Re: In defense of C# and Java

2003-06-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:00:45AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: Aaahm. I use Abiword extensively (1.9.something beta) and I love it, but while faster then anything else (Especially OO...) it's unacceptably slow on my laptop. (P366/256/icewm) This is contrary to my own exprince with Abiword

Re: Hebrew client for AS400

2003-06-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:38:04PM +0300, Henry Ficher wrote: Hi People! I'm looking for a way to use Linux terminals to telnet to an AS400 and be able to use Hebrew. Anybody's done this before? Looking at the character sets submenu of my x3270 terminal I see a Hebrew (cp424) item. Never

Re: kde

2003-06-26 Thread nyh
Text1On Tue, Jun 24, 2003, Ely Levy wrote about Re: kde: I think it can be done using aspell, they are still stalling the prefix suffix support but if someone would help them add it, it won't be too hard to write a module for aspell that uses hspell's logic/wordlist Aspell is not likely to

Re: kde

2003-06-26 Thread nyh
Text1On Tue, Jun 24, 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: kde: it guessed right only ð'ð ð'ðððð'ðð)ðð'ððÏðð'ððð, even ð'ðððð'ðððð'ðð)ðð'ðð)ðð'ðð ðð'ððð it did not guess (the closest I got was ð'ðððð'ðððð'ðð)ðð'ðð ðð'ððð) . All the other I got were,

Re: kde

2003-06-26 Thread nyh
Text1On Wed, Jun 25, 2003, Oron Peled wrote about Re: kde: Is there an soundex algorithm for hebrew? If there is than we can precompute soundex values for all dictionary words and store them in some sorted data structure (say, a dbm file). Than we can present all words with same soundex.

Re: In defense of C# and Java

2003-06-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 09:57, Alex Shnitman wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:31, Gilboa Davara wrote: Instead of using this huge amount of computing power to break the software sand-box and take computing to a new level, we waste it on object constructors, virtual function tables, house

Re: Abirword (Was: In defense of C# and Java)

2003-06-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
Try scrolling long MS imported docs... :-( Don't miss-understand me. I love Abiword. It's the best thing since sliced bread. It's much better then koffice/openoffice and MS Word. (OK, anything is better then the latter.) Heck, I'm considering moving all our remaining Windows users to Abiword

[OFFTOPIC] Abstraction layer design (was: Re: C#)

2003-06-26 Thread Omer Zak
On 26 Jun 2003, Gilboa Davara wrote: I do OS abstraction layers for a living (among others) so I know how an efficient underlaying should look like. STL is *far* from that. How should one design an OS abstraction layer, if one wants to have high-quality OS abstraction layer by whatever

Re: Hebrew on Evolution

2003-06-26 Thread Oded Arbel
Ilya Konstantinov wrote: I don't think that gtkhtml will be able to support bidi in the future, so I think the best option we have is that Ximian will decide using Gecko for Evo2, or someone will hack it by itself and send the patches to ximian. I repeat again -- Ximian has the intention to

Re: garbage in man pages

2003-06-26 Thread nyh
Text1On Wed, Jun 25, 2003, Guy Cohen wrote about garbage in man pages: I have a problem with reading man pages on redhat8. some chars are missing and instead I see garbage. The garbage chars replace mostly the - chars infront of options. Any one knows what's the problem? Perhaps Redhat

Re: In defense of C# and Java

2003-06-26 Thread Oded Arbel
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:06:21AM +0300, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: What is it that you people find so evil about Java and .NET? Slightly off-topic: One very practical issue: Both are controlled by companies that limit their usage. Thus none would simply install on

make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Micha Feigin
When I try to configure kernel 2.5.69 using make xconfig under debian unstable I get the error message: * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment variable is set to the correct location. * Anyone

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Abstraction layer design (was: Re: C#)

2003-06-26 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. you are right... it is getting (way) off-topic fast. Here's a stupid question for you: Where's the Hacker-IL mailing list? http://www.iglu.org.il/mailing-lists/hackers-il.html Spared you going to http://www.google.com/search?q=hackers-il -- Oleg

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to configure kernel 2.5.69 using make xconfig under debian unstable I get the error message: * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment

Re: Hebrew client for AS400

2003-06-26 Thread Matitiahu Allouche
CP424 is the Hebrew EBCDIC code page. This is what you need for Hebrew on an AS400 system. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 502Fax: +972 2 5870333

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Oded Arbel
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to configure kernel 2.5.69 using make xconfig under debian unstable I get the error message: * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR

Linux Conference and Installation Party - Summer 2003

2003-06-26 Thread Linux
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Re: Ignorance, FUD or trolling? (Was: What do we REALLY want?)

