Re: Universal Binaries on Linux?

2009-10-26 Thread David Boyes
On 10/25/09 11:47 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: Does such an effort distract from LSB? It's orthogonal to it, but separate. LSB details where such an animal would live, the universal binary idea is what you're delivering. I think that universal binaries would simplify things (cf all

ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread McKown, John
This is a scary article. I don't have a Linux on z system to test it out on. http://www.catonmat.net/blog/ldd-arbitrary-code-execution/ -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Post
On 10/26/2009 at 11:46 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: This is a scary article. I don't have a Linux on z system to test it out on. Even if you did, it wouldn't help. Looks like uClibc doesn't know about s390[x] as a build target. I'm not going to spend the time

SLES11 startup messages

2009-10-26 Thread Bernie Wu
Hi List, In my /var/log/messages I see the following: Oct 26 10:10:23 linux11 rchal: CPU frequency scaling is not supported by your processor. Oct 26 10:10:23 linux11 rchal: boot with 'CPUFREQ=no' in to avoid this warning. Oct 26 10:10:23 linux11 rchal: Cannot load cpufreq governors - No cpufreq

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Jack Woehr
McKown, John wrote: This is a scary article. I don't have a Linux on z system to test it out on. http://www.catonmat.net/blog/ldd-arbitrary-code-execution/ Oh, jeez, guys. This is a kid's trick. The victim has to be stupid enough to execute ldd against a binary in the scamming user's

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Jack Woehr
Also if you are now shying away from running ldd, just make sure the binary is of type ELF and you are safe, the examination not the execution will take place. To make sure something you are about to ldd is ELF, just do this sort of thing: $ od -c /usr/bin/grep | head -1 000 177 E L

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jack Woehr wrote: ? Keep users who would do such things out of shell access. Let 'em use the web interface you provide them instead, it's safer that way. What he says. This boils down to niener niener - you think you aren't executing my code

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Jack Woehr Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:06 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse McKown, John wrote: This is a

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Jack Woehr
McKown, John wrote: Problem is, I've known such. And, to be brutally honest, I could have been caught myself simply due to ignorance about how/what ldd works. Of course. Everyone does once. Some how the Unix world survives. Like you guys somehow survived with your indescribably lame

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Jack Woehr
McKown, John wrote: Problem is, I've known such. And, to be brutally honest, I could have been caught myself simply due to ignorance about how/what ldd works. There are more subtle attacks on Linux integrity. In any case, chmod 700 ldd if ldd is too powerful w/r/t the

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Jack Woehr Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:38 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse snip Yes. They could. Which is why

Re: SLES11 startup messages

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Post
On 10/26/2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com wrote: -snip- I modified my zipl.conf and added CPUFREQ=no after vmpoff=LOGOFF vmhalt=LOGOFF, ran zipl -V and rebooted. No change. I'm still getting the messages. This worked fine for me. Did you make sure to add it to all the

Filemaker 10 on system Z Linux

2009-10-26 Thread Shockley, Gerard C
Anyone running Filemaker on LoZ? New requests to centrally host. In addition Are there any new developments in serving windows (yes I'm serious) on LoZ within a guest. Feedback is appreciated. Gerard C. Shockley Boston University gsh...@bu.edu mailto:gsh...@bu.edu 617.353.9898 (w)

OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Craig Collins
We are just starting to use OSA-Express3 10 Gb ports for SLES10-SP2 Linux guests. We're trying to use these with TSM servers running on SLES10 to backup other non-zSeries servers in our environment. We are using the 10 Gb OSAs connected to VSWITCHes in zVM 5.4. Currently we have only one SLES10

Re: Filemaker 10 on system Z Linux

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Post
On 10/26/2009 at 1:54 PM, Shockley, Gerard C gsh...@bu.edu wrote: Anyone running Filemaker on LoZ? I don't see how they would be, since it's Intel-AMD/PPC only and no source code is available. In addition Are there any new developments in serving windows (yes I'm serious) on LoZ within

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
Craig, In another SHARE session, I seem to remember that if you need to have very communications high throughput then you do not want to use VSWITCHes. Instead you want to dedicate a connection to the OSA adapter. (I am unable at the moment to find that presentation.) However, in Mario Held's

