couple of quick stupid questions

2002-02-12 Thread Douglas J Hunley

1. what's the linux-users channel on IRC? I forget...
2. can one create a hyperlink in HTML to an irc channel? if so, how?
3. anyone know of an irc-html forum (and vice-versa) gateway?
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Re: couple of quick stupid questions

2002-02-12 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Federico Voges babbled on about:
 Doug,

 1. Channel: #linux-users
Server: irc.openprojects.net

 2. irc://irc.openprojects.net/#linux-users ??

 3. Er, what do you mean?? A web frontend for IRC?? If so, have a look
 at http://www.phpwizard.net/projects/phpChat/ 
 http://www.phpwizard.net/projects/phpIRC/


danke
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new feature for linux.nf

2002-02-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley

I managed somehow today to find time to figure out how to make SpamAssassin 
run as a sendmail milter. So, as of this afternoon (11-feb-02) all mail into 
and out of linux.nf is scanned for spam. Please note that this will NOT 
prevent the spam from getting through, but all mail recognized as spam will 
be clearly marked as such. In fact, the subject will look like:
*SPAM* normal subject

I think that's pretty easy to filter on. Don't you?
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Re: new feature for linux.nf

2002-02-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Douglas J Hunley babbled on about:
 I managed somehow today to find time to figure out how to make SpamAssassin
 run as a sendmail milter. So, as of this afternoon (11-feb-02) all mail
 into and out of linux.nf is scanned for spam. Please note that this will
 NOT prevent the spam from getting through, but all mail recognized as spam
 will be clearly marked as such. In fact, the subject will look like:
 *SPAM* normal subject

 I think that's pretty easy to filter on. Don't you?

oh. forgot to add. do NOT send me mail that gets flagged as spam that is not. 
I'll see it and fix it. thanks
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hey dep

2002-02-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

just read your article on kde3. nice!
how in the fsck did you kill that stupid alarm deamon? thanks
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Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Peter Ruskin babbled on about:
 I have to say I haven't studied any manuals about this (because it works
 for me®) - it came from a tip by a guru on kde-linux list.

I don't use that. I just run startx with the --dpi 100 option
you should be able to edit /etc/X11/kdm/something or other as well
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Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Michael Hipp babbled on about:
 I finally got around to doing *all* the stuff in SxS - XFREE - XFree410.
 What a difference!

 My Linux box no longer has to bow its head in shame next to the W2k machine
 for readabilty. And my 41-year-old eyeballs will forever be indebted.

Please, call me Doug.

I'm glad that it worked for you! Did you catch the latest additions I put up 
about Mesa and Freetype? 

No thanks needed. Just knowing that it worked for you is thanks enough
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Re: X420 how to...

2002-02-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Jerry McBride babbled on about:
 Thanks Doug. Nice step-x-step. What I was missing was all the hacking to
 the config scripts.


that was one of the reasons I wrote the XFree86 steps... too much was 
involved in getting it to work right. and the information was scattered round 
the ether...
Glad to hear it worked for you. Gives me incentive to keep hacking
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{RFC} sendmail sxs

2002-02-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

I don't normally do this, but seeing as everyone uses sendmail for something 
else and uses some other feature that no one else uses, I expect to get a big 
benefit from this.
Attached is the *start* of a sendmail sxs. Please review, 
and reply with comments, additions, etc.
I'm hoping to buld out a section of the site for sendmail and all the things 
can be done with it (the various addressing games, anti-virus interfaces, 
spam killer interfaces, etc) so all comments (or even better, small 
write-ups) are welcome.
Please refrain from 'use postfix' and other such 
comments. those programs are getting write-ups in the near future on their 
own merits. we're dealing with demystifing sendmail right now. thanks!

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2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c

Title: Sendmail - from the source

  

  




  

  
  

   
   

  

  



Sendmail - from the source


This document describes installing Sendmail to utilize some of it's neater features,
to be a little more secure (we will run Sendmail under a non-root id), and so we
have a better understanding of Sendmail itself. Please note that we assume you
have already installed Procmail.

