Re: Appending minor chords with "sus2/sus4"

Lukas, Aaaah, that makes sense. As a classical stiff I just assumed that suspensions resolve downwards by default, so the 2 was in fact a suspended tonic, not a suspended third. And since the minor third is already present in the chord I'm dealing with, I think I'll just change it to Gm add9.

Re: Appending minor chords with "sus2/sus4"

Brent Annable wrote: Hi all, I'm currently adding chords to some music, and I can't seem to find anywhere how to create a "Gmsus2" chord name. [..] I feel like I'm just missing something, is there an easy way to display this chord type? See the discussion here:

Re: Appending minor chords with "sus2/sus4"

Hi Brent, I'm currently adding chords to some music, and I can't seem to find anywhere how to create a "Gmsus2" chord name. When I type "g:msus2" lilypond freaks out, and as far as I can tell, this particular combination of a minor chord with an added suspension never appears in the

Appending minor chords with "sus2/sus4"

Hi all, I'm currently adding chords to some music, and I can't seem to find anywhere how to create a "Gmsus2" chord name. When I type "g:msus2" lilypond freaks out, and as far as I can tell, this particular combination of a minor chord with an added suspension never appears in the documentation

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: >> Le 17 août 2016 à 21:26, David Kastrup a écrit: >> >> Johan Vromans writes: >> >>> David Kastrup wrote: >>> ... the change to let c:5 exclude the third was introduced as late

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

BTW, how are such regression tests devised and organized? JM > Le 17 août 2016 à 21:26, David Kastrup a écrit : > > Johan Vromans writes: > >> David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> ... the change to let >>> c:5 exclude the third was introduced as

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

Johan Vromans writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > >> ... the change to let >> c:5 exclude the third was introduced as late as version 2.19.28). > > Does that mean that there are no (regression)tests for musicxml2ly? Probably not enough. -- David Kastrup

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

David Kastrup wrote: > ... the change to let > c:5 exclude the third was introduced as late as version 2.19.28). Does that mean that there are no (regression)tests for musicxml2ly? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:15:02 +0200 David Kastrup wrote: > Well, musicxml2ly.py presumably also generates a \version header, and > running convert-ly on the resulting file possibly fixes a number of > those problems (even though it complicates the rules, the change to let > c:5

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

Johan Vromans writes: > Johan Vromans wrote: > >> is translated into >> >> d:m5 >> >> and apparently not understood -- lilypond renders it as a major D chord >> without warning. > > The code in musicxml2ly.py does, indeed, generate :m5 for minor.

Re: MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

Johan Vromans wrote: > is translated into > > d:m5 > > and apparently not understood -- lilypond renders it as a major D chord > without warning. The code in musicxml2ly.py does, indeed, generate :m5 for minor. Surprisingly, the NR, A.2 Common chord modifiers, reads:

MusicXML2Ly: Problem with minor chords

Hi, In the attached XML, the minor D chord D minor is translated into d:m5 and apparently not understood -- lilypond renders it as a major D chord without warning. Dm(maj7) becomes d:maj7m5. A similar thing happens to half-diminished

Re: minor chords

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 22:03:49 -0400 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Simon (et al.), I think this is one of the few questions where it’s really difficult to establish a standard. Agreed. It’s the one big disappointment that I have in Gould’s engraving book: she

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Am 22.03.2014 02:45, schrieb Anthony Youngman: And I don't tend to dig deep into all the esoteric settings - there are so many of them that I don't understand, that I tend to shy away from them. I shouldn't, but I'd rather just use standard bells and whistles - when I need to use all sorts of

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

On 22/03/2014 07:50, Simon Albrecht wrote: Am 22.03.2014 02:45, schrieb Anthony Youngman: And I don't tend to dig deep into all the esoteric settings - there are so many of them that I don't understand, that I tend to shy away from them. I shouldn't, but I'd rather just use standard bells and

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

- Original Message - From: Anthony Youngman anth...@youngman.org.uk To: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:45 AM Subject: Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic) Oh - and sorry Phil, page-count = 1

