German software group threatens to sue SCO on Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Dave Jones
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030528/tech_sco_linuxtag_1.html FRANKFURT, May 28 (Reuters) - A German software group on Wednesday threatened to take U.S. software firm SCO Group (NasdaqSC:SCOX - News) to court if it did not withdraw from a worldwide attack on Linux, the free computer operating system.

Re: German software group threatens to sue SCO on Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Phil Payne
FRANKFURT, May 28 (Reuters) - A German software group on Wednesday threatened to take U.S. software firm SCO Group (NasdaqSC:SCOX - News) to court if it did not withdraw from a worldwide attack on Linux, the free computer operating system. I wonder that we haven't heard from G|nter Freiherr

Re: DIAG vs. ECKD question

2003-05-29 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Marcy. The Redbook doesn't really go into a great deal of detail on DIAG vs. ECKD dasd drivers. The real performance gains come from using the DIAG driver vs. the FBA driver. Linux i/o performance is very difficult to accurately measure, especially in the z/VM environment, but we have had

HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread Chet Norris
Can I search for an occurrance of a string within files, within a directory? I'm looking for a reference to /home in a config file or script somewhere. = Chet Norris Marriott International,Inc. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync

Re: HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
find /etc -type f -exec grep -l /home {} \; Since you're searching for something that is possibly referring to a home directory, be aware that the syntax ~/ refers to the home directory of the current user. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Chet Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread McKown, John
The others have mentioned using grep or find and grep. I'd suggest using fgrep instead if you are not doing a regular expression search. It is just a bit faster. Perhaps not significantly, but I'm too used to cycles being expensive and shared to not use the slightly more efficient when it is not

Press Release: Novell Challenges SCO Position, Reiterates Support for Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
There is some _really_ good stuff coming out of Novell today. The last bit about SCO failed to assert a claim for copyright or patent infringement against IBM has resulted in SCO now stating that SCO's lawsuit against IBM does not involve patents or copyrights. SCO's complaint specifically

Microsoft Loses City of Munich Deal to Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Dave Jones
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=569ncid=738e=1u=/nm/20030528/tc_nm/tech_munich_microsoft_dc (that's all one line, watch out for line breaks) MUNICH (Reuters) - The city of Munich said on Wednesday that it would switch 14,000 computers from Microsoft's Windows operating system

Sharing problem

2003-05-29 Thread Monteleone
Hi all, I get this error as soon as I try to share a minidisk, has someone already solved this trouble ? Thanks in advance. SLES7(beta) with kernel 2.4.19 May2002 dasd_erp(3990): /dev/dasdd ( 94: 12),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: EXAMINE 24: Command Reject detected - fatal error dasd(eckd):

Re: Sharing problem

2003-05-29 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
You should describe this disk in r/o mode in VM and in Linux (dasd=0203(ro)...) WBR, Sergey Monteleone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28.05.2003 19:36 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:

SAP DB ?

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
An applications developer here asked me about whether SAP DB (www.sapdb.org) ran on z Series. I couldn't find info on their website, anyone know? __ Marcy Cortes, VM Systems Programming, 415-243-6343

Re: SAP DB ?

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Marcy, The last time I was involved with the port, there were still a couple of relatively small issues with getting it built. We were awfully close, though. Now, with SAP and MySQL AB forming a partnership over the package, it's hard to say where it's going to go. Mark Post -Original

Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I'm not sure where to look to debug this problem. I've been testing Suse 8. We have been on Suse 7 for about a year. When I install Suse 8, it connects to VM's TCP/IP machine and runs just fine. This is z/VM 4.2 btw. However, when I cycle Linux, it doesn't connect back to IP. But, if I cycle

Re: SAP DB ?