Since early in the 11.x series, Sendmail's milter interface has been greatly improved
and enhanced. We are going to build Sendmail with its libmilter feature turned on. We do
this because the milter interface is the preferred method of enhancing and extending
Sendmail. The milter interface can be used to "hook" anti-spam, anti-virus, and many
other features into the Sendmail daemon. If you're interested, please see
www.milter.org for the latest developments in
milter features.


Download the latest source archive from www.sendmail.org
 and extract it

tar zxvf sendmail.8.x.x.tar.gz

Create Sendmail's needed directories, and ensure their proper permissions/ownerships

mkdir -p /etc/mail /var/spool/mqueue /var/spool/clientmqueue
chmod go-w / /etc /etc/mail /usr /var /var/spool

Add our new user and group for Sendmail to run as

groupadd smmsp
useradd -G smmsp smmsp

Ensure ownership of needed directories

chown root / /etc /etc/mail /usr /var /var/spool /var/spool/mqueue
chown smmsp:smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue
chmod 770 /var/spool/clientmqueue
chmod 700 /var/spool/mqueue

Configure Sendmail to use the libmilter interface

cd sendmail-8.x.x
vi devtools/Site/site.config.m4

insert the line:
APPENDDEF(`conf_sendmail_ENVDEF', `-DMILTER')
please note that the above are NOT all single-quotes. they are:
backtick,quote,backtick,quote


Build and instal libmilter

cd libmilter
sh Build  sh Build install

Build the sendmail daemon

cd ../sendmail
sh Build  sh Build install

you should see  '-DMILTER' periodically during the compile


Now we need to configure and build the dreaded CF files

cd ../cf/cf
cp generic-linux.mc config.mc
vi config.mc

jump down to the line that says 'DOMAIN(generic)dnl'
insert the following lines:

FEATURE(local_procmail)dnl
FEATURE(smrsh,`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl
FEATURE(nouucp,`reject')dnl

This defines procmail as the LDA (local delivery agent)
This moves smrsh (Sendmail restricted shell) to a more sensible location
This turns off UUCP messaging and generates a 'reject' for anyone who tries to use UUCP

sh Build config.cf
mv config.cf sendmail.cf  cp sendmail.cf submit.cf /etc/mail

The supporting tools are now built and installed

cd ../..
sh Build  sh Build install

Final configuration

cd /etc
ln -sf mail/aliases
ln -sf mail/sendmail.cf
vi sendmail.cf

Find HelpFile and change it to:

HelpFile=

Find PrivacyOptions and change it to:

PrivacyOptions=authwarnings,goaway,noreceipts,noexpn,novrfy,noetrn,needmailhelo,restrictmailq,restrictqrun,restrictexpand

Find SmtpGreetingMessage and change it to:

SmtpGreetingMessage=

Find HostStatusDirectory and uncomment it

Rebuild your aliases file

newaliases




Decide if you machine is going to accept incoming mail from other systems, or if it is going to only send outbound mail.
If you have no need for incoming mail on this machine, edit your sendmail startup script (usually in /etc/rc.d somewhere)
and change the sendmail options from:

sendmail -bd -q30m

to:

sendmail -q30m


This will prevent sendmail from starting up as a listening deamon.

Enjoy!


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Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Michael Hipp babbled on about:
 What's the *proper* way to do this (verify the libs)?

rpm -q -a|more


   P.S. I recommend you run XFree86 in 100 DPI mode for best results.

 How is this done?

xdpyinfo|grep resol
then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other?


