On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 08:53:11PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
I was going to stay out of the discussion, but I think you mean me,
Geoff, right?
Yes.
If so, we were not such bad guys - we didn't mine the
contents, nor were we actually interested in the values of any packet
header fields.
On 23/08/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's face it, if I picked a go code of buy (some number) of (drug name)
at (some price) from our supplier in (country name) no one would take
a second notice. The numbers could be times, dates, or addresses,
the drug names represent
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007, Gadi Cohen wrote about Re: [OT] Online privacy, police
to have free access to IP addresses:
Exactly, but that's just the point... in any sane democracy there are
structures in place to prevent such abuses taking place. Like before I
gave my example of police needing
Nadav Har'El wrote:
However, look at the other powers the police have, which are far more serious
than searching of evesdropping. The police have guns, and can shoot you, for
example. Before a policeman shoots you, does he need to get written
authorization from a judge? No, of course not. But
On 21/08/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, the above law could be improved by saying, for example, that anyone
whose records are pulled will have to be notified (preferably by an
automatic system) as soon as the investigation can allow it, but never
later than a month after the
The following movie of the day is pertinent to the discussion, and is
even a bit on-topic (there is a penguin, if you look carefully!):
http://wolfgang.lonien.de/?p=386
--
In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as
soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing.
My
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 02:22:51AM +0200, Moshe Leibovitch wrote:
I'm wonder if the Israeli law allows you to
encrypt your communications over public channels.
I wouldn't shock me to find out the even this discussion is illegal :)
There was a law that permitted encryption by private parties
Nadav Har'El wrote:
It doesn't make us a totalitarian state, unless the police actually (ab)uses
this power, and so
far, I don't think that it actually does.
Exactly, but that's just the point... in any sane democracy there are
structures in place to prevent such abuses taking place. Like
slightly less [OT] - read to the end.
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 02:22 +0200, Moshe Leibovitch wrote:
I'm wonder if the Israeli law allows you to
encrypt your communications over public channels.
I wouldn't shock me to find out the even this discussion is illegal :)
Some relevant links:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's not just data mining email, one of the people on this list, and
I won't name them if they wish to remain out of the discussion,
around 4 years ago worked for a startup that almost produced a
product that data mined real time communicaitons.
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:59:17 Oded Arbel wrote:
slightly less [OT] - read to the end.
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 02:22 +0200, Moshe Leibovitch wrote:
I'm wonder if the Israeli law allows you to
encrypt your communications over public channels.
I wouldn't shock me to find out the even this
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 22:17 +0300, Ehud Karni wrote:
I have an (official ?) email from the IMOD Encryption Control
Director that exempt any individual or company that uses e-mail
encryption for its own needs, as long as the user or company is
not in encryption business.
This is very
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/894512.html
In short: There is a law presently being passed that will give the
police free access to all phone numbers, IP addresses, etc, creating the
largest such database for police use in the entire Western World (i.e.
Israel will set a new precedent for
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Gadi Cohen wrote:
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:03:09 +0300
From: Gadi Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IGLU Mailing list linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: [OT] Online privacy, police to have free access to IP addresses
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/894512.html
In short
In addition, stop using your ISP's email, use either GMAIL or HOTMAIL or
whatever you like. As YBA suggested, encrypt email. Use steganography. Use
pigeons.
Smile at the camera, while you're at it.
Marc
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Use pigeons.
Sorry, we've had all the pigeons wired last week.
This change takes away the illusion of privacy you had nothing more.
Gilad
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Codefidence. A name you can trust(tm)
http://www.codefidence.com
Phone: +972.3.7515563
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Gadi Cohen wrote:
In short: There is a law presently being passed that will give the
police free access to all phone numbers, IP addresses, etc, creating the
largest such database for police use in the entire Western World (i.e.
Israel will set a new precedent for what is
On 20/08/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
far less opposed to giving the police more search power. It doesn't make
us a
totalitarian state, unless the police actually (ab)uses this power, and so
far, I don't think that it actually does.
There is also the issue of having all the
I'm wonder if the Israeli law allows you to
encrypt your communications over public channels.
I wouldn't shock me to find out the even this discussion is illegal :)
On 20/08/2007 01:03, Amos Shapira wrote:
On 20/08/07, *Nadav Har'El* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
far
IANAL, but if I remember correctly, the answer is that it is not only forbidden
to encrypt a message, it is even forbidden to modulate a message (i.e. change
the signal), without due permission from the relevant ministry.
In effect, by using such problematic and scurrilous items as voice mail
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