Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-14 Thread Piaras Hoban
be a major selling point for lilypond in the contemporary music world. For completeness sake here's index of what you see in the linked PDF (naturally eveything you see here is generated using lilypond alone): 1) Split-stem chords/clusters 2) Stemmed glissando 3) Bezier glissando w/arrowhead 4

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-12 Thread Piaras Hoban
it could be a major selling point for lilypond in the contemporary music world. For completeness sake here's index of what you see in the linked PDF (naturally eveything you see here is generated using lilypond alone): 1) Split-stem chords/clusters 2) Stemmed glissando 3) Bezier glissando w

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-12 Thread David Nalesnik
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Piaras Hoban phoba...@googlemail.com wrote: I thought it might be interesting for those wondering what's possible in lilypond to see some examples from the field. I've put together a page collating those things I've done in the past year or so. I'm

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-12 Thread Urs Liska
be great to develop a contemporary notation library for lilypond making these notations readily available to any user, I'm not sure what that would involve but I know it could be a major selling point for lilypond in the contemporary music world. For completeness sake here's index of what you see

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
notation library for lilypond making these notations readily available to any user, I'm not sure what that would involve but I know it could be a major selling point for lilypond in the contemporary music world. Absolutely! And if you'd like to write a short (or long) blog post about this, just

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-12 Thread Mike Solomon
for lilypond making these notations readily available to any user, I'm not sure what that would involve but I know it could be a major selling point for lilypond in the contemporary music world. For completeness sake here's index of what you see in the linked PDF (naturally eveything you see

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-11 Thread SoundsFromSound
Urs Liska wrote Am 09.10.2014 06:31, schrieb Marco Bagolin: The notation contemporary music is so diverse, I know. I wonder if actually Lilypond has commands for drawing graphic symbols, as line circle, curve, square, circle, etc... A nice thing about LilyPond's approach is that once you

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2014-10-08 22:11 GMT+02:00 Marco Bagolin bagolin.ma...@gmail.com: Hello all, I'm new Lilypond user and I am interested in Contemporary Music Notation. I read all 2.8 Contemporary music manual section: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/contemporary-music but lot

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.10.2014 06:31, schrieb Marco Bagolin: The notation contemporary music is so diverse, I know. I wonder if actually Lilypond has commands for drawing graphic symbols, as line circle, curve, square, circle, etc... I'll give you a few places to start: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-10 Thread Paul Morris
Urs Liska wrote Am 09.10.2014 06:31, schrieb Marco Bagolin: The notation contemporary music is so diverse, I know. I wonder if actually Lilypond has commands for drawing graphic symbols, as line circle, curve, square, circle, etc... In addition to what Urs shared, here are a couple

Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-08 Thread Marco Bagolin
Hello all, I'm new Lilypond user and I am interested in Contemporary Music Notation. I read all 2.8 Contemporary music manual section: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/contemporary-music but lot of the chapters are empty and most of links are inactive. Please how can I

Re: Contemporary Music Notation

2014-10-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 08.10.2014 22:11, schrieb Marco Bagolin: Hello all, I'm new Lilypond user and I am interested in Contemporary Music Notation. I read all 2.8 Contemporary music manual section: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/contemporary-music but lot of the chapters are empty

Re: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Joshua Nichols To: Mailinglist lilypond-user Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:29 AM Subject: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music So I check the documentation for the dev version, and I notice that there are a few ideas

Re: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-07 Thread David Kastrup
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: From: Joshua Nichols To: Mailinglist lilypond-user So I check the documentation for the dev version, and I notice that there are a few ideas for the next release. Any ideas not mentioned via documentation? I don't know of any planning that is done

Re: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Josh, I was wondering if any examples of contemporary notation were ever going to be put in the documentation. I know there is a spot for that, and when I've checked back several stable versions, and alas... nothing. As others have pointed out, we [the community] need to step up and fill

Re: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-07 Thread Joshua Nichols
Thanks to Kieren, David, and Phil for your responses. Kieren, that was a fantastic snippet. I guess I would be willing to help, but I have no where to begin to start that process. I would love to come up with some documentation on contemporary music, but it seems that LilyPond does convential