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Linux StepByStep monthly updates

2002-02-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley

It's been a fairly busy month at Linux StepByStep again. We've put up the 
following additions to the stie:
28th
FTP - Servers - ProFTPD (Chang)
-

25th
Bind 9 - clarifications on the secret key needed for rndc (Douglas Hunley)
-

21st
FREEBSD (Added to Left Menu)
FREEBSD - Intro to FreeBSD (C.Richey)
-

20th
WARNING - Proper French Translation (Patrick)
-

18th
Timekeeping - Automatic Sync (Added 'netdate' option c/o K. Cullis)
-

17th
Bedtime Reading - Partitions (proper German by Hermann-Josef)
Distros - Reviews - Redmond (update)
-

16th
Bedtime Reading - IDE cd burners (revised)
Programming - kbhit() example (revised) (Anders Brander / Mike A)
Added [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list and newsgroup for BSD discussion (Doug
Hunley)
-

12th
KDE2-Soundbug (Mike Andrew)

Bedtime Reading- CD Burners (Mike Andrew)
CD BURNERS - Bedtime Reading
-

4th
Added new bios of the Editors (Front Page-Snapshots) (Doug Hunley)
Moved all mirror-related content to new mirror subdir (Doug Hunley)
Bind/DNS- major re-org/cleanup. new security additions, and rdnc info (Doug
Hunley)
PALMPILOT-GUI INTERFACES (Susan/Alan) moved
PALMPILOT-PROGRAMMING-Rapid Development Tool Install
-EMULATOR
-SDK
-PILRC
-PRCTOOLS
-Putting it all together
-

3rd
Moved copyright and privacy notice to new legal directory (Doug Hunley)
Proper German for print filters (Klaus-Peter)
Moved bio and images to new bio subdir (Doug Hunley)
Proper French for all front page frames (patrick kapturkiewicz)
VIDEO - AVI + DIVX - Mplayer (Net Llama!)
VIDEO - AVI + DIVX - Avifile (moved (Net Llama!)
-

2nd
Upgrade - Compiling and Installing GLib and GTK+ (Kurt Wall)
Bind 9 - updates to handle the /var/run permissions issue (Doug Hunley)
KDE - Getting Rid of KDE1 (Bill's way) Bill Day
FTP-Server (ammended) Linuxism
PALMPILOT-(susan/alan) Bedtime Reading-Print Filters (Joel Hammer)
Bedtime Reading-Hardware driver API's and technical breifs (Mike Andrew)
---CDROM Kernel API
---CDROM Example C Code driver
---IEEE1284 Parallel Interface
LS120 Parallel Interface protocol
ZIP Parrallel Interface protocols
usb-general- change of url to linux-usb.org
-

1st
Bedtime Reading - BASH Startup Process Scripts (Chris Kassopulo)

We also had a lot of happening on the mailing lists.
We added a bsd-users mailing list this month to coincide withour new BSD 
content.
the linux-users list is up to 152 members, and generated 1937 messages for 
the month of January!

As usual, the website continued to grow in popularity and traffic:
Total Hits for the month: 249126
Average Hits per Day: 1255
Average Hits per Hour: 334
Average Hits per Day: 8036

Top 5 Referrers for the month are:
Google
Yahoo!
www.idir.net
www.redmondlinux.org
Linmodems.org

(LWN, DistroWatch, Caldera, Redat, and KDE.com also showed strongly in the 
Referrer catagory)

Top 5 Search  Items:
s3 trio
sis 5597
ppoe
s3 virge
s3 trio 3d/2x drivers

Top 5 Visiting TLDs:
.COM
.NET
.CA
.EDU
.AU

Full details of the web traffic is available at 
http://linux.nf/www/usage_200201.html

January also showed a marked increase in traffic on our news server 
(news.linux.nf)
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Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself

2002-01-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my
 XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5.

 Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking
 about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5.  Instead of choking like
 its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm.  I'm
 incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself.

You didn't catch this entry in the changelog:

No more animal sacrifices needed. XFree86 will now automagically work for all 
system named after or operated by individual known as animals. Certain 
municipalities were beginning to enact measures to curtail the thinning of 
redient wildlife, so this feature was moved from the 
super-experimental-has-no-real-business-being-used branch to the HEAD branch. 
Expect continued development and refinement in CVS.

