2004-01-26 Recommended Linux code drop to developerWorks

2004-01-26 Thread Gerhard Hiller
Please see the What's New page at: http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/whatsnew.shtml for a change summary of the 2004-01-26 additions and changes to the Linux for zSeries and S/390 developerWorks Web pages. August 2001 stream: o kernel 2.4.17: - kernel patch

developers require older version of c++ lib on 2.4.xx system

2004-01-26 Thread Rich Blair
A group of our developers would like to run an application on linux 2.4.19 system that was originally compiled on a 2.2.16 system. The library they require is libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 which apparently is no longer available once you get to linux 2.4.xx. I'm not a c++ programmer so I'm wondering

Re: Weird OSA issue...anyone else???

2004-01-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 01/23/2004 at 12:17 CST, Lucius, Leland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been running into a problem every so often that I can't track down and thought I'd just throw it out here to see if I get any bites. I have 2 Gbit OSAs that I share among my guests and use VIPA to provide

Re: developers require older version of c++ lib on 2.4.xx system

2004-01-26 Thread James Tison
Rich, I don't think you can get away with that. Kernel 2.4.19 sounds like you're running SLES 8, which comes with gcc 3.2. The gcc folks specifically changed the C++ ABI at either 3.0 or 3.1. I'd suggest your developers recompile their application and go from there. What matters here isn't the

adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Ken Vance
Hi, I am trying to add DASD to a new SuSE8 install. I am trying ti use the same procedure that I used for the 2.4.7 kernel. 1.) ICKDSF format the packs, and then CMS format the MDISK areas 2.) echo -n add device range=204-207/proc/dasd/devices 3.) UPDATE zipl.conf and then perform a zipl 4.) I

Re: adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Eric Sammons
Check to ensure the following kernel mods are loaded, at least this is what I have and I run LVM w/ Reiserfs. lvm-mod dasd_mod dasd_eckd_mod Eric Sammons (804)697-3925 FRIT - Unix Systems Ken Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2004 11:45 AM Please

Re: adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Eric Sammons
What does your /proc/dasd/devices look like after you execute the echo procedure? Thanks! Eric Sammons (804)697-3925 FRIT - Unix Systems Ken Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2004 11:45 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL

RE : adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Herve Bonvin
I think you need to partition de MDISK fdasd ... -Original Message- From: Ken Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: adding DASD in SuSE8 Hi, I am trying to add DASD to a new SuSE8 install. I am trying ti use the same

Re: developers require older version of c++ lib on 2.4.xx system

2004-01-26 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Also check to see if you can run with the compat libs. Look for an install rpm on your install CDs with a name of compat or compat-libs. Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this. _ Anonymous Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. (425)865-5940 VM Technical Services,

Re: Pros and Cons to sharing /usr

2004-01-26 Thread Alan Schilla
We find the benefits gained by using shared /usr are probably not worth the additional effort. We started our Linux under VM environment by allocating full volumes to our Linux guest installs. This made for straight forward management and also provided a pretty simple backup environment but

Re: adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Looks like you haven't created the partition: fdasd -a /dev/dasdd dasdd is the whole disk dasdd1 is the first partition created by fdasd. dasdd2 would be the second, but supposedly that doesn't work. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: Pros and Cons to sharing /usr

2004-01-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Eric wrote: I have heard that Levanta is great but once in your environment it is near impossible to remove. I wouldn't say that. What you would do is move to a server that is not part of your Levanta setup. Levanta and non-Levanta servers can coexist on the same VM system (that's where we

Re: Pros and Cons to sharing /usr

2004-01-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Eric wrote: And is DASD really that expensive? I know my time is. The number they throw around here is that we pay 7 cents a Megabyte (YMMV). Now, that may not sound all that much, there are other costs associated. Like backing it all up and having some place to recover it. How many

Re: adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Post, Mark K
Ummm, just _what_ supposedly doesn't work? Using multiple partitions on DASD? If so, then I have to emphatically state that it _does_ work. I'm using it on a number of my systems with absolutely no problems. $ df Filesystem 1k-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on /dev/dasda1 2365528

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Phil Payne
I would love whatever branch of the us government involved in investigating organized crime, specifically extortion and racketeering to investigate the SCO Groups actions in regards to collecting license fees for intellectual property whose alleged ownership, alleged theft and alleged

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Wells
SCO should be sued for being STUPID as well as the attorney's they should be ??? your choice LOL as for this even getting to the courts and wasting the time and money ?? oh well -- par for the course ..

Re: adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Post, Mark K
Ken, As others have stated, you need to run fdasd to partition your DASD volumes. With later versions of dasdfmt, the cdl, or compatible disk layout, became the default, and ldl an option. So, unless you specify -d ldl on your dasdfmt command, you will need to create at least 1 partition on that

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Ronald Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SCO sues Novell SCO should be sued for being STUPID as well as the attorney's they should be ??? your choice LOL as for this even getting

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Wells
Yes---so true---just getting frustrated with all this that goes on in courts and people doing this type of junk .. I for one hope they get what they really deserve and it to be a corner movement to nail anyone else that tries this again..and maybe bleed over to other dumb case like suing

HP Openview Operations (OVO) - no agent for Linux 390

2004-01-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
We use this product to monitor unix systems (and windows too I think). There is an agent for Linux on Intel, but none on 390 (and our request was rejected). I was wondering if other sites have a need for it or if there are alternatives that we should be looking at instead (not that I'm going to