2003-05-29 Thread Jim Sibley
There's lots of info on the IBM starting on www.ibm.com. Here is a redbook that talks about SAP/DB2 on zSeries for Linux This IBM Redbook focuses on the implementation of SAP application servers on Linux for zSeries. It applies to IBM z/OS V1R2 (5694-A01), IBM z/VM V4.2 (5739-A04), SuSE Linux

Missing XRC_supported under VM

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Duerbusch
While reading the console messages from booting Linux 8 under z/VM 4.2, I noticed a message stating that I was missing VM support. Really? What kind of support is missing? I take it that it is available in z/VM 4.3. Just wondering how much of a problem this is and how much concern I should

Re: HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread Chet Norris
Thanks. I'm getting better at looking for the right terms, but sometimes I just can't find what I want. --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: find /etc -type f -exec grep -l /home {} \; Since you're searching for something that is possibly referring to a home directory, be aware that the

Re: SAP DB ?

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
But she's specifically asking about the SAPDB part running on Linux/390. That part isn't quite there yet. We had some IBM folks looking at a couple of the problems, but that didn't seem to get us over the hump. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Jim Sibley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Tom, I have this exact same problem on one of my SuSE systems that I upgraded to a 2.4.19 kernel. I switched to IUCV instead. If you don't want to go with Guest LANS (and you _really_ should), IUCV is the better way to go than CTC. They're both point to point (which stinks), and IUCV seems to

Re: Missing XRC_supported under VM

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Tom, Nope, you'll see that message with z/VM 4.3 also. It doesn't seem to cause any problems (other than a little anxiety in the Linux/390 support folks). Mark Post -Original Message- From: Tom Duerbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Duerbusch
You are right, in both cases. Stopping the IP device and starting it again worked, at least the first time. I do plan on moving to IUCV. But during the initial testing, I'm keeping the things I have control over, the same as I had in Suse 7. I don't have guest lans support (z/VM 4.2), but I'm

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Tom, You can have Guest LANs with z/VM 4.2. They just won't have broadcast capability. You _really_ want to move to Guest LANs, even without that. Really. Mark Post Really. -Original Message- From: Tom Duerbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:15 PM To:

Re: Missing XRC_supported under VM

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Duerbusch
If anxiety is the only problem, I can deal with it. Just hate the thought of something I overlooked actually being a problem. It does make me wonder what XRC support is. But it will be years before I actually get dasd that would have XRC support in it...so what me worry? (I hope I didn't

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Aria Bamdad
On Wed, 28 May 2003 13:03:41 -0400 Post, Mark K said: I have this exact same problem on one of my SuSE systems that I upgraded to a 2.4.19 kernel. I switched to IUCV instead. If you don't want to go with Guest LANS (and you _really_ should), IUCV is the better way to go than CTC. They're both

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
Actually you do have Hipersocket Guest LAN support in z/VM 4.2. On Wednesday 28 May 2003 12:15 pm, you wrote: You are right, in both cases. Stopping the IP device and starting it again worked, at least the first time. I do plan on moving to IUCV. But during the initial testing, I'm

OT: RE: Missing XRC_supported under VM

2003-05-29 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
...so what me worry? (I hope I didn't violate a trademark for MAD magazineG) As a long-time reader of MAD (the only thing that kept me same through graduate school) I can tell you you didn't violate any copyrights. There aren't any. The Alfred E. Neuman character (just his face, not his name)

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/28/2003 at 01:19 EDT, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you setup guest lans if you want to use IP addresses for the linux guests that are not private addresses? What I mean is if you VM host is on 1.2.3.x subnet and you want the linux guests served by the VM TCPIP

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Aria Bamdad
On Wed, 28 May 2003 15:09:59 -0400 Alan Altmark said: Use NAT in the gateway to handle the translation. Or wait for z/VM 4.4. I am at 4.3 now. Can the VM stack do NAT? I did see some documents on this but it involved using a linux guest as the router.

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
How do you setup guest lans if you want to use IP addresses for the linux guests that are not private addresses? What I mean is if you VM host is on 1.2.3.x subnet and you want the linux guests served by the VM TCPIP to be on the same 1.2.3.x subnet, how is it done? I thought the guest lans had

Re: SAP DB ?