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Proof that MS has WON! ( was Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself)

2002-01-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my
 XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5.

 Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking
 about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5.  Instead of choking like
 its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm.  I'm
 incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself.

So, just le me get this straight...

A problem unexpected cropped up on your computer, and the solution was to 
reboot!

I thought that only worked for MS products! Next you'll tell me that you 
needed to re-install the software to fix something else!

We're doomed! ;)
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Re: xfree-4.2+ now does a weirdness

2002-01-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley

dep babbled on about:
 no logfiles provide anything out of the ordinary, at least in this
 connection. (i am puzzled by this, though:
 Jan 29 00:14:00 depoffice /USR/SBIN/CRON[2847]: (root) CMD ( rm -f
 /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily)
 Jan 29 00:15:13 depoffice su: (to nobody) root on none
 Jan 29 00:15:13 depoffice PAM-unix2[3083]: session started for user
 nobody, service su
 Jan 29 00:20:15 depoffice PAM-unix2[3083]: session finished for user
 nobody, service su
 i was not doing anything at all at that time.)

running SuSE yes? this is normal for the daily cron stuff. weird, but normal.

 ideas?

t sure sounds like cron. perhaps the /tmp cleaning is a little too agressive 
and is deleting a pipe/socket?
maybe xscreensaver needs relinked against xfree86's new libs?
4.2.0 turns dpms on for a lot of cards that 4.1.0 did not. perhaps that is it?
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init and defunct process cleanup

2002-01-28 Thread Douglas J Hunley

I have a process or two that are listed as defunct and are owned by init.
It was my understanding that these types of processes would get init as their 
parent, and periodically init would scan its children and remove the defunct 
ones. These processes seem to be hanging around. They don't respond to kill 
signals at all (I sent kill -$i where i was 1-15) and they are still there. 
Can I signal init to tell it to cleanup its children?
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Re: OTopinions on hostway.com services?

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

David Aikema babbled on about:
 On January 24, 2002 05:05 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  anyone?

 I'd suggest asking at http://www.webhostingtalk.com

great! thanks much
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Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Myles Green babbled on about:
 On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500

 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about
  ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of
  xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names...
  watch out everyone

 I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any of
 the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list lately.
 One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from
 microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see some
 errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to certain
 font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but it/they don't
 seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what?

I didn't get burned by any of the font issues either (I have my own custom 
/etc/X11/XftConfig file)
It just seemed to be a big thread on the kde lists, so I thought I'd forwarn 
people.
I got bit by the ATI synch thing. But that was an easy fix.
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hey Bandel! (was Re: BIND 9.x: Part II)

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
 The secret for the example and then having secret in the named.conf,
 rndc.conf and rndc.key I replaced all the 'secrets with the pass and then
 also replaced all the quoted spots next to it with my output from encode,
 as soon as I returned it to secret and left the output from the pass and
 mmencode it fired up.

OIC. You changed the
secret c2VjcmV0;

in /etc/named.conf and actually changed the word secret. you should only 
change the value inside the quotes. I'll change the page to make it more 
clear and use a different example.

 Jan 23 15:24:56 linuxbox named[20466]: Jan 23 15:24:56.504general: error:
 dns_master_load: pz/127.0.0:3: no current owner name
 It still has the 'no owner' problem and 'no current owner'.

I have no idea on this one. Perhaps David knows?


 Should I be starting named as named or root?  This is the command I'm using
 to start it:

 /usr/sbin/named -u named #assuming this is starting it as named
 already.. anyother ideas?

this is correct. it starts up as root, then switches to named. it is the 
correct way
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Jerry McBride babbled on about:

 I've had the experience where a root system running ext3 was so clobbered
 that it had to be accessed via a boot floppy. The only rescue floppy I had
 on hand did not have an fsck thas was able to recover the ext3 system...

