On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 07:08:51PM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
In the data structures on disk, it's 5. The kernel aliases 0 to
mean subvolid 5.
So why 5 and not just 0 which seems a logical choice? On top
that nesting subvolumes is generally more awkward to manage, and
that putting files in the top-level subvol can't do what most people
want to do with it. Hence the recommended subvol management layout at
[1].
Hugo.
[1] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/SysadminGuide#Subvolumes
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Any script which relies on being able to delete subvolumes in
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On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:02:31AM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
Is that correct: what btr sub list shows as top level is indeed the
parent subvolume?
No, it's the top-level subvolume. (See my earlier mail about
, and it should have been untouched, because it was marked as
dirty in the fs_info-pinned_extents tree, and therefore used by the
trees that the last committed superblock points to.
Wow. Nice one, Filipe.
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The parity computation on a single value is just nutty waste of time
though. Backing it out when the array is degraded is double-nuts.
Maybe everybody just decided it was too crazy to consider for the
CPU time penalty...?
So yea, semantics... apparently...
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System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=64.00KiB
Metadata, RAID1: total=1.00GiB, used=422.45MiB
unknown, single: total=144.00MiB, used=0.00
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device, and so on.
The minimum stripe width (e.g. number of devices) is 2 for RAID-0,
4 for RAID-10, 2 for RAID-5 and 3 for RAID-6.
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 03:25:19PM -0800, Robert White wrote:
On 12/12/2014 02:59 PM, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 02:54:24PM -0800, Robert White wrote:
I've seen it mentioned here that generally data extents are 1G and
metadata extents are 256M.
Is that per-drive or per-stripe
the latter carries almost as much problematic baggage
as the former.
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 09:44:43PM -0800, Robert White wrote:
On 12/16/2014 01:05 AM, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 07:47:06PM -0800, Robert White wrote:
I prefer slice, not that I am totally happy with that word either.
But by the time you get through loopback devices, memory map
Label: none uuid: 752ed11b-defc-4717-b4c9-a9e08ad64ba6
Total devices 1 FS bytes used 404.74GB
devid1 size 410.50GB used 410.50GB path /dev/md3
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, and checking your logs for SATA errors and similar
problems.
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drawbacks?
No drawbacks. I've used this method for testing purposes.
Obviously, you'll have to set up the loop devices to mount the FS, but
mkfs shouldn't have any problems.
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output here, or post to bugzilla.kernel.org
That's probably going to give enough information to the developers
to work out where the lockup is happening, and is clearly the way
forward here.
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or something equally dumb.
Userspace doesn't as far as I know, get to make that decision. I've
just read the fallocate(2) man page, and it says nothing at all about
the contiguity of the extent(s) storage allocated by the call.
Hugo.
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On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 01:28:46PM -0500, Zygo Blaxell wrote:
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 09:30:43AM +, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 10:01:17AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Am Freitag, 26. Dezember 2014, 14:48:38 schrieb Robert White:
On 12/26/2014 05:37 AM, Martin
losing two devices, though, even if the remaining
data is actually enough to reconstruct the FS.
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of the
failure modes beyond the guarantee.
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On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 01:00:05PM -0600, sys.syphus wrote:
oh, and sorry to bump myself. but is raid10 *ever* more redundant in
btrfs-speak than raid1? I currently use raid1
Unallocated: 2.38TiB
/dev/sdb4, ID: 2
Device size: 2.63TiB
Data,RAID1:252.00GiB
Metadata,RAID1: 3.00GiB
System,RAID1:8.00MiB
Unallocated: 2.38TiB
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well.
You want send/receive. It's in the mainline kernel, and you'll need
a recent userspace, but it allows you to transfer subvolumes cleanly
and losslessly between filesystems.
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on a btrfs volume without mounting the volume?
No. (Well, in theory the code is possible, but there's nothing I'm
aware of that will do it)
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btrfs-progs installation? (Any distribution package
with a date before the end of March 2012 is definitely ancient --
there's still some of them out there).
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was there before. This is unsurprising.
Hugo.
What works:
btrfs filesystem label /dev/sdb mylabel
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without mounting the FS first, everything
you've reported here is working as it should.