Re: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-07 Thread Urs Liska
music, but it seems that LilyPond does convential stuff REALLY well, in contrast to contemporary music which takes heavy tweaking and coding to accomplish it. So, if there is something I can do to help out with the documentation, let me know! Maybe a good start would be to set up a place and collect

Re: On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-07 Thread Joshua Nichols
on contemporary music, but it seems that LilyPond does convential stuff REALLY well, in contrast to contemporary music which takes heavy tweaking and coding to accomplish it. So, if there is something I can do to help out with the documentation, let me know! Maybe a good start would be to set up

On features planned for 2.20 and Documentations on Contemporary Music

2014-01-06 Thread Joshua Nichols
So I check the documentation for the dev version, and I notice that there are a few ideas for the next release. Any ideas not mentioned via documentation? Also, I was wondering if any examples of contemporary notation were ever going to be put in the documentation. I know there is a spot for

help, please/ Contemporary Music Notation

2012-04-13 Thread Sabina Covarrubias
Hello, I am new in Lilypond, because I need to include contemprary music notation in my socres, but I can not find any code or examples in the part concerning to Contemporary Music Notation: It is the same in the PDF version http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/contemporary-music

Re: help, please/ Contemporary Music Notation

2012-04-13 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Sabina Covarrubias wrote: Hello, I am new in Lilypond, because I need to include contemprary music notation in my socres, but I can not find any code or examples in the part concerning to Contemporary Music Notation: It is the same in the PDF version

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-19 Thread Mario Moles
Ok! But how can I avoid this? How can I do to have a sign attached to the note? Thanks! In data sabato 18 febbraio 2012 07:37:36, David Kastrup ha scritto: Two more notes: StudlyCaps are not the style used for markup commands, you'd use contemp-sign for the markup. And putting the path in a

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-19 Thread David Kastrup
Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it writes: Ok! But how can I avoid this? How can I do to have a sign attached to the note? Please don't toppost. Without an example to play around with, and you obviously have such an example, it is much harder to make a useful answer. In this case, one would

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-19 Thread Mario Moles
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2012 18:45:29, David Kastrup ha scritto: Please don't toppost. Without an example to play around with, and you obviously have such an example, it is much harder to make a useful answer. In this case, one would likely have to play with the priority overrides.

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-19 Thread David Kastrup
Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it writes: In data domenica 19 febbraio 2012 18:45:29, David Kastrup ha scritto: Please don't toppost. Without an example to play around with, and you obviously have such an example, it is much harder to make a useful answer. In this case, one would likely

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-19 Thread Mario Moles
In data domenica 19 febbraio 2012 21:13:43, David Kastrup ha scritto: \version 2.15.30 #(define-markup-command (contemp-sign layout props) () (interpret-markup layout props #{ \markup \override #'(filled . #t) \path #'0.25 #'((moveto 0.0 0.0)

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-18 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:37 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Two more notes: StudlyCaps are not the style used for markup commands, you'd use contemp-sign for the markup.  And putting the path in a separate variable to keep the markup macro from messing with it seems awkward. There is

Contemporary music

2012-02-17 Thread Mario Moles
Hi lilyponders! How do you make this contemporary sign Thanks! -- oiram/bin/selom Da ognuno secondo le proprie capacità ad ognuno secondo i propri bisogni.attachment: segno?.jpg___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-17 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Mario Moles mario-mo...@libero.it wrote: Hi lilyponders! How do you make this contemporary sign Thanks! -- oiram/bin/selom Da ognuno secondo le proprie capacità ad ognuno secondo i propri bisogni. ___

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-17 Thread Mario Moles
In data venerdì 17 febbraio 2012 14:23:38, Nathan ha scritto: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user \version 2.14.2 contempPath = #'((moveto 0.0 0.0) (curveto -1.1 1.1 -0.5 1.5 0.5 0.5) (lineto 1.1 1.1) (closepath))

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Nathan when.possi...@gmail.com writes: \version 2.14.2 contempPath = #'((moveto 0.0 0.0) (curveto -1.1 1.1 -0.5 1.5 0.5 0.5) (lineto 1.1 1.1) (closepath)) #(define-markup-command (contempSignMarkup layout props) () (interpret-markup

