On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
this just show how naive are administrators today. anyway, as u know or
not know u don't have to be a hacker today to do what the hell u want.
if I wanna surf whatever the bleeping I want, I can do it and be sure
every person who know how to operate a
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Subject: RE: upcoming java ssh2?
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
this just show how naive are administrators today. anyway,
as u know or
not know u don't have
Tzahi Fadida wrote:
i disagree, since as long that there will be free access to internet
nodes, i.e: unlike some cellular companies that provide WAP services
do(they only allow you to surf their internal wap pages).
you can find a way to access these resources, since inside the
definition of
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From: Shachar Shemesh [mailto:linuxil;consumer.org.il]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:22 PM
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Subject: Re: upcoming java ssh2?
Tzahi Fadida wrote:
i disagree, since as long that there will be free access
Eli Marmor wrote:
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
From the creators of WeirdX:
http://www.jcraft.com/jsch/
version 0.0.6 of a java implementation of ssh2.
I think it's great that these people port to Java applets any client of
any client-server protocol (X, SSH, etc.).
..
So the big
Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Wed, 30 Oct:
So the big question: Why, when it comes to important protocols such as
SSH, X, IRC, VNC, etc., the applets must speak those protocols
directly with the backend, and can't speak it over HTTP/HTTPS?
Eli, you have been doing HTTP work in the past,
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:04:36AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Wed, 30 Oct:
So the big question: Why, when it comes to important protocols such as
SSH, X, IRC, VNC, etc., the applets must speak those protocols
directly with the backend, and can't speak it
Quoting Yedidyah Bar-David, from the post of Wed, 30 Oct:
Sometimes you'd rather that over nothing. I know at least two places
(and guess there are thousands) that do not permit any outgoing
traffic except http over their proxy (so that running sshd on port 80
won't work either). If you had a
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
It's certanly possible, but I believe you are missing some important
point here. The purpose of these applets is not to get easy access to
the machine using a new and innovative technique. The purpose is to
provide clientless SSH.
For example, I am one of the admins
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002, Eli Marmor wrote about Re: upcoming java ssh2?:
But your response answered my question. I asked why all those Java
applets use only their own protocol instead of using HTTP/HTTPS, and
thanks to your response I know the answer: Their developer just don't
know this trick
Nadav Har'El wrote:
Does your trick work well over HTTP proxies?
Some HTTP proxies (e.g., consider Apache's proxy, Squid, etc.) aren't
as generic as your trick might assume. They may not work full-duplex
(e.g., when the proxy is reading the response from the server it doesn't
try to read
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:25:31 +0200
Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes you'd rather that over nothing. I know at least two places
(and guess there are thousands) that do not permit any outgoing traffic
except http over their proxy (so that running sshd on port 80 won't
work
its all in the eye of the beholder, read ahead.
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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
From the creators of WeirdX:
http://www.jcraft.com/jsch/
version 0.0.6 of a java implementation
What you describe just proves how clueless many corporations are.
First they overload any concievable service on port 80 (what happend
to the other 16K tcp/udp ports?) than they find that they need
to make content filtering so only good http goes in.
The main idea behind a firewall is not
Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Wed, 30 Oct:
There are actually 3 methods, and not one.
The main one doesn't work well with some of the proxies, and is
probably exactly what you guessed.
I don't speak about black-magics,
well, do share, and stop talking in riddles like you invented
Aviram Jenik wrote:
The main idea behind a firewall is not to prevent rogue outgoing
communication (this is usually pointless; you can do full IP tunneling
over ICMP packets if you wish) but to prevent incoming traffic to
various services. For example, you may have an Intranet web server that
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:22 PM
To: Aviram Jenik
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Subject: Re: upcoming java ssh2?
Aviram Jenik wrote:
The main idea behind a firewall is not to prevent rogue outgoing
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 17:20, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
i disagree, since as long that there will be free access to internet
I don't think corporate employees using their windoze box to run kazaa and
other crap can be called free internet access.
AAMOF, I run several networks full of idiots
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Subject: Re: upcoming java ssh2?
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 17:20, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
i disagree, since as long that there will be free access to internet
I don't think corporate employees using their windoze box to
run kazaa and
other crap can
From the creators of WeirdX:
http://www.jcraft.com/jsch/
version 0.0.6 of a java implementation of ssh2.
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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
From the creators of WeirdX:
http://www.jcraft.com/jsch/
version 0.0.6 of a java implementation of ssh2.
I think it's great that these people port to Java applets any client of
any client-server protocol (X, SSH, etc.).
But there is still something that concerns
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