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fi show' for short.
Indeed. btrfs-show, btrfs-vol and btrfsctl have been deprecated for
quite some time (well over a year), and they're not well maintained.
Hugo.
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before zero'ing logs
[snip]
That information may also be helpful in conjunction with the
btrfs-image dump of a broken FS. I'm not sure how much help it is on
its own (but thanks for providing it anyway).
Hugo.
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information in your kernel logs.
I know you all recommend later kernels, I'm upgrading things as fast as I can.
Glad to hear it. :)
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, but as I understand
it, there's been some work in the kernel (swap over NFS) which lays
down some of the underlying infrastructure we'd need to support
swapfiles on btrfs, but we don't have anything beyond that. I don't
know of anyone working on it, either.
Hugo.
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the size of the underlying device.
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to be possible.
Is this correct, and the only way would be backup/mkfs with -l/restore?
Correct, you can't change the metadata block size once the FS has
been created.
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:00:41AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:41:55PM +, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 09:32:50AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
I made a mistake and copied data in the root of a new btrfs filesystem.
I created a subvolume, and used mv
which does the above automatically and includes a suitably-generated
version.h in the tarball.
Hugo.
and
mkfs.btrfs -V
mkfs.btrfs, part of Btrfs Btrfs v0.19
There must be a way to reliably just have one Btrfs and I will
look into it.
Gene
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Out of interest, how big are these devices?
Hugo.
[snip]
I booted again and did both the mk.btrfs and the mount manually and i
got the same error.
Is it a known issue?
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+ BTRFS_SEND_C_PUNCH,
BTRFS_SEND_C_TRUNCATE,
BTRFS_SEND_C_CHMOD,
BTRFS_SEND_C_CHOWN,
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 08:13:34PM +0800, Miao Xie wrote:
Onthu, 24 Jan 2013 11:58:13 +, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 07:39:17PM +0800, Miao Xie wrote:
On thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:53:17 +0200, Alex Lyakas wrote:
Hi Chen,
with all due respect, what do you mean by I see
| 5 +
dir-test.c| 5 +
find-root.c | 5 +
ioctl-test.c | 6 ++
mkfs.c| 5 +
quick-test.c | 6 ++
restore.c | 5 +
21 files changed, 109 insertions(+)
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/search?q=btrfs-show
http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=btrfs-vol
http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=btrfsctl
suggest that there's very little impact over the rest of the system as
well.
Hugo.
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inline in marc.info
=)
What mail client to do you use?
git send-email (for this kind of thing, anyway).
Hugo.
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--- What part
it runs out of space.
My hope would be overall performance between that of the two devices, and
closer to that of the SSD.
We don't have any kind of hot-data management yet, but it's on the
list of things we'd like to have at some point.
Hugo.
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;
- print_one_uuid(fs_devices);
+ print_one_uuid(fs_devices, rawbytes);
}
printf(%s\n, BTRFS_BUILD_VERSION);
return 0;
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Hi Hugo,
Thanks.
I was having some issues with my priviledges, and sorting them out has
worked.
Thanks a ton,
Atri
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 08:56:20PM +0530, Atri Sharma wrote:
Hi all,
I am
not *that* different.
Hugo.
I am running some tests for seeing the locking trends when mass
creation and deletion of files take place.
Thanks,
Atri
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:06:23PM +0530, Atri Sharma wrote:
Hi
help deal with the issue.
Hugo.
(*) Btrfs: rework the overcommit logic to be based on the total size
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Given that it can easily do more harm than good, it might not be the
best place for it..
Thanks,
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tell if it's ~1.64TB copied or 2.6TB.
Looks like /dev/sdi1 isn't actually being written to -- it should
be the same allocation as /dev/sde1.
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the block
device.
We had someone on IRC a day or two ago who had done exactly this.
They're not the only one -- I can recall seeing at least one other
person who managed to mkfs.btrfs on an existing filesystem.
Hugo.