Re: Contemporary music

2012-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Nathan when.possi...@gmail.com writes: \version 2.14.2 contempPath = #'((moveto 0.0 0.0) (curveto -1.1 1.1 -0.5 1.5 0.5 0.5) (lineto 1.1 1.1) (closepath)) #(define-markup-command (contempSignMarkup

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Polesky
Bernardo Barros wrote: I'm thinking of creating a font for contemporary music with the most commonly used symbols. Bernardo, I did a ton of work on this a while ago, then ended up dropping it cold. http://repo.or.cz/w/lilypond/mpolesky.git/shortlog/refs/heads/pictograms I don't know

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-11 Thread Bernardo Barros
Very helpful. Thanks you, everyone. I think the more adequate way would be FontForge - Metafont then. Mark: I will take a look in your repo, thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I think the more adequate way would be FontForge - Metafont then. Well, yes and no. If you plan to add something to LilyPond's fonts, designing with FontForge might work, but a direct translation of the outlines to Metafont will most probably fail: You must add some `metaness' to the MF stuff

Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-10 Thread Bernardo Barros
I'm thinking of creating a font for contemporary music with the most commonly used symbols. I miss a lot of specific symbols and I'm sure a lot of LilyPond users do too. I know that there are some sources for this purpose, and find them very useful. But most are bloated with not very useful

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-10 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 10, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I'm thinking of creating a font for contemporary music with the most commonly used symbols. I miss a lot of specific symbols and I'm sure a lot of LilyPond users do too. This is a fantastic idea. I know that there are some sources

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/7/10 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com: I'm thinking of creating a font for contemporary music with the most commonly used symbols. I miss a lot of specific symbols and I'm sure a lot of LilyPond users do too. I know that there are some sources for this purpose, and find them

Re: Suggestions for a Contemporary Music Font

2011-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/11 8:34 AM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a fan of the SVG backend, because it allows an absolute final touch in the score, and realized that PostScript can not be very compatible with svg. So, also in this case, a Font is a better options then PostScript

[off-topic] (Scandinavian?) MP3 store for contemporary music

2011-01-06 Thread Alexander Kobel
, and don't want to get one just for this buy; so I'm stuck to PayPal or collection on my German bank account. I might have more luck on Scandinavian download sites, but it's hard to find a reputable one if you don't understand the language. So, does anybody know of a store which offers contemporary

Re: [off-topic] (Scandinavian?) MP3 store for contemporary music

2011-01-06 Thread James
hello, On 06/01/2011 09:27, Alexander Kobel wrote: So, does anybody know of a store which offers contemporary music for download? Or by chance, does anyone know another record of Warning to the Rich and can give me a pointer? iTunes. They have a free download of it apparently too! Type

Re: [off-topic] (Scandinavian?) MP3 store for contemporary music

2011-01-06 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2011-01-06 15:02, James wrote: hello, On 06/01/2011 09:27, Alexander Kobel wrote: So, does anybody know of a store which offers contemporary music for download? Or by chance, does anyone know another record of Warning to the Rich and can give me a pointer? iTunes. They have a free

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-23 Thread Bernardo Barros
I suggest using pictograms following Stone's example. I'll try to look at my pictogram code again. Honestly, if someone wants to support this, that might motivate me to budget more time for it. Hi Mark, Thank you for your help. 1. Yes, pictogram symbols for percussion would be *very*

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-23 Thread Bernardo Barros
I suggest using pictograms following Stone's example. I'll try to look at my pictogram code again. Honestly, if someone wants to support this, that might motivate me to budget more time for it. There is this book about them:

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-23 Thread Mark Polesky
Bernardo Barros wrote: 1. Yes, pictogram symbols for percussion would be *very* useful!! That's something I would help if I had the knowledge. Are you doing with Postscript? I'll reply to this separately when I have some time. 2. I was trying to make everything in the same Staff because I

Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hi List, I'm trying to figure out this. I have a part in a score that is for percussion. I read the manual and I find there is a lot of things done for percussion notation, but it is not out-of-the-box for contemporary notation as far as I could understand. Imagine the very common situation of