2003-06-26 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Ilya Konstantinov wrote on 2003-06-26: Regarding Microsoft changing libraries without notice -- Are you generating FUD or spreading FUD you've heard elsewhere? Does the MSDN count or you rely on a Microsoft representative coming to your door to inform you of API changes from MFC 4.2 to MFC

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
Same here. Though I usually use menuconfig instead, I do remember using xconfig on KDE/QT less machines. (Old 486/P/K6...) Weird... very weird. Gilboa On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 14:43, Oded Arbel wrote: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Oded Arbel wrote on 2003-06-26: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to configure kernel 2.5.69 using make xconfig under debian unstable I get the error message: * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since when kernel configuration is dependant on Qt ? I don't remember this being the case, and it sounds really inapropriate to me. Since 2.5.something, and only the graphical configuration kit (make xconfig), AFAIK. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux Conference and Installation Party - Summer 2003

2003-06-26 Thread Eliran Gonen
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Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Lior Kesos
Oded Arbel wrote: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to configure kernel 2.5.69 using make xconfig under debian unstable I get the error message: * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly

system wide settings on KDE

2003-06-26 Thread Arie Folger
Hi, I have a problem with kjots. It automatically becomes wider than the screen, and refuses to be resized. I found out that there is a setting in the kjots config file that specifies the width, and changed it ... to no avail. as soon as I restart kjots, the new value is replaced with the old

Re: Hebrew client for AS400

2003-06-26 Thread Henry Ficher
Thanks to all who replied. Now for the good news: I got it to work using x3270 with a special configuration file for AS/400 that I found googling. It's not perfect, though. For example, some characters are swaped (lamed instead of mem sofit), and the keymap mappings are not exactly intuitive.

Linux Conference and Installation Party - Summer 2003

2003-06-26 Thread Linux
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[ot] gates against spam

2003-06-26 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Yes, Billie is mad, and this time we like it. I know there are some ideas that you will not like, but the main idea is : no more spam. I wish him good luck. http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2670527,00.html -- - diego / ... And remember: if

Re: Linux Conference and Installation Party - Summer 2003

2003-06-26 Thread Ely Levy
same here Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Eliran Gonen wrote: Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The specific date and location to follow soon. I prefer to have a general idea of a date and location before I register...

Message submitted to 'linux-il' (fwd)

2003-06-26 Thread Ely Levy
Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:14:11 +0300 (IDT) From: Listar Mailing List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Message submitted to 'linux-il' This

Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
While working on KDE lately, I came a cross some weird hangs. Mouse won't respond. Keyboard won't respond. NumLock won't respond. Mouse cursor stops spinning (XCursors animated mouse theme) etc, but it seems like the kernel keeps running... My machine acts as an ICS gateway, and people from

Re: Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:30:13PM +0300, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote: While working on KDE lately, I came a cross some weird hangs. Mouse won't respond. Keyboard won't respond. NumLock won't respond. Mouse cursor stops spinning (XCursors animated mouse theme) etc, but it seems like the

Re: Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
lm_sensors up n' running, CPU temp is ok. One again, I dont think that's a hardware lock since the kernel does not crash, it keeps working... Sorry about that... XFree 4.3.0-r2. was bussy checking the release number I forgot to put the major version.. :) In the mean time I've switched to some

netenv not setting the network values

2003-06-26 Thread Micha Feigin
I tried installing netenv on my machine. It gives the startup choosing screen and everything, but afterwards doesn't seem to do anything with the data. The network values I get are those set in the interfaces file. I tried disabling the interfaces file, but that did no good. I looked through the

Re: mutt: Sorting mailbox...Segmentation fault

2003-06-26 Thread Guy Cohen
This is not normal. run: ulimit -c unlimited mutt gdb `which mutt` core and tell what you see. Also upgrade mutt. On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:09:36PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: Afer reading so many of you parising mutt I decided to use it on my brand new RH 9.0 based system. I installed

Re: system wide settings on KDE

2003-06-26 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
kde-config --prefix so do: cd `kde-config --prefix`/share/config - and you're inside the system settings.. Hope this helps, Hetz On Thursday 26 June 2003 13:42, Arie Folger wrote: Hi, I have a problem with kjots. It automatically becomes wider than the screen, and refuses to be resized. I

Re: mutt: Sorting mailbox...Segmentation fault

2003-06-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Guy Cohen wrote: This is not normal. run: ulimit -c unlimited mutt gdb `which mutt` core and tell what you see. I have already deleted the problematic e-mail(s) with conventional mail client and I don't even know which were those but I am nearly sure I'll get