Re: adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Okay, I stand corrected. I haven't tried multiple partitions because with VM minidisks and LVM, there didn't seem to be much point. I do recall reading once that more than one partition wasn't actually supported by all of the components involved, but that was back in the early SLES7 days, so

Re: HP Openview Operations (OVO) - no agent for Linux 390

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Shilson
We use Openview for our non-390 systems also. I have set up a VM id that pings all our L/390 systems and issues an alert via Tivoli if one goes silent. It works pretty well. _/) Tom Shilson ~GEDW VM System Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591

Re: developers require older version of c++ lib on 2.4.xx system

2004-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2004-01-26 at 14:56, Rich Blair wrote: I'm not a c++ programmer so I'm wondering short of moving the older library over from the 2.2.16 system and allowing them to run with it - is there a best practices type of solution to this problem? It ought to just work. The C++ ABI changes now

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Phil Payne
I for one hope they get what they really deserve and it to be a corner movement to nail anyone else that tries this again..and maybe bleed over to other dumb case like suing MacDonald's for hot coffee .. I can't get the following URL not to fold - I'm afraid you'll have to rebuild it. From

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Wells
Well here we go---debate not even going to go there and yes I have seen/read the doc..still hold to my statement...

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Chris Cox
Phil Payne wrote: I for one hope they get what they really deserve and it to be a corner movement to nail anyone else that tries this again..and maybe bleed over to other dumb case like suing MacDonald's for hot coffee .. I can't get the following URL not to fold - I'm afraid you'll have to

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Wells
Hey---cool---maybe I 'll try that and retire

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Beinert, William
And it's McDonald's fault she's stupid enough to put hot coffee in her crotch... maybe all that junk food lowered her IQ, and she should sue for that too... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Cox Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:30 PM To:

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread McKown, John
Yea, I gotta find somebody with deep pockets and no brains to sue. I figure that about $2 Million US net and I'm good for the rest of my life. I'm 51 and at $100,000/year (more that I now make!) it would take me 20 years to spend the money. That's assume that I'm stupid enough to not invest it in

Re: HP Openview Operations (OVO) - no agent for Linux 390

2004-01-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Have you all asked them for an agent? I probably will have to do it via VM and it's automation - it's just one more thing that the distributed crowd can say see what the mainframe doesn't have!. Marcy Cortes Wells Fargo Services Company -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Wells
Good point lower IQ because of bad nutrition Ummm not a bad idea

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Wells
cool---when ya find someone let me know---I'm 57 and ready to get out .

PLEASE don't discuss McD/coffee! Was: Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Henry Schaffer
And it's McDonald's fault she's stupid enough ... I've seen this same topic discussed in many mailing lists and news.groups. It almost always just pits two camps against each other: 1)Those who feel that the plaintif shouldn't be compensated for stupidity 2)Those who feel that the plaintif

Re: PLEASE don't discuss McD/coffee! Was: Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Ryan Ware
Yes. No need to discuss when we can participate in one of our regularly scheduled holy wars such as best text editor, language, etc. -Original Message- From: Henry Schaffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PLEASE don't

IFL and Coupling Facility

2004-01-26 Thread Davis, Larry
I am currently on a z-800-0A1 Processor with 1 IFL. I setup my Reset Profile with a Production and TEST LPAR on the S390 engine and a TUX LPAR on the IFL engine. Now the Problem: I initially defined the processor to be a Shared Coupling Facility, on the Processor tab rather that a Shared

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Knutson, Sam
Use TinyURL http://tinyurl.com/ -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Payne I can't get the following URL not to fold - I'm afraid you'll have to rebuild it. === This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended

Re: Pros and Cons to sharing /usr

2004-01-26 Thread Richard Troth
Eric ... several thoughts ... DML supports either producing a copy that shares or does not share. Another good candidate for sharing is /opt. Sharing /usr is something Sun did for years before Linux arrived. Their use of shared /usr is one argument I put forward in favor of shared /usr. The

Re: HP Openview Operations (OVO) - no agent for Linux 390

2004-01-26 Thread Post, Mark K
Given that HP's marketing is that Linux/390 doesn't make sense, it's probably doubtful that HP will provide an agent for the platform. Still, it certainly can't hurt to ask, and if enough people ask, the HP software folks might not care that the hardware folks don't like it. Mark Post

RE : adding DASD in SuSE8

2004-01-26 Thread Ken Vance
Hi, Thanks for all of the replies. The -d ldl option of the dasdfmt did the trick. Thanks, Ken Vance Amadeus

Re: Weird OSA issue...anyone else???

2004-01-26 Thread Lucius, Leland
You need to figure out if the cards are responding to ARPs or not. I realize that you used qetharp, but that tells you what OSA has loaded into its own ARP cache, not whether it is responding to ARPs. Use OSA/SF or the HMC to look at IP addresses loaded into the cards (which is not the

Windows? Blue Screen?

2004-01-26 Thread Ranga Nathan
News: Spirit's Troubled Memory First Mars rover went into cycle of reboots after memory failure.

Re: SCO sues Novell

2004-01-26 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: Re: SCO sues Novell During discovery, McDonald's produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some

Re: Windows? Blue Screen?

2004-01-26 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine Yes but the problem that he's experiencing isn't that kind of problem. He was experiencing something along the lines of a single event upset problem. It caused a good sized glitch or outright bug to be present. Right now the group at JPL are busy preparing to