Re: some help in technical solution
Hi This is interesting idea. However, it support voting between 2 options, only, while I need at least 4 options. I thought that combination of analog DAQ and 4 push buttons with analog output may help here. Does someone have an idea about such combination (analog DAQ+edge unit)? With best regards Yosi Yarchi On 04/06/2011 10:55 AM, Jason Friedman wrote: I think the best solution would be to use a data acquisition device, either USB or PCI. Measurement computing sell relatively cheap devices, e.g. this USB one for $99: http://www.mccdaq.com/usb-data-acquisition/USB-1024-Series.aspx can measure 24 digital channels (you could get two if you need 30). Each "competitor" could have a small switch, which connects their input line to say a 5V power supply. You can then write a very simple program to detect when each competitor presses their switch (with sub-millisecond accuracy!). These devices apparently have linux support. Jason On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, yosi yarchi yosi.yar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I need application that will be able to collect and process inputs from 30 (!) competitors, and will display the results very fast. The ideal solution could be to collect the inputs via SMS: each competitor send his answer, the application collect the answers (related to phone number) and process them. However, I can't assume that the competitors have mobile phones (they may be little childs...). I thought to use 30 USB numerical keyboards as input devices, connected with cables to 3 hubs, connected to the computer. However, I don't have experience with USB drivers at linux... Is it feasible? What should be the main guidelines for the solution? With best regards Yosi Yarchi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Jason Friedman Postdoctoral scholar Macquarie Centre for Cognitive Science Macquarie University, NSW 2109 Australia email: write.to.ja...@gmail.com web: http://curiousjason.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: some help in technical solution
Hi
Regarding the solution of mouse or numeric keypad (with USB hubs), I
have no clear idea about the technical obstacles. I think that main
ones are:
(1) bypass X system, and direct the events from particular sources
(those mouses or numeric keyboards) to my app.
(2) process the events by myself, with knowledge about the source
device (the particular mouse or numeric keyboard).
Have you any ideas regarding available support in linux for (1) and (2)?
With best regards
Yosi Yarchi
On 04/06/2011 05:08 PM, Udi Finkelstein wrote:
I think any analog DAQ based solution will be
expensive. Use too many analog levels, and it will not be accurate. Use
a small number of levels, and the price per port for analog connection
will drive the price too high.
You can try using computer mice.
cheap 2 button+scroll wheel starts at 17NIS on zap.
Such a mouse can provide at least 5 events:
right button
left button
middle button (scroll wheel press)
scroll up
scroll down
You can then take apart the mouse and repackage it, maybe replacing the
wheel with 3 distinct switches.
Ofcourse you might need powered hubs if you intend to drive 30 mice.
You could try taking eight 4 port unpowered hubs (also starts at 17 NIS
on zap), and if you computer has 8 free USB ports (many do these days),
you could fit 30 mice, and hope that each port can drive 4 mice + hub.
You will also have 2 spare ports (8*4-30)for the console
keyboard/mouse.
Another direction would be to use an arduino board.
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/microcontrollers-arduino-compatible-c-132_133.html
The cheapest $19 board has 14 digital inputs plus 6 analog ones which
you can treat as digital if you like.
20 input pins can serve 5 users (4 input pins/user) or 6 users (3 input
pins per user if you wire them smartly - 1 qualifier signal that is
grounded by all 4 switches, and 2 more that are getting a 2-bit binary
code.
seeedstudio has free worldwide shipping for orders above $50.
Udi
2011/4/6 yosi yarchi yosi.yar...@gmail.com
Hi
This is interesting idea. However, it support voting between 2 options,
only, while I need at least 4 options.
I thought that combination of analog DAQ and 4 push buttons with analog
output may help here.
Does someone have an idea about such combination (analog DAQ+edge unit)?
With best regards
Yosi Yarchi
On 04/06/2011 10:55 AM, Jason Friedman wrote:
I think the best solution would be to use a data
acquisition device, either USB or PCI.
Measurement computing sell relatively cheap devices, e.g.
this
USB one for $99:
http://www.mccdaq.com/usb-data-acquisition/USB-1024-Series.aspx
can measure 24 digital channels (you could get two if you
need
30).
Each "competitor" could have a small switch, which connects
their input line to say a 5V power supply.
You can then write a very simple program to detect when each
competitor presses their switch
(with sub-millisecond accuracy!).
These devices apparently have linux support.
Jason
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, yosi
yarchi yosi.yar...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi
all
I need application that will be able to collect and process inputs from
30 (!) competitors, and will display the results very fast. The ideal
solution could be to collect the inputs via SMS: each competitor send
his answer, the application collect the answers (related to phone
number) and process them. However, I can't assume that the competitors
have mobile phones (they may be little childs...).
I thought to use 30 USB numerical keyboards as input devices, connected
with cables to 3 hubs, connected to the computer.
However, I don't have experience with USB drivers at linux...
Is it feasible? What should be the main guidelines for the solution?
With best regards
Yosi Yarchi
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some help in technical solution
Hi all I need application that will be able to collect and process inputs from 30 (!) competitors, and will display the results very fast. The ideal solution could be to collect the inputs via SMS: each competitor send his answer, the application collect the answers (related to phone number) and process them. However, I can't assume that the competitors have mobile phones (they may be little childs...). I thought to use 30 USB numerical keyboards as input devices, connected with cables to 3 hubs, connected to the computer. However, I don't have experience with USB drivers at linux... Is it feasible? What should be the main guidelines for the solution? With best regards Yosi Yarchi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[JOB Request] Looking for a job as developer
Hi My name is Yosi Yarchi and I'm embedded software developer. I'm very skilled and experienced - since '95 - in variety of embedded environments (linux, VxWorks, C, C++, Perl, Bash, controllers, etc.) and applications (mostly communication and networking: IP, Ethernet, SONET/SDH, routing protocols, etc). I'm looking for partial time job - 50-60%. The "partial" is because at the rest of the time I'm leading social project with at risk youth. By employing me at partial time job, you actually enable this social project. Please check if there are any open jobs at your company. My CV could be found at: www.yarchi.com/clients/resume.pdf www.yarchi.com/clients/resume.odt With best regards Yosi Yarchi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox loxs
From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: linux-il linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: firefox loxs Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:52:35 +0300 (IDT) On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Aaron wrote: Hi all, I have been having strange behavior with firefox. when I go to save a file or to close a tab or firefox the browser often (not every time) locks up. I googled but I didn't find anything exactly like my case, has anyone had this problem? does anyone have a solution? It did not happen to me but maybe you need to add some bagels to go with the lox. When the browser 'locks up' the next time get a 'ps -auxwf|grep firefox ps.out' and then 'lsof|grep firefox lsof.out' and then be prepared to answer questions about them on a mailing list. It could be misconfigured dns, bad permissions, bad ram in your machine, .. Or an extension that has gone bad. SwitchProxy caused a similar thing to me in the past. Peter Yosi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tapuz and Walla support for non IE deteriorates
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tapuz and Walla support for non IE deteriorates Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:16:42 +0300 snip To be clear of what happened with Tapuz: 1. I used to be able to login to forums, write messages, read and send personal messages. I could NOT delete personal messages. Their forum search option is not working with non-IE browsers either. Yosi _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which RH or FC to install for company developer desktop?
