Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-20 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Uri Bruck, from the post of Fri, 15 Sep: > The "bituach leumi" is part of the "Mimshal Zamin" project. If it only > works on MSIE, then it isn't "zamin." > A quick google brought up this document: > http://www.knesset.gov.il/protocols/data/rtf/mada/2005-07-26.rtf > and I'm sure there are m

Re: paying 'Bituach Leumi' using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On Friday September 15 2006 20:06, Moshe Leibovitch wrote to Guy Keren: [skipped] Guys, guys, as long as you exchange Hebrew one-liners in private, I don't care, but why CC linux-il? This is an English-speaking list, after all. -- Sincerely Yours, Michael Vasiliev Linux-IL moderator "I'd crawl

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Julian Daich wrote: > And again you will need a MS Windows license to use IE or pay for > CrossOver Office, but in this case I don know what Microsoft stipulates > for using IE for W2000 or higher. > > J > I would like to clear an important misconception. CrossOver Office does NOT come with a

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Julian Daich
El vie, 15-09-2006 a las 22:28 +0300, Shachar Shemesh escribió: > Shoshannah Forbes wrote: > > > Nope, Mac isn't an option for IE- IE for Mac is dead, isn't available > > for download, and never supported Hebrew or Active-X anyway. (see here > > for more info: http://www.xslf.com/archives/000321.h

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shoshannah Forbes wrote: > Nope, Mac isn't an option for IE- IE for Mac is dead, isn't available > for download, and never supported Hebrew or Active-X anyway. (see here > for more info: http://www.xslf.com/archives/000321.html ) But now you can run the Windows IE on Intel macs using Wine.. S

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 14/09/2006, at 12:57, Julian Daich wrote: I can resume the only ways for regular citizens to use IE as pay for a MS license, pay for a Mac, Nope, Mac isn't an option for IE- IE for Mac is dead, isn't available for download, and never supported Hebrew or Active-X anyway. (see here for m

Re: paying 'Bituach Leumi' using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Moshe Leibovitch
זה לא רק הם. זה חלקים רבים מה-"ממשל (הלא) זמין" On 15/09/2006 15:32, guy keren wrote: סתם שאלה - למה ישר "לתבוע"? לא מוטב קודם לדבר ולהסביר, לפני שרצים לבית משפט? הרי המטרה שלנו אינה להרוויח כסף - אלא להוביל לתיקון המצב. יש סיכוי שדיבור והסברה לאנשי ביטוח לאומי יוביל לתיקון המצב באופן מהיר יותר

Re: paying 'Bituach Leumi' using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread guy keren
סתם שאלה - למה ישר "לתבוע"? לא מוטב קודם לדבר ולהסביר, לפני שרצים לבית משפט? הרי המטרה שלנו אינה להרוויח כסף - אלא להוביל לתיקון המצב. יש סיכוי שדיבור והסברה לאנשי ביטוח לאומי יוביל לתיקון המצב באופן מהיר יותר. אם לא - אז אפשר לדבר על תביעות. --גיא On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 12:46 +0300, Moish

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-15 Thread Uri Bruck
Eddie Aronovich wrote: This is clear way to start an endless thread to different & unrelated issues like what is the real meaning EULA of IE / WIN. I am not a lawyer, but IMHO, the antitrust means something totally different. Beofre someone will think - please, there is no need to bother a lawyer

RE: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Eddie Aronovich
ddie > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Daich > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:38 AM > To: Gabor Szabo > Cc: IGLU Mailing list > Subject: Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox > > El jue,

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 14 September 2006 08:20, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I called 02-6463252 the number on the main page of that site. > A nice guy called Yossi answered me. > > After a quick trial and error he asked me about my browser and then > explained to me that the government sites are built by Microsoft >

IE license, "OS components", WINE (was: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox)

2006-09-14 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
This license is talking about the OS updates shipped with Internet Explorer for Windows versions prior to Windows 2000, not about Internet Explorer itself. Note that Microsoft never calls Internet Explorer an "OS component". If you don't know what OS updates I'm talking about, try to remember

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Julian Daich
It does not matter. It is a general license as the GPL is. If MS says at their download site that a product is covered by this license( ies4linux automatically download IE from there), it is covered by such license. No matter if the product is explicitly or implicitly included into the license as t

Re: paying 'Bituach Leumi' using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Moish
הנושא נוגע גם לתחום הנגישות הכללית אשר לוקה מאד. האם יש גוף כלשהו שיקח על עצמו הגשת תביעה בנושא זה? אני משוכנע ששאנשים רבים המשתתפים ברשימת דיון זו ואחרות, ישמחו לספק את הידע הנדרש לבסס את כתב התביעה. האם פרויקט המרכבה איכשהו קשור לענין? אם כן, האם מישהו יודע אם ניתן להרחיב את המנדט של הגוף החדש ל

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Michael Jaffe
--0-1301579810-1158225621=:47990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Julian and Josh. Note that IE is *not* explicitly mentioned by name in the entire document. It is *implicitly* referenced as an Operating System (OS) component. Given the ant

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Julian Daich
El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 01:20 -0700, Michael Jaffe escribió: > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows > (sic) license to legally use IE. > W

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Josh Zlatin-Amishav
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Michael Jaffe wrote: --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to legally use IE. Why? I don't think IE is an in

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Michael Jaffe
--0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to legally use IE. Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft a

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Julian Daich
> > A quick workaround (while far from perfect) might be to use: > http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html > Also you can add the¨ IE view lite¨ extension for Firefox. It is very useful to see some Israeli sites. But sometimes only see because there are sites that you cannot type Hebrew

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Julian Daich
> A quick workaround (while far from perfect) might be to use: > http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html By the way, you will need a MS Winows license to legally use IE. > -- > - Josh > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-13 Thread Julian Daich
El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:20 +0300, Gabor Szabo escribió: > I called 02-6463252 the number on the main page of that site. > A nice guy called Yossi answered me. > > After a quick trial and error he asked me about my browser and then > explained to me that the government sites are built by Micros

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-13 Thread Josh Zlatin-Amishav
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Gabor Szabo wrote: I also tried to look at their home page http://b2b.btl.gov.il/ Non of the things that say "click here" work. not even the one that sais "click here if you found a problem". Can someone confirm it and/or let me know about a workaround? A quick workarou

Re: paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
I called 02-6463252 the number on the main page of that site. A nice guy called Yossi answered me. After a quick trial and error he asked me about my browser and then explained to me that the government sites are built by Microsoft and they support IE only (5.5 and above). He also told me I can

paying "Bituach Leumi" using Firefox

2006-09-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have just tried to pay "Bituach Leumi" via their web interface. BankHaPolaim has this option to pay your companies taxes via their web interface. As the first step they redirected me to a web site of the government that does not seem to work in Firefox. This is the page I was redirected to: ht