Re: Oracle virtual memory sizes

2005-02-04 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:31:07 -0600, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (At that point, CP can do I/O above the 31 bit line. Native Linux on LPAR, already can do I/O above the 31 bit line.) Just to add to the confusion... CP can do I/O above the line already, the problem is with the *user*

DB2/VM to DB2/Linux Migration

2005-02-04 Thread José Raúl Barón Rodriguez
Hi to everyone ! I have currently installed: - z/VM 4.4 - SLES8 under z/VM 4.4 - DB2/ESE 8.2 under SLES8 under z/VM 4.4 Now our next goal is to migrate our current DB2/VM 7.1 into the DB2 ESE 8.2 under SLES8 but the main problem I have is that I can't find any migration guide or any guidelines

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/04/2005 at 11:27 ZE7, Andri W Sundara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have comparison between Linux and Unix ? Mr. Thornton's cough syrup-induced remarks aside, Unix is a brand name conferred upon a variety of POSIX-oriented operating systems, indicative of a common

Re: Oracle virtual memory sizes

2005-02-04 Thread Mrohs, Ray
Our Oracle 9i databases run well in 350M SLES8. Actually they do alright with 256M, but 350 is required to apply some Oracle patches, so we leave it at that. Four 200K block v-disks are assigned to each instance. The total SGA sizes vary between 110M and 225M, which according to our DBA's

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Linux refers to a specific implementation of a POSIX-oriented operating system According to Richard Stallman, Linux refers to a kernel. It is GNU/Linux that refers to an operating system and at least the Debian folks honor that (from www.debian.org: Debian uses the Linux kernel, but most of the

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Robin Murray
Alan Altmark wrote: [snip] To splitters of hairs: Yes, z/OS has a Unix-branded API and shell available, but I you can't call z/OS Unix. [snip] i don't see why unix systems services on z/os can't be called unix. it has all the standard services of any other unix that i know of (albeit from my

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 02/04/2005 at 10:17 AST, Robin Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see why unix systems services on z/os can't be called unix. it has all the standard services of any other unix that i know of (albeit from my very limited experience). it has ftp, web server(s), telnet, dns,

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 4, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: On the surface, many would claim that there is no difference (Adam's point) Actually, my point was that the question was so broad there was no way it could be meaningfully addressed without further clarification regarding the specific nature of the

Re: Oracle virtual memory sizes

2005-02-04 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:23:20 -0500, Mrohs, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our Oracle 9i databases run well in 350M SLES8. Actually they do alright with 256M, but 350 is required to apply some Oracle patches, so we leave it at that. Four 200K block v-disks are assigned to each instance. The

Re: DB2/VM to DB2/Linux Migration

2005-02-04 Thread Graeme St.Clair
Go to http://www.idugdb2-l.org/ and follow the instructions to subscribe. That list deals with your kind of question all the time, and there are some very knowledgeable people on it (of whom I am not one...).. Rgds, GStC. - Original Message - From: Josi Razl Barsn Rodriguez [EMAIL

Re: Oracle virtual memory sizes

2005-02-04 Thread Tom Duerbusch
To put something else into the discussion We are planning to migrate Oracle from some WinTel dedicated platforms to z/Linux (yes 64 bit also). My stance is with dedicated platforms, the memory allocation was simple. Total memory on box - memory needed for the OS - memory needed for Oracle =

Re: Experiences with Oracle 10g Database on Linux for zSeries

2005-02-04 Thread Harris, Christopher
I know Oracle 10g isn't certified for use on SLES 9 (64bit), but I thought I might try and install it. Has anybody managed to do this ? Or would I just be wasting my time ? As our zLinux install is relatively new we went straight on to SLES 9, I am loathe to install SLES 8 in another LPAR just so

Re: Experiences with Oracle 10g Database on Linux for zSeries

2005-02-04 Thread Little, Chris
If you can wait just a little while, it will be certified. The next pathset, if I'm not mistaken, will have SLES9 certification. And while you're at it, it doesn't hurt to try. -Original Message- From: Harris, Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:19 AM

Re: Experiences with Oracle 10g Database on Linux for zSeries

2005-02-04 Thread Seader, Cameron
I am hearing that i will be end of 1st quarter for certification on that. i am installing anyways. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:29 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: z/VM 5.1 DDR options

2005-02-04 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
We were in the same situation. We trashed the tapes and reordered z/VM Version 5.1 on DVD. We then installed z/VM using the DVD drive in the HMC. This was our first exposure with z/VM and it worked without a hitch. Peter -- For

Re: OT - Unidata

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Elliott
One of the options we're looking at in the future is moving to a RS-6000 running Linux -- using an IBM Unidata solution . Does anyone have any experience with Unidata (good, bad or ugly)? I've never heard of it. Is anyone aware of another list that addresses Unidata database? Kim:

Re: z/VM 5.1 DDR options

2005-02-04 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Thanks Alan, I was expecting that reply. On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 00:18 -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: On Thursday, 02/03/2005 at 06:02 PST, Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received my 5.1 order. Installation requires access to 18 track tape (3480) and a Standalone IPL of the

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Richard Hitt
Of course, UTS Global (a spin-off of Amdahl) has for years offered the Amdahl UTS operating system, which runs only on mainframes and is a full SVR4 ASCII Unix operating system. Dick Hitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Altmark wrote: On Friday, 02/04/2005 at 11:27 ZE7, Andri W Sundara [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Dick Holic
Hello, Actually, there IS a commercially viable mainframe implementation of Unix. UTS Global was spun-off from Amdahl Corp. a few years ago, and we continue to provide (and support) an SVR4 implementation that was ported - and optimized - to run on XA/ESA/S390/zSeries processors. Our customer

VM install questions (More )

2005-02-04 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
So the CD version of the 3390 DDr install arrived at my datacenter this morning. Loaded the CD into the HMC DVD drive and tried an IPL from CD/Rom or Server. HMC returns unable to read CD or find software. Can I only use the DVD install version on the HMC ? HMC in question is at 1.7.3 (without

Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-04 Thread Ranga Nathan
Please make it friendlier. At least a bash shell to start with. Thanks __ Ranga Nathan / CSG Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 Dick Holic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: VM install questions (More )

2005-02-04 Thread Ranga Nathan
Jerry: The CD for z/VM is meant for the unit that emulates tape. You need the DVD media. The same thing happened to us. We do not have that kind of CD drive. We only have DVD drive. We ordered the DVD media and that worked fine. We assume that CD media should work on DVD. But the CD media that

Re: z/VM 5.1 DDR options

2005-02-04 Thread Ranga Nathan
Jerry: I replied to your later mail. However, here is some more info. If you could gen a tape drive for your z/VM LPAR and your operations are willing to manually mount/dismount tape, then you could IPL from the tape drive. Our Operations refused to consider this option.

VM install questions (More )

2005-02-04 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
So the CD version of the 3390 DDr install arrived at my datacenter this morning. Loaded the CD into the HMC DVD drive and tried an IPL from CD/Rom or Server. HMC returns unable to read CD or find software. Can I only use the DVD install version on the HMC ? HMC in question is at 1.7.3 (without