Re: Caldera Sues IBM

2003-03-08 Thread Richard Thompson
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 04:16, Jerry McBride wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:22:44 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bastards. I'm going to throw away every piece of Caldera software I own. I'm not happy either, Kurt... but if you happen to have a retail OpenLinux 3.1.1 package...

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, I have found a computer that knoppix won't fully work on. Knoppix couldn't initialize the sound chip in the mother board. So, I guess I'll stick with lindows for a while. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Ken Moffat
Joel Hammer wrote: Well, I have found a computer that knoppix won't fully work on. Knoppix couldn't initialize the sound chip in the mother board. So, I guess I'll stick with lindows for a while. /mailman/listinfo/linux-users What processor does this machine have? -- Ken Moffat kmoffat at

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some OpenLinux boxes pretty soon. Principles you know... Can someone tell me, which of the

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread dep
begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Joel Hammer
A duron 1.1 gh Joel On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 06:50:48AM -0800, Ken Moffat wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: Well, I have found a computer that knoppix won't fully work on. Knoppix couldn't initialize the sound chip in the mother board. So, I guess I'll stick with lindows for a while.

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:02:50 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. Filing away in my almost humor folder. -- Collins

More SCO News

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
SuSE Is Reevaulating Our Relationship with SCO Group. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-07-023-26-NW-CD-SS At least someone in the SCO group has a little common sense! -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More SCO News

2003-03-08 Thread dep
begin Collins Richey's quote: | SuSE Is Reevaulating Our Relationship with SCO Group. | http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-07-023-26-NW-CD- |SS | | At least someone in the SCO group has a little common sense! you mean unitedlinux group, don't you? -- dep

Re: More SCO News

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, dep wrote: % begin Collins Richey's quote: % | SuSE Is Reevaulating Our Relationship with SCO Group. % | http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-07-023-26-NW-CD- % |SS % | % | At least someone in the SCO group has a little common sense! % % you mean unitedlinux

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Joel Hammer
More nice surprises with this thing. I took the case apart to see what it looks like. I wasn't too hopeful when I noticed that two of the case screws had been left off at the factory. However, my fears were unwarranted. Very nice case, well finished, no sharp edges. Very nice uncluttered

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. I haven't tried gentoo, LFS, or any of the other do-it-yourself forms of Linux, primarily because I would

Re: More SCO News

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 12:22:07PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, dep wrote: % begin Collins Richey's quote: % | SuSE Is Reevaulating Our Relationship with SCO Group. % | http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-07-023-26-NW-CD- % |SS % | % | At least someone in the SCO

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
On 03/08/03 09:39, Joel Hammer wrote: CDROM. There are two DIMM slots, and joy of joy, only one was in use (it has a 125 meg memory chip in it.) So, I was able to put in another 30 megs of memory from my old computer and I put in a hard drive I had What kind of really funky, nonstandard memory is

Re: More SCO News

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
On 03/08/03 08:11, Collins Richey wrote: SuSE Is Reevaulating Our Relationship with SCO Group. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-07-023-26-NW-CD-SS At least someone in the SCO group has a little common sense! i dunno why it took this event to make them question the sanity of the

Updated Step

2003-03-08 Thread Nobody
Net Llama! has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/multimedia/dvdplay.html to incorporate the following: Updated for newest Xine release ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:54:24 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: Well, it looks like I'll be spending some effort to swap out some

Re: Caldera Sues IBM

2003-03-08 Thread Lee
On Friday 07 March 2003 22:46, Richard Thompson wrote: On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 04:16, Jerry McBride wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:22:44 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bastards. I'm going to throw away every piece of Caldera software I own. I'm not happy either, Kurt... but if

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. I haven't tried gentoo, LFS,

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | They've finally caught up with gentoo grin they're a pain in the ass, but they're not *that* bad. I haven't tried gentoo, LFS,

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: But that is exactly what gentoo is! It is very stable. Packages are deemed stable or experimental by the

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
[ snips ] On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:13:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:54:24 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:57:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:49:52PM -0500, Jerry

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:02:50AM -0500, dep wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: But that is exactly

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Collins Richey wrote: % On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0500 % Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up world % and I see what I need to do. I've been using Gentoo for a couple of months % % God, I

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
At least we'll be running Gentoo G. And I'm not sure it can't be setup for distribution as you pointed out. Collins Richey wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:12 -0800 Bill Campbell

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Joel Hammer
A lot of stuff is missing from the standard install, like tcpdump! Anyway, an article on the web pointed me in the right direction with lindows. From the command line (get a konsole by running the konsole command from the run command option in the menu.) run: apt-get install synaptic Then, go