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:05:39AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
Data, RAID1: total=2.66TB, used=2.66TB
This is the amount of actual useful data (i.e. what you see with du
or ls -l). Double this (because it's RAID-1
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 06:55:09PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 08:59:06PM +, Hugo Mills wrote:
Hi, Hemanth,
Here's a question -- what are you testing? (Not just here, but in
general, with your test infrastructure)
There are (at least) three
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? Or is there a more
simple approach?
Right now, yes, that's what you'll have to do. Note that the set of
snapshots won't be atomic, although each snapshot itself is atomic.
Recursive snapshots aren't implemented yet, but are on the list of
things to do.
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:44:06AM +0530, Hemanth Kumar wrote:
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
Here's a question -- what are you testing? (Not just here, but in
general, with your test infrastructure)
There are (at least) three classes of tests
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 02:15:52PM +, Mike Fleetwood wrote:
On 20 February 2013 13:05, Audrius Butkevicius
audrius.butkevic...@elastichosts.com wrote:
On 01/02/2013 10:30, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 09:59:49AM +, Audrius Butkevicius wrote:
Add '-b' and '--bytes
for not keeping up with them.
defrag, with my snapshots, would be a good reason for me...)
Hugo.
[1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:10:57AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
On 2/21/13 9:10 AM, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote:
Le 21/02/2013 16:01, Hugo Mills a écrit :
That's a success. The return code for defrag is broken, and for some
reason returns 20 on success.
Thanks for the quick reply Hugo. So
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 06:03:17PM +0100, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote:
Le 21/02/2013 17:38, Hugo Mills a écrit :
Plus, if something does go wrong with your FS, and you're running an
older kernel, you'll get limited amounts of sympathy, because quite a
lot of the problems people encounter
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 06:47:28PM +0100, Swâmi Petaramesh wrote:
Le 21/02/2013 18:25, Hugo Mills a écrit :
Correct. But btrfs isn't at that stage yet. It's getting visibly
closer, but it's not quite there. Hence the very strong recommendation
to keep up with the latest code. Hugo
(at which point, the modified blocks are no longer
shared).
Hugo.
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A parroty error
non-interoperable with
the default tools. This is probably enough to ensure that it'll get
fixed fairly quickly in this case (because the users that care about
the feature will complain it's not working right).
My conclusion: go with user xattrs.
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Hugo.
[1] https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Data_Structures
[2]
http://git.darksatanic.net/cgi/gitweb.cgi?p=btrfs-gui.git;a=blob;f=btrfsgui/btrfs.py;h=0941de1efeadb81576edf1c7c84da28805310a92;hb=aba25f9efe7bcdb99e8cfa38e703c4b0739c6af9
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, for example.
Hugo.
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are also accepted. It
also prints the newer formats by default in btrfs fi df, with an option to
show the older format for the traditionalists.
I'm not sure whether we should omit the 1C in btrfs fi df output, or
make it explicit even in the single case.
Hugo.
Hugo Mills (5):
Use nCmSpP
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cmds-filesystem.c | 135 -
1 file changed, 114 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
diff --git a/cmds-filesystem.c b/cmds-filesystem.c
index 2210020..8ecc21a 100644
--- a/cmds-filesystem.c
+++ b/cmds
Balance filters are the second location which takes user input of
replication levels. Update this to use the common parser so that we can
provide nCmSpP-style names.
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---
cmds-balance.c | 23 ---
1 file changed, 8 insertions
Teach mkfs.btrfs about nCmSpP format for replication levels, which avoids
the semantic uncertainty over the RAID-XYZ naming.
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mkfs.c | 91 +++-
1 file changed, 84 insertions(+), 7
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
man/btrfs.8.in |9 +
man/mkfs.btrfs.8.in | 24 +++-
2 files changed, 32 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/man/btrfs.8.in b/man/btrfs.8.in
index 94f4ffe..2799ec7 100644
--- a/man/btrfs.8.in
+++ b/man
On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 10:31:25PM +0100, Harald Glatt wrote:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:
Some time ago, and occasionally since, we've discussed altering the
RAID-n terminology to change it to an nCmSpP format, where n is the
number of copies, m
On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 02:25:25PM -0800, Roger Binns wrote:
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On 09/03/13 12:31, Hugo Mills wrote:
Some time ago, and occasionally since, we've discussed altering the
RAID-n terminology to change it to an nCmSpP format, where n is
the number
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 03:01:12PM +0100, Goffredo Baroncelli wrote:
Hi Hugo,
could you please add also to the btrfs man page a section where are
described the nCmSpP levels ?
