Re: ADMINISTRIVIA

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:24:58 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:51:43 +0100 > Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:23 -0500 (EST) > > Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtze

Re: ADMINISTRIVIA

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:33:18 -0500 Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Roger Oberholtzer spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > > > > I can dream, can't I? > > you and me both. unfortunately, there's a lot we can't do becaus

Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

I recommend dismantling NASA until they can find a replacement for a guy like Wayne Ratiff... Not me, of course... :) Michael Scottaline wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:42 -0800 > Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trus

Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:42 -0800 Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: >Not to denigrate what it takes to be a car racer, but to travel to space I >wouldn't care if it was maintained by idiots. Oh, congress is involved >already. ;-}> = "S

Re: ADMINISTRIVIA

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:51:43 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:23 -0500 (EST) > Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:10:50 -0500 > > > Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: ADMINISTRIVIA

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roger Oberholtzer spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > > I can dream, can't I? you and me both. unfortunately, there's a lot we can't do because of the 'lowest common denominator' among all the mirrors - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at lin

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tasha Smith spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > Hiii...Thank you soo much i really appreciate your patience with me. > Setting this thing up. I will be hanging around this mailling list soo next > time someone else needs help like me i ca

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tasha Smith spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > Horaaay! It worked :) I started the daemon sweet! enjoy! > *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.0.1: Non-existent domain > *** Default servers are not available this is be

Re: What If?

Feigning erudition, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: % Actually, this sort of points out some fundamental differences between % print and electronic publishers. Print publishers have spent the last % twenty years working to invalidate "Fair Use". Electronic ones (software, % music, film) wrote guaran

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

Feigning erudition, Tasha Smith wrote: % % Hiii...Thank you soo much i really appreciate your patience with me. Setting this % thing up. I will be hanging around this mailling list soo next time someone else % needs help like me i can offer them a hand and if not point them to these post at % l

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

Hiii...Thank you soo much i really appreciate your patience with me. Setting this  thing up. I will be hanging around this mailling list soo next time someone else  needs help like me i can offer them a hand and if not point them to these post at  least  :) Im just going through the logs and stuff

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

Horaaay! It worked :)  I started the  daemon /usr/sbin/named Added this rule to my iptables iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp  --dport 53 -j ACCEPPT pointed my windows machine to the LAN inetrface 192.168.0.1 and it WORKED: Here is a NSLOOKUP query form my windows machine output: C:\>nslookup**

Re: shuttle disaster

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 22:52, dep wrote: > > > what is surprising is the continued arrogance of nasa in having never > > pondered having to rescue people from a crippled shuttle. > > If memory serves me no space agency of any description has, or ap

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> In digikam, if you select the USB interface and press the 'Autodetect' > button, what happens? > 1) I connected the Powershot S45 and gphoto2 --auto-detect(s) it. 2) Fire up digikam and do the auto detect. Failed to auto-detect camera! Please retry or try setting manually. And I think th

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tuesday 04 February 2003 22:52, dep wrote: > what is surprising is the continued arrogance of nasa in having never > pondered having to rescue people from a crippled shuttle. If memory serves me no space agency of any description has, or appeared to have, any rescue agenda in place at anytime

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

In digikam, if you select the USB interface and press the 'Autodetect' button, what happens? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ ·

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:16:54 -0500 Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I wrong here? The more I'm reading, the more I'm thinking that I am. > It actually creates the device file in /proc/usb > I will miss the auto-created file "/dev/usb/mdc800" but I should be able > to link to whate

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

Ok...i changed this to /var/run/named.pid  and i get a error message in my logs but if i leave it like /var/named/named.pid It starts up fine..so i left it...im not sure if it going to casue problems later but ...  Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash

RE: shuttle disaster [OT]

Bill Campbell typed thusly on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:11 PM: > When I was racing cars for a living, I knew that there > was a certain danger involved every time I took my car on > the track. Furthermore there's a tremendous amount of > trust amongst the drivers wh

