Re: PCMCIA help needed
For the intel PCMCIA at least, you may need to specify which PCMCIA hardware you have. There are a number of chipsets that the PCMCIA system does not automatically identify. I think this is in a readme in the kernel sources, but as I remember, check out /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia. One of the items lets you say which type of PCMCIA interface there is. I know nothing about Powerbook hardware, so I can say no more. What gets printed in /var/log/messages when a card is inserted? On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:53:02 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Greetings, | In my never ending quest to torture myself, I'm trudging onward in my | attempt to get the Mac Powerbook 3400c fully functional in the world of | Linux. I've got Yellow Dog Linux installed, the onboard NIC is on the | network, X works, and i've even got the latest version of Mozilla | installed. The only remaining piece of the puzzle is an old US Robotics | XJ5560 56K PCMCIA modem card. | Admittedly my experience with PCMCIA hardware is rather limited on a | SONY Vaio laptop, i've got a Linksys 10/100 PCMCIA NIC that just | 'worked' as soon as I plugged it in. So, i never had to even look at | the various config files in /etc/pcmcia, much less set them up. | I read the entire PCMCIA HOWTO, and followed the very limited | suggestions for Powerbooks. | So, i've downloaded built the latest stable version of pcmcia-cs on | the Powerbook. I have no trouble starting the pcmcia service (cardmgr | is running as a daemon), and in messages it logs that its monitoring | both PCMCIA slots on the powerbook. | When I insert the modem card into either slot, i hear this weird | alternating hi/low beeping, and then nothing. If i look at messages, it | rambles quite a bit about how an anonymous memory card was inserted, | and how memory-cs.o can't be found to be loaded. | According to the PCMCIA HOWTO, this tends to mean that the memory scan | failed, most likely because the specified memory range in config.opts is | incorrect. Well, the range that i specified is the range explicitly | reccommended for Powerbooks, so i don't know what else to try. | Trolling through google (and Google groups) i've come up empty. Quite a | few generic suggestions, but not much that is specific to PCMCIA modems | on powerbooks. | So, i've come up dry here, and i'd really like some suggestions. This | laptop really won't do me much good if i can't get the modem working, | and its so kewl to screw with people's heads when they see me using a | Mac, and then can't figure out what the hell i did to Mac OS. :) | | = | | Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com | | . | | __ | Do You Yahoo!? | Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games | http://sports.yahoo.com | ___ | Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users | Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: caldera 3.1.1
I have one on a Dell Inspiron laptop and another on an ASUS 850 chipset mother board system. Both seem to be working fine. The AUSU is my work computer. After zillions of years of running UnixWare, last week I switched to Caldera 3.1.1. My old computer literally blew up. So I took the opportunity of a new system to make the switch. So far, both work fine. In a week or so I will upgrade my home computer from 3.1 to 3.1.1. Aside from the fact that it will be an upgrade rather that a fresh install, I expect it to work the same (CRON oddities aside). -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: slightly OT anyone have problems with NEC monitors
The main reason we use NEC is that they make a good VESA mount display. As our systems are installed in vehicles travelling down often very bumpy roads, we need the better mounting capabilities. Maybe we have been lucky, but they have worked fine so far. No problems here. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Those maps :)
I seem to have gone missing from the map. We run a SxS mirror here in sunny Stockholm (details at the bottom). I seem to recall sending the info twice due to some e-mail address confusion. So here's number three. So, if you are making new maps any time soon... On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:59:15 -0700 Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Alright!! I've been busy, but finally got around to making these maps. Now, | there are only 37 members on these maps. I can add more, but I have to | rewrite the database to make it port more easily. | | You can download them from here: | http://www.pdahandyman.com/files/sxs-maps.zip The archive is about 1.3 MBs | in size. | | Anyway, enjoy and if you note any errors, please let me know. | | Tyler | | | ___ | Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users | Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gethostbyaddress
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:24:11 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Feb 25 04:59:41 linuxbox sendmail[15233]: gethostbyaddr(63.140.120.100) | failed: 1 | | I ave been seeing this around on my box lately, not exactly sure what it is | but I finally seen it in mail logs and its one of my top ten annoyances, the | word failed next to it all | | Any ideas, I think I seen it in named/bind a while back and I do believe it | has something to do with my address or something misconfigured in bind. | | Any ideas suggestion greatly appreciated. The system 63.140.120.100 probably does not have a DNS reverse lookup in the proper place. If you do a lookup on the address using nslookup, I would imagine it fails. This could make some software not sent things to the site. This is a useful check on address spoofing in that the reverse lookup is usually maintained by the ISP and cannot easily be set to something false. Unless your ISP is foolish. Or sloppy. Here I get this for that address: [root@seaotter roger]# nslookup Default Server: seaotter.opq.se Address: 0.0.0.0 63.140.120.100 Server: seaotter.opq.se Address: 0.0.0.0 *** seaotter.opq.se can't find 63.140.120.100: Non-existent host/domain -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: glibc
Damn If you get a few old messages, sorry. I have been moving mail from Sylpheed on UnixWare to kmail on Linux. Sylpheed keeps sent main in 'outbox'. kmail keeps stuff to send in 'outbox'. Or so I just discovered. So, some of my old things just got resent from kmail... While on the topic, anyone know where kmailcvt is in Caldera 3.1.1? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: pcmcia-cs dilemma (USB)
I saw that therer is a new release of pcmcia-cs in the last day or so. Check www.freshmeat.net for the announcement. There was something about a big bug for certain PCMCIA chipsets. On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:45:52 -0800 Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 04 March 2002 03:09 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:03, Vern W Heesch wrote: both correct the sound problem on my machine but neither one corrects the usb problem. which, obviously, is not the subject line. What usb problem? Perhaps I can help there. Interrupt conflicts while loading usb during boot up. From what I can tell after searching googlesony vaio laptops have a wierd bios interrupt handler that isn't quite right. On boot usb finds int 10 but gets assigned 9, this creates an irq conflict it says. So, when I plug my mouse into usb it just times out when getting assigned an address. There were mentions of some kind of hack to get around this but I didn't understand them. Although kernel 2.4.18 does work for the usb mouse sometimes and then only for a few minutes. Kernel 2.4.8 wouldn't work at all. Perhaps I should just contact Award and see if there is a newer bios for this thing. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: no harm intended, just fun messages....
After an unpleasant foray into kmail, I have returned to the sylpheed fold. Any idea how to add headers like these from sylpheed? On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:43:20 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was visiting this page, http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ , and thought the X-message-flag deal was pretty kewl but I cant seem to get it to show they way they described.. its supposed to work in any OE Express... I am using Kmail 2.1.1 and put it under Mime Headers.. right spot to begin with? I tried it with X-essage-flag: , X-message-flag: and X-message-flag as the name with Linux : The choice of a GNU generation as the the value. When I check the properties using OE Express it shows up there but it doesnot come in flagged and when opened it does not show up in the highlighted info bar either. Not that it really matters jsut wondering why it aint working I also check through pine to see if I could locate a spot that I could create the same affect but cant seem to locate a spot in it... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fonts in netscape, again
There is a setting in Netscape that says if you want to be able to override document font specs. Check Perferences-Appearances-Fonts. Does that do anything? On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:50:54 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On some web pages the fonts are tiny, and cannot be adjusted. On others, you can adjust the size of the fonts in edit/preferences and make them larger(or smaller). Yet, if I save the web page to my hard drive, then open it up as a file, it the fonts behave as expected. Does anyone know why? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fonts in netscape, again
In Netscape 4.77 (came with COl 3.1.1) I could change the font size in the preferences menu. I have the option 'Use doc fonts including dynamic fonts' enabled. If I select a different font in the preferences menu, the page is immediately diaplayed with it. Maybe a Netscape 6 thing. I stick to Mozilla. I just don't have it on my box at work, so I cannot tell you what is does. Konqueror (KDE 2.2.1) does not seem to change fonts on this page. So maybe it has some new setting that my older Netscape happily ignores. On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:46:46 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/national/will/story/1779767p-1858913c.html This link refused to change fonts but if saved to my hard drive, when opened as a file, the fonts were adjustable. Joel On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:04:57PM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:49:07 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That settng doesn't help. I had a feeling it may not. Which Netscape version? Do you have an accessable page where it does not allow size change? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mozilla 0.9.9 released
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:16:35 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, Mozilla 0.9.9 was released today. Actually Sunday. I'm using it right now. The only obvious change that i'm seeing is the behavior of the tabs, which i'm now not too pleased with. MathML looks interesting. Of course, generating the pages seems a chore. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Is this the day we have been waiting for?
