Re: Mantis – anyone?

2009-12-07 Thread Matthias Wächter
Hi Manu,

Just to give you some feedback on the first issue as well:

Am 06.12.2009 13:52, schrieb Matthias Wächter:
> • Can’t lock to 19.2/11303h (looks like something new, related to the
> change of the transponder’s feed, but other cards – e.g. TBS 6920 and
> Tevii 470 – do sync without a problem). Looks like a frontend issue to
> me (STB0899/STB6100), as mantis and budget-ci cards are affected in the
> same way. This correlates with perfect and quick lock of 19.2/11362h
> which is about the same frequency and has the same DVB parameters
> (22000/hC23M5O35S1).

One guy on vdrportal.de tried his card under Windows, and he can there
lock to that transponder. He tells that locking took quite some time,
though, and it appears that transponder shows unexpected low signal
strength, but I would take that with a grain of salt as it might be
different frontend handling and value scaling.

– Matthias
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Re: Mantis – anyone?

2009-12-07 Thread Matthias Wächter
Manu,

Am 06.12.2009 13:52, schrieb Matthias Wächter:
> • Sometimes very slow lock at transponder change, slow enough to trace
> it in femon. femon first shows high BER rates and the picture is blocky,
> reducing within 3 or 4 Seconds to BER=0 and perfect picture. I should be
> able to repeat that and give you some logs if you need it.
> 
> • Sometimes lock to a transponder only in certain order of previous
> transponder. Hard to formalize, though. Verbose module output shows 1 to
> 2 unsuccessful locking attempts per second by the driver.

> • Currently no lock on 19.2/12693h either, but this may be a signal
> quality issue on my side.

After playing some more, I think those are all related: Lock to a
transponder takes from <1 second to minutes, and sometimes I was not
patient enough to wait for the lock to finally happen.

The no-lock on 19.2°/11303h does not seem to be related to that.

– Matthias
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Re: Mantis – anyone?

2009-12-06 Thread Matthias Wächter
Manu,

Thanks for taking care.

> Please try http://jusst.de/hg/v4l-dvb
> and report the issues

It looks as if dependencies and frontends are not in line.

• dependencies for my card’s relevant frontends STB0899, STB6100, and
LNBP21 are missing from Kconfig,
• dependency for CU1216 is in, but frontend driver source missing. It’s
neither in my kernel 2.6.32 sources nor in linuxtv’s v4l-dvb.

So, mantis_core is automatically selected and compiled, hopper too, but
not mantis.

Worked around it by adding/replacing the dependencies (in fact, removing
the dependency for CU1216 should have enabled build of mantis).

Remaining issues for me:

• Can’t lock to 19.2/11303h (looks like something new, related to the
change of the transponder’s feed, but other cards – e.g. TBS 6920 and
Tevii 470 – do sync without a problem). Looks like a frontend issue to
me (STB0899/STB6100), as mantis and budget-ci cards are affected in the
same way. This correlates with perfect and quick lock of 19.2/11362h
which is about the same frequency and has the same DVB parameters
(22000/hC23M5O35S1).

• Sometimes very slow lock at transponder change, slow enough to trace
it in femon. femon first shows high BER rates and the picture is blocky,
reducing within 3 or 4 Seconds to BER=0 and perfect picture. I should be
able to repeat that and give you some logs if you need it.

• Sometimes lock to a transponder only in certain order of previous
transponder. Hard to formalize, though. Verbose module output shows 1 to
2 unsuccessful locking attempts per second by the driver.

• Still no 0x-0x SNR and STR range.

• Currently no lock on 19.2/12693h either, but this may be a signal
quality issue on my side.

• Have not yet tried it with two mantis cards in a system, but there was
a problem at least with ci handling in such a setup using s2-liplianin
for a friend of mine. Will test that next week.

• Have not tried IR (I use a radio RCU with lirc).

– Matthias
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Re: Mantis – anyone?

2009-12-04 Thread Manu Abraham
2009/11/26 Matthias Wächter :
> I am now playing around with the available code for quite some time now
> with mixed success, but no solution comes near the term “stable”.
>
> • kernel: nothing in there. Well, reasonable.
> • v4l-dvb: nothing in there.
> • s2-liplianin: mantis available, but obviously not under
> development/bugfixing. IR seems to work, CI handling looks quite broken,
> hangups/lockups are the rule, additional problems with more than one of
> these cards in the system.
> • mantis-v4l: does not compile out of the box for recent kernels. When
> hand-knitting the files into a kernel source directory (2.6.31), works
> quite unstable, module reloading frequently segfaults. IR does not work
> (at least for VDR), CI handling looks better than s2-liplianin.
>
> Conclusion: Stability is way below a level for reasonable usage while
> bug fixing.
>
> [1] gives an overview of the current state of (non-)development. Does
> this still apply?
>
> My questions are:
>
> • Is there someone feeling responsible for that baby?
> • What is the main part of the mantis stuff not working – mantis itself,
> the frontend, or adaptions from multiproto to s2api?
> • What can someone owning some of these cards (one Terratec, two
> Technisat) do to help the (former) authors to continue their work?
> • Is there some documentation available which would enable ‘the
> community’ to work on that further?

Please try http://jusst.de/hg/v4l-dvb
and report the issues

Regards,
Manu
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Mantis – anyone?

2009-11-26 Thread Matthias Wächter
I am now playing around with the available code for quite some time now
with mixed success, but no solution comes near the term “stable”.

• kernel: nothing in there. Well, reasonable.
• v4l-dvb: nothing in there.
• s2-liplianin: mantis available, but obviously not under
development/bugfixing. IR seems to work, CI handling looks quite broken,
hangups/lockups are the rule, additional problems with more than one of
these cards in the system.
• mantis-v4l: does not compile out of the box for recent kernels. When
hand-knitting the files into a kernel source directory (2.6.31), works
quite unstable, module reloading frequently segfaults. IR does not work
(at least for VDR), CI handling looks better than s2-liplianin.

Conclusion: Stability is way below a level for reasonable usage while
bug fixing.

[1] gives an overview of the current state of (non-)development. Does
this still apply?

My questions are:

• Is there someone feeling responsible for that baby?
• What is the main part of the mantis stuff not working – mantis itself,
the frontend, or adaptions from multiproto to s2api?
• What can someone owning some of these cards (one Terratec, two
Technisat) do to help the (former) authors to continue their work?
• Is there some documentation available which would enable ‘the
community’ to work on that further?

Cheers,
– Matthias

1:
http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Azurewave_AD_SP400_CI_%28VP-1041%29#Drivers
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