barline, that is), as can be > seen in the attached image. > > By default this barline is not printed at all, but when I insert a > very shor

Start score with barline (after time signature)

2019-01-29 Thread Urs Liska
I need to engrave a score that starts with a barline immediately after the time signature (to demonstrate the barline, that is), as can be seen in the attached image. By default this barline is not printed at all, but when I insert a very short skip (even 1/128) there is a pretty huge gap

Re: Time signature and beat markers

2018-11-07 Thread Mark Knoop
At 21:16 on 06 Nov 2018, Andrew Bernard wrote: >Answering my own question, this simple approach works: > > \time 5/4 > \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 1/4) > >I'm happy to make the thincker barlines manually, unless anybody has >some clever special engraver ideas. Try something

Re: Time signature and beat markers

2018-11-06 Thread Karim Haddad
my polymeter/polytempi scores... Best K > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 20:10:52 +1100 > From: Andrew Bernard > To: lilypond-user Mailinglist > Subject: Re: Time signature and beat markers > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: Time signature and beat markers

2018-11-06 Thread Andrew Bernard
Answering my own question, this simple approach works: \time 5/4 \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 1/4) I'm happy to make the thincker barlines manually, unless anybody has some clever special engraver ideas. Andrew ___ lilypond-user

Re: Time signature and beat markers

2018-11-06 Thread Andrew Bernard
sural type line system) every > beat, so I set the music in 1/4. Previously, we have omitted the actual > time signature for various reaons, but now I want it displayed. > > So how can I show 5/4 but have the music be in 1/4 for creating the 'beat > lines' (just think of them as barlin

Re: Single digit double time signature

2018-09-13 Thread Cantus Ornatus
nd double time signatures with a > > single digit like C 3, O 3, and so on. > > > > Is it possible modifying the standard double time signature syntax in > > order to have such a layout (second page)? > > > > https://goo.gl/FBm2UL > > > > Thanks in advance, > >

Re: Single digit double time signature

2018-09-13 Thread Jean Bréfort
15:49 +0200, Cantus Ornatus a écrit : > Hi everyone. > Typesetting mensural music I often find double time signatures with a > single digit like C 3, O 3, and so on. > > Is it possible modifying the standard double time signature syntax in > order to have such a layout (se

Re: Single digit double time signature

2018-09-13 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-09-13 6:49 am, Cantus Ornatus wrote: Hi everyone. Typesetting mensural music I often find double time signatures with a single digit like C 3, O 3, and so on. Is it possible modifying the standard double time signature syntax in order to have such a layout (second page)? https

Re: Single digit double time signature

2018-09-13 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Cantus Ornatus wrote > Is it possible modifying the standard double time signature syntax in > order > to have such a layout? Hi F., You can change the time signature style to single-digit: \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'single-digit That way, only the numerator will b

Single digit double time signature

2018-09-13 Thread Cantus Ornatus
Hi everyone. Typesetting mensural music I often find double time signatures with a single digit like C 3, O 3, and so on. Is it possible modifying the standard double time signature syntax in order to have such a layout (second page)? https://goo.gl/FBm2UL Thanks in advance, F

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-06-01 Thread dfro
Kieren, Thank you. Peace, David On 6/1/18 11:43 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi David, Is it possible to get the markup to attach to the clef or time signature only in the bass staff? I am getting the text to show, but it is attaching to both staves. You’ve put the Balloon_engraver

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-06-01 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> Is it possible to get the markup to attach to the clef or time signature >> only in the bass staff? I am getting the text to show, but it is attaching >> to both staves. > > You’ve put the Balloon_engraver in th

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-06-01 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Is it possible to get the markup to attach to the clef or time signature only > in the bass staff? I am getting the text to show, but it is attaching to both > staves. You’ve put the Balloon_engraver in the Score context, so all staves will display balloons. Use \with o

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-05-31 Thread dfro
Kieren, I was playing with the code you shared on this thread, and I have a question. Is it possible to get the markup to attach to the clef or time signature only in the bass staff? I am getting the text to show, but it is attaching to both staves. Thanks for any advice. Peace, David

Re: Displace position of time signature

2018-05-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Aaron, Both of these solutions are excellent and useful and exactly what I am after. Thanks! Manual fiddling of this stuff is fine by me for the New Complexity scores that I do, which need lots of coaxing into shape. Andrew ___ lilypond-user