As in, 'I'm gonna hold by breath until I die.' I thought that was the new distribution model anyway. It is because of this possability that the Chinese government went with Linux. They did not want to base a very important part of their infrastructure on one company's product, a product that could be withheld in times of disagreement. Even though it will never happen, I think that the fact that the suggestion was even made quite interesting. In a perfect world, this would cause many people to re-think their dependency. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:45:12 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried it yet (still in office). You guys using.. hmm... IE? :) Blasphemy! I tried Mozilla 0.9.9 and Konq as delivered with Caldera 3.1.1 Neither worked. The info in the page implied that the server needed an XML file that flash would in some way turn into a menu. What type of menu I am not sure, as the page gave no clue and the demo did not function. It would be nice if it was a server-only thing. But I expect that it requires client flash support. Easy, but not guaranteed,. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:19:38 +0800 m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ I got a gray box on the left. I have flash installed. It seems the server needs something as well. Would that be Freshmeat's server? Odd demo. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day two) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:22:18 -0800 Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that. Icky Flash. Javascript menus are at least plugin-free. I agree about flash. However, Javascript menus are a pain as well. I set up a nice one on a school web site, based on code from www.brainjar.com, and many users of Macs and people with 'old' computers complained that the menus did not work. Mainly Netscape pre 4.76 or something like that. I was a bit suprised. On Wednesday 03 April 2002 08:58 am, you wrote: --- m.w.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look on this: simple flash menu http://freshmeat.net/redir/sfmenu/22779/url_homepage/ Personally, i *hate* it. Flash is one of the most over-used 'features' around these days, and i've yet to see a single good use for it. Actually the only mildly good use is the stupid/silly animated movies that some people make (All your base, etc). Additionally, Flash requires a plugin, and the last thing we need is to raise the bar on using the Steps. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:59:51 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:27:37 -0500 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On April 4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote: FWIW, I like the new design. I think Tux looks too studious. I still think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as well as reading. Or a beer. Noted. Why waste good sipping time - go right for a good single malt. Irish, of course. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day three) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:11:02 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: patrick Kapturkiewicz spewed electrons into the ether that assembled into: Can we see the first page translated ? probably not until we take the design live. I'd hate to see a translator have to re-work the translation multiple times. Why not? Is there really a difference between the 'new' english version of the front page, and the 'old' french version? Too bad the new design was not in a content management system so that content could be divorced from layout. Makes language translation much easier to maintain. My Zope suggestion got mild (at best) reception. Oh well... I do like the new layout. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0 is out!
On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:19:25 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 336 meg of source code... just so I can run a cutting edge desktop?!?!?! No thanks. In all fairness, now much is documentation in many languages? More than you might expect. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (day four) - your opinion on the new design needed
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 06:52:36 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 04, burns managed to emit: On April 4, 2002 02:28 pm, Rick McQueen-Thomson wrote: FWIW, I like the new design. I think Tux looks too studious. I still think he needs to be sipping on a daiquiri or a Planter's Punch as well as reading. Or a beer. Noted. What? No caffeinated substance? What are you guys, troglodytes or something? Or one of those sick, perverted souls that goes to Starbucks and orders a [horrors] skinny decaf latte? Glad to report the total absence of Starbucks in this country. I could just hear the Italian guy down the block laugh when I ask for either a 'skinny' or a 'decaf' anything. Swedes are serious about coffee! -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: QT Install problems
On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:47:24 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brian, I think the consesus is that a 'make install' is not required. That being said, you need to make sure /etc/ld.sod.so.conf.conf contains '/usr/lib/qt3/lib' (or whatever directories contain the qt3 libs), then run ldconfig to update the libraries once qt3 is installed. Alternatively, you can create the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH (read this, http://www.visi.com/~barr/ldpath.html) and set it to include the path to the qt3 libs. I think LD_LIBRARY_PATH is by far the best way to do this. This applies when you compile KDE as well! That way the binaries will find their parts no matter what /etc/ld.so.conf contains. When compiling KDE, add the KDE library directory as well as the QT directory to LD_LIBRARY_PATH -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Interesting MS article
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:19:59 -0400 Gerard Beekmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sorry for the URL I didn't make it up, but the read it quite interesting. I've not confirmed any of it, but it sure sounds like something Microsoft would do. http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml Also interesting was the Caldera (non)link on the left. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: A word of warning to those using Hancom Office
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:45:52 -0400 Harry G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hancom Office 2.0.1 is compiled against the QT-3.0.0 libraries, while KDE3 is compiled against the QT-3.0.3 libraries. These libraries are incompatible, as 3.0.0 supplies functions that do not exist in 3.0.3. Another example of a great use of -soname when making a library... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
File system question
Is it true that the Reiser FS does not make a lost+found directory? I have a system (only system with Reiser FS) that has two file systems, and neither have a lost+found. Should I be concerned? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ReiserFS and lost+found
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:45:50 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, list, Roger asked about ReiserFS and the absence of a lost+found directory. I have an all ReiserFS system at work and none of the filesystems have a lost+found directory. This is as of whatever patch set was necessary for kernel 2.4.5. I don't *think* Reiser uses a lost+found directory, but you could ask on the Reiser lists at namesys.com. I will. Mine is for 2.4.13 (i.e., Caldera 3.1.1). The lost+found directory is only used by the fsck utility, not the kernel. But, it must exist and have lots of empty directory entries allocated. I will next check the reiserfs fsck utility. There is no mention of lost+found in that program's man pages. Next stop: source. I also see that the mklost+found program only references ext2. But ext3 has a lost+found as well. So I cannot trust that info as being complete. It is all up to the fs-specific fsck utility. (I had a crew claim that their file system was screwy. When they reported that there was no lost+found, I got concerned. Seems it was a full hard disk. The KDE editor happily 'saves' empty files without nary a complaint when the disk is full. And mcopy dumps core with no message the crew cared to recognize. How odd. I need to check 'disk full' functionality.) -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ReiserFS and lost+found
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:21:41 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 23, Roger Oberholtzer managed to emit: On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:45:50 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: directory. I have an all ReiserFS system at work and none of the filesystems have a lost+found directory. This is as of whatever patch set was necessary for kernel 2.4.5. I don't *think* Reiser uses a lost+found directory, but you could ask on the Reiser lists at namesys.com. I will. Mine is for 2.4.13 (i.e., Caldera 3.1.1). The lost+found directory is only used by the fsck utility, not the kernel. But, it must exist and have lots of empty directory entries allocated. I will next check the reiserfs fsck utility. There is no mention of lost+found in that program's man pages. Next stop: source. I also see that the mklost+found program only references ext2. But ext3 has a lost+found as well. So I cannot trust that info as being complete. It is all up to the fs-specific fsck utility. I think the argument is that the journalled metadata can be replayed, obviating the neeed for lost+found. But, like you, I'm a tad uncomfortable with that notion. I checked with our filesystems guy here and he still doesn't totally trust ReiserFS. His recommendation is good enough for me. Obviously, *no* filesystem is perfect, but I tend to trust ext3 (ext2+journalling) or one of the more time-tested filesystems like XFS or OpenAFS. We have had a bit of trouble with this Reiser setup. Of course, our equipment is installed in vehicles that measure road surface roughness. So the systems tend to bounce around a bit. But in 15 years, we have not had a hard disk failure in any system. (Looking for wood. Knonk knock.) This could just be bad luck. The Saudis are not keeping the roads up near the border with Iraq in such great shape, but they still monitor their condition. However, our roughness/speed measurements do not indicate that the hard disk was overly bounced. We will try ext3. Previously, we used UnixWare's Veriatis (bad spelling) journaling FS, which I think is simply excellent. The Linux jfs are a bit new to us. So, we are experimenting a bit as we go along. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: test
