Re: rpm -ra

2002-06-24 Thread Keith Antoine
On Monday 24 June 2002 09:43 am, Myles Green enshrined in prose: On June 23, 2002 04:28 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: when using this command to make from a tar file what is the correct syntax ? I used it as rpm -ra xine-lib-0.9.12.tar.gz and it told me that the arguments were wrong. That's

Practical limit to PATH statement length?

2002-06-24 Thread James McDonald
all, Just wondering if linux has an upper limit to the $PATH length... Have been installing apps in /usr/local/app_name and PATH is becoming a war and peace book. Thanks -- James McDonald MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I Registered Linux User #209832

Re: Practical limit to PATH statement length?

2002-06-24 Thread Kurt Wall
Also sprach James McDonald: all, Just wondering if linux has an upper limit to the $PATH length... Have been installing apps in /usr/local/app_name and PATH is becoming a war and peace book. There is, but it's something like 1024 or 2048 characters. To shorten PATH, you can create

Re: Cups help

2002-06-24 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
Lonnie No, It had been working and started giving me problems about a month ago. This weekend, I reinstalled the latest version of cups from tar chkinstall. The startup script says it started the damon and the status says not started. A check of the log indicates a bind failure. Did log

RE: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Schmeits, Roger
http://www.amavis.org/ Can I layer Spamassassin on top of that yet? Just started on a similiar project. From what I can tell -- yes. Will also be running spamassassin. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp
On Sunday 23 June 2002 10:21 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: I have yet to find anywhere in the bible that says thou shalt give xx% of your yearly earnings to GOD JMHO A couple of quick references ... Lev 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the

Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp
Thanks for the pointers to mailscanner and amavis.org. I'll check them out. Are these free av products as prompt thorough about updating virus definitions as, say, Norton McAfee? Seems like it would be a nearly impossible job without significant full-time staff. Michael On Sunday 23 June

Re: Linux: Live Kernel Upgrades - KernelTrap

2002-06-24 Thread Net Llama!
What would open a securtiy hole?? I still don't follow you. On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: I glanced over it until the later part which was beyond me. I just worried that it would open another security hole... definitely not smoking anything special. Net Llama! wrote: I'll 2nd

Re: Practical limit to PATH statement length?

2002-06-24 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Kurt Wall wrote: Also sprach James McDonald: all, Just wondering if linux has an upper limit to the $PATH length... Have been installing apps in /usr/local/app_name and PATH is becoming a war and peace book. There is, but it's something like 1024 or 2048

Re: Cups help

2002-06-24 Thread Net Llama!
Sorry, you got me stumped. I've never used CUPS, so i really don't have much to go on here. On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Lonnie No, It had been working and started giving me problems about a month ago. This weekend, I reinstalled the latest version of cups from tar

Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Gerry Doris
Thanks for the pointers to mailscanner and amavis.org. I'll check them out. Are these free av products as prompt thorough about updating virus definitions as, say, Norton McAfee? Seems like it would be a nearly impossible job without significant full-time staff. Michael Mailscanner

Re: Can't access printer - Never mind

2002-06-24 Thread edj
On Sun June 23 2002 02:36 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Care to elaborate how, so that others might benefit in the future? edj wrote: Sorry to have posted. Solved with lpadmin. /etc/cups/printers.conf had AllowUser All. I thought that was good enough. After many vain attempts at reconfiguring,

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I was under the impression that this was supposed to be a firewall box. My apologies. You probably want to do that using subinterfaces, although I'm not quite sure what it's gaining you. I assume that the NAT router is an appliance, like a LinkSys DSL router or somesuch, correct? You don't

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew Carpenter
This, along with the efforts to erradicate religeon from the world, is probably why so many are willing to off themselves. Oops. I forgot. I'm already over my quota for participating in controversial conversation for the month. My bad. On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:03:35 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I must admit that back in the 16th century the Catholic church was pretty opportunistic with it's power... This turned the Dark Ages darker. It certainly didn't give God a good name, especially in recent years... almost like in the 70's, Amway distributors went door-to-door in the US and were

Re: Can't access printer - Never mind

2002-06-24 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
I see that CUPS has user vs. system defaults. Maybe a user default was set that, unless explicitly set in a global setting, is overriding the settings for each user. Some menu items have 'Set as user default' and some just 'Set as default'. I am convinced that this duality of settings caused me