 Bingo... a big problem, yes? After upgrading the utils on the floppy, I was
 able to fsck.ext3 the partition in question and all data was recoverable.

 That was my point, sorry I wasn't clear enough in the begining.

ah! ok. I see what you mean. I *thought* you menat the rescue floppy kernel 
didn't know ext3... I follow you now
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code red retals

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

I cant sem to find the old copy of the code red retaliation I had. However, a 
quick search on google.com for code red counter and/or nimda counter turns up 
plenty of links to code to turn an attacking machine into the one being 
attacked
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Re: code red retaliations

2002-01-25 Thread Douglas J Hunley

GREWELL, AARON babbled on about:
 I actually wrote a script to do something like this, though I'm not sure
 what I did with it.  I gave up on it because I felt that it was a legal
 risk.  It wasn't destructive, just issued the beloved net stop command so
 the remote machine would quit attacking me.  Still, a lawsuit would suck.

the script I used would turn the damn computer off...
I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately suck..
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OTopinions on hostway.com services?

2002-01-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

anyone?
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Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

dep babbled on about:
 yup. because you can't just up and delete the .journal file without  
 chattr -i /.journal first, which i believe takes care of this.

whoa! so you're saying that chattr will also clear the correct flag in the 
superblock?!?
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Re: ext3 on root partition question

2002-01-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Jerry McBride babbled on about:

 That's correct.  But my original post was to the effect of making people
 aware of a real bad gotcha is your RESCUE floppy wasn' ext3 aware. It can
 be very embarassing. :') ___

I still dont follow you Jerry. Embarassing how? It will work. I do it all the 
time. I have an ext2 boot flopy and regularly use it to boot an ext3 system. 
where's the issue?
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quick gotcha w/ xfree86 4.2.0 and ati cards

2002-01-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

If you find that after upgrading to 4.2.0 your screen looks like it is 
shifted to the right and/or is too tall, you should try adding:
Option nocompositesync 
to the Device section of your XF86Config. Seems 4.2.0 changed the default 
value from False to True. It was changed back to False in CVS yesterday.
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another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-24 Thread Douglas J Hunley

noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about ugly/messed up 
fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of xfree86 contains new fonts 
and some old fonts have new names...
watch out everyone
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Re: opinions on this iptables script

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Myles Green babbled on about:
 Is that in your script Doug? If so, I'm gonna give it a whirl 'cause
 I've got 6 or 7 IIS ...errm.. Users... contributing to excessivly large
 http_access logs =(

nope. the code for that is in hte archives of this list over at 
mail-archive.com

if it's just logging you're concerned with, you can do:
##
## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
##

# Don't log worm attacks
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/scripts/root\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^MSADC/root\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/[cd]/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/scripts/*/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/_vti_bin/*/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/_mem_bin/*/winnt/system32/cmd\.exe worm
SetEnvIf Request_URI ^/default\.ida worm

CustomLog /dev/null env=worm
# End worm stuff

# Logfiles
ErrorLog /opt/apache/logs/error_log
CustomLog /opt/apache/logs/referer_log referer
CustomLog /opt/apache/logs/agent_log agent
CustomLog /opt/apache/logs/access_log combined


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OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on 
these lists getting together?
If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together 
during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?
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Re: 2nd hdd on 2nd ide channel?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Michael Hipp babbled on about:
 In this config I've heard that hdd would not be able to run with dma and
 and ultra ide modes because of the pokey CD-ROM. Is this true?