Re: Displace position of time signature

2018-05-18 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-05-17 19:05, Andrew Bernard wrote: Thank you very much. The next logical (or stupid?) question is, can one snug the notes under the time signature, as though it occupied no space? \version "2.19.81" { \override Staff.TimeSignature.Y-offset = #4

Re: Displace position of time signature

2018-05-17 Thread Karlin High
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Andrew Bernard <andrew.bern...@gmail.com> wrote: > The next logical (or stupid?) question is, can one snug > the notes under the time signature, as though it occupied no space? Intriguing. I found a lilypond-user thread from 2009 about imitating tim

Re: Displace position of time signature

2018-05-17 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Aaron, Thank you very much. The next logical (or stupid?) question is, can one snug the notes under the time signature, as though it occupied no space? Andrew On 18 May 2018 at 10:57, Aaron Hill <lilyp...@hillvisions.com> wrote: > > > \version "2.19

Re: Displace position of time signature

2018-05-17 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-05-17 17:53, Andrew Bernard wrote: Is it possible to have time signatures show above the barline, not inline in the staff? I'm aware there is a solution using a separate staff for time signatures, but I would rather not use that, as I do want them to sit very snug on top of the

Displace position of time signature

2018-05-17 Thread Andrew Bernard
Is it possible to have time signatures show above the barline, not inline in the staff? I'm aware there is a solution using a separate staff for time signatures, but I would rather not use that, as I do want them to sit very snug on top of the barline. Andrew

Re: Hiding Time Signature

2018-05-04 Thread Garreth
Thank you guys so much. Karlin's answer is super easy! -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Hiding Time Signature

2018-05-04 Thread Noeck
Hi Garreth, Karlin showed you the best way to do that. But you were already close: 'False' is ##f and not #ff: { \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = ##f a } Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Hiding Time Signature

2018-05-03 Thread Karlin High
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Garreth <dr.broes...@gmail.com> wrote: > I simply want to hide the time signature for some basic music theory > examples. Welcome to LilyPond! There are several ways to hide the time signature. Here is one example. \version "2.18.2" { \om

Hiding Time Signature

2018-05-03 Thread Garreth
Hi, Sorry to ask a super basic question... But I am really new to LP. I hope this will be really easy. I simply want to hide the time signature for some basic music theory examples. <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/t5620/cf.png> See the image I attached. I found a command

Re: Different time signature on different staff

2018-04-16 Thread Knut Petersen
Hi Ming! Question: how to align bar lines for the above lilybin sample. Well, as long as your MelodyA starts with \partial 8 \time 6/8 and your MelodyB starts with \partial 4 \time 4/4, bars will never happen at the same moment in time and thus bars will not be aligined ... Knut

RE: Different time signature on different staff

2018-04-16 Thread Ming Tsang
Knut, Thank you for the sample PDF and ly source. http://lilybin.com/94hi4y/1 Question: how to align bar lines for the above lilybin sample. Ming Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Knut Petersen Sent: April 16, 2018 12:07 PM To: Ming Tsang; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Different time

RE: Different time signature on different staff

2018-04-16 Thread Ming Tsang
Brian, Thank you for pointing me to NR. I have been search LSR and found nothing. I will study the NR. Ming Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Brian Barker Sent: April 16, 2018 11:49 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Cc: Ming Tsang Subject: Re: Different time signature on different staff At 11:17

Re: Different time signature on different staff

2018-04-16 Thread Knut Petersen
Hi Ming! My code did not produce the expecting of time 6/8 on the first staff. What shall I code to correct this. After reading the manual location pointed out by Brian you might have a look at my edition of Hugo Distles polymetric "Er ist's". PDF

Re: Different time signature on different staff

2018-04-16 Thread Brian Barker
At 11:17 16/04/2018 -0400, Ming Tsang wrote: My code did not produce the expecting of time 6/8 on the first staff. What shall I code to correct this. See "Different time signatures with equal-length measures" and "Different time signatures with unequal-length measures" under "Polymetric