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Yes, the usbdevfs filesystem is mounted. Everything seems to work right up until gphoto2 actually tries to get information from the camera. It knows WHAT the camera is, just fine. It does On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:44:35 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> Sorry, I know I'm not supposed to reply to my own post... > > I keep trying and trying but I can't even get gphoto2 to pull the pictures. It automagically detects the camera and that it is plugged into USB: > > aiu1411@gandalf:~/PIX> gphoto2 -P --auto-detect --debug > > 0.576258 gphoto

RE: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Matthew Carpenter typed thusly on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:14 PM: > Sorry, I know I'm not supposed to reply to my own post... > > I keep trying and trying but I can't even get > gphoto2 to pull the pictures. It automagically detects > the camera and that it is

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:24:52 -0500 Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have installed both already... but I don't have a file to access the > camera with (such as /dev/ttyS0 and such) This would help. > > Here is what I get in the log: > Feb 4 13:20:39 gandalf kernel: hub.c: USB ne

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> Sorry, I know I'm not supposed to reply to my own post... > > I keep trying and trying but I can't even get gphoto2 to pull the pictures. It automagically detects the camera and that it is plugged into USB: > > aiu1411@gandalf:~/PIX> gphoto2 -P --auto-detect --debug > > 0.576258 gphoto

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Sorry, I know I'm not supposed to reply to my own post... I keep trying and trying but I can't even get gphoto2 to pull the pictures. It automagically detects the camera and that it is plugged into USB: aiu1411@gandalf:~/PIX> gphoto2 -P --auto-detect --debug 0.576258 gphoto2-port(2): Clos

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:19:36PM -0800, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: .. >Or, as they would have said, "Morituri te salutamus!" The gladiators of old >Rome said this to the emperor before commencing, "We who are about to die >salute you." In my work on the Space Shuttle program some years ago I >

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Am I wrong here? The more I'm reading, the more I'm thinking that I am. It actually creates the device file in /proc/usb I will miss the auto-created file "/dev/usb/mdc800" but I should be able to link to whatever dynamic ### hotplug uses. I just need to add a link statement in the usbmap scrip

RE: shuttle disaster

Keith Antoine typed thusly on Monday, February 03, 2003 4:50 PM: > English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it > was not supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I > believe he was comparing what came out of NASA as being > the truth rather than often as

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Am I wrong here? The more I'm reading, the more I'm thinking that I am. It actually creates the device file in /proc/usb I will miss the auto-created file "/dev/usb/mdc800" but I should be able to link to whatever dynamic ### hotplug uses. I just need to add a link statement in the usbmap scrip

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:49:22 -0500 > "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ok, you've peaked my interest. What are you talking about? I don't > > know about any config file you're talking about and the /etc/hotplug > > stuff is extremely new to me. > > > > 1) The config file is

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:49:22 -0500 "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, you've peaked my interest. What are you talking about? I don't > know about any config file you're talking about and the /etc/hotplug > stuff is extremely new to me. > > 1) The config file is the file *YOU* ad

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:17:05 -0500 > "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. > > > > > > I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but > > KDE is then complaining that it can't find the

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Sorry if this seemed gruff. I didn't mean it directed at you. I'm just floundering in a new way of doing things when I don't really have the time. Not so much the Digital camera, but the way USB is handled between SuSE and COL. Perhaps it's more of a standard way of doing things (hotplug) bu

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Yes, but you can't mount /proc/bus/usb as a drive or use it as a serial port. The device file I'm looking for would be in /dev On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:38:38 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, the devices do not show up in /dev. They are in /proc/bus/usb. __

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

This camera works with 2.4.13 and 2.4.19 from UL, it should most definitely work with 2.4.19 from SuSE since it's the same kernel. Thanks Ken, Matt gandalf:/home/aiu1411 # lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted snd-seq-oss27296 0 (autoclean) mdc800

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:17:05 -0500 "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. > > > > I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but > KDE is then complaining that it can't find the camera on USB... > >