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 08 March 2003 17:29 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up world and I see what I need to do. I've been using Gentoo for a couple of months God, I wish I'd said that! Wait a minute, I did say that. You better watch it,

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Plonk away! I'm happy with Gentoo - finally a distro I don't have to spend more time updating and searching for dependencies than using it G. Bruce Marshall wrote: On Saturday 08 March 2003 17:29 pm, Collins Richey wrote: Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins Richey wrote: Yes! I am so glad never to see RPM - I just emerge sync, emerge -up world and I see what I need to do. I've been using Gentoo for a couple of months God, I wish I'd said that! Wait a minute, I did say that. You better watch it, Brett. They'll put you in the same

Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread sjardine
Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven systems for about a year

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
On 03/08/03 17:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. If anyone has good reports on a Linux distro that works well with a Ultra Sparc 2, and/or Mac G3(Yellowdog?), let me know.. If you don't mind Redhat (i know that i don't), then Aurora Linux Yellowdog are the best bets: http://yellowdoglinux.com/

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the reaction on the

Missing space in reiserfs partition

2003-03-08 Thread Joel Hammer
I have an 80 gig drive. It had been in a previous system. I had made partitions 1-5 (ext2). I just put in into a new debian system (lindows) and made a reiserfs partition on it, hdc6. Here is my current partition table: disk /dev/hdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 9732 cylinders Units = cylinders of

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread Andrew Mathews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. I can say that I have been retiring Caldera driven

Re: Missing space in reiserfs partition

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote: % I have an 80 gig drive. It had been in a previous system. I had made % partitions 1-5 (ext2). % % I just put in into a new debian system (lindows) and made a reiserfs % partition on it, hdc6. Here is my current partition table: % % disk /dev/hdc: 255

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread sjardine
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:41:19 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying

Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good

2003-03-08 Thread Joel Hammer
WARNING. I installed xine with synaptic (really just apt-get front end I am guessing) and xine froze the system. Even worse, lindows refused to start kde after reboot. I had to reinstall, twice. So, don't try xine with lindows for now unless you want to reinstall (which goes quickly.) Joel

Dumb question

2003-03-08 Thread Tom Wilson
Hi all, I am almost (almost that is) embarrassed to ask this. Got a Redhat 7.3 install and I've tried to install source RPM's to no avail. Well I found out that there is no /usr/src/redhat directory and it's subdirectories. I *thought* that I had installed all the goodies during install;

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread Rick Sivernell
List I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the eServer/eWorkstation

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread Chong Yu Meng
Hi Rick ! If you still have one more year to go, you should stick with what works. It'll take you a couple of weeks to a month to get used to another distro. If you're going to move to an OpenLinux-like distro like TurboLinux, it should not take you more than a week, Red Hat will take you

Re: Caldera List

2003-03-08 Thread Leon Goldstein
Kurt wrote: Feigning erudition, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber % for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. % They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. So, what's the

Re: Dumb question

2003-03-08 Thread Andrew Mathews
Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, I am almost (almost that is) embarrassed to ask this. Got a Redhat 7.3 install and I've tried to install source RPM's to no avail. Well I found out that there is no /usr/src/redhat directory and it's subdirectories. I *thought* that I had installed all the

Re: Dumb question

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
On 03/08/03 19:46, Tom Wilson wrote: Hi all, I am almost (almost that is) embarrassed to ask this. Got a Redhat 7.3 install and I've tried to install source RPM's to no avail. Well I found out that there is no /usr/src/redhat directory and it's subdirectories. I *thought* that I had

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:11:23PM -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote: Oh I think there are a lot of refugees from the rpm farm on this list:) I left rpm behind a while back, been using mainly Slackware and of course that build_it_yourself_unmentionable_G oops I almost said it distro. What I enjoy with

Re: Dumb question

2003-03-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Tom Wilson wrote: % Hi all, % % I am almost (almost that is) embarrassed to ask this. % % Got a Redhat 7.3 install and I've tried to install source RPM's to no % avail. Well I found out that there is no /usr/src/redhat directory and % it's subdirectories. I *thought*

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
On 03/08/03 20:33, Bill Campbell wrote: I read about the OpenPKG system in SysAdmin magazine late last year. It's an RPM based system developed by Cable and Wireless in Europe to help them maintain a large number of heterogeneous Unix and Linux systems for their ISP operations. Isn't CW the same

DRI anyone?

2003-03-08 Thread Net Llama!
Good evening, Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. -Lonni -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux

Re: What's after OpenLinux?

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 10:15:33PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote: On 03/08/03 20:33, Bill Campbell wrote: I read about the OpenPKG system in SysAdmin magazine late last year. It's an RPM based system developed by Cable and Wireless in Europe to help them maintain a large number of heterogeneous Unix