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp
On Monday 24 June 2002 09:18 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I must admit that back in the 16th century the Catholic church was pretty opportunistic with it's power... This turned the Dark Ages darker. It certainly didn't give God a good name, especially in recent years... almost like in the

Re: Virus Scanning for Linux Email Downloader

2002-06-24 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the pointers to mailscanner and amavis.org. I'll check them out. Are these free av products as prompt thorough about updating virus definitions as, say, Norton McAfee? Seems like it would be a

Re: Cups help

2002-06-24 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
Thanks Lonnie -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp
Correct. I'm trying to avoid turning this box into a firewall/router. Especially since I already have the router (a LinkSys). The subinterface looks like the way to go. How best to read up on it? It's easy to tell the router to send inbound connection attempts to a particular addr or port on

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Lee
I don't think all religions are simply tools to control the ignorant. Certainly, religous belief provides sentient creatures with a rationale to continue their existence. Joel I think. Therefore I am! - famous French philosopher, devisor of analytical geometry, and developer of the

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Ted Ozolins
On June 24, 2002 07:37 am, Michael Hipp wrote: SNIP But don't try to explain any of that to someone who has decided Religion is just bad and that Amway is a scam/cult/pyramid. Michael Quite true. Its unfortunate that the messengers have twisted the message to suit their greed. Having said

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I'm not sure what you need to read up on What I've told you is basically the generic Linux information. As stated, each distro either does or doesn't do sub-interfaces using their own GUI tools, but finding docs on that would be specific to your distro. I am not sure about WebMin. That

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew Carpenter
AFter thinking about it some more, try a google search for sub-interface linux or IP Alias linux. Also, if you search at TLDP.org, it will turn up at least one match. On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:46:49 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks like the way to go. How best to read up on it?

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Matthew Carpenter
There is none so blind as he who will not see (I'd like to teach the world to sing). A couple years ago, this was akin to trying to explain to a West-Michigan business that Linux was the way to go. They had made up their mind, probably from some Windows magazine, that it was a fad which

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp
On Monday 24 June 2002 10:50 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: The Scientific-Method is an important guideline, but through logical analysis is reduced to a good method to approach learning, not the answers to all questions. To think otherwise would be ludicrous since it one would have to then

RE: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
I have yet to find anywhere in the bible that says thou shalt give xx% of your yearly earnings to GOD JMHO A couple of quick references ... Lev 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Michael Hipp
On Monday 24 June 2002 11:38 am, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: But *so* open to interpretation. When asked about taxes Jesus is quoted as saying, Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's. This tells me that money goes to the government and faith goes to God. Doesn't

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Lee
Matthew Carpenter wrote: You may think, but there are certainly those who am and don't. We are by default are like sheep. It takes concerted effort to turn that gray-matter into a thinking machine, and unfortunately there are not many in this age which will do so. Unfortunately, the

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Joel Hammer
Reading Will Durant's big multivolume history, he spends a lot of time (about two volumes) on the Age of Voltaire and Rousseau and Revolution. There was no shortage of French intellectuals who distained religion, and worked hard to undermine it and make humanism (whatever that is) the center of

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Joel Hammer
People often point to the Holocaust as a way to criticize Christians. In the case of the Holocaust, religion WASN'T the motive. The point was to get rid of the Jews, who had much money and power in the European world circa 1930. Hitler was afraid of the Jews because of their power. I don't recall

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Lee
Joel Hammer wrote: People often point to the Holocaust as a way to criticize Christians. In the case of the Holocaust, religion WASN'T the motive. The point was to get rid of the Jews, who had much money and power in the European world circa 1930. Hitler was afraid of the Jews because of

Re: Cups help

2002-06-24 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:29:21 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:46:56 -0500 begin Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Lonnie No, It had been working and started giving me problems about a month ago. This weekend, I

Re: Practical limit to PATH statement length?

2002-06-24 Thread James McDonald
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:21, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Kurt Wall wrote: Also sprach James McDonald: all, Just wondering if linux has an upper limit to the $PATH length... Have been installing apps in /usr/local/app_name and PATH is becoming a war and peace book.

