Re: [LAD] [Jackit-devel] Abstraction for JACK control API

2008-01-29 Thread Stéphane Letz
Le 29 janv. 08 à 06:11, Nedko Arnaudov a écrit : Stéphane Letz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could JackEngine here be renamed JackServer? I think It would correspond more to what engine and server are internally. Now that we are on this, please tell me what server and engine are internally,

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 10:42 +, Christian Schoenebeck wrote: Am Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 06:25:31 schrieben Sie: On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 03:16 +, Christian Schoenebeck wrote: So get it: there is NOT only one definition of the term open source when standing alone. Like with many

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Christian Schoenebeck
Am Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 06:25:31 schrieben Sie: On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 03:16 +, Christian Schoenebeck wrote: So get it: there is NOT only one definition of the term open source when standing alone. Like with many unspecific short terms, different people have different opinions of

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Robillard
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 14:00 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:25:31 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and it just so happens that this arbitrary definiton matches exactly your software which you wish to call 'open source' for PR reasons. virtually nobody

Re: [LAD] [OT] LinuxSampler and GPL - some clarifications

2008-01-29 Thread Krzysztof Foltman
Dave Robillard wrote: This is utterly false, and completely contrary to the entire purpose of Free Software, and the GPL. It's the very first 'freedom' (out of four) in the definition of Free Software, which was written by the same person as the GPL, for the same reasons. Okay. Now let me

Re: [LAD] Fwd: LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread alex stone
Paul, I'll be the first to admit i know little about Pulseaudio, and what it can do. And i mean no offence or dismissal of Alsa and it's role. So where will Pulse Audio take us in the future? Jack's been outstanding for me, and as a means of porting and moving audio, and i hope midi around, i've

Re: [LAD] LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer

2008-01-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 05:42:24PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: So we'd be better off with no definition of open source or free software at all? I didn't say that. But there is a problem with such a definition. When the words 'round table' are used to mean 'a meeting of all concerned parties,

[LAD] Linux Audio Conference 2008: Registration now open

2008-01-29 Thread LAC2008
Dear all, The Linux Audio Conference 2008 in Cologne (Feb 28th - Mar 2nd 2008) is just one month away now. The programme is shaping up, concerts are being organized and coffee is about to be ordered. To help us with planning the LAC2008 we kindly ask you to register now at the conference

Re: [LAD] Summercode 2008: LASH, pt. 2

2008-01-29 Thread Krzysztof Foltman
Dave Robillard wrote: I'm not sure if this is what Juuso meant, but Jack definitely needs something like a simple key/value metadata system for ports. I second that. Especially if some of the metadata could be user-assigned (via configuration or otherwise). Example use - to mark the MIDI

Re: [LAD] [OT] LinuxSampler and GPL - some clarifications

2008-01-29 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Sunday 27 January 2008 23:57:27 Marek wrote: What does that matter? You mean someone should pay me for this? I'll pay you to shut up about the GPL... Seriously, you don't appear to understand what you're talking about. You keep making the same nonsensical point over and over again. If

[LAD] Fwd: LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread alex stone
Hehe, succinctly put Christian. Just doing a quick count of all the lines that have been written about this, and the sometime belligerent enthusiasm attacking LS and questioning their integrity because they're perceived as not being 'pure' by interpretation, by some of you, and just since i've

Re: [LAD] Prototyping algorithms and ideas

2008-01-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:57:19PM -0500, Stephen Sinclair wrote: Also, nice in the fact that you can do per-sample computations easily, How ? I seem to have missed something... Because you can wait in a 1-sample loop? Yes, it will use your whole CPU for a loop like that, but this

Re: [LAD] Prototyping algorithms and ideas

2008-01-29 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! - a delay line, - allowing high-quality fractional-sample delays, - at least 12 outputs, for each two controls: delay, gain, - smooth 'crossfading' between two control sets, both delay and gain, controlled by a GUI or by OSC. It should not take more than 20% CPU on a 2G P4

Re: [LAD] Fwd: LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 15:44 +0300, alex stone wrote: To offer a counterweight to this, have all you craftsmen considered getting together in a concentrated team effort, free of politics, and indulge in an intense push to expand Jack and Jackdmp (for example) to incorporate kernel level

Re: [LAD] Fwd: LS licensing

2008-01-29 Thread Esben Stien
Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At this time, it doesn't offer what JACK offers (and it may never do that). There is the talk about moving jack into pulse;). -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread pete shorthose
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:41:39 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 14:00 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:25:31 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yours just coincidentally is shared by virtually nobody did you just

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Robillard
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 14:00 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:25:31 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yours just coincidentally is shared by virtually nobody did you just presume to speak for virtually everybody? I suppose it's also presumptuous to say that

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread pete shorthose
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:13:02 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 19:28 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:44:46 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 18:22 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan

Re: [LAD] Prototyping algorithms and ideas

2008-01-29 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: To run it, just paste the text below into the terminal snd-ls was started from. Or not. snd-ls hasn't the define-rt-vector-struct macro yet. To run it, start latest snd and then evaluate (load-from-path snd_conffile.scm) and after that the

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread pete shorthose
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:44:46 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 18:22 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:41:39 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 14:00 +, pete shorthose wrote: virtually

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Robillard
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 18:22 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:41:39 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 14:00 +, pete shorthose wrote: virtually nobody cares what you think. how's that? Virtually nobody even knows who you

Re: [LAD] [Jackit-devel] Abstraction for JACK control API

2008-01-29 Thread Nedko Arnaudov
I'm attaching the plain C variant of the API. Please comment if you find something that cannot be implemented in jack server code. It is not yet fully doxygenized but things should be obvious. /* -*- Mode: C ; c-basic-offset: 2 -*- */

Re: [LAD] Prototyping algorithms and ideas

2008-01-29 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
Fons Adriaensen: On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:57:19PM -0500, Stephen Sinclair wrote: Also, nice in the fact that you can do per-sample computations easily, How ? I seem to have missed something... Because you can wait in a 1-sample loop? Yes, it will use your whole CPU for a loop like

Re: [LAD] [Jackit-devel] Abstraction for JACK control API

2008-01-29 Thread Stéphane Letz
Le 29 janv. 08 à 19:42, Nedko Arnaudov a écrit : I'm attaching the plain C variant of the API. Please comment if you find something that cannot be implemented in jack server code. It is not yet fully doxygenized but things should be obvious. jackctl.h Seems ok for me. Having this

Re: [LAD] Prototyping algorithms and ideas

2008-01-29 Thread Yann Orlarey
Hi Fons, Here is a quick solution using Faust : import(filter.lib); line(i) = vgroup(line %i, *(g) : fdelay2(1024, d)) with { g = vslider(gain (dB), -60, -60, 4, 0.1) : db2linear : smooth(0.995); d = nentry(delay (samp), 0, 0, 1000, 0.1) : smooth(0.995); };

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Robillard
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 21:39 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:13:02 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 19:28 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:44:46 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue,

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 quot; isn't well thought out ?quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread pete shorthose
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:18:00 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 21:39 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:13:02 -0500 Dave Robillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 19:28 +, pete shorthose wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan

Re: [LAD] LS licensing (was: LV2 amp; quot; isn't well thought out ?amp; quot; LV2 in the Reaper sequencer)

2008-01-29 Thread t_w_
Gesendet: Mi 30 Jan 2008 03:25:17 CET Von: pete shorthose[EMAIL PROTECTED] i even said virtually no one welcomes drobilla when you joined #lad on freenode. it was TEH FUNNEZ! Ah, so that what was funny. But nothing from Dave or me was funny. So apparently you have humour, but we don't. Now