On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 15:21, Tom Wilson wrote:
LMFAO. Found the link on /. I don't even know what to say about this
one because it is so far fetched.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031
I know what we should say.
No reasonable person who knows anything about the industry and/or
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:08, Collins Richey wrote:
No, the truth is out. Hillary has spoken: GWB is at fault, as always.
GWB?
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On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 20:49, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
These worms are so benign it's pathetic. If only the Windows world realized just
how much peril they could be in! So far we've only really had worms that
self-propagate and then did some token act to prove that they weren't gay. But how
Michael Hipp wrote:
What is the difference? Do I need both or just one or the other?
Trying to piece it together ...
What do want to do:
- use the apt tool as a rpm packet management utility
- create your own rpm repository from where others might download and
install?
In the latter case you
On Friday 15 August 2003 10:05 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb
wrote:
On my Caldera system (WS 3.1) which still runs KDE (2.2.x) I had some
problems that meant I had to do the KDE thing of removing all in /tmp,
renaming ~/.kde2 and letting KDE create a new ~./.kde2. However, in
Jack Berger wrote:
Well, could be, but...
Ted Kopel interviewed FORMER fed cyber security czar Richard Clark.
What a self serving piece of work this guy is, insinuating that this
is the work of terrorist hackers, since the electrical system was
designed to contain this type of outage to a small
burns wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:25, Bill Campbell wrote:
A more obvious question is why they're running mission-critical
applications on Windows in the first place!
They may not be. The people that write these articles sometimes do not
have the full story and occasionally are clueless,
I must disagree. This worm writer has performed a great public service.
Making people patch their computers. MS should be writing worms like this.
Joel
The people that write and launch these programs in the wild should
caught and forced to do something really unpleasant for a very long
burns wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031
I know what we should say.
[ snipped, length but kept hint of message :) ]
What is required is for the government to launch an immediate
investigation to see if Microsoft is indeed behind this. If they find
that it is, not only does it raise
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
What do want to do:
- use the apt tool as a rpm packet management utility
I just want to use apt to update my systems and install new software.
Everything I've read makes it sound very superior to just attempting it
via rpm.
package from http://freshrpms.net, partly
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 09:17:09 -0400
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I must disagree. This worm writer has performed a great public
service. Making people patch their computers. MS should be writing
worms like this.
I know a lot of folks who don't want to patch their computers because
On Saturday 16 August 2003 9:45 am, someone claiming to be Michael Hipp wrote:
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
What do want to do:
- use the apt tool as a rpm packet management utility
I just want to use apt to update my systems and install new software.
Everything I've read makes it sound very
Michael Hipp wrote:
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
What do want to do:
- use the apt tool as a rpm packet management utility
It's very handy indeed. E. g., If you point apt's sources.list file to
the repositories at
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/
then the simple sequence|
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apt-get update|
Tim Wunder wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 9:45 am, someone claiming to be Michael Hipp wrote:
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
What do want to do:
- use the apt tool as a rpm packet management utility
I just want to use apt to update my systems and install new software.
Everything
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:57:12 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know a lot of folks who don't want to patch their computers because
some of these patches come with changed EULAs they don't want to
accept.
Unfortunately, they also can't change over to Linux because some
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 09:49, Tom Marinis wrote:
bis snip of reasons why a government solutionwouldn't be useful)
Perhaps, but all that shows is that the existing anti-trust legislation
doesn't work and that the current administration has no intention of
making it work.
Still... the thought of
No, I don't think we disagree on this. I just didn't expound on the
underlying reason for the current mess in the power system. That is
DE-REGULATION of the industry.
-jhb-
From: Tom Marinis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jack Berger wrote:
The truth is that everyone wants/loves/needs electricity, but
The usefulness of a site like ShieldsUp is that it gives you the
ability, from inside, to initiatate a test from outside, to see if that
firewall you just put up is working. If there is a better such site
available, I'd sure like to know about it.
I use a shell account on an external box for
Joel Hammer wrote:
Thanks for the scan. These ports I expected to be open, except for 1024
(kdm). I just wonder why ShieldsUp didn't detect these ports.
I have noticed most scanners tend to do the well known ports if you
scanned every port it would take a long time. so they mostly look at the
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
I don't know if they are really different; both should supply the core
tool apt-get, and synaptic, if you like to have a gui interface that
really works.
sorry for the term gui interface - it's really foolish.
Klaus
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On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 09:49, Tom Marinis wrote:
bis snip of reasons why a government solutionwouldn't be useful)
Perhaps, but all that shows is that the existing anti-trust legislation
doesn't work and that the current administration has no intention of
making
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:45, Bill Campbell and others wrote:
snip
For some reason I am missing about half of the most recent postings to
this thread. Is it just me?
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On Sat, Aug 16, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
I must disagree. This worm writer has performed a great public service.
Making people patch their computers. MS should be writing worms like this.
Microsoft writes the virus. The worms merely take advantage of the myriad
security holes in Windows and the
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003, burns wrote:
...
Code that causes this much disruption of commerce is anything but
benign. These are more than just the digital equivalent of a rck thrown
through a window, they suck up huge amounts of bandwidth, both as people
attempt to deal with them and for the fact that
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver history...
What's really odd to me is why it shows linux as the os and IIs as the
server?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.microsoft.com
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On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver history...