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Collins
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:45:12 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading Will Durant's big multivolume history, [ lots snipped ] The nrxt week was: False Gods of the 21st Century - Democracy. Yawn! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo(since 01/01/01) 2.4.18+(ext3)

Re: Slackware 8.1 experiences

2002-06-24 Thread Ken Moffat
Collins wrote: Over the weekend I put up Slackware 8.1 and ran for a couple of days. Pretty uneventful experience. The only real drawback is that they don't package Sylpheed, but at least they do offer Xfce. A few notes: 1) Slackware is still stuck in the Lilo world (some would say right

Re: Slackware 8.1 experiences

2002-06-24 Thread Collins
[ snips ] On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:21:06 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins wrote: Over the weekend I put up Slackware 8.1 and ran for a couple of days. 2) I couldn't get the precompiled kernel to recognize my ethernet card even after loading tulip, so I had to move over my

Re: Slackware 8.1 experiences

2002-06-24 Thread Ken Moffat
Collins wrote: Good luck with Slack. Thanks. I have 2 cdroms , one a dvd, and one a cd-rw. The dvd is hooked up for music cds, but I can't seem to make it work in Slack yet. I may give gentoo a try after hearing you raving lately about it.

Re: Slackware 8.1 experiences

2002-06-24 Thread Collins
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:09:37 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins wrote: Good luck with Slack. Thanks. I have 2 cdroms , one a dvd, and one a cd-rw. The dvd is hooked up for music cds, but I can't seem to make it work in Slack yet. I may give gentoo a try after

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Mike Chambers
Enough of the religious shit already, if I wanted to hear bout that stuff, I'd go to church. Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Net Llama!
Ahmen to that. Mike Chambers wrote: Enough of the religious shit already, if I wanted to hear bout that stuff, I'd go to church. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step

Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread stayler
Hi Guys, I know that some of you have been down this road so I am curious what you may've done to do so. How did you get this thing installed? The boot and root disks require syslinux and nasm to be created, the iso is not even bootable, from any source I've been able to find. What is the

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread Collins
[ snips ] On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:35:20 -0700 (PDT) stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I know that some of you have been down this road so I am curious what you may've done to do so. How did you get this thing installed? The boot and root disks require syslinux and nasm to be

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread Collins
[ snip ] On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:35:20 -0700 (PDT) stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, What is the deal with everything changing with this distro? Is this a trend or is it a slack only phenomena? I see alot of posting on the web with others who are having similar difficulties.

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread Ken Moffat
stayler wrote: Hi Guys, I know that some of you have been down this road so I am curious what you may've done to do so. How did you get this thing installed? The boot and root disks require syslinux and nasm to be created, the iso is not even bootable, from any source I've been able to find.

spam-assassin sxs

2002-06-24 Thread m.w.chang
I have writen a few paragraphs, but was so afraid to submit it. here it goes for a peer review first. -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org Configuration Procmail for SpamAssasin I would assumed you or your

Re: spam-assassin sxs

2002-06-24 Thread m.w.chang
sorry.. used the wrong file extension. -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org BConfiguration Procmail for SpamAssasin/B I would assumed you or your distribution installed procmail and sendmail properly. Fire up

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread stayler
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:50:27 -0600, Collins wrote: All I did was download the ISO (1 hour plus on cable, YMMV with dialup) from I forget which mirror, use cdrecord to burn a cd, prep my partitions (Slack is not my only distro), boot up the cd, and install. Nothing could be simpler. Of course,

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread stayler
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:59:09 -0700, Ken Moffat wrote: I booted the iso and it installed. I had to switch to a newer system. My other MB is apparently too old to support this new bootable format. stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread stayler
Apparently, The bootdisks and rootdisks provided by slack are no longer image files, ie you use dd to creat them. They require some serious machinations to work. I have a friend who is having a serious time with this issue stayler On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:57:37 -0600, Collins wrote: A

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
I pay homage to Trimuph the Wonder Dog. the one true supreme being On Monday 24 June 2002 11:34 am, Michael Hipp wrote: On Monday 24 June 2002 10:50 am, Matthew Carpenter wrote: The Scientific-Method is an important guideline, but through logical analysis is reduced to a good method to

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-24 Thread Jack Berger
I like the 9:30 am service better, easier to stay awake. Saved?? - probably not... -jhb- From: Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] you mean you dont attend 8am mass each morning?!? how ever do you expect to be saved? On Monday 24 June 2002 09:42 pm, Mike Chambers wrote: Enough of the

Re: Slackware 8.1

2002-06-24 Thread Myles Green
On June 24, 2002 10:56 pm, stayler wrote: Apparently, The bootdisks and rootdisks provided by slack are no longer image files, ie you use dd to creat them. They require some serious machinations to work. I have a friend who is having a serious time with this issue huh? dd if=bare.i