Thanks.
GB
On 03/09/2013 09:31 PM, Hugo Mills wrote:
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:23:56PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Hugo,
Am Samstag, 9. März 2013 schrieb Hugo Mills:
Some time ago, and occasionally since, we've discussed altering the
RAID-n terminology to change it to an nCmSpP format, where n is the
number of copies, m
On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 09:41:50PM -0800, Roger Binns wrote:
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On 09/03/13 17:44, Hugo Mills wrote:
You've got at least three independent parameters to the system in order
to make that choice, though, and it's a fairly fuzzy decision problem
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 04:43:33PM +0100, Goffredo Baroncelli wrote:
Hi Hugo,
On 03/09/2013 09:31 PM, Hugo Mills wrote:
Some time ago, and occasionally since, we've discussed altering the
RAID-n terminology to change it to an nCmSpP format, where n is the
number of copies, m
, because it seems to be
easier to read with the different-height characters. So we end up
with, e.g.
1c (single)
2cXs(RAID-10)
1cXs2p (RAID-6)
Hugo.
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:55:10PM +, sam tygier wrote:
On 09/03/13 20:31, Hugo Mills wrote:
Some time ago, and occasionally since, we've discussed altering the
RAID-n terminology to change it to an nCmSpP format, where n is the
number of copies, m is the number of (data) devices
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
man/btrfs.8.in | 16
man/mkfs.btrfs.8.in | 24 +++-
2 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/man/btrfs.8.in b/man/btrfs.8.in
index 94f4ffe..4072510 100644
--- a/man/btrfs.8
Balance filters are the second location which takes user input of
replication levels. Update this to use the common parser so that we can
provide nCmSpP-style names.
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
cmds-balance.c | 23 ---
1 file changed, 8 insertions
Make parse_profile a shared function so it can be used across the
code-base.
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
mkfs.c | 94 ---
utils.c | 94 +++
utils.h
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
cmds-filesystem.c | 173 ++---
1 file changed, 152 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
diff --git a/cmds-filesystem.c b/cmds-filesystem.c
index 2210020..3150ff7 100644
--- a/cmds-filesystem.c
+++ b/cmds
Changed mS to Xs for readability
Added explain option to df
Switched option parsing for df to getopt_long
Hugo.
Hugo Mills (5):
Use NcMsPp format for mkfs
Move parse_profile to utils.c
Convert balance filter parser to use common NcMsPp replication-level
Teach mkfs.btrfs about ncmspp format for replication levels, which avoids
the semantic uncertainty over the RAID-XYZ naming.
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
mkfs.c | 91 +++-
1 file changed, 84 insertions(+), 7
From: Hugo Mills h.r.mi...@reading.ac.uk
btrfs-find-root isn't yet integrated into the main btrfs tool, and is
an important recovery tool, so it deserves to be built as a static
binary.
Signed-off-by: Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk
---
Makefile |6 +-
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1
, should the pass value in fstab be zero or
non-zero?
It should be zero. But since fsck.btrfs is non-existent, it does not
really matter I guess.
Eh? We've had a functional btrfsck for nearly a year.
Hugo.
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:42:13PM +, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Joseph Moore wrote:
I'm trying to compile the btrfs source code but I'm getting an error.
Any suggestions?
[snip]
You need libblkid-devel (or whatever your distribution calls
chunks. See the
section in the FAQ on the wiki about full filesystems. (Sorry for not
finding the link, I'm on a restricted connection right now)
Hugo.
Metadata: total=8.00MB, used=0.00
Any ideas what is going wrong here?
Thank you in advance, Clemens
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be happening...
So this is probably because of the extent tree corruption you had, it's just
cleaning things up and you should be fine once it finishes. Thanks,
Josef
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not particularly important to me in this configuration -- I
can just use 4096, but I thought it should be published).
Hugo.
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the half-light under the desk.
(*) 5 TB after RAID-1.
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