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hum... I can't do *this*, I guess. But is there another way to change the number of staff lines from one measure to another? \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-positions = #'(-8 -4 -2 1 0 1 2 6 8 9 10) g16^[ g--(\ff\ b e']-) g'32^[-.-( g-. b-. e'-.-)\! \override Staff.StaffSymbol

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Mark Polesky
Bernardo Barros wrote: I can't do this, I guess. But is there another way to change the number of staff lines from one measure to another? Keep your overrides, just add this before each new one: \stopStaff \startStaff - Mark ___

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
That's it! Thanks!! On 22 April 2010 22:55, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote: Bernardo Barros wrote: I can't do this, I guess. But is there another way to change the number of staff lines from one measure to another? Keep your overrides, just add this before each new one:

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
Keep your overrides, just add this before each new one: \stopStaff \startStaff But I guess if I wnat to indicate the name of the instrument that corresponds to these lines I have to do this in Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator, right? Thanks again!! Bernardo

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
But I guess if I wnat to indicate the name of the instrument that corresponds to these lines I have to do this in Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator, right? Sorry: the instrument that corresponds to each one of this space/lines. Trying to figure that out here...

Re: Percussion Setups for Contemporary Music Practice

2010-04-22 Thread Mark Polesky
Bernardo Barros wrote: 1. How can I indicate with precision in the score itself where is the location of each instrument? Perhaps with post-editing in Illustrator with arrow? Must be a more elegant solution. Perhaps a more semantic solution would be to use a different Staff (or

Re: sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-02-07 Thread Matthieu Jacquot
works, and as I am a guitarist there's almost only guitar music, but I'm still looking for new works to publish and it's very open! - http://theshadylanepublishing.com/ The Shady Lane Publishing -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/sheet-music-site-for-contemporary-music

Re: sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-02-07 Thread -Eluze
! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/sheet-music-site-for-contemporary-music-tp27319809p27493086.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-01-26 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, sorry, the topic is not really something about lilypond, but somehow related to. Do You know some good sheet-music sites, that contain contemporary music? Off course, I knnow the great mutopia site, but it has only quite contemporary pieces. I thins it's the same problem

Re: sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-01-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: A better one, in my opinion, is copyus, because it is specialized in contemporary music, but it is not very well known. Wow, thanks for sharing, I've been on the web a /lot/ and yet I never stumbled upon

Re: sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-01-26 Thread Stefan Thomas
let me know! 2010/1/26 Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com wrote: A better one, in my opinion, is copyus, because it is specialized in contemporary music, but it is not very well known. Wow, thanks

Re: sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-01-26 Thread Jack Cooper
Stefan, are you looking looking to create a free sheet music site or are you looking at helping composers generate revenue from sheet music of their compositions (which is really the function of a sheet music publisher)? And by contemporary music, are you thinking specifically classical

Re: sheet music site for contemporary music

2010-01-26 Thread -Eluze
://theshadylanepublishing.com/fr/telechargements.php - getting an error code 404) -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/sheet-music-site-for-contemporary-music-tp27319809p27331326.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-25 Thread Hans Aberg
On 25 Sep 2009, at 07:11, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Joe, can you come up with a short description and a minimal example, so Valentin can add it to the tracker? Will do. Sorry for not replying earlier to your kind offer of help -- I'm going through a bit of a busy patch -- but will get to work

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: If you get the chromatic transposition working properly, I'll commit to helping you get it embedded in LilyPond. Carl, please consider yourself my personal beacon of light in such discussions :-) Could you give me a hint

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-24 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/24/09 1:29 PM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: If you get the chromatic transposition working properly, I'll commit to helping you get it embedded in LilyPond. Carl, please consider yourself my

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-24 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Carl Sorensen wrote: Joe, can you come up with a short description and a minimal example, so Valentin can add it to the tracker? Will do. Sorry for not replying earlier to your kind offer of help -- I'm going through a bit of a busy patch -- but will get to work on this ASAP. :-) Best