From: guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which RH or FC to install for company developer desktop? Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:02:31 +0200 (IST) (i'm responding only because i didn't see the more qualified people respond to this yet) snip since the machine has a pentium 4 with hyper-threading, i installed an SMP kernel and it now runs with '2 CPUs' - does windows XP does this out of the box, by the way? (i don't know since i didn't check). Yes i don't use any C++ IDE either - by my room-mate, which also runs fedora on his desktop, runs both IntelliJ (Java) and anjuta (C/C++) on his fedora with no noticeable problems. Ohhh, right, please tell Etay I said hi. Yosi _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grip rips at 4x speed instead of close to CD-ROM full-speed
From: Matan Ziv-Av [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: grip rips at 4x speed instead of close to CD-ROM full-speed Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:24:24 +0200 (IST) On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: When I use grip 3.0.7 to rip+encode a music CD, it rips it at about 4x, while the CD-ROM drive is 52x. I already used hdparm -E 52 /dev/hdd on the drive and in Windows FreeRIP rips at close to full speed. How can I rip at full speed using grip? Did you try to run man grip? Especially look at the options: Disable paranoia Disable extra paranoia Disable scratch detection Disable scratch repair For more details about this (and testing cdda ripping with more info about what goes on), try using cdparanoia from the command line. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Continuing Matan's advice I recall seeing as part of grip's user documentation some mentioning about why does it rip so slow compared to Windows. Iirc, the solution had to do with scsi emulation but I don't remember exactly how. I'd suggest googling on grip and scsi and you are bound to find your answer. Hope this helps, Yosi _ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rotal USB ADSL modem - ALE130
Hi All I 've just got ROTAL's ADSL USB modem. I didn't get the old one (ALE070) which proved to work under linux, but newer one, ALE130 (very small size). I couldn't operate it with the provided package. I suspect the reason is that it identifies itself as unknown USB device. Attached the output of PROBE and DOCTOR programs. Have one any idea about what changes could be done to make it work also? PROBE .LOG: -- WARNING: before probing, please ensure that your USB devices are plugged in and that your system's USB support is properly configured USB modem to probe must be UNinitialized, it will surely appear as an unknown device (because it is not initialized yet), for instance: ? (0547:2131) your USB devices: 1: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) 2: USB-ADSL Modem / GlobeSpan Inc. (1690:0211) 3: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) enter device to probe (1-3): probing, please wait.. your USB devices now: 1: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) 2: USB-ADSL Modem / GlobeSpan Inc. (1690:0211) 3: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) probed USB device: USB OHCI Root Hub VID1=, PID1= VID2=, PID2= Did you really unplug/replug your modem before launching this script? DOCTOR.LOG: - You are using linux kernel version 2.4.18-14 Support for USB is OK Preliminary USB device filesystem is OK dabusb module is not loaded: OK ehci-hcd module is not loaded: OK OHCI support is OK /dev/ppp is OK HDLC support is OK HDLC support is OK (no bug) vid/pid read from /etc/eciadsl/vidpid: 1690/0205 0915/0206 I cannot find your ADSL modem: Fatal With best regards Yosi Yarchi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rotal USB ADSL modem - ALE130
Of course. I think the problem is that the configuration file knows only ALE070, and build data base only for the appropriate values: /etc/eciadsl/vidpid: 1690/0205 0915/0206 The DOCTOR program looks for those values. In our case, it find the value 211, not 205 or 206, thus report fatal error. Attached the content of /proc/bus/usb/devices where the vid and pid are not as expected by DOCTOR: T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 3 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00 S: Product=USB OHCI Root Hub S: SerialNumber=c8859000 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=1690 ProdID=0211 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=GlobeSpan Inc. S: Product=USB-ADSL Modem C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=83(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms I: If#= 0 Alt= 1 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=1008 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms I: If#= 0 Alt= 2 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 912 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms I: If#= 0 Alt= 3 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 736 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms I: If#= 0 Alt= 4 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 448 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms I: If#= 0 Alt= 5 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 240 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms I: If#= 0 Alt= 6 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 80 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=3ms T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 3 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00 S: Product=USB OHCI Root Hub S: SerialNumber=c8857000 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms I tried to manually hack the vidpid file, but it failed though. With best regards Yosi Yarchi Michael Stolovitzsky wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 18:55, yosi yarchi wrote: Did you really unplug/replug your modem before launching this script? Hi All I 've just got ROTAL's ADSL USB modem. I didn't get the old one (ALE070) which proved to work under linux, but newer one, ALE130 (very small size). I couldn't operate it with the provided package. I suspect the reason is that it identifies itself as unknown USB device. Attached the output of PROBE and DOCTOR programs. Have one any idea about what changes could be done to make it work also? PROBE .LOG: -- WARNING: before probing, please ensure that your USB devices are plugged in and that your system's USB support is properly configured USB modem to probe must be UNinitialized, it will surely appear as an unknown device (because it is not initialized yet), for instance: ? (0547:2131) your USB devices: 1: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) 2: USB-ADSL Modem / GlobeSpan Inc. (1690:0211) 3: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) enter device to probe (1-3): probing, please wait.. your USB devices now: 1: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) 2: USB-ADSL Modem / GlobeSpan Inc. (1690:0211) 3: USB OHCI Root Hub (:) probed USB device: USB OHCI Root Hub VID1=, PID1= VID2=, PID2= Did you really unplug/replug your modem before launching this script? DOCTOR.LOG: - You are using linux kernel version 2.4.18-14 Support for USB is OK Preliminary USB device filesystem is OK dabusb module is not loaded: OK ehci-hcd module is not loaded: OK OHCI support is OK /dev/ppp is OK HDLC support is OK HDLC support is OK (no bug) vid/pid read from /etc/eciadsl/vidpid: 1690/0205 0915/0206 I cannot find your ADSL modem: Fatal With best regards Yosi Yarchi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL
root password lost
Title: root password lost Hi, I have computer that has RH7.3 on it and I don't know the root and any other users password ,can someone please tell me waht is the best way to login :)
Re: SIM release 0.7
