Re: RHEL missing components rant
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi all A small rant, if I may. Due to strange circumstances I ended up using RHEL3 (RedHat Enterprise Linux 3. Actually: Centos 3.1, which is a clone of it). This seems to be a bad decision to make: RHEL misses many highly-useful packages. To name those I currently miss most of all: gvim (vim-X11. vim-basic and vim-enhanced are there, though) ncftp lynx/links/elinks/w3m: no text-mode browser in sight. mc gv (ggv is there, though. I'm not sure about kghostview) In other words: will make your life misserable as a server if you ever want to do decent remote administration. A slightly louder rant, if I may. RHEL ships without mysql server, firewire and mailman, which is quite incomprehensible since redhat.com mailing lists run on mailman. I was forced to use third party binaries for these packages, except for firewire, which seems to be a dead project. Mysql server is now on the RHEL extras channel, but it took a while before they put it there. On the whole installing RHEL can be quite a frustrating experience. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RHEL missing components rant
Henry Ficher wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi all A small rant, if I may. Due to strange circumstances I ended up using RHEL3 (RedHat Enterprise Linux 3. Actually: Centos 3.1, which is a clone of it). This seems to be a bad decision to make: RHEL misses many highly-useful packages. To name those I currently miss most of all: gvim (vim-X11. vim-basic and vim-enhanced are there, though) ncftp lynx/links/elinks/w3m: no text-mode browser in sight. mc gv (ggv is there, though. I'm not sure about kghostview) In other words: will make your life misserable as a server if you ever want to do decent remote administration. A slightly louder rant, if I may. RHEL ships without mysql server, firewire and mailman, which is quite incomprehensible since redhat.com mailing lists run on mailman. RHEL WS (workstation) doesn't come with mysql-server except via the extras but RHEL AS (advanced server) does of course come with mysql-server. I can't vouch for the other packages but you can't really blame redhat for leaving servers out of their workstation distribution. yonah I was forced to use third party binaries for these packages, except for firewire, which seems to be a dead project. Mysql server is now on the RHEL extras channel, but it took a while before they put it there. On the whole installing RHEL can be quite a frustrating experience. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RHEL missing components rant
Yonah Russ wrote: Henry Ficher wrote: RHEL ships without mysql server, firewire and mailman, which is quite incomprehensible since redhat.com mailing lists run on mailman. RHEL WS (workstation) doesn't come with mysql-server except via the extras but RHEL AS (advanced server) does of course come with mysql-server. I can't vouch for the other packages but you can't really blame redhat for leaving servers out of their workstation distribution. yonah I was actually talking about RHEL ES (http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/es/) which is supposed to be for small/mid range servers, not workstations. Henry = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux supported notebook in israel ?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:26:07AM +0200, Stiven Andre wrote: Hi list. Sorry to be a bit off topic. I am about to buy myself a new notebook. I I do not think this is off-topic. I heard a rumor that IBM intends to provide full support for linux on its thinkpads, and move a significant amount of its employees to linux on thinkpad. I can't currently find a proof, but searching google for 'thinkpad linux support site:ibm.com' does bring, in the second hit, a list of certifications (made by others - mostly linuxcare RIP, RH and SuSE) for various thinkpads. You might want to contact IBM officials or dealers and ask about this. I do have to note that older (3-4 years old) HP laptops worked for us better than 1-2 years old thinkpads. I still didn't have an experience with newest thinkpads, though. But the main problem with the newer thinkpads was when connecting to an external monitor/beamer and I have a feeling this problem is unrelated to IBM, but is general to most radeon-based laptops. It's also not that important for most people, unless you need it to give lectures. If you do manage to get more concrete information, I would love to hear it, and think many here would too. -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: phpnuke
Hey, I looking around hebrew phpnuke and I found there is hebnuker and phpnuke-israel does anyhow know the diffrance between them? are they compatible with each other? I saw what's up moved from hebnuker to phpnuke-israel was there a special reason? and most importatly I saw in the hebnuker site that they offer for 300$ to remove the GPL from the code they made (which is fine) BUT they say this doesn't remove the GPL from the phpnuke which they require 300$ as well to remove, so if I buy the hebnuker version without the phpnuke license doesn't it break GPL very badly? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: phpnuke
Quoting Ely Levy, from the post of Fri, 23 Apr: and most importatly I saw in the hebnuker site that they offer for 300$ to remove the GPL from the code they made (which is fine) BUT they say this doesn't remove the GPL from the phpnuke which they require 300$ as well to remove, so if I buy the hebnuker version without the phpnuke license doesn't it break GPL very badly? Sadly, I don't think so. but then again, that's why it's an option and not a must. If they sell you a patch to a GPL program which you then use only in-house, it's perfectly legal because it does not break any GPL clause. the problems start when you want to redistribute the code, and you based your changes on non-GPL additions, but then again, why would you want to do that? Isn't that why you payed the extra dollars? might as well take the GPL version for free and do whatever you want with it... If I understand correctly, there is no difference other than the license... I think this is similar to my home kernel running with xmga for DRI, or my laptop running with nvidia drivers. they taint the kernel, but they are legal to run because I brought them and compiled them locally myself, I'm not intending to redistribute the result. -- Astral traveler Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
