Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-13 Thread Erik N Johnson
It is, however, conceivable that whatever naming convention you use for your linux hosts may indeed be regularly expressed in its entirety and without spurious matches. If absolutely necessary you could always add an additional step to your pipe: ... | grep some regex capturing all potential

Re: Download directly to z/Linux server ?

2009-07-29 Thread Erik N Johnson
absolutely nothing wrong with the X forwarding approach either, use ssh -X from a UNIX or Linux host, or in putty's session config screen (the one that opens when you run the program, which you can also get back to later although I think the session has to be initiated with this turned on) go to:

Re: OT (was Re: RHEL 5.4 Beta is out in the wild)

2009-07-06 Thread Erik N Johnson
I would think the F word is most likely quite old indeed. And it is worth noting that in the UK and I believe Australia the word rutting is used to mean the same activity with which most English speakers commonly associate the F word. Moreover, the German 'ficken' which has precisely this

Re: Tumbleweed FTP

2009-06-30 Thread Erik N Johnson
Sounds very rude for a phone support individual. I would have asked for his manager. :-) Erik Johnson On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Phil Tullytull...@optonline.net wrote: Thank You for all the responses.   This is the expected answer I asked the question simply because a customer has tied

Re: In an LPAR once again?

2009-05-24 Thread Erik N Johnson
Dave, I would encourage you to contact some folks at NIU about PeopleSoft. We recently migrated from our own in-house solution which we called webconnect to peoplesoft, mostly to facilitate the surplussing of our ESA/390s and it has been ghastly. We have ended up with scores of students forced

Re: In an LPAR once again?

2009-05-16 Thread Erik N Johnson
It is worth noting that IBM has an established program called IBM Academic Initiatives. If you offer any courses on your Zs and you *need* z/VM to offer those courses, IBM will *possibly* negotiate a free license of z/VM. I'm at NIU and we have two ESA/390s donated by IBM many years before my

Re: In an LPAR once again?

2009-05-16 Thread Erik N Johnson
:52 PM, Erik N Johnson e...@uptownmilitia.com wrote: It is worth noting that IBM has an established program called IBM Academic Initiatives.  If you offer any courses on your Zs and you *need* z/VM to offer those courses, IBM will *possibly* negotiate a free license of z/VM.  I'm at NIU and we

Re: Zlinux proc use Vs Linux under other platforms

2009-05-05 Thread Erik N Johnson
The real strengths of the z platform are in I/O throughput and virtualization. Therefor, as a general rule of thumb, if your workloads are heavily I/O bound or heavy on virtualization, you will probably benefit from zLinux vs some other flavor of Linux on commodity hardware. If you were planning

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-04-02 Thread Erik N Johnson
Can you link documentation on DIAG2A8 and DIAG250? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-04-02 Thread Erik N Johnson
thanks very much! On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thursday, 04/02/2009 at 09:25 EDT, Erik N Johnson e...@uptownmilitia.com wrote: Can you link documentation on DIAG2A8 and DIAG250? Both are in the CP Programming Services book, part of the z/VM

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-04-02 Thread Erik N Johnson
This has especial benefits visa-vi code re-usability. In fact, this is exactly the design philosophy behind the everything's-a-file model in UNIX-type operating systems. Of course, that metaphor has been broken since the advent of the socket, but since then several methods of extending the file

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-04-01 Thread Erik N Johnson
It is rather curious that IBM is being so territorial in this regard. It would be extraordinarily difficult to break into the system Z clone market, I would think. People are, I get the impression, largely stuck with IBM unless they completely change the way in which they operate their mainframe.