I believe that is correct

 How much penalty in performance would I pay by moving hdd to hdb (on ide 0
 with the main drive)? (swap, root, and home all competing for 1 channel)


if the above is indeed true, the penalty would be almost nil compared to the 
alternative configuration

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Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tyler Regas babbled on about:
 Okay,

 Drop a line to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the
 following information:

 Name
 Current Location

 I'll render a map or something with the data. Hell, we might all end up in
 Fiji G

the map will be cool regardless, but I really think the first meeting should 
be somewhere close to the mothership. It'd be a lot easier for me to make 
happen..
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Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bruce Marshall babbled on about:
 On Tuesday 22 January 2002 11:00 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together
  during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

 2003??   By then we'll all be running  Windows  XP :o)

I really didn't think we could get something together for summer 2002 but 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong
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Re: [Mirrors]Re: [Editors]OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 Sounds like a good idea, however the logistics involved would be HUGE,
 when you have a very geographically diverse group of people.

 My first vote would be Golden Gate Park  :)

I was thinking the first one should be somewhere close to the mothership. 
It'd make it easier for me to coordinate and actually get it done
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Re: BIND 9.x: Part II

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
 hmm  Well, metamail does not  seem to like my eD2.4  I see the mmencode.c
 in the metamail tree... is there a way I can pull just it out of the system
 and build it in or is this even possible..

 looked at dnssec-keygen does look quite irritating to try using it... would
 really rather prefer to use the mmencode especailly if I can get it out of
 the package

 Any ideas on doing that or suggestions on other keygens I can use?

you could try just 'cc mmencode.c' and see what happens
I could send you mine ;)
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Re: More Steps

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Ken Moffat babbled on about:
 On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:25:26 -0500

 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  FREEBSD  Intro to FREEBSD (Added new section and 1 document)
  --
  Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/]

 Excellent intro!

I copied this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make them aware. let's not forget them 
in the future!
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Re: Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Glenn Williams babbled on about:
 Hi, Andrew:

 I got your message about cybermesa.com bouncing the mail.  Thanks for
 sending that info.  I've forwarded it to cybermesa and they are working
 with it.

 In the meantime, I went to the mailing list archives to see what mail
 I've missed, and when I finished one message in a thread, and attempted
 to move to the next one in the sequence, the site went down (apparently)
 because no matter which message I tried to read, I got a this page
 cannot be displayed error, even after reconnecting and re-navigating.

 I'm sending a CC: of this message to the list, so you will receive two
 copies of this.

if this was this morning, it's my fault.
A new grsecurity patch came out, so I installed it. then had to sit through 
the old 'drive has been mounted 20 times' fsck ;(
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THREAD IS DEAD (was Re: an interesting experience)

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tim Wunder babbled on about:
 IIRC, it's marketed as the most stable WINDOWS O/S ever. That is not
 necessarily wrong. However, I do agree that the the UI is hideous...

sorry guys, but let's kill this thread or move it [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it was ok as long it was win merits versus linux merits, but now it's 
straying too much off the list charter

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Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
 Did not even know there was one, and would not use it anyway. Hate news
 groups too many script kiddies in them plus spam.

hey! don't be lumping *MY* newsgroups in with the rest of them.
there is *no* traffic on my newsgroups that is not already on my email 
lists...

go check them out skip before you start labelling them g
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ping

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley


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Re: Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 linux.nf isn't using a journaling filesystem?

yes. it uses ext3.

now pay attention every one:
the authors of ext3 state that you should STILL periodically run the fsck t 
verify that the drive itself isn't wigging out. Just cause the fs is 
journalled does NOT mean that the drive is not losing data.
So, the normal fsck the drive every 20 mounts is still a Good Idea(tm) and 
the Right Thing (c) to do

unfortunately, all my partitions had the same mount count, so I had to fsck 
every single one of them. I've since used tune2fs to change the counts so 
they are staggered
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Re: BIND 9.x: Part II

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Douglas J Hunley babbled on about:
 you can use dnssec-keygen instead. see the man page. but it's not as easy
 as mmencode. mmencode comes from metamail .. (check freshmeat)

i added a note about needing metamail to the web page. sorry for not catching 
this one earlier Bill
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Re: new Linux kernel