I have made a source rpm (using Oren's spec file) and a binary rpm that was compiled on a RedHat 7.2 machine. Next week, when I'm back to work, I'll make a binary rpm for RedHat 7.3 (kde 3.0.3) as well. Vladimir, please put the source rpm I sent you on the website as well, in case other users will want to build their binary rpm on their own. Sincerely, Yosi From: Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vladimir Shutoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SIM release 0.7 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:28:13 +0300 áéåí øàùåï, 25 áàåâåñè 2002, 16:50, Vladimir Shutoff ëúá: Hi! I have made release SIM-0.7 and I shall be grateful if you will make RPMS for SIM-0.7 (on cvs tagged SIM-0_7) Sure thing :-) Mandrake RPMS for 0.7 on my site at http://www.geek.co.il/RPMS. the binary is built for Mandrake 9.0 with KDE 3.0.3, QT3.0.5 and gcc3.2. the source would probably build on any Mandrake system with KDE3 and QT3.0.4 and above, possibly on other systems with --nodeps or minor spec changes. Thanks for writing a great piece of software ! -- Oded _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Java apps become sluggish
Hi, I have encountered a strange phenomena, that I can't seem to solve. When I am using a gui java application for a long period of time it becomes sluggish and very slow to respond. It happened to me with two java IDEs: IntelliJ's IDEA and Eclipse. Now, if these were merely memory leaks, closing the application (and the jvm) should have solved the problems. But no. Restaring the application brings them to the same unresponsive state. Only restarting X seems to help. I have tried these two apps versus various jre's - Sun, IBM and Blackdown to name a few. My system is RedHat 7.2 running KDE 3.0 any useful ideas? Sincerely, Yosi _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Creating maxium number of threads for a process
Hi, As far as I know, kernel 2.4.x the only limit on the number of running threads per process is the amount of free RAM/swap. I'm trying to test that whether pthread_create fails only when memory is exhausted. The test machine is RedHat 7.3 with kernel v2.4.18, 256MB RAM and 512MB swap. I hacked glibc to change the macro PTHREAD_THREADS_MAX from 1024 to 16384 and made sure there is no limit from bash, as well as from the kernel (/proc/sys/kernel/pthread-max). A small test that creates a lot of threads fails exactly at 1531 threads. Trying to create more threads past this figure fails with the error Interrupted system call (error number 11). With 1530 threads running, there is ~11MB free RAM and only ~4MB of swap is being used. Did I miss something in the configuration of the machine or environment that limits me? Sincerely Yosi _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating maxium number of threads for a process
From: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Creating maxium number of threads for a process Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:40:47 +0300 Could you try creating as many processes (with fork), not pthreads, and see if that succeeds? Maybe pthreads adds some overheads (file descriptors, stacks) that you don't have with actual processes. I find that hard to belive that a thread (otherwise known as a light weight process) will have a bigger overhead than an actual process. Besides, the file descriptor number is dynamic (/proc and ulimit) and I made sure that I can open hundreds of thousands of files. In LinuxThreads, each thread is given a stack with a constant size, which (in the latest glibc implementations) is determined by the stacksize limit (run limit or ulimit to see that limit). With the default 8MB stack per thread, 1531 threads require 12 GB (!!) of virtual memory, which is actually impossible on a normal 32bit Linux, so I assumed you manually lowered this limit. If you lowered it to 2MB, 1531 stacks need 3062 MB of virtual memory - and this is almost the absolute limit you can get (with the additional 1 GB mapped to the kernel). Note that under older glibc's/kernels, each thread always gets 2MB regardless of the RLIMIT_STACK limit - so please test this on a recent system. To test if this is the problem, please try to reduce the amount of stack space each thread takes up; try doing: limit stacksize 512k before running your test program. Or, do do it in C, do in your program #include sys/time.h #include sys/resource.h #include unistd.h struct rlimit limit; limit.rlim_cur=512*1024; limit.rlim_max=0; setrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, limit); before starting any threads. Each thread is created with a stack of 16KB. I set the limit in the shell to 8KB but that didn't make a difference. Before I execute my program I have 24MB free RAM and after creating 1500 threads I have 4MB free. and 512MB free swap. Yosi _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew on Evolution
From: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lior Kesos [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hebrew on Evolution Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:06:26 +0200 (IST) Hello list, I know Ilya and other local gtk-bidi hackers have discussed thgis before but has anybody gotten evolution to see hebrew e-mail properly. Not much luck here. See recent thread about biditext and evolution. But maybe you can run all of the bonobo components under biditext (that is: with LD_PROLOAD=/path/to/biditext.so ) I've tried the 1.0 release and it does look impressive but mozilla's proper hebrew is hard to beat and although I'd like to shift to evolution I won't untill I can find a way to read hebrew mails normally on evolution. Hmmm... does evolution use gecko to present html mail? What about text mail? IIRC, Evolution uses the gtkhtml widget to both edit and show html mail. Yosi _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: evolution weather - city codes
Hi, I have also played a little with the different codes, and came up to similar results. That is why I have included only Ovda, Ben Gurion and Eilat in the patch I submitted to Ximian. Maybe, Ximian can change the server they query from. However, I seriously doubt it. Evolution is in total freeze until 1.0 will be released. Yosi From: Shai Bentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: evolution weather - city codes Date: 18 Nov 2001 11:58:30 +0200 The following codes are the official city codes. Some are not updated regularly, some seem to not be carried by the ximian weather server: OK LLOV - ovda LLBG - Ben Gurion LLET - Eilat Not Updated on a daily basis LLJR - Jerusalem LLIB - Rosh Pina LLBS - Beer Sheva Not Carried LLSD - Sde Dov LLHA - Haifa Hope it helps who ever asked. Shai _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patching Ximian Evolution to show the weather in Israel (patch included)
Hi, If you are an Evolution user, you probably know that on the My Evolution tab you can customize the weather section. However, for some reason Evolution never showed the weather in Israel. Well, I wrote a small patch that fixes that problem, and lets Evolution display the weather in Israel as well.I submitted it to the developers, but I don't know if it will get in for v1.0 Anyway, I'm attaching it to this message, in case you want to use it. On my installation (Evo for RH7.2) the file that needs to be patched is /usr/share/evolution/Locations Comments will be greatly appreciated Sincerely, Yosi --- Locations.orig Thu Nov 15 18:48:05 2001 +++ Locations Thu Nov 15 19:02:04 2001 @@ -3,7 +3,13 @@ [ME] name=Middle East -states=DZ BH IR KW LB OM QA SA AE YE +states=DZ BH IR IL KW LB OM QA SA AE YE + +[ME_IL] +name=Israel +loc0=Ben\\ Gurion\\ International\\ Airport LLBG -- --- +loc1=Eilat LLET -- --- +loc2=Ovda LLOV -- --- [ME_AE] name=United Arab Emirates _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Patching Ximian Evolution to show the weather in Israel (patch included)
Hi Ilya, Read my original e-mail again. I already submitted the patch to the person responsible for bug 7568. However, I'm not sure it will enter to v1.0 While on the subject, if anyone on the list knows the codes to other places in Israel (Jerusalem, Haifa, Tel-Aviv...) please let me know, and I'll update the file with those locations as well. Currently only Eilat, Ben Gurion Airport and Ovda are being shown. Yosi From: Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Patching Ximian Evolution to show the weather in Israel (patch included) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:25:52 +0200 On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 08:50:09AM +, Yosi wrote: Comments will be greatly appreciated Very good initiative. Please attach this fix to bug 7568 ( http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7568 ) and it will likely enter 1.0. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any recommendation for Linux friendly AMD motherboard?