Different time signature on different staff

2018-04-16 Thread Ming Tsang
Dear ponders, My code did not produce the expecting of time 6/8 on the first staff. What shall I code to correct this. Thanks, Ming Sent from Mail for Windows 10 the-spirit-of-life_test.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: numeric time signature (was Defining custom symbols)

2018-04-15 Thread Robert Hickman
Thanks, I have been reading the documentation, but missed that the example was wrong. On 15 April 2018 at 14:54, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi Robert, > > You can search the lilypond user mailing list archives. There is a large > amount of discussion on this topic. > >

Re: numeric time signature (was Defining custom symbols)

2018-04-15 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Robert, You can search the lilypond user mailing list archives. There is a large amount of discussion on this topic. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/ Andrew On 15 April 2018 at 23:13, Robert Hickman wrote: > > > What option do I need to crop the

Re: numeric time signature (was Defining custom symbols)

2018-04-15 Thread Robert Hickman
Hello again, I've just downloaded the symbol repo and have been experimenting. I Noticed that the time signature set in the file is not reflected in the output (using the example from the repo). It displays common time 'C' instead of 2/4. Adding \numericTimeSignature causes it to create a second

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Werner (and David), > Well, this is cheating, isn't it? I prefer “creative”. ;) Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't >>> really work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows, >>> the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left. Using the >>> baloon stuff, the text properly sticks out. >> >> What about >> >> \new Staff >> {

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Werner, > >> This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't really >> work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows, >> the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left. Using the >> baloon stuff, the

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Werner, > This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't really > work for me: As the attached image for this snippet shows, > the staff line gets enlarged horizontally to the left. Using the > baloon stuff, the text properly sticks out. What about \new Staff { \tweak

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
David, Kieren, thanks a lot for your snippets! For didactical purposes I need centered, explanatory text over a time signature. > Here's a snippet showing how balloon text might be used. This is the solution I will use, since David's solution doesn't really work for me: As the attached im

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Huh. It's in the context of > > \new Voice \with { ... } > { > ... > } > > I don't think we have examples along the lines > > \new Score \with { ... } > { > ... > } > > but if that's where the ad-hoc engraver is best placed, maybe we should? Another alternative would be to

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> Time signatures are engraved at Staff context. I'd likely suggest to >> put Balloon_engraver at Score level anyway: no point in having more than >> one of them active, is there? > > I was thinking that myself… but the docs

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Ben
On 4/12/2018 10:35 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Ben <soundsfromso...@gmail.com> writes: On 4/12/2018 8:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> writes: Folks, is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature? But can't you achieve your goal with the vari

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Here's a snippet showing how balloon text might be used. Hope it helps! Kieren. %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.80" \layout { \context { \Score \consists "Balloon_engraver" \override BalloonTextItem.annotation-balloon = ##f \override BalloonTextItem.annotation-line

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Time signatures are engraved at Staff context. I'd likely suggest to > put Balloon_engraver at Score level anyway: no point in having more than > one of them active, is there? I was thinking that myself… but the docs explicitly add it at the Voice level (cf.

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread David Kastrup
Ben <soundsfromso...@gmail.com> writes: > On 4/12/2018 8:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> writes: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> >>> is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature? >> >> >>

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon mechanisms? > > I just tried to — in order to give the OP an example — but my attempt didn’t > work: > > %%% SNIPPET BEGINS > \version "2.19.80" > > \layout {

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Ben
On 4/12/2018 8:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> writes: Folks, is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature? But can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon mechanisms? Just a quick question, David why does your cod

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > can't you achieve your goal with the various footnote/balloon mechanisms? I just tried to — in order to give the OP an example — but my attempt didn’t work: %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.80" \layout { \context { \Voice \consists "Balloon_engraver" } } stuff = {

Re: attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> writes: > Folks, > > > is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature? \new Staff { \tweak stencil #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob default) (grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup \column { \stencil #default \vspa

attaching markup to time signature

2018-04-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, is it possible to attach a markup to a time signature? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: No Time Signature

2017-12-27 Thread nokel81
Thank you -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: No Time Signature

2017-12-27 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 27.12.2017 um 16:54 schrieb nokel81: Hello, is there a way so that lilypond treats an entire staff as a single bar and just break the notes where it is best? I want to do this with stem-less notes for modern chant. How about this? \version "2.19.80" \relative { \omit