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Thanks Mark. I'll pass your answer on to the developer here. He's already using MySQL. Marcy *** But she's specifically asking about the SAPDB part running on Linux/390. That part isn't quite there yet. We had some IBM folks

Re: HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 11:01:48AM -0400, Post, Mark K wrote: find /etc -type f -exec grep -l /home {} \; Or, simpler: grep -r /home . or maybe just: grep * /home Adding '2/dev/null' in the end may also help in case of permission problems you don't want to know about. -- Tzafrir Cohen

SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
I'm still trying to figure out where to place things that used to be in the /etc/rc.config in SLES 7. For instance, I want to start Mysql and SNMPD. In Sles 7 rc.config contained: START_MYSQL = yes START_SNMPD = yes Where do I do this under SLES 8? (and where is this stuff documented???)

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
I'm working on the same think Marcy is. there are LOTS of things that don't exist in SLES8 that used to in SLES7. Where did they go? /etc/rc.config is a good place to start. I see that some of the stuff has moved to /etc/sysconfig, but not all. Where did it go? Where's the documentation?

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Did you use YaST2 to do the installation? Perhaps that sort of task is done from there. One way to find out where some of this might be done is rpm -ql packagename and see what winds up under /etc. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
The same place the documentation has always been for SuSE. On CD1, in directory /docu I don't believe it gets to this level of detail, though. I expect SuSE thinks you should be using YaST for this. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Simpler for this particular case, perhaps, but less flexible and powerful. Getting people to learn more about the find command is always a Good Thing. Plus, I don't think your second example is going to do anyone any good. The * will expand to all file and directory names in the current

Re: RedHat vs Suse

2003-05-29 Thread Post, Mark K
Duane, I would not say that any of the Linux/390 distributions work better with VM than any of the others. I also have my doubts that DSPACE (what ever that is) would run better on one Linux/390 distribution versus another. Without more information, that sounds a lot like magical thinking rather

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Thanks! I was beginning to feel like I was losing my mind. I thought it would be much easier to customize SLES 8 given that at least this time, I have a little more current Linux knowledge. 2 more things have me stumped: - How can I allow root to logon at the console only (and I'd still like

Re: Suse 8 TCP/IP timeouts during boot

2003-05-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 05/28/2003 at 03:14 EDT, Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003 15:09:59 -0400 Alan Altmark said: Use NAT in the gateway to handle the translation. Or wait for z/VM 4.4. I am at 4.3 now. Can the VM stack do NAT? I did see some documents on this but it

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Mark Post wrote: The same place the documentation has always been for SuSE. On CD1, in directory /docu Nothing new there. Just the installation guide and the readme's and a bunch of the ibm redbooks. I don't believe it gets to this level of detail, though. I expect SuSE thinks you should be

Re: RedHat vs Suse

2003-05-29 Thread Matt Lashley/SCO
Suse seems to be talking to the IBM folk more than the others. It was rumored to me, some time ago, that SuSE enjoyed(s) a geographical closeness with one of IBM's Euro research facilities and that, in general, helped foster the initial IBM, S390 Linux, SuSE coupling. 'Twas, however, only a

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Ferguson, Neale
chkconfig works well. There are also a heap of scripts named rcservice (e.g. rcnfsserver) that allow you to start/stop/restart a service without having to know exactly where the underlying script lives.

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Neale wrote: chkconfig works well. There are also a heap of scripts named rcservice (e.g. rcnfsserver) that allow you to start/stop/restart a service without having to know exactly where the underlying script lives. chkconfig works - it just reports them being off. Where do I set them on at

Re: Microsoft Loses City of Munich Deal to Linux

2003-05-29 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 28 May 2003 23:53, you wrote: Dave Jones Please, when you introduce a new topic (as opposed to wandering off at a tangent), don't reply to another. Some email clients, mine included, understand and use headers designed for threading. The result is that this article will not appear in a

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Ignore my previous note: chkconfig snmpd on !! Well, who'd have guessed that? Now how would I have ever figured that out without Neale and Mark?? Marcy (who needs to go have a beer)

Re: HOWTO : Search

2003-05-29 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 28 May 2003 23:18, you wrote: The others have mentioned using grep or find and grep. I'd suggest using fgrep instead if you are not doing a regular expression search. It is just a bit faster. Perhaps not significantly, but I'm too used to cycles being expensive and shared to not use

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
If they come up in the chkconfig list, then 'chkconfig snmpd on', 'chkconfig apache on' and 'chkconfig mysql on'. On Wednesday 28 May 2003 04:16 pm, you wrote: Neale wrote: chkconfig works well. There are also a heap of scripts named rcservice (e.g. rcnfsserver) that allow you to

Re: RedHat vs Suse

2003-05-29 Thread John Summerfield
On Thu, 29 May 2003 04:07, you wrote: I also have my doubts that DSPACE (what ever that is) would run better on one Linux/390 distribution versus another. Without more information A quick google: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t289-s2125337,00.html http://www.dspace.org/ It's hosted at sf.