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:38:47 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this thing turned on? Depends on what was in the Kool-Aid. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: And now...., from our unlimited /hutzpah/ department
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:38:55 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on April 30, Michael Scottaline managed to emit: Look at what Microsoft now has the effrontery to suggest: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25085.html Fer cryin' out loud! I want a large quantity of whatever substance Microsoft's lawyers are drinking/smoking/snorting/taking. No, wait, never mind. I have enough trouble with arrogance and self-centeredness as it is. That substance is called money. I want it to... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: And now...., from our unlimited /hutzpah/ department
On Wed, 1 May 2002 13:08:01 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 1, 2002 08:58 am, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Well, if you'll believe that M$ software is the best in the world and worth that horrendous price, you'll believe anything they tell you. So it only makes sense to keep spouting whatever they want these folks to believe. Oh, and they stole the tablets in the first place! I'll bet they're even trying to convert the text so that it can only be read with Office XP:) By those with a .NET Passport. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Spamming question
What amazes me is that, even though I see some attemps at relaying on my server, all of them are failing (I am pretty sure - I only see the transmit denials and no successes in the transfer logs). Still, some of the same sources keep trying over and over. Don't they detect when it has not worked? I need a policy for complaining to their ISPs. To date we have just ignored them. BTW, exim is pretty good at dealing with the relay problem. I prefer it as it is easier to configure than sendmail, yet it recognizes the same command line options. It can be a drop-in replacement for sendmail. Just a happy user here. On Fri, 3 May 2002 05:50:24 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2002 01:00:38 -0400 begin Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: There was an article in the Wall Street Journal today about the problems posed to small businesses by spammers. Basically, the spammer hijacks the mail server or just sends large amount of mail to the business everyday. Is this a special problem just for silly people? I have a mail server going and, except for my early days on linux, have never been exploited in this way, even thought I am on line 24/7. So, is this just a problem of people who don't know what they are doing? The most popular mail transport agent (MTA, also known as a mail server), is sendmail. Until sendmail version 8.9.x, the default configuration was to relay mail, no questions asked. While today we are at sendmail 8.12.3 (sendmail 8.9.x was released years ago), many old installations have never been upgraded and still have this problem (among others, like security holes big enough to fly 747's through, but that's another story). Many other MTAs suffered the same problems. Most have been patched. But all can be easily reconfigured to relay mail from anyone who cares to use it, with no brakes on the system (max # of recipients, max # of messages you can send at one time, etc.). Combine the above with know exploders (a mail address that is nothing more than an alias for thousands of other mail addresses), and the problem is tremendous. Current estimates place the # of spam messages on the Internet at any given time at 20% of the e-mail messages on the Internet. SPAM has been known to bring even BIG mail servers down. That answer the question? David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Klez at it again
On Fri, 3 May 2002 14:25:11 -0700 Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 May 2002, at 18:24, David A. Bandel boldly uttered: NOTE: Klez, when run, first disables antivirus software, deletes signature files from common AV programs, then installs itself as a service. You can't run, you can't hide, all you can do is reformat. Disable the anti-virus software? Oh, pleeazzee, let me re-install Windows on my box... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE3 compile partial failure
I seem to recall that freetype2 from the original source places the files where KDE3 expects them to be. However, the version supplied with Col 3.1 seemed to have a different layout. I think it was some transition version between freetype and freetype2. I solved it by installing the latest freetype2. (If my memory serves.) On Sat, 04 May 2002 10:41:33 -0400 edj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri 03 May 2002 11:01 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: edj spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: ftsnames.h is in /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/freetype/ftsnames.h . I added that to PATH and tried again, but no go. When qt3 compile stopped by not finding qname, I added its location to PATH, and qt3 went smoothly. But here, nothing. that's cause qname is an executable, so putting it in the path makes a difference. now you're looking for header files. they have nothing to do with $PATH. You need to mess w/ --extra-include-dir (or something similar) with the ./configure command I Knew That (tm). OK, I tried adding --x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/freetype to the configure script. I saw that dir scrolling by somewhere, but still no go - same error -ftsnames.h not found. Thanks for responding. -- Ed Jabbour ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SOT Office 2002 ?
On Mon, 6 May 2002 12:47:01 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:53:52PM +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: On Monday 06 May 2002 04:43, Collins wrote: I downloaded and installed it, but it appears to be OO or Star redux - same crappy install process, same overall look, so I trashed it, since I already have OO. What's so crappy about the SO/OO install process? I did quite a lot of installs on win resp. linux systems, and I wished all my installation adventures had been that harmless. It should have been ``rpm -U '' rpm... In my opinion, rpm is not very well suited to binary-only installation from a development system that does not keep the files in the places they will be installed. It is so obtuse in that way that we decided to do our own. How does RPM ask where things should be installed? How would rpm handle the initial -net versus initial user install of SO? If there are install options related to what components to install, how does rpm allow that? I ask because I did not see any way to do these things with rpm. Maybe the books and source we checked all left this aspect out. Still, our front end on our install does manipulate the rpm database so that dependencies and removal can be manipulated via the 'familiar' rpm/kpackage interface. We are just now sorting out adding individual files to the rpm database as part of the install process. That is, files that are not in an rpm file, but that have been generated for the package at install time and should be added to the rpm database for a package. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SOT Office 2002 ?
On Mon, 06 May 2002 21:54:23 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2002 16:21:59 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well for one thing with OOoyou need a Green Hornet secret decoder ring to figure out how to install it. You have to use a /net and snipped What's so crappy about the SO/OO install process? I did quite a lot of installs on win resp. linux systems, and I wished all my installation adventures had been that harmless. Ditto. Plus it's a gui install - no possibility to configure using standard parameter settings (anyone ever heard of --prefix, for example). Since it's gui, you have to use xhost localhost if you want the secret decoder ring stuff. In short, it looks like your average Windoze install. Obviously, YMMV and MBIS (my bias is showing). I guess mine is too G. That's what's so frustrating about the OpenSource stuff - it wants to play with the big boys but when you ask about things like install instructions you get flamed! Whether we like it or not we aren't going to win sysadmins over when they suddenly have to spend hours on mailing lists and searching websites for something that should be included in the package - like a readme! Did Sun include their install manual in the OO source? If so, as it seems the same, I would imagine that should be updated as needed. It seems that the install options are the same. Just sone mew logos in the install screens. Ihe odd thing is, given that there is a GUI to install, why have command line options at all? It is inconsistent. A button to select net or user, for example, would fit the bill nicely. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: SOT Office 2002 ?
On Tue, 7 May 2002 07:16:06 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 07 May 2002 02:52 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: complaint snippage Have any of you entered a bug report at OpenOffice.org? Perhaps there are bug reports in existence requesting an improved install process, perhaps not. If not, entering one would certainly be more productive than bitching on this list. I suspect if someone took the time to contribute a README, they'd accept it. Find the bug (if not found, enter a bug) and submit the README. All of which is just my opinion... Which is what is happening. However, when suggesting a change, it is often interesting to muse and see what others may think. It could improve the quality of the bug report. Or feature request. Or whatever. Instead of just complaining half cocked. IMHO. (BTW, I was defending the SO/OO choice of not using RPM, which hardly warrants a bug report to them...) -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Funny stuff!
