Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Alon Weinstein
guy keren wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I have a (couple of) client(s) that have performance problems across linux distirbutions. That is - they try an operation on a given platform with a given (redhat both cases) distribution, and get a certain performance. Then they try

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Alon Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And another question, for the uninitiated (that's me) -- when I try to output $LD_LIBRARY_PATH I get nothing. How can I find out what are the default libraries used by the system? cat /etc/ld.so.conf See also man 8 ldconfig man 8 ld.so -- Oleg

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:21:27AM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: That's a very interesting thread I'm wondering -- would I gain a performance boost by making my RH9 always use /lib/i686 instead of /lib/tls? Possibly, due to a bug in RH 9's NPTL implementation, IIRC. And another

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:21:27AM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: [snip] And another question, for the uninitiated (that's me) -- when I try to output $LD_LIBRARY_PATH I get nothing. How can I find out what are the default libraries used by the system? RTFM - man ld.so . Basically

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Alon Weinstein
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:21:27AM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: cat /etc/ld.so.conf, assuming it hasn't been changed since the last time someone ran ldconfig. Looking at /etc/ld.so.conf: /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt-3.1/lib

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003, Alon Weinstein wrote about Re: Various performance problems: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg30749.html (summary - nadav harel, checks why hspell on redhat 9 runs several times slower then on redhat 7.something, and finds that changing

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people have such short memories: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg30749.html From memory (thanks for reminding, Guy), someone (Mulix?) found this (I just found it on my own, but it does ring a bell) http://kerneltrap.org/comment/reply/1574

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Erez Kirson
Perhaps you can try http://www.linuxtested.com/linux_tools.html -EK - Original Message - From: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Various performance problems Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread guy keren
On 16 Dec 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people have such short memories: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg30749.html From memory (thanks for reminding, Guy), someone (Mulix?) found this (I just found it on my own, but it does ring a

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread guy keren
On 16 Dec 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://kerneltrap.org/comment/reply/1574 Note that Ulrich Drepper says there that Fedora Core 1 and RHEL3 should not have the problem. Shachar says that RHAS3 is slow - question is, whether or not that

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Aaron wrote: I in fact noticed in RH 9.0 hspell and aspell were locking up my system. I was running a lowlatency kernel but found that jack and ardour were slow. I am now running Fedora, in kde and gnome window minimize slowly and maximize slowly. Programs lockup and

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread linux-il
guy keren wrote: did you _read_ the mentioned post(s)? they give you a direction regarding what to try doing. try running the problematic program using: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 program parameters... read the posts for the exact command - i might be typing it wrong here, and i have no RH9 to test

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that's not what he was writing. he said that the benchmark should be perfrmed on one of those systems. he didn't say these systems contained the NPTL code from CVS head. get yourself one of those systems, and test. Sorry, misattributed. Linus did test

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:42:49AM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: I'm guessing that TLS (thread local storage, NOT transport layer security) Is there any work to remove this name clash? -- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003, Shaul Karl wrote about Re: Various performance problems: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:42:49AM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: I'm guessing that TLS (thread local storage, NOT transport layer security) Is there any work to remove this name clash? Yes, the Thread

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guy keren wrote: did you _read_ the mentioned post(s)? they give you a direction regarding what to try doing. try running the problematic program using: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 program parameters... read the posts for the exact

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that's not what he was writing. he said that the benchmark should be perfrmed on one of those systems. he didn't say these systems contained the NPTL code from CVS head. get yourself one of those systems, and

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread guy keren
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Alon Weinstein wrote: Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:21:27AM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: cat /etc/ld.so.conf, assuming it hasn't been changed since the last time someone ran ldconfig. Looking at /etc/ld.so.conf: /usr/kerberos/lib

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:23:45AM +0200, guy keren wrote: you will need to set the 'LD_ASSUME_KERNEL' variable very early during system boot - that will make _most_ processes launched with the non-tls libraries. however, the 'init' process, is launched before any of the system's

Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi list, I have a (couple of) client(s) that have performance problems across linux distirbutions. That is - they try an operation on a given platform with a given (redhat both cases) distribution, and get a certain performance. Then they try the same operation on the same hardware with a

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: b. Occasionally, I get a system thatresponds slow, but aside from a high load average, there seems to be nothing wrong with it. CPU is idle most of the time, etc. Any ideas how I can find out what and why is going on? I'd look for: - I/O bound

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:39:35PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi list, Hi Shachar, good questions! I'm curious what others will answer. Here are some comments from me. In one case, the fast distro is RedHat 7.2, and the slow one is 9. In another I'm not sure what the fast one is, but the

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Noam Meltzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is not the 1st time that I hear that RedHat9 is slower than earlier ver. I think that I read somewhere that the DMA of the HD is turned off in RedHat9, but maybe i'm just fantasyzing. I tried googling a little (but i don't have a lot of time right

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Alex Vinokur
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] The questions: a. Does anyone have a recommended benchmarking tool? I found this page (http://lbs.sourceforge.net/), but I'd really rather not start messing around with each and every one of those until I find

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a. Does anyone have a recommended benchmarking tool? I found this page (http://lbs.sourceforge.net/), but I'd really rather not start messing around with each and every one of those until I find the one I like. If anyone here has prior experience, I'd

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I have a (couple of) client(s) that have performance problems across linux distirbutions. That is - they try an operation on a given platform with a given (redhat both cases) distribution, and get a certain performance. Then they try the same

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Voguemaster
I must say, from my own experience with RH9, it is actually much faster than my old distro (7.3). My educated guess is as good as any but it doesn't *feel* like a kernel problem (hehe, yes I am a Zen master :). I might be tempted to look into the standard C library or any other general component

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Aaron
I in fact noticed in RH 9.0 hspell and aspell were locking up my system. I was running a lowlatency kernel but found that jack and ardour were slow. I am now running Fedora, in kde and gnome window minimize slowly and maximize slowly. Programs lock up and apt-get takes over to the point where my

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:47:12AM +0200, Aaron wrote: I in fact noticed in RH 9.0 hspell and aspell were locking up my system. I was running a lowlatency kernel but found that jack and ardour were slow. I am now running Fedora, in kde and gnome window minimize slowly and maximize slowly.

Re: Various performance problems

2003-12-15 Thread Aaron
This is what I used. /sbin/hdparm -c 3 -d 1 -m 16 -A1 /dev/hda Aaron you ever sleep? Aa hdparm -v /dev/hda Or more specifically: hdparm -d /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word