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Am 22.03.2014 11:01, schrieb Anthony: Well, I've put in a fair bit of time and effort over the years. The problem, as always, is finding time to play, and also remembering what worked last time :-) Many moons ago, I proofread the entire main manual about three times! I've dug into the code

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

On 19/03/14 18:13, Kieren MacMillan wrote: there is no setting that says force everything onto one page, beauty be damned Does \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission = ##f not work for you? Cheers, Kieren. m not met that. My first reaction though, is

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Hi Wol, \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission = ##f m not met that. My first reaction though, is why would what appears to be a line-break setting affect the number of pages? Sorry — should have been \override

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

On 17/03/2014 10:40, Robert Schmaus wrote: But there's another thing that surprises me in this discussion: I always thought that Lilypond is mainly being used and intended for classical (exact) music. I think it's always been intended to produce beautiful music for any usage requirement. The

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

- Original Message - From: Anthony anth...@youngman.org.uk To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:34 PM Subject: Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic) On 17/03/2014 10:40, Robert Schmaus wrote: But there's another thing that surprises me

RE: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

there is no setting that says force everything onto one page, beauty be damned Does \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission = ##f not work for you? Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user

Re: minor chords

Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi Simon (et al.), I think this is one of the few questions where it’s really difficult to establish a standard. Agreed. It’s the one big disappointment that I have in Gould’s engraving book: she doesn’t even address the subject at

Re: minor chords

Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: Beware of shortcuts which are for the benefit of the writer. IMO, engraving decisions should be made for the benefit of the reader. To some degree, we can separate those with LilyPond, but there is something to be said for human-readable source code as

Re: minor chords

Am 17.03.2014 01:45, schrieb Jim Long: I understand the Cmi7, too, but when sketching some chords on paper during a Jazz session, a simple - is way faster to write than mi all the way. So it's rather a matter of personal taste IMHO. Just my 2 cents Marc With great respect, I beg to add,

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

So, again, it boils down to whatever works. There's no standard to this, and frankly, I've never experienced that as a problem. Jazz music is improvised music, and I don't know a jazz musician who has problems improvising here as well. Everyone has different preferences, sure, but problems

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de writes: So, again, it boils down to whatever works. There's no standard to this, and frankly, I've never experienced that as a problem. Jazz music is improvised music, and I don't know a jazz musician who has problems improvising here as well. Everyone has

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

- Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. On 17 Mar 2014, at 11:57, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de writes: So, again, it boils down to whatever works. There's no standard to this, and frankly, I've never experienced that as a problem. Jazz music is

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de writes: - Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. [full-quote without content elided] I think Jazz musicians really should get off the habit of only writing - when it would be so much easier to get their meaning if they were just a bit more verbose. -- David

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking into the problem some months ago and found a email correspondence between David kastrup and others about the removal of the accepts technique. I have never seen that it was later replaced by this new command. My apologies! Also for sending an accidental reply

Re: minor chords (and a possible transition to a new topic)

Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de writes: Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking into the problem some months ago and found a email correspondence between David kastrup and others about the removal of the accepts technique. I have never seen that it was later replaced by this new command. There is

Re: minor chords

Am 16.03.2014 04:36, schrieb David Raleigh Arnold: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:19:28 +0100 (CET) Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, [...] Minus for minor is a horrible idea. It's also old fashioned and abandoned even by the Real Book. I don't want to start a philosophical

Re: minor chords

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: Minus for minor is a horrible idea. It's also old fashioned and abandoned even by the Real Book. What do you mean by the Real Book? I have a copy of the original Real Book. It uses the - for minor. I tried to exactly recreate an old Real

Re: minor chords

Hi all, Personally, I use - for minor chords, and add a superscript triangle-7 I find the triangle to be less well-known in the circles in which I travel — mostly music theatre, but also some jazzers (n.b., most, of course, are familiar with the triangle notation). The best notation I’ve

Re: minor chords

I wonder why the notation of minor as lowercase seems to be only known in German folk circles ... (I’m glad I could nag some of you long enough to make it possible in LilyPond.) Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/

Re: minor chords

Hi, I wonder why the notation of minor as lowercase seems to be only known in German folk circles … It’s known here, too — at least in my circles — but avoided, mostly because at a glance it can be hard to tell c from C. =) As in all notation, ambiguity is to be avoided at all costs.