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Hans Aberg
On 22 Sep 2009, at 01:09, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Currently Lilypond's transposition is tonal only, with the 'smart transpose' snippet providing a Scheme function to minimise accidental use. Unfortunately this function is incompatible with quarter-tone notation. Discussing with Graham Breed,

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Hans Aberg wrote: What you see is that (i) without naturalizeMusic, transposition fails: transposition alone leaves the final pitch being 'g+5/4' which has no accidental I think is just a bug. Somehow the sharp drops out. It's not so much a bug as a notational impossibility. Think

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Hans Aberg
On 22 Sep 2009, at 11:16, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Hans Aberg wrote: What you see is that (i) without naturalizeMusic, transposition fails: transposition alone leaves the final pitch being 'g+5/4' which has no accidental I think is just a bug. Somehow the sharp drops out. It's not

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Hans Aberg wrote: The correct accidental is a # plus a !/4. It then does not change the scale degree. This will also be correct in if the sharp and microtonal accents are relative a tuning system other than E12. No, it's a DOUBLE-sharp plus a 1/4, which quite obviously does not exist. In

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Hans Aberg
On 22 Sep 2009, at 11:49, Joseph Wakeling wrote: The correct accidental is a # plus a !/4. It then does not change the scale degree. This will also be correct in if the sharp and microtonal accents are relative a tuning system other than E12. No, it's a DOUBLE-sharp plus a 1/4, ... Yes,

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Joseph Wakeling
this is exactly what it does -- and it does report a warning. So I think you need to add a choice of glyph. LilyPond is too primitive to treat # and b and other accidentals as operators acting on all intervals. Well, the point is that a glyph for 5/4 sharp is nonsensical. A contemporary music player

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Hans Aberg
On 22 Sep 2009, at 13:44, Joseph Wakeling wrote: So I think you need to add a choice of glyph. LilyPond is too primitive to treat # and b and other accidentals as operators acting on all intervals. Well, the point is that a glyph for 5/4 sharp is nonsensical. A contemporary music player

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/21/09 5:09 PM, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: As I mentioned a little while back, I'm working on a specialist notation section on contemporary music for the Notation Reference. And, as I also mentioned, I'm going to be trying to implement and/or motivate some

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-22 Thread Hans Aberg
On 22 Sep 2009, at 15:00, Carl Sorensen wrote: If you get the chromatic transposition working properly, I'll commit to helping you get it embedded in LilyPond. My impression is that this works properly, only that LilyPond does not have the capacity to treat # and b as operators that can

Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-21 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Hello all, As I mentioned a little while back, I'm working on a specialist notation section on contemporary music for the Notation Reference. And, as I also mentioned, I'm going to be trying to implement and/or motivate some feature development to support this. The first feature I'm looking

Re: Contemporary music required feature #1: chromatic transposition

2009-09-21 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Joseph Wakeling wrote: Currently Lilypond's transposition is tonal only, with the 'smart transpose' snippet providing a Scheme function to minimise accidental use. Unfortunately this function is incompatible with quarter-tone notation. The attached snippet shows the problem. A quarter-tone

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 10:08:02PM +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/9/4 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: setInstrumentName = #(define-music-function (parser location instrument-name) (string?)  #{    \set Staff.instrumentName = $instrument-name  #}) I'm not in favour of this type

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-06 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/4 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: And perhaps we should avoid the \set Staff.instrumentName tweaks by defining a \setInstrumentName command setInstrumentName = #(define-music-function (parser location instrument-name) (string?)  #{    \set Staff.instrumentName = $instrument-name  

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:22 AM my Windows hard drive tragically fried last week, and I won't be able to do any LilyPond work until next Wednesday at the earliest, and that's when my work starts up again, so I may be delayed quite a bit. That's a bummer - I was

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 11:57 PM On 9/4/09 10:27 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote c_soren...@byu.edu Friday, September 04, 2009 3:06 PM Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override belongs in a

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/4/09 10:37 AM, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote: In order to have a meaningful manual, this may require the addition of some new LilyPond commands, which is *not* a problem. And is to be recommended if it results in an easier user interface.