Re: shuttle disaster

How does it work to apply the same logic to a 7x7? 20 years outdated 10 years past mechanical retirement a budget that mimics the airlines that are going bankrupt do you really want to fly the friendly skies of NASA? There is no doubt in my mind that a huge coverup is now ongoing. No matter how fo

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

I have installed both already... but I don't have a file to access the camera with (such as /dev/ttyS0 and such) This would help. Here is what I get in the log: Feb 4 13:20:39 gandalf kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 10 Feb 4 13:20:40 gandalf kernel: md

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Matthew Carpenter wrote: Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but KDE is then complaining that it can't find the camera on USB... Frustrating. And the camera is still not showing up in /dev/usb. Any ideas

Re: libpng.so.3 problem

Keith Antoine wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 02:35, C M Reinehr wrote: >> It seems to me that the problem is not a ldconfig problem, but an rpm >> problem. If I'm not mistaken, when rpm -i complains about a missing >> library, it's not because the library truly is missing or not, but rather

Re: shuttle disaster

I don't know... After 186 missions, 2 ending badly isn't AS bad as if it were 2 out of 10. Although after reading your weekly summary, I did learn a bit more about computer and technical failures which we DON'T hear every day. I like the $5/lb estimate. That would have been nice. On Tue, 4

Palm/floating point

Yes, I know this is a little off-topic, but because I'm writing code for the Palm using linux, maybe it qualifies ;-) OK, the question: If any of you are Palm gurus (I'm still waiting for Mike to get back to me), is there a good overall reference to PROPERLY implimenting floating point on the Pa

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:17:05 -0500 > > > > Can you tell me where that config file is? I just fired up digikam but > > it doesn't have a Canon PowerShot S45 in its list even though it's > > working from the gphoto2 cli. I've been looking for the list. > > I think the gphoto2 list of devices

Updated Step

Doug Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/ to incorporate the following: Update to the site ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:17:05 -0500 "Bruce Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. > > > > I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but > KDE is then complaining that it can't find the camera on USB... Th

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

> Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. > > I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but KDE is then complaining that it can't find the camera on USB... > Frustrating. And the camera is still not showing up in /dev/usb. Any ideas here? > Can yo

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

If the camera does not show up on the USB, then digikam will be unhappy. What USB modules are loaded? Also, the devices do not show up in /dev. They are in /proc/bus/usb. If you cat 'devices' you should see what devices have been found. If you cat 'drivers' you should see what drivers the USB i

Re: Playing my first DVD... (on Gentoo?)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > Are there any DVDs that would not play even if libdvdcss is set up properly? > Specifically, the European releases of, say, Shrek? At least I can verify > that the DVD itself is not the issue. Hard to say. Who knows what tricks the MPAA is up to thes

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Matthew Carpenter wrote: Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but KDE is then complaining that it can't find the camera on USB... Frustrating. And the camera is still not showing up in /dev/usb. Any ideas

Re: Playing my first DVD... (on Gentoo?)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:23:13 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > In my case, I have installed xine-ui-0-9-13, which is the one considered > > by the Gentoo xine maintainer to be the current stable one. There are > > newer > > The xin

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

Digikam, even for SuSE 8.1, is complaining and doesn't work. I found the KDE config are for Digital Cameras and added in mine, but KDE is then complaining that it can't find the camera on USB... Frustrating. And the camera is still not showing up in /dev/usb. Any ideas here? Thanks! Matt On T

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:25:45 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 +1000 > > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > > > > > Given

Re: ADMINISTRIVIA

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:23 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:10:50 -0500 > > Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > We're going t

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tasha Smith spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > Hii... > Ok i re-started my computer... ran this command > /usr/sbin/named- - -and the > and then checked my /var/log/messages and got: > > Feb 3 20:50:36 b7hr2998y54tl named[14

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tasha Smith spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > // where to put out pid file > // absolute path since we don't want > // it in /var/named > pid-file "/var/named/named.pid"; that'll work. or just pid-fi