On Sun, 12 May 2002 22:47:27 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:37:44PM -0600, Collins wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2002 22:25:33 -0600 Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: modules ROTFLMAO - this is Windows to the core! Check out http://zem.squidly.org/bsod/ Re the Gatwick and Heathrow shots, just be glad there are none showing the BSOD in an AirBus cockpit. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Maybe
Will there be a section on this in the book? On Sat, 18 May 2002 16:25:16 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 18 May 2002 02:03, Tim Wunder wrote: On Friday 17 May 2002 10:03 am, David A. Bandel wrote: For those of you interested, as promised, I've put up a tenative TOC for a basic Linux book: http://linuxbooks.pananix.com/ anip Any reason that this won't render properly for me in Konqueror 3.0.1? The page loads, all the source appears to be there, but I can't scroll the page:-) It not just you as it does the same in kde3 as well. Netscape is ok. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Gcmbust as non-root
Since xcdroast works, I would imagine that cdrecord itself has proper permissions. Still, I have to ask... Mine are: -r-sr-sr-x 1 root root 185948 Dec 13 13:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord I had to do a 'chmod +s' myself. I don't care what the packages claim. It don't work for me without this. What does 'cdrecord --scanbus' return when run as a non-root user? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
On Thu, 23 May 2002 01:42:22 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 09:54 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:30, Tim Wunder wrote: Been running it for a week ;-) AND ? He's still waiting for KMail to start up ;) KMail is, by far, the best e-mail app I've ever used (and it loads fine on my Athlon 950 -- which used to be a fast machine...) , for it's filtering capabilities alone. But it's a small list, Netscape 4.7x, Eudora (under Windows), and Mozilla (since m14) Do try sylpheed. Nice filtering as well. Very straight forward install. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
On Thu, 23 May 2002 21:28:27 -0700 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2002 09:18 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: On Friday 24 May 2002 13:13, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: with the emphasis on WINDOWS! Windows has blue screens of death - KDE just decides to quit working and you have to remove all in /tmp, delete~./kde2 (actually save it somewhere, then delete it) and put all your apps back in it! And like windows it does it at the most inopportune time. I'll be checking out xfce and Gnome. I have experienced non of the problems you talk about, however it maybe that with the hardware setup I have; both disk and memory space; I might just never see them beacuse of that fact. I've used kde for quite a while and, like Keith, I also have yet to encounter any such problems. I only encounter them when doing an upgrade. All this really dumb confusion of /opt/kde vs. /opt/kde2, and $HOME/.kde vs. $HOME/.kde2 and $KDEDIR vs. $KDEDIRS and Desktop vs. Desktop2. This is a big part of what keeps screwing up the config files... In a kde2-only system, why are both needed? Is Caldera the only one that has both sets of things? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
On Fri, 24 May 2002 19:07:19 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 May 2002 17:19, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2002 21:28:27 -0700 I only encounter them when doing an upgrade. All this really dumb confusion of /opt/kde vs. /opt/kde2, and $HOME/.kde vs. $HOME/.kde2 and $KDEDIR vs. $KDEDIRS and Desktop vs. Desktop2. This is a big part of what keeps screwing up the config files... In a kde2-only system, why are both needed? Is Caldera the only one that has both sets of things? Suse has /opt/kde2 and /opt/kde3 in $HOME there is .kde and .kde2 only one desktop plus $KDEDIR. So is keeping an /opt/kde with a few mysterious items in it, as well as an /opt/kde2 with the actual KDE2 a Caldera thing? And what about $KDEDIRS ? If you don't ever have KDE1 installed (like a new Caldera 3.x install), then what is the point of KDEDIR pointing to where KDE is NOT installed but instead to a place that contains a few old relics present on the system for no documented reason? As Calders compile everything froms scratch in their distro (right?), what would want/need a place separate from where KDE2 is installed? If I later install a new KDE, then I place them elsewhere. But I am only wondering about the original install of a single version of KDE2. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out
On Fri, 24 May 2002 05:38:37 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Roger Oberholtzer's quote: | I only encounter them when doing an upgrade. All this really dumb | confusion of /opt/kde vs. /opt/kde2, and $HOME/.kde vs. $HOME/.kde2 | and $KDEDIR vs. $KDEDIRS and Desktop vs. Desktop2. This is a big | part of what keeps screwing up the config files... | | In a kde2-only system, why are both needed? Is Caldera the only one | that has both sets of things? no, suse does some stuff with them which defies rational explanation. i suspect that part of the reason i've had great success with kde is that i do not try to do things with multiple versions on the same machine at the same time. that way lies madness. instead, i have three symlinks: /opt/kde, which points to whatever kde I do this as well. What makes this tricky on Caldera is that they have an /opt/kde and an /opt/kde2. When installing a new KDE in, say, /opt/kde3, which should point at it: /opt/kde (of course not) or /opt/kde2 ? If you redirect the distro's /opt/kde2 to your /opt/kde3, what to do with /opt/kde? I usually just let it be. But I think it, along with the KDEDIR/KDEDIRS duality, is a source of problems. Many programs want to use KDEDIR, which is not pointing to the distro. Only KDEDIRS does. Resulting in configuration inconsistencies. i'm using; /usr/lib/qt, which points to the qt appropriate to the kde in use; and ~/.kde, which points to my kde configuration files. when trying new versions, i change these symlinks to point to the new stuff, with ~/.kde being a copy of my old configuration files. if some application fails to work because of the guys didn't keep config file backward compatibility, i nuke it and let it build a new one which i then modify as needed. this way i can test new versions while keeping the old version pristine such that i can return to it; when the new version is stable, i switch entirely to it. (truth is, i've never had to go back much and certainly never for long.) there are those who would rather employ the elaborate recipes that purport to allow kde-1.x, kde-2.x, and kde-3.x stuff to run at once. these are imho highly questionable. also, i doubt that they work reliably. my brute-force method works every time. I go for the one at a time as well. I just think that it is harder to make it look like there is only one when there are two directories in /opt. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: 75 days and still perking...
Would Crossover's Powerpoint player work? On Mon, 27 May 2002 07:41:10 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 26 May 2002 10:23 pm, Jerry McBride wrote: Just thought I'd brag a bit... My home server has been up and running for 75 days now. How's everyone else doing? :') See sig for my home server. Not very impressive :-( My son needed to use Powerpoint, it seems OpenOffice's presenter doesn't let you play background audio... Our RedHat server at work is different: $ uptime 7:36am up 218 days, 18:54, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 4:00am up 1 day, 10:54, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Sound in presentaions ( wasRe: 75 days and still perking...)
On Mon, 27 May 2002 08:47:26 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe... But it woud seem to me to only allow you to play a presentation file, not create one. Either way, I don't have it installed... I thought it sounded like a viewing thing. So you mean that OO won't allow adding an audio file, or that it does not survive the export to PP? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Consumer-grade digital video cameras, firewire, Linux, anybody?
On Mon, 27 May 2002 20:22:30 + Bob Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That friend of mine with the laptop battery troubles has a nice, fast SuSE 8.0 with XFS. I haven't tested battery yet, but the thing isn't swapping to the HD all the time, even though I went overboard and gave him 600 mb of swap. Now, he wants to replace his now dead digital video camera with something in the $300-$500 range, that works in Linux, and is firewire, and is of good quality. I'm giving up Googling. I spent about two hours on there and got plenty of links about webcams, but he doesn't want a webcam. Any suggestions on what to get? Digital camera or digital video? They are not the same. The latter has tape and the former does not. And, just to be nice, they have a different protocol... And stick to OHCI cards as driver support is far more active than for pcilynx-type cards. This is especially true when using isosynchronous mode and DMA. We use UniBrain firewire cards and Sony DFW-SX900 digital cameras with Linux. Be warned that that they do not work well with Caldera 3.1 as the kernel used had a bad firewire release. The kernel in 3.1.1, however, works as expected. (There is a patch for this available from the 1394 site listed later in this message, but getting the Caldera 3.1 kernel to recompile was not obvious as there were mistakes in the Caldera rpms that required far too much fiddling to sort out. There is a doc from Caldera about how to do this, it you need it.) If your question is about digital video tape cameras, then I can say nothing. Except that the advice about the firewire card and kernel release are also relevant. Have you checked out http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/hcl.php for information on supported hardware? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Consumer-grade digital video cameras, firewire, Linux, anybody?
On Tue, 28 May 2002 11:23:48 + Bob Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that matters is that the camera is of decent enough quality to videotape piano concerts, so I don't care whether it is tape or no tape. Except that this determines which software you can use with it. So he will record the event with just the camera, and then move it to PC via a firewire interface at a later time? I would think that most any digital video that supported firewire would work, as the interface protocol over firewire is standard. Or, let's say that there is a standard. If the camera supports the DV (not DC) standard over firewire, then I would expect it to work with, say, dvgrab. Have you checked out the dvgrab app for more possible pointers to supported video units? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Consumer-grade digital video cameras, firewire, Linux, anybody?