Hi, I am considering upgrading my current machine to an Athlon ThunderBird and would be interested in your recommendations on what motherboards are known to be supported for Linux and what boards should I stay away from. Especially, what do you think about Asus A7V and ABit KT 7A? Personal experience with any of these boards will be more than helpful Sincerely, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hdparm
Hi, I don't know what controller you have, but my hard drive (IBM) which is also 7200rpm/ATA100 on an ATA66 controller does 33MB/s easily. Yosi From: Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: hdparm Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:07:27 +0300 Actually, that's how I found out about the cdrom :) I had a weird problem - my 7200rpm / ATA100 hdd couldn't read/write more than 2mb/s on Linux. Now, after loading the VIA IDE module, and enabling DMA - It reads in 22mb/s! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFS, ReiserFS, Ext2FS, Fat32
Hi, In case you missed it on /. here is a link to a benchmark about the different filesystems described in the subject line. Note taht the benchmark is in Spanish, but you can use babelfish or systrans to translate it to English. The article can be found here http://bulma.lug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=626 Cheers, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 2.1.2 and RedHat 6.2
Hi, I noticed that the Iglu ftp site carries rpm for RedHat 7.1 . Are there any plans to release a version of this RPMS for RedHat 6.2? Sincerely, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfs and linux
Well, let us not forget that some of us are still using 2.2.x kernels and while ReiserFS exists for both v2.2 and v2.4, XFS only exists for v2.4 Yosi From: Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: xfs and linux Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:57:40 +0300 (IDT) I see no reason to use reiserfs beside the fact xfs is not offecialy in the kernel yet. I don't think it can even get close in reliabilty and preformance is reisierfs even 64 bit? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.4 Kernels Slower Than 2.2 Series on PIII's? [Was Re: VMWare 2.0.4 is out]
From: Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VMWare 2.0.4 is out Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:27:29 +0300 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: snip The question is important because the difference between 2.4.4 (plus the latest AC patches which fix some broken things) and 2.4.3 are huge: Not only the above problem (VMware), but also performance (dramatically improved implementation of fork(), and zero-copy networking), and even security (13 patches which were contributed by OpenWall for 2.2.19, and ported to 2.4.4). Speaking of the performance issue, you might want to take a look at this article: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-05-03-007-20-NW-KN Cheers, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla latest snapshot
Dear List Members, This is one of many posts that keep asking me the same question - did I compile bidi support in or not. Well, if you'll read my original post again, you'll note that I specifically wrote that yes, the rpms I compiled do include bidi support. While on the subject, the snapshot I compiled yesterday was dated 28/04/2001. However, since then a newer snapshot was released on 01/05/2001 and I am happy to say that it also compiled nicely on my RedHat 6.2, and you guessed it right - with bidi support Sincerely, Yosi From: Eran Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mozilla latest snapshot Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:11:10 +0200 The RH 6.2 Mozilla RPMs include bidi support too? At 08:54 01/05/01 +, you wrote: Hello, I have been loosly following the discussion on the latest Mozilla and BiDi support, and I thought you'd like to know that 1. CVS RPMS can be found here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk/Red_Hat_7x_ RPMS/ 2. These RPMS compiled nicely on my machine at work (RedHat 6.2) with bidi support Cheers, Yosi Regards, Eran Levy. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WebSite: http://come.to/liloboot _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla latest snapshot
Hello, I have been loosly following the discussion on the latest Mozilla and BiDi support, and I thought you'd like to know that 1. CVS RPMS can be found here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk/Red_Hat_7x_RPMS/ 2. These RPMS compiled nicely on my machine at work (RedHat 6.2) with bidi support Cheers, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla latest snapshot
Yes. I was surprised that it actually did, but I shut my mouth about it and rpm -Uvh'ed it before it got a chance to complain :-) Seriously, though, you should define --enable-bidin the the spec file for the bidi support to be compiled in. Cheers, Yosi Ely wrote: yea but do they compile with bidi support? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Tue, 1 May 2001, Yosi wrote: | Hello, | | I have been loosly following the discussion on the latest Mozilla and BiDi | support, and I thought you'd like to know that | | 1. CVS RPMS can be found here: | http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk/Red_Hat_7x_RPMS/ | | 2. These RPMS compiled nicely on my machine at work (RedHat 6.2) with | bidi support | | Cheers, | Yosi | _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The wonderful world of GTK (rant)
Why not simply: rpm -ta gtk+-1.2.10.tar.gz or even only: rpm -tb gtk+-1.2.10.tar.gz (don't produce a source rpm at all) But I do want the src.rpm . I then change the spec file so the package will be compiled with the flags and configuration options I want to. From my experience, using the appropriate optimization flags for your cpu (Athlon in my case) can result in a drastic performance increase. For example, compiling Lame with special optimization flags yielded an encoder which was almost 50% than the stock encoder. However, you are right, that if you do not require any special options in the package, just create the binary, as you suggested. What do you mean? I mean that after you do ./configure, a package_name.spec is produced. ProFTP daemon is one example. Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The wonderful world of GTK (rant)
Morning, Evening, Well, it seems that with Redhat 7.1 (and probably with Mandrake 8 - not sure) - you'll get gtk 1.2.9 and glib 1.2.9, which... umm... breaks the compatibility with all of whats related to fonts... Solution? Upgrade to GTK+ and GLIB 1.2.10. RPM's are not available yet, so compile them with the parameter: --prefix=/usr or else gtk+ won't find glib (glib needs to be compiled first). Official RPMS may not be available yet, but you can *easily* create your own rpms by doing rpm -ts gtk+-1.2.10.tar.gz and the same goes to glib. Then you compile the src.rpm that was generated. Don't forget to remove the gtk+ and gtk+-devel and glib (and yes, glib-devel) RPM's before installing the new compiled ones (unless you got the RPM's - currently available only to SuSE). another reason why I love so much gtk... Please, no flame wars here, but I find that glib and gtk+ rpms are much more easy to get than qt rpms. That is, if you bother to look in the tar.gz and see that it actually contains a spec file. I thought that Ximian would be a little more responsive, and will produce their own rpm version for Mandrake, Redhat and the other distributions, but they are lagging behind, for no apparent reason (to me at least). BTW, from my personal experience, there are packages which do not contain spec files, but the spec file is created after running configure. LAME (an mp3 encoder) and ProFTP are two names that come to mind. Cheers, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla and Hebrew, KDE RPM's, and other stuff
I think there is a very recent rpm (both src.rpm and i386.rpm) of mozilla (dating 05/04/2001, IIRC) that can be found at http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software Hope this helps, Yosi Tzafrir wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi All, as you can see from the time of this email - I couldn't get some sleep ;) So, I found out that Mozilla now have the bidi stuff included in the main HEAD of the CVS, it's just that it's not enable by default... See http://www.mozilla.org/projects/intl/bidi-progress.html It is not fully checked-in yet, as far as I can tell. so, all you have to do isto go to: http://www.mozilla.org/cvs.html and follow their instructions to get the CVS tree to your machine, and when it finishes and start configuring - stop it and re-run: ./configure --enable-bidi then make I haven't tested it yet (it's compiling right now) - but Ilya told me he'll make a binary tarball from it. If someone could build an SRPM - then I'll be more then happy to rebuild the RPM's for Redhat 6.x, SuSE 7.x, and Mandrake 7.x A simpler thing is to follow the instructions http://mozilla.org/build/distribution.html and build a "distribtions" tarball. The easiest thing to start with is the existing SRPMs of mozilla . Maybe I'll try it later this week. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NVidia 0.9-7 is upon us
Hello, According to this http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-13-019-04-NW-HW-SW NVidia has released a new version of its drivers. I am curious to know if anyone has already installed them, and if so what success/horror stories s/he has. I am especially interested hearing from people who have TNT/TNT2 cards like myself. Cheers, Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NVidia Drivers (0.9.6)
I found a site that carries a test of the new NVidia drivers (0.9-6) which can be found here: http://www.evil3d.net/articles/linux/nv95v96/ However, does any one knows if the new drivers reduces the performance of the TNT/TNT2 range as well? Sincerely, Yosi Hetz Wrote: Hi, Just to let you know - the new NVidia drivers (0.9.6) got a serious bug which reduces performance of Geforce 2 and GeForce 2 ultra. So don't install it. Thanks, -- Hetz Ben Hamo Hardware Research dept. Aduva Inc. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewall
Hi Eli, Thanks for the link. It is very interesting. BTW, I didn't want to start a flame war on the list, but if I was that guy who asked the question, I'd probably use OpenBSD and not Linux. I think that this guy will probably install the Firewall on his working machine, which is not a good idea. Yosi An excellent benchmark and survey of Linux firewalls was published by LinuxWorld. It contains comparisons, guides, descriptions about the various types of firewalling, and covers both commercial and free offers. You may find it at: http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-10/lw-10-fwproducts1.html -- Eli Marmor _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Error in post
Hi List, I have posted a private e-mail to Eli Marmor, and accidently sent it to the whole list. The major reason I sent it to Eli privately was because I did not want to start a flame war on this list. Please disregard my post. I appologize for making that mistake. Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc question.