Re: Some help with BIND9 settings!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tasha Smith spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: > The output of: > netstat -an|grep 53' > is > udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:9530.0.0.0:* ok. that shows that nothing is listening to port 53. so, when you start bind, it should not compl

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, m.w.chang wrote: > tell ya.. the shuttle was shot down by this thing: > > http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN914203 > > it's all in one episode of the anime. :P You are truly a piece of work. Welcome to my kill file. -- ~~~

Re: Playing my first DVD... (on Gentoo?)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > In my case, I have installed xine-ui-0-9-13, which is the one considered by > the Gentoo xine maintainer to be the current stable one. There are newer The xine developers consider 0.9.13 to be old, outdated & buggy. > versions available as well, but

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 +1000 > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > > > Given the literal tons of docs that any government project has, you > > > would think that a plan f

Re: ADMINISTRIVIA

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:10:50 -0500 > Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > We're going to be doing some over-hauling of the site over the next few > > weeks. things may look weird, be

Re: shuttle disaster

begin Roger Oberholtzer's quote: | All this said, I still think that NASA's record is quite good. I | mean, these are not production runs on production equipment. well, they've blown up half the fleet and have a catastrophic accident about 2 percent of the time. so i'm not sure what "bad" woul

Re: shuttle disaster

begin Keith Antoine's quote: | What we are hearing here was that the astronauts were doomed at | takeoff from possible damage. We are also told that there was | insufficient fuel for them to rendezvous with the Space Station. We | are also told that they had insufficient supplies to wait for a |

Re: shuttle disaster

begin Keith Antoine's quote: | From what we are seing on the news here they seem to be admitting | to somewhat lax proceedures. Cost cutting having an effect? to some extent, but that goes back to the early 1970s. from day one, the shuttle program has been both pointless and inefficient (whic

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > Given the literal tons of docs that any government project has, you > > would think that a plan for what to do if there is a possible tile > > damage woul

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tuesday 04 February 2003 18:03, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > Given the literal tons of docs that any government project has, you would > think that a plan for what to do if there is a possible tile damage would > already be set out. As such, any prerequisites (space suites) would be in > place. I

Re: question re Suse

On Tuesday 04 February 2003 13:08, Jack Berger wrote: > Well, and I MIGHT be totally wrong here... > > (probably really wrong in assuming it was directed at me in the first > place!) > > From what I can tell about SuSEconfig, it is run automatically after you > update or change a system w/Yast or Y

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:22:57 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2003 13:46, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > > It's a Mustek MDC800. It is one of the cameras listed in the GPhoto > > list of supported cameras... I don't think I've really ever tried > > mounting the

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Tuesday 04 February 2003 13:46, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > It's a Mustek MDC800. It is one of the cameras listed in the GPhoto list > of supported cameras... I don't think I've really ever tried mounting the > camera or anything. Now that I'm looking at it, I don't even have the > /dev/usb/md

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tuesday 04 February 2003 13:35, Ted Ozolins wrote: > dep wrote: > >i agree. though i am not, from long experience, prepared to pronounce > >nasa blameless. here's why: > > > >http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=318 > > I agree with you, How lame-brain can the power

Re: shuttle disaster

On Tuesday 04 February 2003 12:32, dep wrote: > begin Keith Antoine's quote: > | English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not > | supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe he was > | comparing what came out of NASA as being the truth rather than > | often as is th

Re: GPhoto for SuSE 8.1 (or equiv)

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:55:08 -0500 Matthew Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone help me find a GUI interface for SuSE 8.1 to pull the pictures > from my digital camera? I found gphoto2, which is the CLI program, but I > haven't been able to find the GUI app which I am used to from CO

Re: shuttle disaster

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:06:10 -0800 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:32:04PM -0500, dep wrote: > >begin Keith Antoine's quote: > > > >| English is not Changs' first language. I believe that it was not > >| supposed to be taken as humerous, I did not. I believe

Re: Playing my first DVD... (on Gentoo?)

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:02:18 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Bob Raymond wrote: > > Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:38:00 -0500 > > > Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I just played my first DVD on my linux box t