Re: Stopping java based applications

2009-03-31 Thread Erik N Johnson
I tend to agree that sudo is a much better way of accomplishing this, you can embed sudo in scripts as long as the script is called interactively. Thus it would be very simple to get some info about the process in question (specifically uid) from either the ps command or the /proc directory

Re: Stopping java based applications

2009-03-31 Thread Erik N Johnson
This is generally considered highly insecure. The usual caveat about running userland apps as root. In fact, the generally accepted practice amongst most Linux admins is: ALWAYS issue administrative commands using sudo. NEVER log in remotely as root. ONLY log in as root w/ physical access, and

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-30 Thread Erik N Johnson
You are quite right John there are problems with the CDDL. The biggest problems are two in number. The first is that after releasing your code under the CDDL another user of the software may choose to distribute a binary version of a derivative work containing the source YOU wrote under a

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-28 Thread Erik N Johnson
For the record, it has been pointed out to me that Dtrace is not actually white-space-significant. So there you have it. I still feel that white-space-significant languages are garbage, just don't want to spread any FUD. Erik Johnson On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:36 PM, David Boyes

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-27 Thread Erik N Johnson
In an attempt to bring things back on topic for Scott, and everybody else who is supposed to keep e-mail work related (sorry guys!) I would like to point out a major feature of Linux that people seem to remain unaware of. In Linux you can get virtually any piece of kernel information from the vfs

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-27 Thread Erik N Johnson
expand on your idea here a bit more? What's a Linux NOC? Thanks. Erik N Johnson wrote: In an attempt to bring things back on topic for Scott, and everybody else who is supposed to keep e-mail work related (sorry guys!) I would like to point out a major feature of Linux that people seem

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-27 Thread Erik N Johnson
the file permissions.) So technically it does allow you to do a small amount of administration. Erik On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Erik N Johnson e...@uptownmilitia.com wrote: In this case NOC stands for Network Operations Center, and calling it that might be a BIT misleading, because you

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-25 Thread Erik N Johnson
Debian doesn't exist to provide a commercial operating system. Debian has only one purpose, to provide a fully free operating system, which is why no other GNU/Linux distribution has such a strong relationship with the FSF or the GNU project. Complaining that Debian does waht it is their mission

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-25 Thread Erik N Johnson
Of course. Debian is only practical in the real world for a handful of things. But there is nobody in all of GNU/Linux who doesn't benefit from the work done by these people. The majority of kernel code comes from paid developers it's true, but the Debian project submits plenty of patches. The

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-25 Thread Erik N Johnson
Which is why they, and many other large corporations have PR departments. They understand how 'the perception of' goodwill towards man affects their sales AND stock. Erik Johnson On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:26 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: On 3/25/09 3:43 PM, Mark Post

Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?

2009-03-24 Thread Erik N Johnson
You are quite right that they have made their choice, but, as I say, it is immaterial which path they choose. M$ Office cannot continue to dominate that market when there are serious, inter-operable products available with a totally Free license at no cost. Especially with everybody looking to

Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?

2009-03-23 Thread Erik N Johnson
It is very true, however, that you can run several LPARs with Linux/390 on them. Also, MVS is available for free nowadays, as well as several other major components that run on the pre-Z 360-derivatives. So although you won't be able to teach your kids VM you CAN show them what IBM big iron can

Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?

2009-03-23 Thread Erik N Johnson
the licenses for the Oracle software. Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Erik N Johnson
Could Xen run on z/Linux? I don't see why not. But to be completely honest, a mainframe is a strange place to run Windows. I mean... you could go and buy an 8086 and run Andy Tananbaum's Minix 3, and that would make a LOT more sense to me, at least you can learn something about operating

Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?

2009-03-23 Thread Erik N Johnson
This is totally amazing to me: There is z/Linux and not z/BSD because way back at the dawn of time there was a lawsuit involving 4.4BSD and so GNU/Linux became the flagship open source operating system (when Linux came out it was a toy, and BSD was a serious software product.) Now, despite the

Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-23 Thread Erik N Johnson
Lately I've been reading a lot about the speculation regarding IBM taking Sun over. As a graduate of an IBM preferred University whose curriculum had IBM mainframes at its core, and a java developer, I have a big interest in what might happen here. What I'm really interested in, though, is the

Re: smbfs mount ?

2009-03-18 Thread Erik N Johnson
I'm confused by this thread. Is there a special behaviour of fstab specific to z/Linux? On every other UNIX or UNIX-clone system I have ever used including Linux on the x86 and powerpc platforms, the two integer values at the end of an fstab config line have nothing whatever to do with automatic

Re: smbfs mount ?