Hi, After reading the answers of Guy and Omer, to your question, I think that neither of them actually answered, on how to compile a kernel on RedHat 7.0 . If we forget for a moment the flame war about the decision to include a snapshot of gcc in RH7 , and focus on your probelm, the answer will be you need to install a package called kgcc from the RH7 disc. RedHat is aware that the kernel doesn't compile with their supplied gcc-2.96 , and thus have created a package called kgcc that let's you compile the kernel. Hope this helps, Yosi Maxim Kryachko wrote: Hi all. Having recently installed RH7 I tried to compile several things, such as modem driver, new kernel and modules, in all cases compiler (gcc) reports of a bunch of errors and exits. Both modem driver and kernel (2.3.9) compile OK in Slackware 7 on gcc-2.92. Now I use version 2.96 of gcc, which comes with the distribution. Did anyone experienced same problem? In case I will decide to get down to previous version of gcc, where one could find RPMs instead of tarballs of the packages (RH7 installed everything as RPMs). ftp.gnu.org contains tarballs only... 10x Max. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc question.
Hi, Alex is right, you have to change the kernel's Makefile so it will use kgcc insted of gcc. Alex is also correct that the answer I gave appears in the manual. Yosi Alex wrote: i think you also have to set the "CC" system variable to "kgcc" by the way from what I know this issue is stated in rh7 documentation. Did you read the manual? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DISTRIBUTION WAR!!! (Was: RH 7.0 infested with bugs?)
Shahar Wrote: Let the flame war begin! You are right :-( . While I asked a question that I think will interest the rest of RedHat users, it seems that some people took the opportunity to enlighten us all with their wisdom of how they chose a much superior distribution, and how bad RedHat is. I am not interested in this kind of war, and I am sure that the majority of the list isn't either. Can we please focus on the topic at hand? I was asking for feedbacks (bad *and* good) from anyone who installed the latest Red Hat 7. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. Yosi _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel 2.2.16 and CD-ROM drives
Hi, I am using kernel 2.2.16 (plus patches to ResierFS and IDE). Recently the kernel crashed while trying to rip audio track from a CD. Now, If I remember correctly, 2.2.16 was issued after a serious security bug was found, and I think that a short time after issuing 2.2.16, Alan Cox issued a 2.2.17presomething that was supposed to fix a problem with CD-ROM drives. Does anyone on the list remembers if that was the case, and is it known that 2.2.16 has problems with some brands of CD-ROM drives? TIA, Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Optimise your HD (IDE only)
Evgeny is right - You can download these patches (or from Hedrick's directory where you can find the kernel sources, as well). However I should advice you that these sources, most of the times labeled "experimental" can and will corrupt your filesystem. I had this very same problem with my VIA KX7 (motherboard for Athlon). The patch was buggy and massievly corrupted my filesystem. The latest ide patch, though, works smoothly for me. You have been warned. Yosi Evgeny wrote: Since most of the new IDE controllers doesn't present in the 2.2.x series "natively" it's possible to download patch for the kernel that adds support for most of them (VIA,Promise, etc...) from http://www.linux-ide.org/. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GPG on different machines
You wrote: I have installed GPG on 2 different machines. The different user accounts on these machines are identical. Do you mean uses have accounts to both of these machines? Very likely, I plan to have 2 sets of keys for each user account, one for each machine. Are there any good practices regarding the number of keys a user may have? A user can have several keys if he wishes too, or just one and it is up to him. What is more important to imply, is where those keys are stored, should they have an expiry date (imho, every key should have one) and how will bad keys be revoked. If you are really paranoid (a recommended attitude) you should look into the usage of PKI (public key infrastructure), All according to your users needs. If you have a large number of users, managing their keys can be more than just a pain in the neck, so PKI is probably the only way to go. Once the keys are generated, where do I keep the public key? What's wrong with a key server? Is there a public server for the GPG public keys? GPG keys are compatible with the OpenPGP standard. If you ever decide to RTFM the GPG manual, you will see: .. --send-keys [names] Same as --export but sends the keys to a key server. Option --keyserver must be used to give the name of this keyserver. Don't send your com plete keyring to a keyserver - select only those keys which are new or changed by you. .. --recv-keys key IDs Import the keys with the given key IDs from a HKP keyserver. Option --keyserver must be used to give the name of this keyserver. Hope this helps. Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun to release StarOffice as GPL
Hi, I have found a link on /. to the following article on ZDNet: http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2604174,00.html It seems, Sun will release StarOffice under the GNU Public license "later this summer" (Sun's words). I wonder how easy or hard will it be to hack the open sourced version of StarOffice to decently support Hebrew. Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
acces right
high I have RedHat6.1 I am trying to channge the acces right of /proc/filesysytems with chmod command even I used chmod -V ,and I saw itchanged when Ichecked with ls -l I saw nothig changed any suggestions:) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiserFS for NFS, Mandrake7.1, RH6.2, etc.