What's really odd to me is why it shows linux as the os and IIs as the
server?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.microsoft.com
That information can be faked on the
On Saturday 16 August 2003 02:47 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver
history... What's really odd to me is why it shows linux as the os and
IIs as the server?
On Saturday 16 August 2003 03:33 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 02:47 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver
history... What's really odd to me is why it shows linux as the
os
Quoth Net Llama!:
On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver history...
What's really odd to me is why it shows linux as the os and IIs as the
server?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.microsoft.com
That
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 03:33 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 02:47 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver
history... What's really odd to me is why
Quoth burns:
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:45, Bill Campbell and others wrote:
snip
For some reason I am missing about half of the most recent postings to
this thread. Is it just me?
Not quite sure what you mean.
Kurt
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Kurt Wall wrote:
The site www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/6.0 on Linux
Because Akamai runs Linux and the Microsoft site(s) run Windows Server
2003?
Kurt
Is that why the movies run so smoothly, even on a P-II ? ]:-)
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On 08/16/03 13:30, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 03:33 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 02:47 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver
history...
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 14:07, Bill Campbell wrote:
The people who deploy Windows systems on the Internet should be held
accountable for endangering their organization's data and systems (not to
mention lost productivity while waiting for Windows systems to reboot
unnecessarily). It's not like
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:31, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth burns:
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 13:45, Bill Campbell and others wrote:
snip
For some reason I am missing about half of the most recent postings to
this thread. Is it just me?
Not quite sure what you mean.
It's OK. The missing posts
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 14:47, Net Llama! wrote:
On 08/16/03 11:33, Jerry McBride wrote:
The following Netcraft webpage lists microsoft os and webserver history...
What's really odd to me is why it shows linux as the os and IIs as the
server?
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003, burns wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 14:07, Bill Campbell wrote:
The people who deploy Windows systems on the Internet should be held
accountable for endangering their organization's data and systems (not to
mention lost productivity while waiting for Windows systems to
On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:55 am, someone claiming to be Klaus-Peter
Schrage wrote:
Tim Wunder wrote:
On Saturday 16 August 2003 9:45 am, someone claiming to be Michael Hipp
wrote:
snip
Does apt preclude the continued use of RedHat's up2date tool?
No, but you'll need to execute up2date
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 17:59, Bill Campbell wrote:
big snip
Good Grief, Bill. I think we agree.
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burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Aug 2003 04:23:29 -0400
The people that write and launch these programs in the wild should
caught and forced to do something really unpleasant for a very long
time.
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:57:12 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know a lot of folks who don't want to patch their computers because
some of these patches come with changed EULAs they don't want to
accept.
Where in the kde 3 control panel can you change the launching of programs from
two to one click and vice versa.
Thanks,
Joel
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I am not sure that regulation or de-regulation is really the problem.
It seems to me to be this strange, hybrid, government solution that is
both and neither. If we want competition, deregulate the WHOLE thing
and allow competition. If we want regulation, stop pretending that the
power
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
...
There are solutions in most cases, but most users are so locked into the
M$ mentality that they won't even make the effort.
I agree with the sentiment but the reality is much harsher. Most linux
apps just aren't up to their windoze counterparts.
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Joel Hammer wrote:
| Where in the kde 3 control panel can you change the launching of
programs from
| two to one click and vice versa.
| Thanks,
| Joel
Peripherals-Mouse-Icons. Choose the radio button for single or double
click.
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Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ other stuff snipped - see the thread for details ]
The essential situation is this. Using M$ products is a recipe for
disaster (when will the latest worm strike again?), in spite of the
fact that some of the
Yes it can. In fact we run an appache server on a Sun box. The web
signature is IIs, and we spoof some netbui traffic on the network
connection as well. My sysadmin enjoys watching all the script kiddies
try all the known MS hacks against the box. He's kind of a sicko that
way ;)
From: Net
You are not alone... It is happening to me exactly as you describe...
I was playing with webmin and turning off some initialization scripts...
I think the absense of one of them is the guilty.
Chucho!
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I don't know what I did the last time I went to adjust my machine's
Thanks.
Joel
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 06:54:37PM -0600, Andrew Mathews wrote:
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Joel Hammer wrote:
| Where in the kde 3 control panel can you change the launching of
programs from
| two to one click and vice versa.
| Thanks,
| Joel
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 22:32, Ken Moffat wrote:
And if deregulated, what company will fix the lines that lead to Antler,
Minnesota, or Carnduff, Saskatchewan?
Well there's deregulation and there's privatization. Ma Bell services
areas that are not commercially viable because it is a condition
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 23:11, Ken Moffat wrote:
I understand there is a move by Rumsfeld to privatize the armed forces.
Source out all the support functions, just leaving the bullet shooters
in the service. I'm pretty sure they won't deregulate! ;-)
That's been going on for at least 20
Sorry this is really M$ related but:
I had a customer with a constant rebooting machine, which we found was a
motherboard problem, PSU was fine and also switch was. So I used the latest
Gigabyte motherboard as a replacement GA-700N-400Pro, which was an advanced
board on the older 333
As interesting as this off-topic thread may be, please continue it on
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questions don't need to follow along.
[ snips ]
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 05:55:24 -0700
Tom Marinis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack Berger wrote:
Well, could be,
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