Re: Filemaker 10 on system Z Linux

2009-10-26 Thread Dennis Andrews
It doesn't run on Z, just Windows and OS X. Shockley, Gerard C wrote: Anyone running Filemaker on LoZ? New requests to centrally host. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Harder, Pieter
Hi Craig and Ron, I am the customer that Rob's case study was based on. I had the exact same problem (with 1 GbE OSA's) that you are having. Your problem is indeed the VSWITCH. Kick it and use native bonding in Linux. If you need more than one guest, buy more OSA's, they are way cheaper than

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Sterling James
From Craig Collins grizl...@gmail.com We wondered if a nic setting in SLES10 could be keeping the connection from getting above the 1 Gb/s mark, We don't have a OSA-Express3 10 Gb, but what are you driving that file transfer with? ftp? iperf? One thread? Have you look at the cpu cosumption that

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Sterling James
Hi Pieter, Do you have any numbers to compare vswitch vs native? OSA throughput, and cpu? Thanks - Please consider the environment before printing this email and any attachments. This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or

Re: Universal Binaries on Linux?

2009-10-26 Thread Kirk Wolf
LSB is much more than standard file system layouts. It allows you to build a common binary package (for a given processory architecture) that can be installed on any LSB-compliant distro (with that processor architecture). This is accomplished by building and linking your binary with import

Re: ldd arbitrary code execution - good coders code, great reuse

2009-10-26 Thread Ivan Warren
Mark Post wrote: On 10/26/2009 at 11:46 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: This is a scary article. I don't have a Linux on z system to test it out on. Even if you did, it wouldn't help. Looks like uClibc doesn't know about s390[x] as a build target. I'm not going to

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Harder, Pieter
For the finer points of performance measurement I defer to Rob. This is a highlevel coarse view: With a VSWITCH with LACP involved and using two full IFL's with 4 OSA GbE I could barely exceed 100 MB/s with no other activity at all. With the same 2 IFL's and 4 OSA dedicated and bonded within

FW: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Harder, Pieter
Might be of public interest... Hi Craig, Using SLES10 SP2 in /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0c00: STARTMODE=auto MODULE=qeth MODULE_OPTIONS= MODULE_UNLOAD=yes SCRIPTUP=hwup-ccw SCRIPTUP_ccw=hwup-ccw SCRIPTUP_ccwgroup=hwup-qeth SCRIPTDOWN=hwdown-ccw CCW_CHAN_IDS=0.0.0c00 0.0.0c01

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
Craig, Pieter gave you the information on how to bond multiple OSA adapters together. He did not cover the user direct entries. You will need some dedicate statements in your directory. Lets say that your Linux guest is looking for the vswitch at 0.0.0600 0.0.0601 0.0.0602, and your OSA

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 10/26/2009 at 05:10 EDT, Ron Foster at Baldor-IS rfos...@baldor.com wrote: The other wild card is z/VM 6.1. According to Reed Mullen's SHARE presentation, is that it contains changes to enhance z/VM's virtual networking. I don't know by how much. At SHARE, Bill Bitner said that

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Craig Collins
The other thing we will need to do is set the vlanid since we wont be doing that through the vswitch as we have been up until now. We found the command to do that against the nic definition, which is what I am guessing we will need to do after everything is setup with the bonding. Thanks for the

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 10/26/2009 at 04:21 EDT, Harder, Pieter pieter.har...@brabantwater.nl wrote: For the finer points of performance measurement I defer to Rob. This is a highlevel coarse view: With a VSWITCH with LACP involved and using two full IFL's with 4 OSA GbE I could barely exceed 100 MB/s with

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread David Boyes
Also keep in mind that the TSM window size and buffer size will have a significant impact on throughput. For a 10G interface, larger is better for both. A sadly realistic checkpoint, though: You are unlikely to EVER get an appreciable percentage of wire speed out of the 10G interfaces using TSM

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Harder, Pieter
Do you have statistics for packets on each interface in the port group? When I had the VSWITCH setup I was looking closely into this. While not perfectly balanced due to our client distribution, there was reasonable traffic going on on all interfaces. And it was the processor power available.

Re: OSA-Express3 10 Gb, Vswitch, and SLES10 Linux Throughput

2009-10-26 Thread Harder, Pieter
A sadly realistic checkpoint, though: You are unlikely to EVER get an appreciable percentage of wire speed out of the 10G interfaces using TSM no matter what you do; the protocol is half duplex in a lot of places which kills the interface data pipelining. If you can get it to exceed 15-20% of