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: Those actual contemporary scores must be placed in the public domain, licensed under Creative Commons, or licensed under the GNU FDL. If you're thinking about an exerpt of Shostakovich or Glass, then forget about it. Blame copyright law[1], not me. Actually I was

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Graham Percivalgra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Oh, and make sure you vote for your country's Pirate Party. Branches started recently in the UK and Canada, so I've got my next elections' votes lined up.  ;) [off-topic] btw: French Pirate Party's first election is

Pirate Party [was: Re: Contemporary music documentation]

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Valentin Villenave wrote: [off-topic] btw: French Pirate Party's first election is in two weeks here, and since I'm the campaign manager that (partly) explains my lack of time to work on LilyPond ;-) On that note ... does the Pirate Party have any kind of official response to this article by

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/4/09 3:36 AM, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Those actual contemporary scores must be placed in the public domain, licensed under Creative Commons, or licensed under the GNU FDL. If you're thinking about an exerpt of Shostakovich or Glass,

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Carl Sorensen wrote: Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. In order to have a meaningful manual, this may require the addition of some new LilyPond commands, which is *not* a problem. Do you mean in the

Re: Pirate Party [was: Re: Contemporary music documentation]

2009-09-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Joseph Wakelingjoseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: On that note ... does the Pirate Party have any kind of official response to this article by Richard Stallman? http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html Yes we do (as a matter of fact I am the Pirate

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote c_soren...@byu.edu Friday, September 04, 2009 3:06 PM Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. This certainly is a rule for NR 1, but is not absolutely essential for NR 2. But in

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Trevor Daniels wrote: In order to have a meaningful manual, this may require the addition of some new LilyPond commands, which is *not* a problem. And is to be recommended if it results in an easier user interface. I do have some concrete ideas here, which I'll lay out in an email sometime

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/4/09 10:27 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote c_soren...@byu.edu Friday, September 04, 2009 3:06 PM Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. This certainly is

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
?) of the contemporary music pages would make heavy use of tweaks. And perhaps we should avoid the \set Staff.instrumentName tweaks by defining That would be nice! a \setInstrumentName command NOO!!! % Graham falls off the walkway into the garbage % chute, soon to reappear

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Polesky
Joseph Wakeling wrote: (i) Would people be interested in having this in the docs? (ii) Any requests or suggestions for topics that should be covered? (iii) What are the restrictions on including examples from actual contemporary scores? I'm not thinking huge

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Mark Polesky wrote: I've already done a ton of work on keyboard tone-clusters and percussion pictograms, but my Windows hard drive tragically fried last week, and I won't be able to do any LilyPond work until next Wednesday at the earliest, and that's when my work starts up again, so I may be

Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Hello all, Following my fun experience writing some documentation for makam.ly and Turkish classical music, I'm thinking of writing a section on contemporary music for the Notation Reference. This would join the existing sections of Chapter 2 on various other forms of specialist notation

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Bryan Stanbridge wrote: One thing that's always been a pain to me are the box score notations where a small snippet of music is enclosed in a box, then a dark line with or without an arrow will run for the duration that the performer is to repeat the box. I've stayed away from typesetting most

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:15 PM Following my fun experience writing some documentation for makam.ly and Turkish classical music, I'm thinking of writing a section on contemporary music for the Notation Reference. This would join the existing sections of Chapter 2

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
addressed in the docs, but they're spread out and not necessarily all easy to find -- one of the motivations for the proposed section is to have one single 'contemporary music' space to guide people to the right sections of the existing manuals. I'll start working on this, bit by bit -- if it's OK

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
? Not as far as I know. To the general point, there are lots of contemporary notation issues already addressed in the docs, but they're spread out and not necessarily all easy to find -- one of the motivations for the proposed section is to have one single 'contemporary music' space to guide people

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Trevor Daniels wrote: Stubs are fine, but make them visible rather than commented out, perhaps followed by TBC (to be completed). You could do this in the Turkish section too - I'm sure that's what Graham meant. Sure. In that case I just removed stuff because I was fairly sure I wasn't

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:15:50PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: (iii) What are the restrictions on including examples from actual contemporary scores? I'm not thinking huge extracts, but maybe a couple of bars from a known work just to illustrate how a