2009-03-18 Thread Erik N Johnson
So again, to clarify, two questions: 1. The checkpass value (field 6) has no bearing on whether a given volume will be automatically mounted and determines only the order in which fsck will examine the volume (if at all.) Is this correct? 2. The ONLY way to specify that a given fstab entry should

Re: Please,

2009-03-15 Thread Erik N Johnson
I might add that this list is extraordinarily tolerant of a variety of things. Especially by comparison to MANY other GNU/Linux oriented mailing lists! This seems to me a very small thing to ask, and it really does make a difference. For people who subscribe to several of these types of lists,

Re: Which user env. variable tell me that it is in su - mode ?

2009-03-03 Thread Erik N Johnson
Clearly, you want behaviour OTHER than what normally happens when users call su -. I would recommend writing a small alias or script to let people issue INSTEAD of su - when you want this functionality. You may want to examine the funtionality of env, a command which allows you to create a clean

Re: neat? bash stuff that I didn't know.

2009-03-01 Thread Erik N Johnson
Alas, I assumed that the functionality would mirror the original design from whence it was stolen. In Plan 9 any program can access the tcp/ip stack or any other networking protocol in just exactly that way. Of course, Plan 9 is extraordinarily different under the hood, so it's very easy to do

Re: neat? bash stuff that I didn't know.

2009-03-01 Thread Erik N Johnson
OH YEAH! With 9p it is theoretically possible to make this work across networks, since 9p can expose ANY file, including the FIFOs that processes listen to plumbing messages on. This is exactly how Plan 9 works. Erik Johnson On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Erik N Johnson e

Re: neat? bash stuff that I didn't know.

2009-02-27 Thread Erik N Johnson
To get data back from a network daemon using this technique is quite trivial, if you are using an X windows desktop. Simply open up two xterms. xterm 1: # tee rx.log /dev/tcp/host/port xterm 2: # echo arbitrary message| tee tx.log /dev/tcp/host/port Send whatever you want to your remote host,

Re: automatic email?

2009-02-24 Thread Erik N Johnson
John, If you're very concerned about the footprint of a proper MTA on your host check out qmail. But generally I agree with Malcolm, you would be well advised to run an MTA. There's also no sense reinventing the wheel. There are three very good, pretty modern totally free and open MTAs

Re: Root Password

2009-02-24 Thread Erik N Johnson
John, Does it make any difference at all whether I can easily gain control of a Windows box with physical access? Since I can VERY easily gain control of most Windows boxes over any old network they happen to be connected to? I contend that physical security is a MUCH simpler problem to solve

Re: Grep and UTF-8.....

2009-02-12 Thread Erik N Johnson
After they were done working on UNIX, the various brilliant folks at ATT wrote the successor to UNIX called Plan 9 From Bell Labs. It's much better in most respects but it never got any industry adoption, due mostl to the fact that by that point all the big players had gotten their fill of

Re: Philosophical question...

2009-02-04 Thread Erik N Johnson
Especially if you happen to be on the z platform and running a major commercial distribution, such as it sounds like in Mr. Boyes's case, I tend to agree with you Pieter. It is true hat open source package APIs can become moving targets on th whim of the respective project lead, but Redhat and

Re: Philosophical question...

2009-02-03 Thread Erik N Johnson
If you are having this problem it may be possible to isolate the particular application and, more importantly, the component which is giving you problems, in a special directory like /opt/essential package name which MAY fix the problem since the aplications which are generating errors will

Re: bash shell question

2009-01-09 Thread Erik N Johnson
efficiently. So I agree, this probably ought to be brought to the attention of the package maintainers. Anybody know who that would be? Erik Johnson On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Larry Ploetz la...@stanford.edu wrote: On 1/8/09 12:21 PM, Erik N Johnson wrote: Does this failure to behave as one might

Re: bash question.