You Wrote: Oh, I read that quotation when it was published. It is a simple statistics-based interpretation, and not something fair to base judgement on. These 8 vulnerabilities were not Mandrake's (but shared for all the Linuxes), and most of them are not dangerous for people with the "paranoid" configuration mode. In this spesific case the statistics don't lie. For instance - the userhelper problem (basically - userhelper didn't check that pam modules are from inside /etc/pam.d , which gave a very easy local root exploit) was discovered a while after mandrake 6.1 was out, but was not officially fixed until after a couple of monthes mandrake 7.0 was out. IIRC a corrected package was availble at mandrake-cooker, but anyway - it was never anounced. snip Here is what Kurt Seifried had to say this week: qoute Wow! I seem to have made some people at Mandrake software a little unhappy with last week's comments (ya think!) Let me just say that I have nothing against the Linux Mandrake distribution itself -- I think it's ok. What I have a problem with is the way Mandrake Software (the company) handles updates, security announcements and a few other odds and ends. It isn't enough to build a finely engineered software product. You also have to issue updates and in the case of an OS it is critical that customers are told about security updates and made to understand that if they do not update, bad things[tm] will happen. I feel that the updates issued by a vendor are an integral part of the OS, not some nice altruistic service they might be willing to provide customers. This is why I gave the Linux Mandrake distribution a "failing" grade. My main two issues with Mandrake are the lack of a central, Mandrake run ftp server (i.e something like updates.redhat.com). Instead, they rely on third party mirrors that may or may not be working properly (and over which they have no control). The other main issue I have is with the poor quality of their security announcements. Users need to be explicitly told where to find updates and how to implement them. Now Mandrake has largely fixed this issue, with two new advisories on Sunday (for DHCP and WuFTPD). They tell you where to find them, and how to update them. This makes me happy. Congratulations to Mandrake! /qoute The qoute was taken from http://securityportal.com/topnews/weekly/linux2703.html Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PPP only succedes the 2nd time
That Makes two of us :-) Yosi I though that i am the only person eating this shit. Best Regards Evgeny Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiserFS for NFS, Mandrake7.1, RH6.2, etc.
You Wrote: Last thing: There is an Axiom that RH is better for servers while Mandrake is better for clients. But from my humble opinion, I see the opposite, at least with the latest versions (MD7.1 vs. RH6.2): Mandrake supports features which are important for servers (e.g. ReiserFS, Paranoid security, etc.), while RH looks better for clients (e.g. easier installation, office apps, etc.). Am I wrong? Please don't start religious wars; I am not looking for religious wars either. But, imho, RH security is better than Mandrake's. Their latest installation (6.2) doesn't install so much stuff as the previous versions, and most importantly they issue security patches much faster than Mandrake. Kurt Seifried from SecurityPortal.com wrote qoute "Mandrake also wins (hands down) the "easiest distribution to break into remotely" and "easiest distribution to break into locally", having finally released 8 fixes for very severe security bugs in 7.1 (their latest, not so greatest distribution). They still haven't got a central site for updates either, good luck finding them. /qoute The qoute can be found here: http://www.securityportal.com/topnews/weekly/linux2626.html Regarding the "Paranoid Security" you mentioned, it can be reached on RH as well with products such as Bastille, that was designed to run on virgin installation (http://www.bastille-linux.org/) in the first place. Just my $0.02, so don't shoot if you disagree :) Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiserFS for NFS, Mandrake7.1, RH6.2, etc.
You wrote: Thank you all, Yosi, Tzafrir, Oleg, Ira, Chen, and Izar. You're welcome. I wish I could use a distro ready with special security patches (maybe KRUD?). Ohhh, but you can. I did not include this in my previous reply because I thought it is irrelevant to your question. There is actually a distribution that comes ready with special security patches called Immunix (http://www.immunix.org/). ImmunixOS is based on RedHat's latest distribution. ImmunixOS is made of RedHat's rpms compiled with Immunix's StackGuard utility that is supposed to add an additional layer of protection against buffer overflows and the like. In the future, Immunix promise to add support in the form of SubDomain and CryptoMark (a TripWire clone?). I don't have any experience with this distribution, but I will be more than interested to hear anyone who does. However, Bastille is not relevant: 1. There is no Bastille for 6.2, but only for 6.0/6.1. Yes, you are right. Bastille only comes for RedHat 6.0 and 6.1 Too bad the Bastille developers cannot issue their version closer to the date the new RedHat distribution is out. In addition, it is not easy to patch existing kernels with the secure-linux patches, because usually these kernels (especially RH and Mandrake) already contain many other patches, and are already different from the original Linus kernel. It is always better to get the kernel ready from the vendor, with all the patches already built-in, and the conflicts already resolved. Yet another reason to have a look at Immunix. Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recovery problem
Hi, I have a problem that I can't seem to trace it's origin. Whenever my system is uncleanly powered off ( power failure for example ), next time it boots up, I find a lot of files in /home/lost+found. I know that the OS checks itself after the filesystem was not cleanly unmounted. The thing that puzzles me is why do I find the files in /home/lost+found *each and every time*. On my previous linux box (pentium 200MHz with 64MB RAM) this never happened. The old system would boot, check the filesystem, fix some i-nodes, and that would be it. lost+found would always stay empty. However, on my current machine (Athlon 650MHz + 256MB RAM) lost+found always gets filled with data. This leads me to 2 possible scenarios: 1. Since my RAM is quite large it means more memory buffers are allocated which imply less disk sync. And this, incase of a crash, can lead to the problems I experience. 2. I am using Hedrick's ide patch (can be found at: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/ ) for the kenrel (2.2.15) to support ATA66. Maybe the patch is to blame? I am backing-up my machine periodically, so I never lost everything important, but this is stil a pain... Does anyone have some other ideas of what might cause this behaviour or fixes (other than UPS or JFS :)? Anyone else has uses the mentioned patch? TIA, Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TCP/IP and Port scan loggers
Hi, I am looking for an port logger, that can identify remote scans (for example, when I'm being scanned with nmap and the likes). I heard about PortsEntry and IPLogger, but don't have any experience with neither of them. Can you recommend of a logger? TIA, Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT]:Book Review
Hi, I recently found out about the book "Building Linux and Openbsd Firewalls" by Wes Sonnenreich, Tom Yates (ISBN 0471353663). Did anyone read or read a review about it? And speaking of OpenBSD, do you know of any other good books that teach how to build firewalls on OpenBSD? TIA, Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNU Pgp.