On Tue, 28 May 2002 11:24:54 + Bob Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama! wrote: I don't know that what he wants exists. He basically wants a fully featured video camera, that has a IEEE1394 interface? I know that Axis Communications makes a cat5 camera with a built in webserver, but that's about as close as it gets. If he's truly looking to do fancy video recording, he should purchase a quality camera, and a video capture/TV card. What he had before was a JVC MiniDV machine with an IEEE1394 interface. When he was still using Windows, he could use the software provided with the camera to copy from the camera to the computer, and then he could e-mail clips out. Is there a USB or PC-Card video capture card that works in Linux? I don't think he'll have much luck connecting a PCI card like that to his old 486 with Win 3.11, so this has to be on the laptop. First get gscanbus to report proper hardware identification. Then, the simplest app is 'dvgrab'. There is a step-by-step (not the one known in these parts) in the sourceforge site I listed earlier.(http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/start_req.html) It guides you through setting it up and locating software to get you started. If you have a recent kernel (2.4 series), the patches they talk about are probably not needed. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Cool Mozilla tricks
On Wed, 29 May 2002 13:51:26 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dhtml menu bar for linux-sxs... :) I tried this BrainJar menu in a web site for our school's PTA. Damn was I suprised how many people did not have a recent browser. They all had Netscape 4.7x. I suggested to a few that they upgrade. A couple did, and then I got concerned calls because their bank did not support the 'new' browser. So, I sadly had to remove the menus... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Video CD
I have MainActor and BroadCast 2000 (before it went away). I don't do any editing yet. This is what I am starting to look into. But if the intended VCD player does not plat CD-R discs, I'm dead in the water. That is why I wanted to do a test. On Wed, 29 May 2002 12:26:05 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 02:05 am, you wrote: What do you currently use for video editing? I'm hoping to do some video conversion/possible editing in the future and would like to know what others are using and their opinions. Matt Whats wrong with MainActor for instance or even mjpegtools. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Video CD
On Wed, 29 May 2002 19:01:55 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 05:17 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images. You could always create your own from a short MPEG. OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual burn? Go to mjpeg.sourceforge.net and they have some short demo vcd's there. OK. I downloaded the sample that is a PAL VCD called pal-vid-vcd.mpg. This is the info from that file: Video 352x288 resolution Audio MPEG-1 Layer 2 224kbit/s 44100Hz stereo Size: 929600 Total time: 5.706667 Newbie time: can this be burned directly to the vcd disc? There is a FAQ at the site, but I could not determine if the file is already processed as needed and ready to burn. The text at the download said: Captured TV broadcast - default settings. Strict VCD/SVCD specs. Do I need to convert this file to a .cdr file to use it with crrdao? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Cool Mozilla tricks
On Wed, 29 May 2002 17:09:29 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I noticed that when I used mozilla to browser my company's website. The website guy refused to entertain mozilla until now. The banks may have other security concerns I guess they mostly trust IE and branded mozilla (netscape) only. I usually tell Netscape to pretend to be another browser for these sites. I just do no want to suggest this to others when they are doing their banking. Even though this works fine with my bank. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Video CD
On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, all i've got are several hundrede MB images. You could always create your own from a short MPEG. OK. Given that I have an MPEG file, how would I best convert it to a format for a VCD? Any special concerns when doing the actual burn? http://machineofthemonth.org/articles/a22/page4.html This is what I was looking for. I see that the mpeg file I downloaded is not liked by the tool described here. I would, of course, be better starting at the beginning, but the 'open buy' in Sweden is 7 days, and I don't have the video capture set up as I want for this yet. Oh well. This was a summer project that is getting ahead of itself. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Keystroke Capture
On Wed, 29 May 2002 18:23:18 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 09:19:45AM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Folks, Does anyone know of a function/product/tool that will allow us to capture all incoming keystrokes from the keyboard for investigation? We are getting an intermittent lockup that seems to be triggered by a keystroke pattern from a particular brand of keyboard and need to decipher*why*. One could run ``script'' which captures everything to a file. Or expect, which is surely already installed. You can even play it back to see if it is repeatable. Provided the codes make it out of the kernel. If there is a lockup, then a user-level app may be too late in the chain to tell very much. Have you checked for debugging options on the kernel keyboard stuff? Don't know if there is any, but you mey gety lucky. Does this heppen in X or in console mode? And, what exactly gets locked up? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO!'' ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Video CD
On Thu, 30 May 2002 06:44:04 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 08:03 pm, you wrote: No idea Roger, but looking at the site and title I would gues its ready to burn. Just have to suck it and see. I had hoped that would be the case. So I was going to jump in and use cdrdao. That was when it appeared that you cannot just put the mpeg file on the disc. I was (I think - not sure at this point) trying to use a utility to set up the mpeg file for eventual burinig. The program, vcdimager, died as follows: $ ./vcdimager -pv pal-vid-vcd.mpg --cue-file=xx.cue --bin-file=xx-bin --DEBUG: initializing libvcd 0.6.2 [linux-gnu/i686] INFO: scanning mpeg track #0 for scanpoints... **ERROR: mpeg scan: pack header code expected, but 0x01b9 found (buflen= 2324) Not what I expected. Obviously thre file format is not accepted by this utility. It seems the only format options are related to output format. OK. I downloaded the sample that is a PAL VCD called pal-vid-vcd.mpg. This is the info from that file: Video 352x288 resolution Audio MPEG-1 Layer 2 224kbit/s 44100Hz stereo Size: 929600 Total time: 5.706667 Newbie time: can this be burned directly to the vcd disc? There is a FAQ at the site, but I could not determine if the file is already processed as needed and ready to burn. The text at the download said: Captured TV broadcast - default settings. Strict VCD/SVCD specs. Do I need to convert this file to a .cdr file to use it with crrdao? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Shut UP! Konqueror
In the KDE control center, check out the Peripherals-CD-ROM tab. Turn off 'Open on insert'. On Thu, 30 May 2002 14:55:48 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really tired of seeing Konqueror every time I insert a CD. How do I shut it off without deleting everything I've grown used to about KDE? (This is the version that came with RH 7.1). ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html Life is short; eat dessert first! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Change the Owner of a Running Process
If the app belongs to root (chown root 'app'), then setting the SUID bit (chmod +s 'app') should result in the program running as root and not whoever mozilla is running as. Or whoever the app file belongs to. However, do heed the warnings below. I would never do this with an app I got somewhere. There are few cases where this is needed. If you just want to control app files so they do not belong to the user running mozilla, consider using the 'guest' account or some other non-privleged account. Do the same two commands listed above, replacing root with guest. On Fri, 31 May 2002 17:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2002, Jason Joines wrote: Is there anyway to change the owner of a running process? I have a kiosk machine that only runs mozilla under the ID of browser. I would like to change the owner of the process to root once mozilla has started so that users would not be able to kill the browser. I'm not sure that what you're trying to do is possible. And even if it was, i think it would be extremely dangerous. For starters, i don't think having root own the process would prevent someone from killing the browser. You can't really control who does what with an X app once its on the screen running. Also, if the browser was running as root, the person could gain access to the entire filesystem, with the ability to alter it. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: first Linux/windoze virus
On Fri, 31 May 2002 18:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or is there no explanation of how it is spread? I saw this as well. No mention that getting a virus code into an ELF is one thing, getting the program to be run is a different thing altogether. Why do they think . is not in the path? I think what they mean is that someone figured out that the ELF format allows some interesting overrides of system calls and the like. Not a virus in and of itself. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Shut UP! Konqueror
Could it be Caldera have more than RedHat? :-) I thought it was a generic KDE thing. Maybe this is a Caldera extension. What version of KDE are you running? Mine looks like the attached graphic. On Fri, 31 May 2002 10:06:40 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That tab does not exist. I have only keyboard and mouse under Peripherals. I wonder where it went? ++ kevin On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:54:10PM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: In the KDE control center, check out the Peripherals-CD-ROM tab. Turn off 'Open on insert'. On Thu, 30 May 2002 14:55:48 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really tired of seeing Konqueror every time I insert a CD. How do I shut it off without deleting everything I've grown used to about KDE? (This is the version that came with RH 7.1). ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html Life is short; eat dessert first! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ kcc.gif Description: GIF image
Re: OpenOffice
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 23:30:57 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any intense experience with openoffice, in particular, the spreadsheet? I used to use StarOffice 5.2 but gave it up in favor of vi and Excel (running under win4lin). (Obviously, I don't have to exchange text documents at work, just spreadsheets.) I was never happy with the spreadsheet in SO. The spreadsheet in staroffice didn't have built in functions for data analysis, as far as I could find, and was awkward in other ways, not nearly as nice as Excel. And, I had to have painless compatibility with Excel. I just got an excel spreadsheel that did all kind of funny lookups via excel functions. I did not expect it to work in OO 1.0. Well, it did. Perfectly. As I understand it, OO 1.0 has most all the excel functions, as well as a BASIC scripting language. I don't know how/if the BASIC matches what people would use in excel, but the functions are supposed to be compatible. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: mail server suggestions?
