Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-19 Thread Brian C. Lane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/17/09 3:58 PM, Jules Agee wrote: > Are any of you getting better results with another solution? I'm using postfix + amavis + postgray and RBL blocking. I haven't changed anything recently and I get around 10 spams a day in my mailbox. That does

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-19 Thread John Aldrich
On Friday 18 December 2009, Derek Simkowiak wrote: [snip] > For those who responded against TMDA: if I set up a procmail bounce > rule that simply required all email to come with a GPG signature, would > you reject that for the same reasons you reject TMDA? Or would that be > acceptable becau

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Glenn Stone
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:18:30PM -0800, Derek Simkowiak wrote: >I still don't use TMDA, because I'm more on the admin side of the > fence, but in principle I don't see why TDMA couldn't solve the spam > problem TMDA (a) violates the principle of least surprise *on both sides*. If I se

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Derek Simkowiak
Derek> I've been tempted to use TMDA... UGH! I *abhore* those things! > ...they do nothing to actually stop spam... > If you install TMDA or its ilk, you won't receive email from me... LOL! Why do people get so emotional about this? ...[Admins] are among the most intractable group I

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Jules Agee
Kurt Buff wrote: > I use Maia Mailguard, and have few complaints about it. It uses > spamassassin underneath the covers, but the web interface allows much > better control for the users. > > Also, do you get regular updates of rules and such? Yes, but the rule updates don't seem to help much. I m

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Foster
Jules Agee wrote: I'm getting more complaints lately from users on my network about spam. Investigating the complaints reveals they get between five or ten per day on average. This is about what I expect in my own inbox, and I don't mind because it's a lot better than it used to be. But it seems

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Glenn Stone
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:07:11AM -0800, Dave Dennis wrote: >But ymmv, one thing I've learned in six years of working with local >administrators is they are among the most intractable group I've run >across. By all means your C/R works, not like those other ones, and >whoever listed you is wrong.

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Dave Dennis
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Glenn Stone wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 06:22:37AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: > >On Friday 18 December 2009, Derek Simkowiak wrote: > >> I've been tempted to use TMDA: > >> > >> http://tmda.net/ > >> > >> With TMDA, new email senders get a "Are you really a human?

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread Glenn Stone
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 06:22:37AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote: >On Friday 18 December 2009, Derek Simkowiak wrote: >> I've been tempted to use TMDA: >> >> http://tmda.net/ >> >> With TMDA, new email senders get a "Are you really a human?" >> >UGH! I *abhore* those things! I will not use t

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread John Aldrich
On Friday 18 December 2009, Derek Simkowiak wrote: > I've been using Postfix w/postgrey + spamassassin (via amavisd) + > RBL lists + SMTP sender verification. > > My email address is very old, and I use a few aliases, so I still > get ~40 spams per day. Thunderbird's Bayesian filtering ca

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-18 Thread John Aldrich
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Jules Agee wrote: > I'm getting more complaints lately from users on my network about spam. > Investigating the complaints reveals they get between five or ten per > day on average. This is about what I expect in my own inbox, and I don't > mind because it's a lot bett

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-17 Thread Derek Simkowiak
I've been using Postfix w/postgrey + spamassassin (via amavisd) + RBL lists + SMTP sender verification. My email address is very old, and I use a few aliases, so I still get ~40 spams per day. Thunderbird's Bayesian filtering catches ~98% of those that get to my Inbox. I've looked

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-17 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 15:58, Jules Agee wrote: > I'm getting more complaints lately from users on my network about spam. > Investigating the complaints reveals they get between five or ten per > day on average. This is about what I expect in my own inbox, and I don't > mind because it's a lot be

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-17 Thread Jules Agee
Andrew Sweger wrote: > I'm seeing over 99% of messages (anywhere between 10k and 40k per day) > being blocked at the smtp connection using client restrictions and > spamhaus.org RBL (postfix + postgrey). I ran across too many false positives when I tried client restrictions in test mode. :-( > I

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-17 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 15:58 -0800, Jules Agee wrote: > Are any of you getting better results with another solution? I got tired of the fight and gave my personal domain to google apps, so now google is my mail admin and I see far far less spam. So does my wife, which means I no longer get the com

Re: [SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Sweger
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Jules Agee wrote: > Right now I'm using postgrey and spamassassin. According to my server > logs, internet MXs make about 1.5 million connections to our server per > week. 90% of those are blocked by greylisting, about 4% are tagged by > SpamAssassin, and the remaining 6% are

[SLL] What are you using for spam control?

2009-12-17 Thread Jules Agee
I'm getting more complaints lately from users on my network about spam. Investigating the complaints reveals they get between five or ten per day on average. This is about what I expect in my own inbox, and I don't mind because it's a lot better than it used to be. But it seems like people have hi