Re: minor chords

Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net writes: I wonder why the notation of minor as lowercase seems to be only known in German folk circles ... (I’m glad I could nag some of you long enough to make it possible in LilyPond.) Well, it's usefulness is limited as soon as you count the

Re: minor chords

Am 16.03.2014 17:52, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi, I wonder why the notation of minor as lowercase seems to be only known in German folk circles … It’s known here, too — at least in my circles — but avoided, mostly because at a glance it can be hard to tell c from C. =) As in all notation,

Re: minor chords

Hi Simon, I’m under the impression that this debate is very old, widespread and unlikely to end in onemindedness True. so it’s just advisable to provide different options, which will let everyone have his will That doesn’t logically follow! :) Well-considered and concensus- (if not

Re: minor chords

Am 17.03.2014 00:15, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Simon, I’m under the impression that this debate is very old, widespread and unlikely to end in onemindedness True. so it’s just advisable to provide different options, which will let everyone have his will That doesn’t logically follow!

Re: minor chords

I understand the Cmi7, too, but when sketching some chords on paper during a Jazz session, a simple - is way faster to write than mi all the way. So it's rather a matter of personal taste IMHO. Just my 2 cents Marc With great respect, I beg to add, Beware of shortcuts which are for

Re: minor chords

Hi Simon (et al.), I think this is one of the few questions where it’s really difficult to establish a standard. Agreed. It’s the one big disappointment that I have in Gould’s engraving book: she doesn’t even address the subject at all!! Plus: there’s still some leap between the lilypond

Re: minor chords

Hi Jim (et al.), engraving decisions should be made for the benefit of the reader. +1 Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: minor chords

in the manual how to do that. I also want to use a minus sign for minor chords. e.g. C- instead of Cm. How can I achieve that? Minus for minor is a horrible idea. It's also old fashioned and abandoned even by the Real Book. It could be ignored as a spacer. Minus could be taken to mean omit. Cmmaj7

minor chords

Hi, I am working on a leadsheet (melody and chords) which is a job I don't do very often. I want to print maj7 chordnames using maj7 or Maj7 instead of the default triangle. I have found in the manual how to do that. I also want to use a minus sign for minor chords. e.g. C- instead of Cm

Re: minor chords

On 14 March 2014 16:19, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@gmail.com wrote: I also want to use a minus sign for minor chords. e.g. C- instead of Cm. How can I achieve that? Luckily for you, I implemented that option in LilyPond a while ago :) \chordmode { \set minorChordModifier

Re: minor chords

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Adam Spiers wrote: Luckily for you, I implemented that option in LilyPond a while ago :) \chordmode { \set minorChordModifier = \markup { - } ... Thanks! I was searching an older manual. -- MT ___

Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

Thibaut Chevalier wrote: However, i had to write this complicated markup to obtain a correct 7 / b5 for semi-diminished chords (instead of the dashed circle). c ees ges bes-\markup { - \super {7/ \hspace #0.2 \teeny {\raise #0.3 \flat} 5} }% C dashed circle - C-7/5b It seems

Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

Thibaut Chevalier wrote: Thanks, it works great ! I personnally prefer the minus sign which is a little shorter. However, i had to write this complicated markup to obtain a correct 7 / b5 for semi-diminished chords (instead of the dashed circle). c ees ges bes-\markup { - \super {7/

Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

Hi there,Is there a way to get a dash (-) instead of m for minor chords in chordmode notation ?I found there is a special property to change the maj7 triangle to whatever we want, but is there nothing for the 'm' ? The dash is widely used, in jazz at least, that's too bad if it it not possible

Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

Hi! Is there a way to get a dash (-) instead of m for minor chords in chordmode notation ? Thanks for any bright solution I don't know if it's bright or not, but short of going into the appropriate .scm file and changing the m there to a -, you would have go do the chordNameExceptions route

Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

I use the same system as Shamus, but I use the dash simbol instad the minus symbol, because I find it to be a bit more polite. So I have then: jazzyChordsMusic = { c ees g1-\markup {#(ly:export (ly:wide-char-utf-8 #x2013))} % Cm - C- % and so on... } I have jazzyChordsMusic and