From: Alex Dukhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GNU Pgp. Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:24:51 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [132.65.16.10] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBAE119C300AAD820F3968441100AEC730; Tue May 09 01:39:45 2000 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.16.10])by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.10 #1)id 12p5O5-0005k3-00; Tue, 09 May 2000 11:29:05 +0300 Received: with LISTAR (v0.124a; list linux-il); Tue, 09 May 2000 11:28:03 +300 (IDT) Received: from iglu.inter.net.il ([192.116.202.69])by cs.huji.ac.il with smtp (Exim 3.10 #1)id 12p5N4-0005jq-00for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 09 May 2000 11:28:02 +0300 Received: (qmail 5169 invoked by uid 107); 9 May 2000 08:27:48 - Received: (qmail 5167 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 08:27:48 - Received: from unknown (HELO gandalf.nrt.co.il) (194.90.217.250) by iglu.inter.net.il with SMTP; 9 May 2000 08:27:48 - Received: by mail.versaware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)id KJD8X737; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:24:52 +0300 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 09 01:41:37 2000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Does anyone know if GNU PGP provide PKI ? You mean GnuPG (Gnu Privacy Guard). And as far as I recally, no it doesn't. Other link on free PKI will also be useful. Thanks for your answers. Maybe FreeS/WAN provides a PKI. Or at least that was one of it's goals. Have a look at http://www.freeswan.org Yosi - In God We Trust. All others must submit an X.509 certificate. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS support
Hi, I am trying to compile nfs (client) support into my kernel (2.2.14). However, when I am trying to do "depmod -a", this is what I get: [root@yosi linux-2.2.14]# depmod -ae depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.14/fs/lockd.o depmod: do_lockdctl For the time being, I just compiled it into the kernel, and that seems to work. However, this is a temporary solution, because I need it as a module, outside the kernel. Any ideas? tia, Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
If you must code in C, at least use the safe routines in glib (for example g_strdup_sprintf) rather then using unsafe functions such as sprintf. This might be not feasible if you need to write portable code (nor will be snprintf(), which is non-standard, IIRC). You need to get into the habit of putting checks in your code to prevent buffer overflows. To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. Speaking of snprintf (and strncpy and strncat for that matter), it seems that these functions have two major prolbems: 1. Big time penalty, and 2. Weired behaviour. That is why, as far as string functions manipulations go, it is recommended to use the functions that are used in OpenBSD, namely strlcpy(3) and strlcat(3). Read more about it at the "Secure-Programming" HOWTO. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
Buffer ovrflow is one of the most common security bugs in software.
Hoever, imho, relying on such tools as Lucent's library is not a good
methodology. A programmer must be security-oriented when writing code. In
the "Secure-Programming HOWTO", it says that "Paranoia is a virtue". That
is, the programmer's role is more than just compile his code with a library
that is supposed to defend his code from buffer overflows. He must audit his
code for potential hazards, and write the code in such a way, that buffer
overflows and other security
issues won't happen in the first place. Lucent's library is a welcome
addition to a set of tools that already exists in the Linux world
(StackGuard and StackShield are just two examples). However, they
must not be relied on to provide total security.
Yosi
P.S
Speaking of StackGuard, here is a recent post I found on BugTraq that
compares Lucent's library to StackGuard:
JEFF PFOHL wrote:
Does anyone know anything about this?
http://www.bell-labs.com/org/11356/html/security.html
Solar Designer has posted his analysis to the Linux security-audit
mailing list
http://www2.merton.ox.ac.uk/~security/security-audit-24/0069.html
Perry Wagle (principle StackGuard developer, cc'd) has written an
analysis comparing StackGuard to libsafe (attached). The summary is
as follows:
* Use StackGuard where you can, because it is safer:
o Libsafe only wraps selected string library functions. Buffer
overflows affecting other library functions or user-written
loops will not be protected
o Libsafe attempts to wrap these functions by parsing the
stack, but it doesn't always succeed. In particular, libsafe
depends on the existance of the frame pointer, and fails when
it isn't present, as happens if the code was compiled with
-fno_fp, or if the optimizer removed the frame pointer.
* Use Libsafe where you cannot use StackGuard, i.e. for
binary-only applications.
My further comment on libsafe: the paper that the authors will be
presenting at USENIX in June presents two forms of defense ("library
intercept" and binary-rewrite (BRW)) and only the library intercept
appears to be embodied in the publicly available libsafe, which is
why libsafe only protects against overflows that use particular
string library functions.
The BRW method is a pseudo-compiler that can transform binaries into
"safe" programs by transforming the binary. It copies program onto
the heap, inserting checks as it goes. The copy-to-the-heap is to
make space for the additional checks. I really like the BRW method,
and hope it becomes available.
If my understanding is mistaken, and BRW is actually in the
distributed libsafe, please correct me.
Crispin
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Re: gtkbidi rpms
* make libfribidi a shared library. I just couldn't figure how to set this in the configure script. I don't think it's possible from configure. I actually think it can be done. Just have a look at one of the many GNOME source rpms, or even the glibc source rpm. Just do: gcc allobjectfiles.o ... -o libfribidi.so --shared (that should work, methinks) I think you should also use -fPIC, and then your makefile has to worry about the "so" name, after compilation. * Write an autoconf script for gtkbiditext Ouch, what for? I manually removed it and rewrote as a simple Makefile. Is there a real need for a configure script? Because, it is much easier to hack around in a source rpm that has a makefile generated when it is built, rather than unpack the sources that come with the source rpm, hack the makefile, and then re-pack it. Why hack with the makefile in the first place, you ask? Well there are several reasons. Personally, I prefer compiling the rpms with special optimizaitons for the specific platform I am running the binary on, to get speed improvments. hth, Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux FireWall on a 486: A Guard-Penguin For Your DSL Or Cable Modem Connection
Hi, It seems that Internet via cables and DSL is just around the corner. I think this article will interest any security conscious person who will have his computer permanently connected to the net: http://www.zdnet.com/zdhelp/stories/main/0,5594,2503199,00.html Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: KDE and Solaris
Hi, This is a some what off topic question, but here goes: Does anyone on the list know where can I find binary packages of KDE for Solaris? Thanks, Yosi P.S packages for "joe" and "less" are also more than welcome. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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l-icq
hi last week I installed RedHat 6.0(I am a real babe) I download the l-icq as an rpm but when I try to install that package I am getting "not a rpm "message any ideas:) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which distribution
Hello, Let me start by stating that I do not want to start a flame war here, arguing which distribution is better. Instead, I am looking for opinions and backed up answers. I have bought a new Athlon computer and I am not sure which distribution should I install - RedHat 6.1 (or 6.2 for that matter) or Mandrake 7.0 (I have outrulled the rest of the existing distributions out of various reasons). These are the factors that I find most important in the distribution I am looking for: 1. basic security of the distribution, default security settings and so forth. For example, I know that Mandrake let's you choose the security level of the of the OS during installation. 2. How fast does the manufacturer issues patches to security expolits from the moment they have become publicly known. 3. This is specific to Mandrake - I know that Mandrake optimize their packages for Pentium (they claim up to 30% speed ups). Will these optimized packages cause any problems when executed on an AMD Athlon cpu? Thanks in advance, Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maximum Linux security
Hi List, I heard about a new books (that is supposed to be rather worth reading) called "Maximum Linux security" by Anonymous. Has anyone on the list read it, and care to give his/her useful comments? Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.2.14
Have a look here: http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/relnotes.2214.html Yosi From: "Nir Simionovich \(Rin Solo\)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kernel 2.2.14 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:55:52 +0200 (IST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [132.65.16.10] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBA4CA42300A9D820F3EC8441100ACC470; Mon Jan 17 10:02:27 2000 Received: from cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.16.10])by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.10 #1)id 12AGPW-00032W-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:57:50 +0200 Received: with LISTAR (v0.124a; list linux-il); Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:56:48 +200 (IST) Received: from taragon.tcltek.co.il ([204.141.46.18])by cs.huji.ac.il with smtp (Exim 3.10 #1)id 12AGOU-000329-00for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:56:47 +0200 Received: (qmail 15095 invoked by uid 508); 17 Jan 2000 17:56:04 - Received: (qmail 15092 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 17:56:03 - Received: from vipe.technion.ac.il (132.68.8.42) by taragon.tcltek.co.il with SMTP; 17 Jan 2000 17:56:03 - Received: (qmail 22743 invoked by uid 526); 17 Jan 2000 17:55:52 - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 17 10:03:22 2000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-listar-version: Listar v0.124a Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-original-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-il Hi All, Did any of you install the 2.2.14 kernel ? is there a security update in it, cause I've been trying to get info on the kernel, and found absolutely none. Best regards, Nir Simionovich --- Hey, check out these Hilarious pictures. http://www.twistedhumor.com/cgi-bin/affiliate/banner.cgi?8290 --- . Technionus Dormus Farmus Administratus Regularus . --- Taub Computer Center, Technion Cellphone:054-898834 The Network Flight Recorder Project Phone: 04-8282741 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager: 058-474747 Admin : vipe, heller, tux, bluf(05437) --- Linux is not an Operating System, It's a way of life - Dare to live it! --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Secure Computing First to Develop Strong Security Platform for Linux
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shutdown security potential problem?
