RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can not compare seriously quantity and quality of games on Windows and Linux. And this is major use of computer at the most family homes... :( Yes, you can. I play games whenever I get tired of doing useful stuff (resting

RE: Looking to grab 1MB of memory from an old {ISA,VLB,PCI}displ ay adapter.

2002-07-23 Thread Assaf Flatto
Title: RE: Looking to grab 1MB of memory from an old {ISA,VLB,PCI} display adapter. i have several Cirrus Logic 546x cards in my old junk stuff maybe one of those will be the thing you need . Contact me off list . Assaf -Original Message- From: Shaul Karl [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Michael Sternberg
Title: RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost Come on :) Walk to any Atid ha Mahshevim store and check how many game titles for Windows they have. Don't forget that every month there are ton of new games for M$ gets developed. And try to calculate in your mind how many games for Linux do you

Re: Less competition outside of MS-Windows (was: Re: Desktop Linux-- Linux lost)

2002-07-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 08:44, Omer Zak wrote: As for the 'Linux Lost' hugwash, I see where all my Windows-centric *programers* friends ended up working (if at all) and I see where I and other Linux people work and I know that *we* have won and will continue to win. All the rest is just

RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walk to any Atid ha Mahshevim store and check how many game titles for Windows they have. Why should I? When I want games I just apt-get install them Don't forget that every month there are ton of new games for M$ gets

Re: Less competition outside of MS-Windows (was: Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost)

2002-07-23 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the Desktop sillinies, some historical perspective is due. Somewhere around 1980 a couple of smart people in Xerox PARC and Apple computers realised that in order to get the mundanes to use computers they must make sure computers provide a

Re: Less competition outside of MS-Windows (was: Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost)

2002-07-23 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:49:56AM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the Desktop sillinies, some historical perspective is due. Somewhere around 1980 a couple of smart people in Xerox PARC and Apple computers realised that in order to get the

FYI: php vuln

2002-07-23 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I am no PHP expert, but this seems to be serious enough to post here. And in fact, if i am not mistaken, it looks like a good candidate for the next worm to make waves. so start patching or at least configure your php to restrict POSTS. http://www.php.net/release_4_2_2.php * - * - * Tzahi

Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers

2002-07-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers: On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 06:09, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: What they aren't right in, IMHO, is that such 13 y.o teenagers should get some life on their vacation instead of spending 18(sic!) hours a day at a

RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Eliran
On 23 Jul 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote: And try to calculate in your mind how many games for Linux do you remember. More than those I remember for Windows. I mean real games, not NetHack - full graphics, animations and sound. Nethack is a real game. You define real as game developed for

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 02:14:22PM +0300, Eliran wrote: Nethack is a console game (even though there is a GUI version) that uses the keyboard keys (not the arrows keys, A...Z keys) for moving and other operations. Compare Diablo and Nethack. I did. Nethack won. Did you have a point? ObIGLU:

RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Michael Sternberg
Just for curiosity: Let's suppose that NetHack was game developed by Micro$oft and Diabolo - by people from some OpenSource project. Will NetHack win then the above comparison ? -- -Original Message- -- From: Muli Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- On Tue, Jul 23, 2002

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I will iterate my view of his point: Games are judged by many factors, two of which are playability and game experience. Playability will be roughly defined here as how well does the game capture the player's attention, and how long can they keep his/her interest, focusing his/her attention

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Eliran
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 02:14:22PM +0300, Eliran wrote: Nethack is a console game (even though there is a GUI version) that uses the keyboard keys (not the arrows keys, A...Z keys) for moving and other operations. Compare Diablo and Nethack.

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Eliran
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I will iterate my view of his point: Games are judged by many factors, two of which are playability and game experience. Playability will be roughly defined here as how well does the game capture the player's attention, and how long can they

RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Eliran
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote: Just for curiosity: Let's suppose that NetHack was game developed by Micro$oft and Diabolo - by people from some OpenSource project. Will NetHack win then the above comparison ? No. It isn't just about the company/people behind... Regular

compilation problem with gnome2

2002-07-23 Thread Shai Bentin
I'm trying to compile the gnome2 packages. I got to libzvt without much problem. While compiling libzvt I get the following error, which is also inconsistent and occures on different libraries each time, and sometimes it just gives no more room on device .libs/[whateverlibrary].so following is

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote about RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost: Just for curiosity: Let's suppose that NetHack was game developed by Micro$oft and Diabolo - by people from some OpenSource project. Will NetHack win then the above comparison ? Touche :) -- Nadav

John Bryce company is dead?

2002-07-23 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
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Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Eliran wrote about Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost: I did. Nethack won. Did you have a point? This is what a UNIX user will say ^, of course some people do prefer to work on graphical X games... not much really newbies mostly... If you will ask the same question to a

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Eliran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did. Nethack won. Did you have a point? This is what a UNIX user will say ^ Ummm.did you happen to see what list you were in? Yes, of course that is what UNIX users say. In that respect, Linux won. of course some people do

RE: compilation problem with gnome2

2002-07-23 Thread Shai Bentin
Problem solved. It was an inconsistency of the disk fsck solved it Sorry for the bother -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shai Bentin Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: compilation problem with gnome2

Re: FYI: php vuln

2002-07-23 Thread frodo
TF I am no PHP expert, but this seems to be serious enough to post TF here. And in fact, if i am not mistaken, it looks like a good TF candidate for the next worm to make waves. so start patching or TF at least configure your php to restrict POSTS. TF http://www.php.net/release_4_2_2.php As far

resizing partitions

2002-07-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hello, When I first partitioned the disk I am using, I gave to /dev/hda1 500 mbytes, and the rest I put in an partition, in which I have several OS'es. Now I decided to change the size of /dev/hda1 (I can delete /dev/hda5), is there a way to change the size of this partition without up my

Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost

2002-07-23 Thread Oded Arbel
Nadav Har'El wrote: Nowadays there are many graphical Linux games, but let's not kid ourselves: most (if not all) new games that thrill kids are for either Windows or game consoles, not for Linux. Kids who play games on Windows usually don't care that Linux games are free! because they also copy

Re: resizing partitions

2002-07-23 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 07:51:04PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Hello, When I first partitioned the disk I am using, I gave to /dev/hda1 500 mbytes, and the rest I put in an partition, in which I have several OS'es. Now I decided to change the size of /dev/hda1 (I can delete

Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers

2002-07-23 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 05:36, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers: On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 06:09, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: What they aren't right in, IMHO, is that such 13 y.o teenagers should get some life on their

Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers

2002-07-23 Thread Orna Agmon
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: But do you argue that 18 hours a day at a computer is a royal exaggeration even for an adult? Think about the eyes of the 13 year old kid - 18 hours at the computer is very serious eye strain even for an adult. Not to talk about his back. I'm not