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Micha Feigin
Somewhere in 2.5 there are two graphical configurations I am aware of. There is make xconfig which brings up a qt interface and a make gconfig which brings up a gtk interface. Don't know if there is anything other graphic. I know that make menuconfig still exists. As an extra for my last

Re: [ot] gates against spam

2003-06-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:02:58 +0300 Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Billie is mad, and this time we like it. I know there are some ideas that you will not like, but the main idea is : no more spam. I wish him good luck. Don't be naive, this is just orchestrated: - In

wierd behaviour (was: Re: system wide settings on KDE)

2003-06-26 Thread Noam Meltzer
Hi, I'm a sysadmin in a large network. Recently I was working on upgrading our linuxes. (i chose mdk9.1, and KDE as the desktop env. - please don't start a flame war about it, that's a fact which won't be changed and lot of thinking were behind) anyway, I was preparing a basic KDE configuration,

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
Try changing: ConfigItem** ip = (ConfigItem*)menu-data; To: ConfigItem **ip = (ConfigItem**)menu-data; Both should work... I've got no idea why GCC will shout on this one. Gilboa On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:01, Micha Feigin wrote: Somewhere in 2.5 there are two graphical configurations I am aware

Re: wierd behaviour (was: Re: system wide settings on KDE)

2003-06-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:29:25PM +0300, Noam Meltzer wrote: Hi, I'm a sysadmin in a large network. Recently I was working on upgrading our linuxes. (i chose mdk9.1, and KDE as the desktop env. - please don't start a flame war about it, that's a fact which won't be changed and lot of

Re: Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
Get lm_sensors working and check the CPU's temperature. My guess, your machine overheat and crashes. If you're past 60c, you're in trouble. My dual Athlon XP1900 machine will hardlock once the CPU passes the 58c mark. Gilboa On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 21:30, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote: While

Re: Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Diego Iastrubni
mine after war3 games in windows98 gets 62 and works fine. However I am seeing the same in linux. , 26 2003, 21:39, Gilboa Davara : Get lm_sensors working and check the CPU's temperature. My guess, your machine overheat and crashes. If you're past 60c, you're in trouble. My dual Athlon

Re: wierd behaviour (was: Re: system wide settings on KDE)

2003-06-26 Thread Noam Meltzer
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 21:23, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:29:25PM +0300, Noam Meltzer wrote: Hi, I'm a sysadmin in a large network. Recently I was working on upgrading our linuxes. (i chose mdk9.1, and KDE as the desktop env. - please don't start a flame war about it,

RAM

2003-06-26 Thread kirson
Hi If a server has 10GB RAM ( talking about 32bit arch ) and each user is loading a heavy compile that uses 2GB RAM , if4 users compile simultaneous how will the kernel/system react ? Will the kernel be able to give each user a 2GB User-Space? Erez

Re: RAM

2003-06-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
kirson wrote: Hi If a server has 10GB RAM ( talking about 32bit arch ) and each user is loading a heavy compile that uses 2GB RAM , if 4 users compile simultaneous how will the kernel/system react ? Will the kernel be able to give each user a 2GB User-Space? Erez It depends on how

Re: Hebrew on Evolution

2003-06-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Thursday 26 June 2003 12:05, Oded Arbel wrote: Ilya Konstantinov wrote: I don't think that gtkhtml will be able to support bidi in the future, so I think the best option we have is that Ximian will decide using Gecko for Evo2, or someone will hack it by itself and send the patches to

Re: make xconfig for kernel 2.5.69 fails

2003-06-26 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:43:21PM +0300, Oded Arbel wrote: Since when kernel configuration is dependant on Qt ? I don't remember this being the case, and it sounds really inapropriate to me. 2.5 change. 'make gconfig' for gtk. 'make menuconfig', and more importantly, 'make oldconfig'

Re: Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:30:13PM +0300, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote: While working on KDE lately, I came a cross some weird hangs. Mouse won't respond. Keyboard won't respond. NumLock won't respond. Mouse cursor stops spinning (XCursors animated mouse theme) etc, but it seems like the

Re: Hangs

2003-06-26 Thread Gilboa Davara
.. Don't rule out hardware yet. Are you using aggressive memory timing? (Gigabyte calls it Optimal performance.). Try lowing it to normal. You memory modules may be over-heating. (I had the same problem on a couple of GA-7VAXPs running Windows 2K/XP and Linux). Second... you can change the AGP

Re: mutt: Sorting mailbox...Segmentation fault

2003-06-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
As expected the crash continoues to happen. It seems now, that is not even a specific message. Now it happens when I try to move beyond the screen on the index page. It happens when I try to move out of the screen by the Up or Down arrows and also when I type the number of a message which is