No Time Signature

2017-12-27 Thread nokel81
Hello, is there a way so that lilypond treats an entire staff as a single bar and just break the notes where it is best? I want to do this with stem-less notes for modern chant. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 15. November 2017 21:36:56 MEZ schrieb Noeck : >Am 14.11.2017 um 17:50 schrieb Karlin High: >> My knowledge of German is mostly limited to a Schwäbisch-Pfälzisch >> dialect filtered through 12 generations in America. > >I would really like to hear what the result of that

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread Noeck
Thank you. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread Karlin High
On 11/15/2017 2:53 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Noeck writes: Am 14.11.2017 um 17:50 schrieb Karlin High: My knowledge of German is mostly limited to a Schwäbisch-Pfälzisch dialect filtered through 12 generations in America. I would really like to hear what the result of

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck writes: > Am 14.11.2017 um 17:50 schrieb Karlin High: >> My knowledge of German is mostly limited to a Schwäbisch-Pfälzisch >> dialect filtered through 12 generations in America. > > I would really like to hear what the result of that process is!

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread Noeck
Am 14.11.2017 um 17:50 schrieb Karlin High: > My knowledge of German is mostly limited to a Schwäbisch-Pfälzisch > dialect filtered through 12 generations in America. I would really like to hear what the result of that process is! Cheers, Joram ___

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/17 10:51, Knut Petersen wrote: > Am 15.11.2017 um 00:26 schrieb Noeck: >> >>> The diminutive of „Magd“ is „Mägdelein“ or maybe „Mägdchen“ (nobody >>> would use the latter), but not „Mädchen“. >> But still "Mädchen" seems to be derived from "Magd": >>

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread Knut Petersen
Am 15.11.2017 um 00:26 schrieb Noeck: The diminutive of „Magd“ is „Mägdelein“ or maybe „Mägdchen“ (nobody would use the latter), but not „Mädchen“. But still "Mädchen" seems to be derived from "Magd": http://www.wissen.de/wortherkunft/maedchen Yes, Grimm agrees

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-15 Thread Werner Arnhold
Okay, mee too: Mackensen, ethymolologic dictionary says: Mädchen, since middle of 17th century simplified from "Mägdchen", diminuative from "Magd" The latter only today is a farm maid, in former times it was an unwedded woman. See in a german christmas carol, the text is (about the virgin birth

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread Noeck
> The diminutive of „Magd“ is „Mägdelein“ or maybe „Mägdchen“ (nobody > would use the latter), but not „Mädchen“. But still "Mädchen" seems to be derived from "Magd": http://www.wissen.de/wortherkunft/maedchen Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 14.11.2017 20:36, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: (neuter). "Die Mad", "Das Madchen" likewise. Again, here English is very unusual ... I argue there is meant "Die Magd" The diminutive of „Magd“ is „Mägdelein“ or maybe „Mägdchen“ (nobody would use the latter), but not „Mädchen“. Best, Simon

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
... (neuter). "Die Mad", "Das Madchen" likewise. Again, here English is very unusual ... I argue there is meant "Die Magd", "das Mädchen" for maid/maiden in the job sensefarmgirl or maidservant. I argue Magd instead of Mad. (My talent for languages is absolutely nought.) Regards

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/11/17 16:50, Karlin High wrote: > And I just learned something there: > > "Der Hund hat den Mann gebissen" and > "Den Mann hat der Hund gebissen" > both mean "The dog has bitten the man". > > I knew the Russian language had that word-order feature/bug, but didn't > realize German did too.

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread Karlin High
On 11/14/2017 2:39 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Luther basically has been the last major such moment in German, with the shift from Mittelhochdeutsch already being behind. Here's a "very short introduction" to the German language. It's aimed at English speakers, and has a few paragraphs of

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread Werner Arnhold
up > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2014-05/msg00045.html > > which might not be up-to-date. Urs may reply with a better version. > > The one I use is attached. > > Some more reference is in this blog post: > http://lilypondblog.org/2014/06/pol

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > Fair enough; I didn't know that. So how far back do you have to go in > German to hear things that would sound archaic or stilted to modern > ears? I sound archaic or stilted to modern ears. It's a bit of a moving target, but Luther was a

Re: How can I omit time signature from the very first measure, but then add it at the second one?

