Re: Graphics tablets

2002-09-19 Thread David A. Mann
Vik Olliver wrote: I'd like to get a graphic tablet, and of course it'll have to work under Linux. Has anyone managed to get anything like that going? I have a Wacom Intuos 4x5, USB interface. I can get it running in mouse- mode with GPM but I never got it to work in X. X talks to it but

Re: KMail pst files converting to LOTD.

2002-09-19 Thread David A. Mann
Keith McGavin wrote: the enlightenment OSX type theme you are thinking of is probably the AQUA Say hello to imac theme that was mentioned in the multihead X thread that was posted last month. Yes, the Aqua theme for Enlightenment. One prog that is also useful is the 'Esetroot'

C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Maillist
Hi, I though I would find out the CLUGs opinion of which is better C or C++. I am thinking of learning a lower level programming language. I know many higher level languages such as C#, VB and PHP and some others but am trying to decide which language I should learn next. I know the

Re: Mandrake SNF - quick question

2002-09-19 Thread Zane Gilmore
Does your machine have a bios that puts the it into a sleep mode when there has been no keyboard or mouse activity for a while? I had a similar problem with an old Digital PC that I set up as a server that would mysteriously stop working. If that is the problem you will have to get into the

Re: Gui problem in Redhat 7.3

2002-09-19 Thread Bill Evans
Thanks Zane Nick Rout suggested that too. Where can I do that in Linux? There was no conflict in Windows. Would one appear in Linux? Any way, searching for the IRQ information I found the file which seems to be at the centre of the problem. /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 #

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
C++ definately, but learning Java might be more useful, at the end of the day it's just another language and when you know one OOP language you can switch pretty easily. jeremyb. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/09/20 Fri PM 09:14:01 GMT+12:00 To: linux user group [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Tim Wright
It's a diffucult question that's gonna depend on what you want to do with them. I'll echo Jeremy's comment that c++ is just another O-O language and once you've learnt one it's pretty much just syntax differences between them (hmm...that's not quite true, but good enough). However, I disagree

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Yuri de Groot
I've dabbled in both, but wouldn't call myself a serious programmer. The main thing is to get used to thinking of C and C++ as two completely distinct languages. Don't be tempted to think of C++ as a version of C. I teach-yourself-C++ book I have stresses that C++ can be harder to learn for

Re: Re: KMail pst files converting to LOTD.

2002-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
I'll have a go at doing some screendumps of one of my machines at work, they basically look a lot like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=153-1.jpg Haven't figured out how to do the colours on the sliders yet, mine are still the default ones... Does anyone know how to put

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Michael JasonSmith
(Caveat: I don't know much C++) On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 07:36, Tim Wright wrote: Additionally, C's memory management is pretty bloody awful to use. True. But you learn a lot about memory management in the process, and that is not a bad goal in itself. Yes, C is the basis for almost every other

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Carl Cerecke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I though I would find out the CLUGs opinion of which is better C or C++. I am thinking of learning a lower level programming language. I know many higher level languages such as C#, VB and PHP and some others but am trying to decide which language I should

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Carl Cerecke wrote: IMO, C++ should never have been invented. This comment is interesting. OK I'll bite. Why ? Now it is true that many purists will balk at some C++ design decisions but when I've read the Stroustrup book I've got the distinct feeling that some features

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Carl Cerecke
Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: I'll second this. C and C++ are worlds apart: C- functional programming (paradigm of the '70-es ?) C is *imperative* style language Haskell is *functional* style language Prolog is logical Java is OOP C++ - OOP (paradigm of the '90-es) C++ is a (lousy) mix of

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Carl Cerecke wrote: Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: I'll second this. C and C++ are worlds apart: C- functional programming (paradigm of the '70-es ?) C is *imperative* style language Haskell is *functional* style language Prolog is logical Java is OOP Doh! Sorry

RE: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Guy Steven
If you are familiar with oop, there is nothing to stop you adopting an oo approach to your C programming. The use of pointers to functions and structures make it relatively simple to adopt an oo style to your programming. Guy Steven. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Tim Wright
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Carl Cerecke wrote: the odd niche here and there. There is at least one other major language style, programming by example, I think. Tim Wright knows more about that I think. mmm, *at least* one other programming style. Programming by Example and Programming by

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread stringer
At 10:38 20/09/02 +1200, you wrote: Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: I'll second this. C and C++ are worlds apart: C- functional programming (paradigm of the '70-es ?) C is *imperative* style language Haskell is *functional* style language Prolog is logical Java is OOP C++ - OOP (paradigm of

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Zane Gilmore
rant They use COBOL because the old timer that still work there still use it and there is already a lot of code that still works written in COBOL. This is not because COBOL is the best language for the job but because that's what they've always used. There are heaps of better languages. Sorry

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Tim Wright
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Zane Gilmore wrote: This is not because COBOL is the best language for the job but because that's what they've always used. There are heaps of better languages. Here's where I agree with Zane...not that that's unusual :) I've actually worked with a couple of companies

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Zane Gilmore wrote: [...] Sorry I had to say that as it is an issue here where I work. I had to learn COBOL and it is *not* easy, quick and reliable,... it's crap compared to a modern language. You have my deepest sympathy :-) I've heard that it was the 2nd or 3rd

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Michael JasonSmith
Just to muddy the waters I've always wanted to learn Objective-C, which was invented at around the same time as C++ with a similar goal in mind. It never took off outside the NeXT [read MacOS X] system, but it looks like a far cleaner language. Objective-C could have been adopted as the main

BTTV

2002-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Fellow tv card dudes, anyone got a Dynalink TView running on a stock 2.4.18 kernel? dmesg gives me errors about the tuner type, so I figure I need to change some settings etc, rather than re-invent the wheel anyone been down this path? jeremyb.

Re: BTTV

2002-09-19 Thread Simon Hansman
Yep, have one myself. Here's how I load it.. in modules.autoload (this is in gentoo, so probably just modules in other distros), you need to first load the tuner module, and set its type to 5 (PAL). Then you can load the bttv module. I.e.: tuner type=5 bttv this works fine for me...just make

Re: Re: BTTV

2002-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Coolness, thanks Simon!! From: Simon Hansman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/09/20 Fri PM 01:35:30 GMT+12:00 To: Jeremy Bertenshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BTTV Yep, have one myself. Here's how I load it.. in modules.autoload (this is in gentoo, so probably

Sound cards...

2002-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
I've got two sound cards in my pc, onboard i810 (crap) and an ISA AWE64, any way other than switching the sound-slot aliasing around in modules.conf to use the awe as the primary? also where is the volume control in kde? jeremyb.

Re: Sound cards...

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Fisher
I found sound adjustments at programsmultimediaaudio mixer On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 13:50, Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: I've got two sound cards in my pc, onboard i810 (crap) and an ISA AWE64, any way other than switching the sound-slot aliasing around in modules.conf to use the awe as the

VCD Burning

2002-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Whose using what for burning VCD's? my dvd player plays cdrw vcd's and it's quite cool being able to turn bits of my music video collection (.mpg / .avi) into vcd's, Nero (windows) had a nice vcd mode where you could dump files on it and it's do all the vcd creating for you, the files are already

Re: C or C++?

2002-09-19 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 10:38:08AM +1200, Carl Cerecke wrote: Haskell is *functional* style language Prolog is logical They both rock :) Haskell especially. One cool thing about prolog, is the ability to solve complex problems in usually less than 5-10 lines. Hmm.. might have to go dig out