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm no mail admin, but from what others who are mail admins tell me, exim is miles easier to learn than Sendmail, and just as configurable. I use exim. It is easier to configure, and it is command-libe compatible with sendmail. So, it can be used as a sendmail replacement (from a command-line invocation POV). It also has a GUI to monitor the mail queue and allow you to deal with messages as is appropriate. I also user Majordomo with it. Keep in mind that if you will be running any anti-spam or -viri doodads, then you may need to be running sendmail. Depends on the doodad. But most seem to target sendmail. If you plan on doing any imap stuff, then you need to be sure that the mailer stores files in a way that the imap software can use. I have not yet found an imap server that will server up exim's files. Of course, I have not looked very hard (yet). On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Myles Green wrote: I find myself needing to set up a mail server for multiple (remote) users and was wondering what package(s) might be best. I was going to just use sendmail but if there's something better well, I'd like to hear some opinions. TIA, myles -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: compiling qt3 - what is the difference between logging in as root as sued in? kieth
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 19:02:41 +0100 Pam R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 1:33 pm, James McDonald wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 7:37, you wrote: snip Ok I will save that to a .sh script. However one thing you left out is that I have to remember to be in root and not sued in grin. /snip Is this because your on caldera? Because I did mine while sued in and now I am worried that I have messed up... Compiling qt3 on EW3.1? I have always done it with su, never as a real root, and don't have any problems. su or real login has no effect at all in any fashion on your user permissions. In fact, 'su -' is 'just like logging in'. Without the '-' option to su, you miss the user's login scripts, but permissions ar the same. root's login scripts don't change anything at all relative to compiling. So, if there is a problem, look elsewhere. Did you compile qt in one place and then move it? That is the main no no. The main reason for compiling qt as root is so the libs will belong to other that a normal user, improving security if the file permissions are right. I don't know if qt leaves compiled libs in such a way that they cannot be replaced by other than the lib's owners (e.g., read-only for EVERYONE). Packages that have an install step usually do this. But qt just compiles and goes. In fact, you mentioned a possible messup. But, in fact, has anything gone wrong? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gphoto install
If INSTALL is a script, what happens if you do: . ./INSTALL On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:09:29 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronnie Gauthier wrote: just for grins did you do a chmod 755 INSTALL Is INSTALL the file name correct case? Tried that and get a no such file or directory error message. On Wednesday 05 June 2002 10:30 am, Lee wrote: SNIP ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gphoto install
A readme? Why was the original poster trying to run it? I was wondering at the uppercase name. On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INSTALL isn't a script, its equivalent to a README. I Still fail to understand what the source of confusion is here. Building gphoto is *easy*: ./configure make make install -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gphoto install
Now I need to see if gphoto2 is finally supporting a Nikon CoolPix 990 over the USB. Last I checked it was iffy at best. It does not appear as a disk. Instead, there is a command set to control it. There are libs, but I think the USB stuff was not too good last time I tried. I just will say 'no' to running 'INSTALL'. On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: A readme? Why was the original poster trying to run it? *shrug* I'm still wondering the same thing. There is nothing different or unusual about how you build/install gphoto, assuming that you read the dox. I was wondering at the uppercase name. On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INSTALL isn't a script, its equivalent to a README. I Still fail to understand what the source of confusion is here. Building gphoto is *easy*: ./configure make make install -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gphoto install
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:03:54 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have little USB camera experience, but when setting up my dad's MDC8000 for him, it was as simple as plugging it in and telling gphoto what and where is was (/dev/usb/mdc8000), which was exactly like what I did for the serial-connection. I wish that were the case here. The Nikon 990 (and a bunch of other cameras based on the same chipset) use a protocol not supported in gphoto/gphoto2. At least last time I checked. One needed to use a user-land lib to manipulate the USB, and then play the protocol over this interface. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gphoto2 USB access
Although this is in fstab, it is something that is not really mounted by a user. If you check subdirs there, you will see entries come and go as USP devices are added or taken away. It is used as info for things like user-land libusb. These files are not opened to access the device. Only to tell which devices are present. On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:00:02 -0700 Tom Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 12:24, Net Llama! carved in granite: This is very weird. It opens the USB device earlier, but then can't later on. You don't have anything in fstab that is setting perms on the USB devices? Slimy dogs! I didn't even know that something if fstab would affect the USB devices. But there it is: usbdevfs/proc/bus/usb usbdevfsnoauto 0 0 So, the obvious answer to me was that I should change the usbdevfs to have the user option set. But the same error message resulted when it was changed to: usbdevfs/proc/bus/usb usbdevfsnoauto,user 0 0 In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Barbershop Bass Singer ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: gphoto install
This was the thing I used before. I see on the hardware page they say 'with some glitches' after the 990. Same as before. Still, I will try again and see if it is better. One of the glitches was that it deleted all the images from the camera for no obvious reason. Of course, my testing was with a set of junk images. On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fairly certain that photopc (and my GUI for it, tygemo, see sig below) supports the Nikon camera. On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:03:54 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have little USB camera experience, but when setting up my dad's MDC8000 for him, it was as simple as plugging it in and telling gphoto what and where is was (/dev/usb/mdc8000), which was exactly like what I did for the serial-connection. I wish that were the case here. The Nikon 990 (and a bunch of other cameras based on the same chipset) use a protocol not supported in gphoto/gphoto2. At least last time I checked. One needed to use a user-land lib to manipulate the USB, and then play the protocol over this interface. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: was all of the Linux team laid off at Caldera?
It was posted direct to me (I don't know why). The name is in the message, but the guy asked not to be identified. So I will respect that. It did not come from a caldera.com address. On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:08:16 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also sprach Net Llama!: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=94 anyone have a URL for the infamous email? Nope, just Roger O's posting of it, which you can view at the Caldera mail archive at mail-archive.com... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Interesting discover
www.spinner.com On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:37:44 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the URL? On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:50:12 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have realplayer installed. Today got Spam from Netscape called What's New. Typical music push for their spinner net music. Just for the heck of hit the access site. Taken to a page with their offers, also had listing for their canned music on spinner.com. Selected classical then barque from the menu and WOW! The thing plays! The player isn't realplayer, but a vastly stripped down version of the Spinner player. Strange. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ken Moffat kmoffat@(nospam)drizzle.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: was all of the Linux team laid off at Caldera?
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:52:26 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also sprach Roger Oberholtzer: It was posted direct to me (I don't know why). The name is in the message, but the guy asked not to be identified. So I will respect that. It did not come from a caldera.com address. Are you certain it was a (former) Caldera employee? One clue: it was from a .de e-mail address. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTThe Net Tightens
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:01:35 -0500 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:47:20 + Terence McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stand Sounds like you people in the mother country are about to have a sticky wicket thereg. While this is not funny yet you do have a problem. You all need to nip this in the bud. This could spread to the colonies you know. They probably just want to track my mobile phone usage near petrol stations. I always get animated screams over that one. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:45:17 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to run a second instance as the same user. I just want to be able to click on a link, say in Kmail, and have the silly thing come up. Works in every other browser known to mankind. Yes. You can run it twice from within. But from without it refuses. Tabbed browsing only works from within the app. Where is -remoteURL(foo) documented? I've now seen 4 different versions of this sort of option and can't find the real deal anywhere? I'd like to RTFM if I could find one. As of Mozilla 1.0, this is different. The command is: mozilla -remote openurl(%s,new-window) replacing %s with whatever gets the name of the url you want. Check out: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html (I got the address from running 'mozilla --help') -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature
I doubt redhat 7.3 has mozilla 1.0. It was just released. That is when the problem started. It was different in 0,99. the new_window thing just makes each link open a new window - but it is the same mozilla. Without this option, each link replaces the current one. This is a matter of preference. On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:03:27 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is odd. I'm in redhat 7.3 and mozilla opens a new window from sylpheed using the command mozilla %s. If I use mozilla -remote openurl(%s,new-window) it works as well. If I remove the new-window, leaving mozilla -remote openurl(%s) it uses the existing instance of mozilla. I currently have 2 mozilla windows open, and the url is opened in the window on the same desktop as sylpheed. Probably just normal behavior, thought I'd throw it in here. On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:04:51 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:45:17 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to run a second instance as the same user. I just want to be able to click on a link, say in Kmail, and have the silly thing come up. Works in every other browser known to mankind. Yes. You can run it twice from within. But from without it refuses. Tabbed browsing only works from within the app. Where is -remoteURL(foo) documented? I've now seen 4 different versions of this sort of option and can't find the real deal anywhere? I'd like to RTFM if I could find one. As of Mozilla 1.0, this is different. The command is: mozilla -remote openurl(%s,new-window) replacing %s with whatever gets the name of the url you want. Check out: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html (I got the address from running 'mozilla --help') -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ken Moffat kmoffat@(nospam)drizzle.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:04:47 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you post it? I am about subscribed out. I get so much junk-email that I'm taking a break from registering from anything superfluous. What I do is have a 'dummy' yahoo account for this type of thing. Then, let the spammers get messages that the mailbox is full. Why use a 'real' address? If you need to get some password via it, empty it first, then just get that message. Then forget it for a while. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Can't access printer - Never mind
I see that CUPS has user vs. system defaults. Maybe a user default was set that, unless explicitly set in a global setting, is overriding the settings for each user. Some menu items have 'Set as user default' and some just 'Set as default'. I am convinced that this duality of settings caused me similiar problems with CUPS a while back. I like the concept, but don't feel I understand which parts are effected by each 'class' of settings. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:18:10 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the current reigning religion in this part of the world has always been numbered with those who prefer not have the common man think. Don't think. Just believe what the shaman, priest, televanglist Not just this part of the world. I was in Riyadh a while back and Saudi TV has a segment where an Islamic scholar answers questions from letters. I vividly recall one in which the viewer asked why they circled Mohammad's 'house' seven times (in Mecca - a very important thing to do). The person wanted to know because his non-islamic friends had asked and he had no answer. Instead of explaining why, the scholar strongly chastised the guy for attempting to answer questions. The, after all, was the job of scholars who are educated to know the reasons. It is not the job of an untrained believer. He went so far as to say that the person was getting involved in things that the Koran specifically forbade - offering opinions about which wou know nothing. After finishing the tirade, he went to the next letter - never having answered the actual question! What I thought was most odd was that the letter writer did NOT offer an opinion to his non-islamic friends. He consulted an islamic scholar for correct information. For which he wes publicly chastised. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?