2009-01-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Thus, if you want the behaviour you described in the above command, you could do the following: command parms 21 | cat file.tmp which would put everything in the file file.tmp Erik Johnson On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Edmund R. MacKenty ed.macke...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: On Thursday 08

Re: bash shell question

2009-01-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Does this failure to behave as one might hope perhaps constitute a bug in a widely used admin utility? Erik Johnson On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Larry Ploetz la...@stanford.edu wrote: On 1/7/09 1:44 PM, John Summerfield wrote: I see no reason logrotate should not handle sparse files well

Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo

2008-09-29 Thread Erik N Johnson
-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU On 9/26/2008 at 8:32 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Upon realization of that fact, further argument on the point would seem pedantic and obtuse

Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo

2008-09-26 Thread Erik N Johnson
: Shawn Wells wrote: Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So

Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo

2008-09-24 Thread Erik N Johnson
It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should

Re: Weird application freeze problem

2008-09-10 Thread Erik N Johnson
That doesn't make any sense. Based on what I know about 'process sleeping' and 'waking up' there are two possibilities for how this works. The first is, of course, busy polling. If that's how it works then the question is irrelevant since busy polling means useless work no matter what. Since I

Re: Weird application freeze problem

2008-09-10 Thread Erik N Johnson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:24 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Weird application freeze problem That doesn't make any sense. Based on what I know about 'process sleeping' and 'waking up' there are two possibilities for how

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Are people limited to 3270 hardware to solve this problem or could a 3270 emulator provide an acceptable solution? Just curious. Erik Johnson On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Romanowski, John (OFT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone else having problems reaching www.linuxvm.org today? try

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some documentation for IND$FILE? Erik Johnson On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had one of my flashes of insight (or is that insanity?). Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for when

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
license. So here goes nothing :-D On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's s3270 for 'scraping' which allows you to get the contents of a 3270 screen into a file. From there we could easily use awk to disect a text file and get needed information

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short, if not too terribly sweet. It's basically the old

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the website daver++ pointed out. Still looking on the x3270 page for the documentation of this functionality. May just download the code and figure it out. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Ahh, it's a menu option. In the file menu. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the website daver++ pointed out. Still looking on the x3270 page for the documentation of this functionality. May just

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Does anybody require UTF-8 support? On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh, it's a menu option. In the file menu. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the website

Re: vi alternative?

2008-08-04 Thread Erik N Johnson
Whoops, forgot. It's called ed. For editor, very UNIX Erik Johnson. On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a text editor. THE text editor, by some reckoning :-D (it was the very first unix text editor, vi's command mode: ex is modeled on this.) I

Re: Debian (was Reiser)

2008-07-15 Thread Erik N Johnson
There is also a port of rpm to debian. You can therefor install rpm packages on debian, allowing you to deploy commercial software which is available only in rpm format. And since both debian and redhat are in fact GNU/Linux and therefor CAN present exactly the same environment to applications

Re: Reiser

2008-07-14 Thread Erik N Johnson
Building a kernel is not a herculean task by any measure. It is completely automated and the configuration can easily be done graphically if you have an X11 server. You probably need to go looking for some literature before you try to boot up a machine as expensive as a z10 on a homebrew kernel,

Re: Reiser

2008-07-14 Thread Erik N Johnson
you would ever rein in the creative process. Programmers DO create things, after all. Erik Johnson On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:40 PM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Altmark wrote: On Monday, 07/14/2008 at 05:55 EDT, Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Building a kernel

Re: Reiser

2008-07-13 Thread Erik N Johnson
There are absolutely lots of problems with ReiserFS. It's best deployed on a home user's PC. The journaling is great if you lose power abruptly, but it's faster than some of the more mature journaling file systems. It doesn't really pose a serious threat to data integrity there because the most

Re: Reiser

2008-07-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
The reason to recommend reiser is performance, and in fact, ext2 gives much better performance. It just isn't journaled. As I said, you should certainly pick your filesystem based on your needs. In big business, data integrity is the name of the game, since clients hate it when you lose their

Re: Reiser

2008-07-07 Thread Erik N Johnson
Several years ago there was a dispute over the direction that the development of the XFree86 project should take. The plan was to make substantial changes to the licensing and distribution of the software. However, the bulk of the developers found that the proposed changes were neither