Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Wednesday June 14 2006 00:16, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And that goes to show that flash attracts flash :-)... I am sorry, I use FC4 on x86_64 on my home machine, and flash is one thing that is repelled because there is no x86_86 player for Linux... ;-) Installing a 32-bit version of flash player (and w32codecs, for the good company) on x86_64 FC machine is two hours of pure dependency hell, but nonetheless a feasible task. I've done that about 4 months ago, and I doubt something changed drastically since then. -- Sincerely Yours, Michael Vasiliev The day after tomorrow is the third day of the rest of your life. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Marc A. Volovic: I use Xen with Debian (woody, sarge and etch) with not problem whatsoever. The dom0 is etch, domUs are a mix, all very very small (sub 60MB). That is - xen 2.4. All my attempts to build xen 3 so far fail - I can not seem to be able to build a xenU kernel correctly. G working it, working it. Have not tried to yet. Xen itself is easy, though. Just do apt-get install xen-utils-3.0 Question for the Xen gurus here. If I have a VT enabled Intel CPU, how much extra performance (if any) would running a para-virtualization Linux give over running a standard kernel? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:20:20AM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Marc A. Volovic: I use Xen with Debian (woody, sarge and etch) with not problem whatsoever. The dom0 is etch, domUs are a mix, all very very small (sub 60MB). That is - xen 2.4. All my attempts to build xen 3 so far fail - I can not seem to be able to build a xenU kernel correctly. G working it, working it. More details please... with xen3 we switched to a single kernel for both dom0 and domU, the -xen kernel. Are you passing 'KERNELS=...-domU' perchance? I wouldn't expect that to work. Cheers, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:12:44AM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: More details please... with xen3 we switched to a single kernel for both dom0 and domU, the -xen kernel. Are you passing 'KERNELS=...-domU' perchance? I wouldn't expect that to work. Duh! I am. Haha. Very funny. Ogg not smart. Grr Ok, making an alternative test, then. Ok, since I hit it in one, here's another gotcha free of charge - with the -xen kernel you're highly likely to need an initrd in dom0. -xen has the same .config you'd expect from a distro kernel, with almost everything modular. The old -xen0 kernel was much more developer friendly with the common chipsets and file systems built in, so no initrd wa necessary. Cheers, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: Ok, since I hit it in one, here's another gotcha free of charge - with I looked at the docs, thought - hmmm... no xen0 and xenU, weird, let's look at the Makefile... Ah - here they are, the references to xenU and xen0, everything is as it used to be... Hehe. Thanks! the -xen kernel you're highly likely to need an initrd in dom0. -xen has the same .config you'd expect from a distro kernel, with almost everything modular. The old -xen0 kernel was much more developer friendly with the common chipsets and file systems built in, so no initrd wa necessary. Not super problematic - I usually go through the .config as Mr. B Chemelnitcki used to go through a shteitl - modify pretty much everything. I am highly initrd-anti. Normal procedure, for me, is to create a rather fat monolythic kernel. I am willing to pay the piper in domain0. -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 06:00:39PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. Since when has this ever stopped a customer from actually using it in exactly that capacity. I heard a talk at USENIX last week[1] where Pixar's VP of Technology mentioned that their new movie Cars was rendered on a farm of x86-64 Linux machines running ... you guessed it .. Fedora Core. Wich one? FC2 and FC3 were quite good, but FC4 is a big pile of crap. I can't say anything about FC5, for after my bad experiences with FC4 on production servers I switched to CentOS 4.3, and so far I'm not looking back. Cheers, Henry = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: More details please... with xen3 we switched to a single kernel for both dom0 and domU, the -xen kernel. Are you passing Unsurprisingly whatsoever, it bloody works. Why do I bother reading Makefiles is beyond me. Attached is the kernel config I am using which works quite well. This thing runs Debian etch/sid quite well. If anyone wants a still-functional install of etch or of sid for a xen machine, please tell me. The former is some 300MB and the latter is some 200MB uncompressed disk images. M -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # Linux kernel version: 2.6.16.13-xen # Wed Jun 14 09:41:10 2006 # CONFIG_X86_32=y CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y CONFIG_DMI=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32 # # General setup # CONFIG_LOCALVERSION= # CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_SYSCTL=y # CONFIG_AUDIT is not set CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y # CONFIG_CPUSETS is not set CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE= CONFIG_UID16=y CONFIG_VM86=y # CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y CONFIG_PRINTK=y CONFIG_BUG=y CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_SHMEM=y CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_FUNCTIONS=0 CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_LABELS=0 CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_LOOPS=0 CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_JUMPS=0 CONFIG_SLAB=y # CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0 # CONFIG_SLOB is not set # # Loadable module support # # CONFIG_MODULES is not set CONFIG_STOP_MACHINE=y # # Block layer # CONFIG_LBD=y # # IO Schedulers # CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y CONFIG_DEFAULT_AS=y # CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEADLINE is not set # CONFIG_DEFAULT_CFQ is not set # CONFIG_DEFAULT_NOOP is not set CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED=anticipatory # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_X86_PC is not set CONFIG_X86_XEN=y # CONFIG_X86_ELAN is not set # CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set # CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set # CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set # CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set # CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set CONFIG_M686=y # CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MEFFICEON is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MGEODEGX1 is not set # CONFIG_MGEODE_LX is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERIC is not set CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG64=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_TSC=y CONFIG_SMP=y CONFIG_SMP_ALTERNATIVES=y CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8 CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y # CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL=y CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set # CONFIG_X86_REBOOTFIXUPS is not set # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set CONFIG_SWIOTLB=y # # Firmware Drivers # CONFIG_DELL_RBU=y CONFIG_DCDBAS=y # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G=y # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G_OPT is not set # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_2G is not set # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_1G is not set CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET=0xC000 CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y # CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set CONFIG_FLATMEM=y CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC is not set CONFIG_SPLIT_PTLOCK_CPUS=4096 # CONFIG_MTRR is not set # CONFIG_REGPARM is not set CONFIG_SECCOMP=y CONFIG_HZ_100=y # CONFIG_HZ_250 is not set # CONFIG_HZ_1000 is not set CONFIG_HZ=100 # CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP is not set CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START=0x10 CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y # # Power management options (ACPI, APM) # CONFIG_PM=y # # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=y CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY=y
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoting Ira Abramov, from the post of Tue, 13 Jun: also rsync pulls files at a crappy 15-20KB per second from the host to the guest, which is a really low speed. no iptables, AFAIK no traffic shaping. what am I missing?! oh, for completeness: VMwareTools are installed, I am working with the vmnet KM, and I did look for answers on google... still am. -- Where's my geisha at? Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Ira Abramov: Today I installed a similar setup on a faster machine, host is FC4, Not that I am casting the first stone, but anyone using FC as a production machine should have his orchideae removed. guest is RHEL4, and the speed is frightfully slow. I thought I had an NFS problem but check out flood ping timings: 890 packets transmitted, 890 received, 0% packet loss, time 14469ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.000/0.107/1.263/0.178 ms Numbers for flood ping are not that meaningful - so the machine can live with interrupts and ICMP. Time using TCP? Ftp push? Ftp pull? Http pull? etc. Also - what is the hardware diff between old slow host and new fast host? Should not cause such a drastic effect, but go figure. Just for the heck of it, push large ICMP packets (i.e. ping -s, aka ping of death). I rather suspect the memory bus and its effect on vmware (esp. should vmware knows not the machine). FC4 delenda est. M -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Ira Abramov: Today I installed a similar setup on a faster machine, host is FC4, Not that I am casting the first stone, but anyone using FC as a production machine should have his orchideae removed. I wrote an email saying the same thing (although the word orchideae was missing from it for some reason ;-) and then decided Ira knew better already. The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. Cheers, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codefidence. A name you can trust(tm) Web: http://codefidence.com | SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IL: +972.3.7515563 ext. 201 | Fax:+972.3.7515503 US: +1.212.2026643 ext. 201 | Cel: +972.52.8260388 The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single oy. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In defence of Ire [was: Re: VMware guest net problems?]
Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Ira Abramov: Today I installed a similar setup on a faster machine, host is FC4, Not that I am casting the first stone, but anyone using FC as a production machine should have his orchideae removed. The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. Hello, mein kinder. While both Gilad and yours truly are indubitably and inalienably right, it is often that clients in their infinite (the hands - they have a life of their own and will not type wisdom) perversity will ask for such wonderful contraptions as RTAI kernel running in RedHat 7.2 distribution with Mozilla 1.5 backported into it, the whole thing shouldred a-la the Tokya Underground at 7am into a 16MB NAND flash running with a proprietary driver (Gilad - we know the culprits, do we not?)... What should the indie, the consultant, the Gitche Manitou of the right solution, do in such a case? Shove the right thing down the client's gullet (I did that, it is very trying to shove a 48-node cluster down ANYONE's gullet and, truth be told, not very hygienic)? Let the client blithfully trundle towards his/her/its doom? Lie outright, say you do this, do the other? What? Jonathan? Gilad? Gil? Shahar? Oron? Danny? Lior? Marc! -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Signatures [was: Re: VMware guest net problems?]
Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single oy. And it continues with numerous other pitiful cries, groans, ejaculations and grimaces! -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 06:00:39PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. Since when has this ever stopped a customer from actually using it in exactly that capacity. I heard a talk at USENIX last week[1] where Pixar's VP of Technology mentioned that their new movie Cars was rendered on a farm of x86-64 Linux machines running ... you guessed it .. Fedora Core. [1] http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix06/tech/tech.html#fri (look for 'Pixar') Cheers, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: Pixar's VP of Technology mentioned that their new movie Cars was rendered on a farm of x86-64 Linux machines running ... you guessed it ... Fedora Core. And that goes to show that flash attracts flash :-)... Speaking of which - whoever among you people is responsible for Xen's build system should be compelled to use FC. M -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 13 Jun: Not that I am casting the first stone, but anyone using FC as a production machine should have his orchideae removed. The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. calm down, will you? it's not a production machine, it's a developper workstation I got to set up a virtual cluster on and do QA. I should ask for a Centos next time I suppose. However, it still won't explain how the net link between my host and my guest was a puny 20KB/sec, less than half of my cable uplink at home! the solution was of course to make-do with a QD solution, being mkisofs and mounting it via the VMWARE CD device. still it didn't solve the fact that other things had to be NFS-accessable. The solution was amazingly simple. the client gave me two dual-Xeons to install the cluster on. They beat VMware every time (unless size, speed, noise, price and power consumption are taken into account) still curious, but already in different stage in the project, Ira. -- A piece of work Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 06:41:37PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: Speaking of which - whoever among you people is responsible for Xen's build system should be compelled to use FC. That would be the Cambridge folks. They've proven remarkably resistant to attempts to fix it. Cheers, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In defence of Ire [was: Re: VMware guest net problems?]
Suppose your eyesight is failing you and you are going to a clinic to have your eyes fixed by laser. If they find that you have retinal degradation in your eyes, you deny this and insist upon getting laser - what should an ethical clinic do? Should this answer be any different if the clinic are donating 20% of their income to hungry children in Darfur, Sudan? My opinion: If your client is insisting upon a solution which is, according to your professional opinion, wrong - you should explain to the client and turn down the assignment, as ordered by the client. Be careful to do this only after listening to the client and familiarizing yourself with all considrations your client had while selecting the solution. Then, when negotiating with the next client, tell him how you turned down a lucrative contract which was going to violate your professional integrity, and explain how your professional integrity will help the new client make more money from your work than from your competitors' work. --- Omer On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 18:18 +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: Marc A. Volovic wrote: Quoth Ira Abramov: Today I installed a similar setup on a faster machine, host is FC4, Not that I am casting the first stone, but anyone using FC as a production machine should have his orchideae removed. The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. Hello, mein kinder. While both Gilad and yours truly are indubitably and inalienably right, it is often that clients in their infinite (the hands - they have a life of their own and will not type wisdom) perversity will ask for such wonderful contraptions as RTAI kernel running in RedHat 7.2 distribution with Mozilla 1.5 backported into it, the whole thing shouldred a-la the Tokya Underground at 7am into a 16MB NAND flash running with a proprietary driver (Gilad - we know the culprits, do we not?)