Hi, I am using RH6.0 and have noticed a very strange behaviour of "shutdown": when a local non-root user does "shutdown now", the system will shutdown all services, and switch to single-user root shell. This of course, is quite disturbing since a non-root local user can get root very easily this way. But this is not the end of it! if you are now shouting "/etc/shutdown.allow", it is not the answer! "/etc/shutdonw.allow" is only used when doing "shutdown -a". So my *first* question to the list, is how can I prevent a user from doing a shutdown and gaining root shell? will changing the permissions of /usr/bin/shutdown do it? Furthermore, after RTFMing "shutdown", "consolehelper" and "PAM"'s manuals I have noticed the following things: 1. RH procedure to this whole shutting down process is extremly brain damaged. You have /sbin/shutdown, and you have /usr/bin/shutdown which is actually a link to /usr/bin/consolehelper. Why? what is the difference between /sbin/shutdown and /usr/bin/consolehelper (that /usr/bin/shutdown is linked to)? 2. a user who is logged both locally and remotely to machine can shut it down remotely. In case people share accounts, this can lead to a sort of DoS attack. 3. AFAIK, OpenBSD (*the* securest os :) and SuSE do not allow a non-root user to shut down the machine. Why does RH allow it? Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenBSD
Just finished downloading OpenBSD 2.6 (the latest version) for i386, but haven't burned a cd out of it yet. Contact me if you want a copy as well. On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:01:15 +0200 you wrote: Not really linux realated... but if any one got OpenBSD (the latest, i forgot the excact num') and could burn me a copy, plz e-mail me yer address thanx. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: customizing e-mail
Dear Alex (and Netta), Mutt's latest international and domestic versions (in RPM format) can be found at http://mutt.linuxatwork.at/ Please note that versions prior to 1.0 suffered from a buffer overflow bug. Yosi Hi, El-al, Netta! On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 09:56:19AM +0200, you wrote the following: does it come with redhat (5.2, 6, or 6.1). if not where do i get it? RedHat comes with the US version, with all crypto hooks removed. I just looked through rpmfind.net and apparently there is no package for the international version, release 1.0 (there are only packages for pre-releases). That's a shame. So either take the US version or a pre-release of the international one, in any case, it's all on http://rpmfind.net/. -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with su
Does /bin/su on your machine has suid bit set? Hi. Does anyone knows why i keep getting this error when i try to use su ? su: cannot set groups: Not owner What do i need to do in order to fix it ? Thanks ALOT :-) Mike = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Enlightment .16 halts after theme changing
Hi people, Did anyone had a similar problem? I use GNOME+Enlightenment but did not experience the phenomena you describe. I use Enlightenment 0.16.1 (kernel 2.2.13). I just downloaded installed enlightment 0.16 on my standart RH6.0 (2.2.5-15 kernel), several minutes after I am switching theme to Metal (goes with installation .RPM) system absolutly halts. (default theme works ok) I would recommend you download the latest version of enlightenmet which is actually 0.16.1 and see if it fixes your problem. I think I saw something fixed regarding themes, when I read the changelog. Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Browsing C/C++ source code under Linux
I am looking for a good C/C++ code browser, which will offer at least the power and convenience of the MS-Visual C++ code browser. From Web surfing, I saw that there are several code browsers running under Linux. Does anyone have experience with the browsers and can recommend a good one? I am not quite sure I understand what you mean by "code browser". MSVC is an IDE (Integrated Development Enviroment). If you are asking about IDEs, then there are quite a few of them for Linux. Just go to http://linuxapps.com and look at the IDE section. If you are interested in my opinion - I work with CodeCrusader and think it is extremly usefull. However, I prefer DDD as my debugger (actually it's a wrapper to gdb) rather than CodeMedic, that is written by the same person who writes CodeCrusader. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download question
Does anyone know if there is a utility available to continue downloading a large .tar file after losing the ppp connection and reconnecting ? I'm using Netscape 5.1 - RedHat 6.0. wget is your best bet. Hey it even rhymes. Yosi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rumors
Have a look here: http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19990929S0015 Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why there's nothing about this rumor in Slashdot, but it is rumorred that RedHat 6.1 will be announced next week (I guess that the availability will not be immediate). The strange thing is that Bob Young (CEO of RedHat) said in an interview a few days ago that "6.1. is a few months from now"; It is possible that he said that in order to avoid cancels of orders of customers who wait for the new 6.1. But there is also the issue of GNOME. According to another rumor, the next major version (1.0.50) is soon, and I was always sure that 6.1 would include it. So how can they release 6.1 before 1.0.50 is available ??? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unix Security
Hi, I am looking for good book(s) that discuss Unix (not specifically Linux) security. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Yosi, __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Protecting Linux
I would like to use Udi's question to point out a security extension for Linux kernels (2.2.x and 2.0.x) that offers some interesting features such as restricted Linx and FIFOs in /tmp, non-executable user stack area and more. The addon can be found at: http://www.openwall.com/linux/ Yosi So far, my machine hadn't been protected, since it wasn't online since I've upgraded to 2.2, but now that I got my ISDN setup working, I would like to protect my machine from bored script kiddies. After seeing the logs on the firewall at work, with an avarage of 1-2 crack attempts/day, I got scared. it's true that most of these were NetBus/BackOrifice trojan checks, but I don't really want to check for the latest security updates all the time. Assuming I don't want to mess with firewall rules, will disabling inetd be enough? I can live without local rlogin/telnet/ftp services. thanks, Udi __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsreader
Hello, I am looking for a newsreader for Linux, and I would be more than grateful if you can recommend me of one. These are the things that I need in a newsreader (from the most important to the least): 1. GPL 2. Secure. I don't like Java/JavaScript/JScript/ActiveX or all the rest of these things. The less built-in support the newsreader has for these things - the better. I don't need "smart" newsreaders displaying html code inside posts either. 3. support threading. 4. support for PGP. 5. In text mode. Anyone who sees a resemblence between these specifications and Mutt, is right :) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