I define a procedure that will be called. In this case, it prints a message
and then calls my Exit procedure for a tidy exit:
#
# Catch program termination.
#
interrupt ()
{
cat *EOF*
ERROR: The backup was interrupted before it was complete. This means
that you must re-do the backup or risk loosing the files.
*EOF*
Exit ${FAILURE}
}
trap interrupt 2 3
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:48:03 +1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umm I was wondering if there is anyway of breaking out of a script by
capturing the CTRL+C combination and completey exiting the script I am
running the following and if the login fails it still trys to go through
the entire 'for in do'
Thanks
#!/bin/sh
# login to cvs
me=$0
export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
cvs login
for i in `echo *`
do
echo Checking Out $i
cvs -z3 co -PA $i
done
cvs logout
echo $0 Done
--
James McDonald
MCSE (Windows 2000/NT4), CCNA, CCA, MCP + I
Registered Linux User #209832
http://jamesmcd.dns2go.com (home)
Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma)
8:44pm up 11:41, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.10, 0.03
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Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just don't consider typing ./configure, make, make install to be some kind of test of manhood. I'll compile the files if necessary but I like the ease of use of rpm's. I prefer to update, remove, and rebuild packages using rpm. However, I understand perfectly well why rpm's aren't always provided. Or at least a .spec file, and then you could type: make rpm, or better yet, a source rpm, so you could rmp --rebuild it. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:59:00 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing like trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe Palladium will help? (He said with a wink and a grin, and a bad feeling in his stomach.) I could see it being sold for this in some areas by some NW USA company or other. Not to say it would do this. That is another story. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader
Anyone know if these work with exim? I have a feeling I would have to give up my favorite MTA to get this capability. Surely that would not be the case. I will have to investigate. On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:56:07 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael: I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well as my other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It then calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also throw Anomy::HTML in their to check inbound HTML email as well. All are open source projects and I have had NO issues with them. You will need the latest Sendmail and you need to have it compiled with libmilter turned on (see the SxS). After that, it's fairly easy to install the Perl modules. I would install Razor, then SpamAssassin, then File::Scan and finally MIMEDefang (everything will autodetect each other this way). Let me know if you have questions. - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9GfI0SrrWWknCnMIRAof1AKCdTTdbJL9G/BQBV0x4/bafyjzPEgCfZdyC scrhDeTmj2OjmN/pQpFIOlU= =MZ53 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:11:16 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also sprach James McDonald: Umm I was wondering if there is anyway of breaking out of a script by capturing the CTRL+C combination and completey exiting the script I am You should be able to use the trap builtin (if you're using bash). as well as sh and ksh/pdksh, which is as far as my shell use goes. I would expect csh/zsh/tcsh all have the capability. wish uses a 'bind' command to trap things (both real and virtual). Oddly, most people don't consider wish/tclsh when making 'shell' scripts. Too bad. Works great. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: /boot partition and modules/kernels
Do you mean the initrd (initial RAM disk), which is in /boot? That is where you place some modules needed by the kernel. Mainly those relating to eventually accessing the root disk, where the remaining things are then found. Are you wanting to place other modules there? Unless you hack the setup, they will not be used. After the kernel loads the drivrs needed to mount the root partition, this ram disk is deleted. I do not think the kernel will load other modules there. Of course, I bet there is a script somewhere that controls this at boot time. But it is all in the initrd stuff. On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:17:16 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember reading about someone keeing a /boot partition which holds their kernels as well as /lib/modules/2.x.x-x directories, which are then linked to in the original locations... I have attempted this and have been running face first into a wall when attempting to load modules... I'd be interested in hearing some pointers on this one. I believe I read it in a post by David Bandel. TIA, Matt ps. And sorry for the OT-TID thread. I didn't mean for it to get out of hand like that. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: EDI in linux (everone PLEASE read)
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:10:36 -0500 Ben Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although everone has a favorite language. when designing such a system, one must compare cababilties, ease of programming, acceptance, and extensiability. Perl, being a favorite of many people, I find lacking in handling easily, the 3 dimension strings and arrays that would be required. Python seems to handle these strings and file access in a more straight forward (ok GROUP everone chime in here, you want hurt my feelings on pro's and con's of languagues to use). C would get the job down, but be take a lot of codeing. C++, I have absolutely NO CLUE, as well as JAVA, since I find Object Oriented Programming - strange -. GNU/COBOL would work because COBOL is designed to manipulate DATA in that fashion ( or as an alternative KOBOL from The Kompany - which is a Commercial COBOL compiler, but priced at $40 USD - which is within my budget). Interrupted languages such as Perl, Python, Tk/Tcl, would probably get slow in having to deal with such large characters strings, as used in EDI ... Tcl, at least, has been reimplemented with binary objects. So, the older need to convert strings back and forth to binary numners is largely gone. Searching for strings in Tcl is probably as fast as for any just in time compiled language (when Sun supported Tcl, it got a byte compiler that also sped things up quite a bit). Since Tcl itself traditionally ran string-based scripts, it has always had great string handling functions and well implemented hash tables. Although our web site software is pulling me into python, all GUI apps that we develop are in Tcl/Tk. We need cross-platform support. OTOH, Tcl's default object orientation is a bit 'different'. However, you can choose from a number of OO implementations to meet your taste. Tcl itself does not impose only one model. There are varying opinions as to whether this is a strength. (I see it as one.) -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Rant......
I thought the Herd project was older than Linux. It just never really took off. Linux is what Hurd was supposed to be, more or less. Right? I think RS is po'd that Linux beat Herd to the punch. On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:52:21 -1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? HERD...? Wasn't the herd kernel a response of Richard Stallman to his disappointment at not getting the appropriate recognition for all the gnu utilities that have been pivotal in Linux becoming what it is today? Or so I read somewhere in Linux Format or Linux Journal. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small computer
I asked. I have seen this. It is quite nice. The proviso on my question was that it had to hold a full length PCI card. On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 05:22:13 -0500 ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while ago someone had asked about small sized computer boxes. You could darn near slip this one in your pocket. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=n52-1042 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: small computer
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:10:11 -0500 ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: always that little gotcha somewhere. More than little. It is a real problem. We use a DSP card that is this size. And this size is getting very unpopular. Fewer and fewer boxes support it. The ones that do seem to go to the extreme. Oddly, both Dell and IBM have 1U serveres that will hold such a card. Thin, but 60CM deep. On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:37:58 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked. I have seen this. It is quite nice. The proviso on my question was that it had to hold a full length PCI card. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Intel LaGrande
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:46:04 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 20 September 2002 10:44 am,Pam R wrote: snip Palladium is an opt-in system. Palladium is entirely an opt-in solution; systems will ship with the Palladium hardware and software features turned off. The user of the system can choose to simply stay with this default setting, leaving all Palladium-related capabilities (hardware and software) disabled. For now. Forgive me, but I'm paranoid. It seems like it's not much of a step to make this permanent. It changes what can be believed from your computer. So if your Linux box cannot generate the info needed, your interactions with the outside world will be limited. As MS say, you can run whatever software you want on your machine. But try talking to another machine... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Intel LaGrande
I would like to know who is going to run the certification program. All these trusted apps will have to get certs. When every program needs one it it is going to interact on a network, the whole cert thing must surely be fully layed out. On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Pam R wrote: Turning Palladium completely off includes turning it off in hardware, which prevents any software from turning it back on. Users have the ultimate control over their systems and their information; Palladium does not entail any global requirements. You can turn this off, but then you can only talk over the net to apps that will listen to such machines. All those Linux servers out there will probably oblige. We are really talking about the MS network services that will not listen to your box. So, in England, for example, where the government has set up all public information in an MS solution, all citizens wishing to access government info will have to run Palladium complieant software. Or be shut out. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LINUX: The Code
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:21:28 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a few weeks ago. A bit of a disapointment. For starters, its a Finish (as in the country) documentary, so chunks of it are not in English (and there are no subtitles). If you don't know anything about You mean everyone on a Linux list is not fluent in Finnish? I am stunned. Linux is, after all, an attempt by the Finnish government to extend the use of the national language. First, create the interest. Then see that Linus only communicates (spoken and written) in Finnish after we are all hooked. I think on Ney Years Eve of 2003 all Nokia phones will only do Finnish. It is all a concerted effort... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: United Linux Public Beta
No mirror in Europe? Is SuSE making the same thing available? That is, how much of the UL beta is Caldera-specific and how much is the shared distro? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
httpd proxy