... What should the indie, the consultant, the Gitche Manitou of the right solution, do in such a case? Shove the right thing down the client's gullet (I did that, it is very trying to shove a 48-node cluster down ANYONE's gullet and, truth be told, not very hygienic)? Let the client blithfully trundle towards his/her/its doom? Lie outright, say you do this, do the other? What? Jonathan? Gilad? Gil? Shahar? Oron? Danny? Lior? Marc! -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://tddpirate.livejournal.com/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: Marc A. Volovic wrote: I wrote an email saying the same thing (although the word orchideae was missing from it for some reason ;-) and then decided Ira knew better already. Must have been an oversight. I know (by dint of deduction) that you 'havem. The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. All fedora cores are such by design. and Ira's clients should be weaned away from that frightful mishmash of eye candy and stucco carefully erected and secured by the agency of dried saliva. In short - Ira - you wanna use something stable, get RHEL, get SLES, get CGD. M -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Tuesday, 13 בJune 2006 18:33, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 06:00:39PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: The Fedora Core line is a non production distribution *by design*. I heard a talk at USENIX last week[1] where Pixar's VP of Technology mentioned that their new movie Cars was rendered on a farm of x86-64 Linux machines running ... you guessed it .. Fedora Core. That's a match made in heaven -- the movies timing coincides with FC release cycle. Simply reformat disks and kickstart install the FC-6 isos for the next movie ;-) From a happy FC user (aside from obvious gripes about yum madness). -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 If it's there and you can see it, it's REAL If it's there and you can't see it, it's TRANSPARENT If it's not there and you can see it, it's VIRTUAL If it's not there and you can't see it, it's GONE! To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On 6/13/06, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 13 Jun: However, it still won't explain how the net link between my host and my guest was a puny 20KB/sec, less than half of my cable uplink at home! What NIC do you use? What driver? What does ethtool say? Is the switch smart enough to report to report error? Might seem self evident, but did you check different cables or ports? the solution was of course to make-do with a QD solution, being mkisofs and mounting it via the VMWARE CD device. still it didn't solve the fact that other things had to be NFS-accessable. The solution was amazingly simple. the client gave me two dual-Xeons to install the cluster on. They beat VMware every time (unless size, speed, noise, price and power consumption are taken into account) still curious, but already in different stage in the project, Ira. -- A piece of work Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gil Freund, Systems Analyst --- Sysnet consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-54-2035888, Fax: +972-8-9356026 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And that goes to show that flash attracts flash :-)... I am sorry, I use FC4 on x86_64 on my home machine, and flash is one thing that is repelled because there is no x86_86 player for Linux... ;-) Speaking of which - whoever among you people is responsible for Xen's build system should be compelled to use FC. I will not defend the Xen build system, but FC is one of the platforms (RHEL is another) that Xen can actually live with. So far I cannot say the same about, say, SuSE (never heard of anyone who managed to have a working network in a SuSE domU - has anyone here made this work?) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goldshmidt.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoting Gil Freund, from the post of Tue, 13 Jun: However, it still won't explain how the net link between my host and my guest was a puny 20KB/sec, less than half of my cable uplink at home! What NIC do you use? What driver? What does ethtool say? Is the switch smart enough to report to report error? Might seem self evident, but did you check different cables or ports? the nic looks like an AMD, the driver is ofcourse vmxnet from the VMWareTools package, which does not report anything meaningfull to ethtool, nor does it feature an MII API either. and no switch, no cables. it's all trickery in the VMware application. you really should install it once to know what the fuss is about :) -- Very very available Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt: I will not defend the Xen build system, but FC is one of the platforms (RHEL is another) that Xen can actually live with. So far I cannot say the same about, say, SuSE (never heard of anyone who managed to have a working network in a SuSE domU - has anyone here made this work?) I use Xen with Debian (woody, sarge and etch) with not problem whatsoever. The dom0 is etch, domUs are a mix, all very very small (sub 60MB). M -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:16:44AM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: I will not defend the Xen build system, but FC is one of the platforms (RHEL is another) that Xen can actually live with. So far I cannot say the same about, say, SuSE (never heard of anyone who managed to have a working network in a SuSE domU - has anyone here made this work?) Yes. Details offline. SuSE and RHEL are the two major platforms for Xen deployments. Cheers, Muli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VMware guest net problems?
Quoth Marc A. Volovic: I use Xen with Debian (woody, sarge and etch) with not problem whatsoever. The dom0 is etch, domUs are a mix, all very very small (sub 60MB). That is - xen 2.4. All my attempts to build xen 3 so far fail - I can not seem to be able to build a xenU kernel correctly. G working it, working it. -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