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
 Errm, what prison was he in and what for??

he wasn't... my script was subltey broke when they switched the finger 
service on kernel.org
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Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Michael Hipp babbled on about:
 I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every day
 to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it works. The
 COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros and 3 different
 machines and more XF86Config files than I care to remember and it would not
 function under X even at 640x480/60Hz. All the helpful ideas from the COL
 list were to no avail. I put it in a Win2k box and it is configured 1st
 time correctly (and no reboot required). I put it in a Win98 box and it at
 least comes up and works at VGA resolution. {Many other examples could be
 cited - this is just the one I'm infuriated about at this moment.}

that's strange. just list the ChipID statement in your XF86Config file.
I had this working before I switched machines. 4.2.0 (which just came out) 
supports this out of the box as well. This particular issue is no different 
on windows vs. linux. it's a driver issue. the chipset on recent xpert cards 
are different than the previous. windows will say i dont know what the video 
card is, use vga where linux says i dont' know what the video card is. tell 
me. no real difference
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Re: OpenGL and XFree86

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

stayler babbled on about:
 Maybe what I need is the MesaLibs?  Are the GL Libs or Mesa Libs a
 separate package?

Mesa has a set of GL libs... however, you might be needing GLUT. Which is 
something else. Check out www.mesa.org for details of what mesa is and isn't
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Re: OpenSSL .0.9.6c...

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
 On OpenSSL's site they have one for OpenSSL and one for OpenSSL-engine..
 what is this engine for.. do I need it for BIND in any way shape or
 form...?

ignore the -engine one. don't need it
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Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Mel Roman babbled on about:
 the advertised news.linux.nf newsgroup, but I can't

news.linux.nf is the SERVER.
sxs.lists.linux-users is the group on that server ;)
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Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Ken Moffat babbled on about:

 I just found this server and newsgroup. Is it an echo of the mailing list?

yes. the mail list and news server are gated to each other. mails show up on 
the news, news shows up on the mail
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Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tim Wunder babbled on about:
 dunno, resolved just fine for me. Check your spelling. Try ping'g
 news.linux.nf

you could try 203.210.228.123 if it won't resolve.
but, it should resolve for you..
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Re: XFree86-4.2.0 released!

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes_4_2.html
 ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/

 Its out.  Anyone yet attempted to build/install the massive download yet
 (either binary or source)?

I'll be installing from source and taking notes on Tues
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Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tom Wilson babbled on about:
 Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy.  If I don't get
 there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see
 the Brickyard 400 in August.

 Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays.  :-)

not to spill the beans, but this ain't true anymore I'll leave it to Kurt 
to say more, but his Hoosier days are short-lived
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Re: OT Re: Hello here as well!

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 Linux, linux, linux, and llamas.

and BSD. and legal stuff that affects Linux.
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Re: DNS/DHCP Statistics

2002-01-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Matthew Carpenter babbled on about:
 Since I am the Linux evangelist in this case, I could use any support you
 can offer...

we use ISC Bind and ISC DHCP at hunley.homeip.net, linux.nf, 
dilyard.homeip.net, deedsd.homeip.net, and soon flexconsulting.net.

the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services uses ISC Bind (well, I'm 
rolling it out) and Network Registrar (Cisco) for DHCP (though I'm fighting 
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Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips!

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register:  Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on 
protected audio CDs
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:13:05 -0800
From: Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FSL Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2002.01.18: Register:  Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected
 audio CDs

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23736.html

By John Lettice
Posted: 18/01/2002 at 13:19 GMT

Netherlands giant Philips Electronics has lobbed a grenade into the
audio copy protection arena by insisting that that CDs including
anti-copying technology should bear what is effectively a plague
warning. They should in Philips' view clearly inform users that they
are copy-protected, and they shouldn't use the Compact Disc logo
because they are not, in Philips' considered view, proper compact
discs at all.

[...]