I always used to use Apache as an httpd proxy. However, what experience has anyone had with alternatives? Good bad things. Gottchas. I know about squid, but I am not really looking for an intelligent cache. Just a proxy. It should handle ftp and https as well. Any suggestions? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: httpd proxy
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:38:55 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you meant squid? ignore me if it was not. No. I currently use Apache as a proxy. Always have. Works nice. It is only a proxy for internal boxes accessing the outside. All other proxy requests are ignored. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I always used to use Apache as an httpd proxy. However, what experience has anyone had with alternatives? Good bad things. Gottchas. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: httpd proxy
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:57:47 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using squid... havne't checked out the apache possibility. thanks for the info. still quite afraid to compile apaache + mods... It doesn't bite. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: httpd proxy
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:46:44 -0500 Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using apache a proxy to masquerade you internal boxes..? I know ipchains are a thing of the past. but there is a very good reliable firewall/masquerade program call PMFirewall. I have used it for a long time with out any major problems. Ihave used it on dialup and with broadband. They(PMFirewall code gurus) are currently working on a IPTable program as well.. they have a beta but it is not ready to get around. Apache does this quite well. I am not unhappy with what it is doing. It is just that as Apache is no longer serving local content, maybe something that is primarily a server would be a better proxy. External proxy connections are attempted on port 80, just like regular http requests. I don't want to block port 80, as we do have a valid server there. It is the content of the commands on port 80, not who they are from, that triggers the blocking. At least I think it is this way. In fact, we have our internal proxy on a non-standard port. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux 8.0 now available on Red Hat Network]
On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:46:47 -0300 Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:38:58 -0400, Lee wrote: On Tuesday 01 October 2002 11:25 am, you wrote: How is this an about server sales following a good desktop? This one is more like RH being the dominant server Linux now wanting to take on Mandrake, et. al. on the desktop. Just what Ransome Love was trying to do, except that the economy and his own public relations ineptitude got in the way. I don't think so. 3.1 as a desktop is more of an aftert hought than an attempt to capture the desktop market. After 2.4 and burning his bridges behind him by insulting the desktop users Love and company made a great hullaballo about emphasis on big money business server and service markets. Sorry, but OL 3.x Workstation (notice the change from desktop to workstation) was targeted to developers. Someone has to develop the apps you run on the server (be it COL 3.x server or OpenUNIX 8 using LKP). It was never meant to be a desktop and, AFAIK, it was part of the plan from the start. dead horse abuse: That was the hype. Yet, as a developer, I am struck by the lack of so many libraries. Some are on the supplamental CD (e.g., gnome and all), but that is a dead give-away that they were not part of the core distro design. Also, as a developer, it is hard to just use libs that are a couple of years old. Developers, by their nature, must stay up with the latest in the tools they use. Caldera made a snapshot of often outdated-at-release tools and then have no mechanisim (which could include fostering user support, no one expectes Caldera to do it all themselves) in place for maintaining 3.1 as a development platform. Of course, if you only develop for 3.1, then you are set. Or so you would think. Want to compile a new app? It probably needs versions of libs/tools that are newer. Fact of life. The stable Caldera platform need not itself be made with cutting edge development tools. But not providing the developers you want to use your system with these tools is a big oversight. Developers are pretty smart and can usually get and install these tools themselves. But this begs the question: if you have to locate, maintain and install the tools you need, just what is this development platform providing that makes it a development platform? JMTCW Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore, does it?? :) As long as the UL base has as a target the desktop. Otherwise, based on past performance, I doubt Caldera will target this themselves with add-ons. Still, I am taking a wait and see approach. I would love to be suprised. OK. I know I will, but how about pleasantly this time... Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Converting doc (Word documents) to html in batch mode
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:37:56 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do, I haven't. Since wv seems to work fine on the command line, I think my search is over for now. Also, wv and libwmf are used by programs like antiword to import the MS docs. It is a library upon which many tools are based. I use it in Zope to allow users to upload MS docs that are magically available as HTML from that point on. There are similiar tools for RTF, PDF, PPT and OpenOffice. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT alternatives to groupwise?
On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 19:24:02 -0700 (PDT) stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:35:51 -0400, Douglas J Hunley wrote: I got roped into a project to re-architect the enterprise email system here at the state. groupwise is the incumbent here, I'm tryuing to pitch sendmail switch. of course, exchange is also out there, and lotus notes/domino. what else are people using? named and URLs would be great. thanks You might take a look at qmail. Its been rock solid here for several months now. My MTA is exim. www.exim.org I think is also comes down to what the e-mail MTA should / should not do. Spam filtering? Aggressive relay control? Mailing lists? IMAP? Virus detection? Some MTAs are better/easier to set up with these things than others. -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video capture
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:19:26 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think my letter about video capture never made it to the list, so I'll try again. We are going to get a digital photomicroscope for our pathology lab. I am not satisfied with the software demonstrated thus far. Awkward and too many steps involved in capturing and saving an image. So, is there a linux solution? The camera has 3.1 million pixels. The digital camera has a firewire connection. What video cards and video capture software are available for linux? If it is firewire, the support is very good. Just be clear when you are looking for software that you differentiate between digital camera and digital video. They each have their own standard and thus software. I would imagine that your device is a camera that provides distinct non-compressed images. If it is a digital camera, then check out coriander. It is a general purpose firewire camera grabber and will even stream it with real media. Or just simply save it to disk. It is a GUI-type program. It is based on two libraries that do the dirty work of getting the images. So it is also quite easy to make your own app. Just be sure to get an OHCI-type firewire card, as they support DMA for great speed. Also, a video card that supports the X video extension is good to have (type xvinfo to see if yours does). We use NVidia's X drivers with their cards and are quite happy. We have such a setup and it allows us to show live 1280x960 7.5 fps images while our software is busy doing its other jobs. If it is digital video, then the very simplest program is dvgrab. It just grabs video info to a disk. But I suspect yours is not digital video. I want to be able to capture, save, and label the image with a single click or keystroke. This scope will be used by physicians, so the software has got to be absolutely easy to use and fool proof. All very doable. And easy. I have a command line program that we use for testing connectivity that allows basically that. You are welcome to it. If nothing else, it shows how easy it is to do this sort of thing if the available tools don't quite meet your needs. In our measurement system, we obviously had to make a custom solution. But the libraries for accessing this equipment made it painless. Also check out http://www.linux1394.org/ -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Gentoo question
I am planning on trying a gentoo install. I would like it all in one partition. Is this possible? The docs talk about different partitions for boot and root. If I use a file system type that /boot expects (ext3), and I change the mount tables (/etc/fstab), what are my chances that it will work. How many partitions can you have on a somewhat new 80 GB disk? I still have the 4 partitions idea. Out of date here? I have never really needed more on one system, so I never checked... -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gentoo question
I have a partition with user accounts and all my stuff, whihc is not in any OS partition. I typically make a partition for the OS itself, putting the whole OS in the one partition. Selecting the partition gets me the OS. Caldera, as an example, lets me put the partitions how I want. I was just wondering to what extent Gentoo allows this as well. On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:54:13 +0800 m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's better to have different partitions esp if you plan to upgrade your linux from time to time or you want to play with multiple versions of linux. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I am planning on trying a gentoo install. I would like it all in one partition. Is this possible? The docs talk about different partitions for boot and root. If I use a file system type that /boot expects (ext3), -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust. / v \ news://news.hkpcug.org /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gentoo question
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:28:51 + Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning on trying a gentoo install. I would like it all in one partition. Is this possible? The docs talk about different partitions for boot and root. Just decline to create the /boot partition and don't mount it when clled for during the install. After installation is complete and before rebooting, eliminate the line in /etc/fstab for the /boot partition. You may need to do something with grub on gentoo as well. Since I mave multiple distros, I don't do the grub work recommended in the gentoo install, but rather add the gentoo boot stanza to my existing grub menu.lst. 'decline'? I was planning on following the steps for a stage 3 install. Do you mean, perhaps, 'skip the part about...' in the steps? You can have 3 primary, one extended, and a very large number of logical partitions under the extended partition. I don't remember what the limit is for logical partitions. I use logical partitions for most everything. As I expected. Now, given that I have installed a zillion Unix/Linux distros, you would think I know the answer to this: Will Linux (specifically gentoo) allow me to put these various parts (e.g., /boot) in logical partitions in the extended partition? Is there any point? -- ++===+ | Roger Oberholtzer | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | OPQ Systems AB | WWW: http://www.opq.se/ | | Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 |Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 | | 115 32 Stockholm | Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 | | Sweden | Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 | ++===+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