2017-11-13 Thread Vinny
Thank you very much! It worked. :) -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Nov 2017 at 17:32:09 (+0100), David Kastrup wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > BTW does the German used here sound as archaic as Coverdale's > > translation (Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be ye lift up, > > ye everlasting doors, and the King of glory

Re: How can I omit time signature from the very first measure, but then add it at the second one?

2017-11-13 Thread David Kastrup
Vinny <vini.wolfl...@gmail.com> writes: > Trying to write a piece where the very first bar is completely devoid of any > time signature indicators. Under the hood it's okay if the measure is a 4/4, > I just don't want that to be visible on the PDF. The reason is, one of

How can I omit time signature from the very first measure, but then add it at the second one?

2017-11-13 Thread Vinny
Trying to write a piece where the very first bar is completely devoid of any time signature indicators. Under the hood it's okay if the measure is a 4/4, I just don't want that to be visible on the PDF. The reason is, one of the musicians in the group will play an unmetered, improvised intro

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread Urs Liska
. Urs may reply with a better version. The one I use is attached. Some more reference is in this blog post: http://lilypondblog.org/2014/06/polymetrics-in-sibelius-vs-lilypond/ The key idea is to create the visual time signature including all occuring time signatures and then suppress

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread Chris Yate
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 at 16:33 David Kastrup wrote: > David Wright writes: > > > BTW does the German used here sound as archaic as Coverdale's > > translation (Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be ye lift up, > > ye everlasting doors, and the King of

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > BTW does the German used here sound as archaic as Coverdale's > translation (Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be ye lift up, > ye everlasting doors, and the King of glory shall come in) Uh, The Messiah _was_ composed and performed in English.

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread Joshua Stutter
a printed example with two time signatures at the beginning of the first line. In the first attachment you can see the result of my efforts. There are two problems in it: 1. The second time signature is too narrow to the first note. My useless efforts for fixing this are in the minimal example

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread David Wright
Another point, dwelling on the lyrics… On Mon 13 Nov 2017 at 10:55:06 (+0100), Werner Arnhold wrote: > The first attached file shows the state of the complete Work, see the > hemiolic measure at measure 5. > The minmal example ly-file shows the first 9 measures without text. When you add the

Re: double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Nov 2017 at 10:55:06 (+0100), Werner Arnhold wrote: > Hi, list members, > > I try to typeset an old choral work with hemiolic measures. That leads > me to a 3/4 Mesure sometimes changed to a 3/2 measure without special > indication and immediately back again. So I wanted to follow a

double time signature problem

2017-11-13 Thread Werner Arnhold
. In the first attachment you can see the result of my efforts. There are two problems in it: 1. The second time signature is too narrow to the first note. My useless efforts for fixing this are in the minimal example, commented out. 2. It is constructed in definitely the wrong way. There must

Re: The proper way to change time signature in the middle of a bar?

2017-09-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/09/17 18:30, David Kastrup wrote: > Wols Lists writes: > >> I've got a piece of music where I'm doing the following .. >> >> \time 2/4 c2 | c4. >> \time 6/8 \partial 8 c8 | c2. >> >> This gives me the warning >> >> voiceStaff.ily:38:2: warning: trying to use

Re: The proper way to change time signature in the middle of a bar?

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > I've got a piece of music where I'm doing the following .. > > \time 2/4 c2 | c4. > \time 6/8 \partial 8 c8 | c2. > > This gives me the warning > > voiceStaff.ily:38:2: warning: trying to use \partial after the start of > a piece > > but it works

The proper way to change time signature in the middle of a bar?

2017-09-14 Thread Wols Lists
I've got a piece of music where I'm doing the following .. \time 2/4 c2 | c4. \time 6/8 \partial 8 c8 | c2. This gives me the warning voiceStaff.ily:38:2: warning: trying to use \partial after the start of a piece but it works fine. Without the \partial, though, lilypond gets confused over the

Re: Breaking Ties to Avoid Time Signature Changes

2017-08-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Brian, > Anyone know how to extend the ties, or inversely, get the whiteout area to be > narrower (or follow the outline of the numbers themselves)? \once \override Staff.TimeSignature.whiteout-style = #'outline \once \override Staff.TimeSignature.whiteout = #1 Although I don't know if you

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