Re: Missing XRC_supported under VM

2003-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
My 4.3 system complains about it too. I'm assuming it is IBM Extended Remote Copy. We use that for MVS, not VM :(. Here's more info: http://www.storage.ibm.com/software/sms/sdm/sdmxrc.html Tom wrote: It does make me wonder what XRC support is. But it will be years before I actually get dasd

Re: Missing XRC_supported under VM

2003-05-29 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Marcy, how do you mean complains? What sort of messages are being printed on the system consoles? And remember when it comes to VM, and its descendents, I'm something of a naïf. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accessing IBM 5120 storage from zseries Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Don Mulvey
I was wondering if anyone could comment about accessing 5120 storage from their Linux systems. I heard that the disks appear as scsi disks and so the 390 dasd block driver isn't involved in accessing/formatting these devices. In fact, my understanding is that you use the IBM Subsystem Device

More on SCO

2003-05-29 Thread John Summerfield
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/30910.html In the latest installment of The Canopy Family - a drama to rival the The Magnificent Ambersons - Novell has rebuffed SCO's claim to hold Unix copyrights and patents. -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at

Re: password visible while login to Linux390 zVM Imag e

2003-05-29 Thread Ferguson, Neale
On my x3270 client I go to options-change keymap... -Original Message- How exactly? Do you mean the .x3270pro file? What is the config line, exactly?

Re: password visible while login to Linux390 zVM Imag e

2003-05-29 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Oh, .x3270pro is the correct file too if you want. Check the doc. in /usr/share/doc/packages/x3270/x3270-3.2/html/Keymap.html

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Bishop, Peter G
Hi, if one wants to use Yast, I found the Runlevel editor screen handy for this when I needed to start other services at startup, and when I looked now there was an entry there for Mysql and snmpd. To get there, go to System-Runlevel editor and then choose the Runlevel Properties option, which

VM VSE linux/390 Employment Web Page

2003-05-29 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings; (Posted to VMESA-L and VSE-L and LINUX-390) - - Now in its sixth year! - - Includes VSE and linux/390! I have set up a public service web page at http://www.eskimo.com/~wix/vm/ for posting positions available and wanted for VM, VSE and linux/390. Please visit the web

Re: Accessing IBM 5120 storage from zseries Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Vic Cross
Just started doing this on our z800... Neale, your presentation is a great guide. Also useful are a Redbook and Redpaper on the subject: Implementing Linux with IBM Disk Storage (good information about the ESS side of the issue) Getting Started with zSeries Fibre Channel Protocol (more help to

Re: Microsoft Loses City of Munich Deal to Linux

2003-05-29 Thread Albert Schwar
On Wed, 28 May 2003 10:53:51 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: MUNICH (Reuters) - The city of Munich said on Wednesday that it would switch 14,000 computers from Microsoft's Windows operating system to rival Linux Not yet decided. Microsoft claims to be allowed to improve its tender. --- Albert

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
*** Reply to note of Wed, 28 May 2003 12:54:17 -0700 (MST/PDT) *** by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lots of the stuff moved to the /etc/sysconfig directory Sal Wolfe, Gordon W [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm working on the same think Marcy is. there are LOTS of things that = don't exist in SLES8 that used

Re: SLES 8 question - starting things

2003-05-29 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
The setup on SLES8 is more like Redhat now. The old system built a runlevel link for every task, and had rc.config variables to let the scripts decide whether or not to start the daemons. The new version depends on the existence of the links in each runlevel directory (/etc/init.d/rc?.d), and