Meanwhile, the second barrel of the Philips shotgun is CD burning.
In a Reuters interview Gerry Wirtz, general manager of Philips'
copyright office, said that the company would be building CD burners
that can read and burn copy protected CDs. He argues that the
protection system is not a protection system as such, but simply a
mechanism for stopping the playback of music. This interesting claim
allows him to contend that the protection systems are not covered by
the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, and lays the ground for the
mother of all sue-fests with the number of large and rich companies
who are most certainly not going to agree with him. Tin hats all
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Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Jay Nugent babbled on about:
 On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Sys Admin wrote:
  tsting

It's not working...  Some vowels are being dropped :-(

good one ;)
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Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

dep babbled on about:
 needs to set up fstab such that / is ext3, but additional partitions
 may be set to auto. (in suse, for reasons not yet translated from

the reason this works is because the 'mount' on SuSE is too old to be able to 
autodetect ext3. so settng it to auto means that 'mount' INCORRECTLY 
determines it to be ext2.
so, yes it works. but it ain't supposed to. and it *will* stop working once a 
new e2fsprogs is released for suse
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Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Ken Moffat babbled on about:
 I have several ext2 partitions, and several questions.
 Can I make these ext2's into ext3's using tune2fs?

using tune2fs is the only way to convert existing partitions.
simply unmount the partition, 'tune2fs -j /dev/xxx'
and then edit /etc/fstab to say ext3 instead of ext2. remount the partition, 
good to go

 Can I go back and forth?

yes, but why? a kernel that doesn't know about ext3 should mount it as ext2. 
the next time it gets mounted as ext3, the journal will get caught up

 Can I change them using fstab settings?

no. it so happens you can make it look like this by using type 'auto' but in 
fact it is NOT changing the fs type. just mounting it incorrectly

 Must I run fsck?

nope. unless going from ext3 back to ext2. then it is *really* reccommended. 
and in fact, fsck should run automagically in this case

 Is any of this dangerous?

nope.

 Is there a step for this?

this is pretty close. I could write one, but there really isn't much more to 
it.
why not keep notes while you play and then submit them?

 Thanks...

no sweat. if you go this route, contact me directly with issues. I've done 
the ext3 thing many times for a while now.
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OTreally stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news 
server?
I know HREF=news:news.somewhere.net; will pull up the configured newsreader 
and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to 
automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net?
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Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
 Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit:
  tsting

 wrkng

thanks! see you in the morn
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Re: RE: Microsoft Support OT

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about:
 How about:

 Mentally Crippled Self Evangelists  - sort of what windows zealots are!

My Capabilities Seriously Exaggerated
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updated steps

2002-01-17 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bedtime Reading - Partitions (proper German by Hermann-Josef)
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Re: Partitioner

2002-01-17 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
 I cannot see any way to reverse the trend from ext3 to 2. The other way is
 simple (tune2fs -j). Nothing I can see undoes this, not that I wanto
 normally

change fstab from ext3 to ext2, unmount the partition, tune2fs -O 
^has_journal on the partition, remount the partition, fsck will remove the 
journal, you are now back to ext2
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Re: Partitioner

2002-01-17 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Keith Antoine babbled on about:
 I looked at man tune2fs and it does not say anything there. So if so what
 is the command.

sure it does. the -O option talks about the has_journal flag. it also says 
the putting a '^' will turn off the option.
so, tune2fs -O ^has_journal will turn ext3 into ext2 (do this on an UNMOUNTED 
partition. fsck will run when you remount the partition)
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Re: Partitioner

2002-01-17 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
 Oops. debugfs is the proper command. Run debugfs on the FS in
 question, do feature -feature_to_remove, then write and exit.

over complicating kurt. tune2fs will do it. see my other post(s)
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Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-17 Thread Douglas J Hunley

David A. Bandel babbled on about:
 run locate glib.h.  If it's on your system, then the build software can't
 find it.  You may need to modify your make file, find the line with the
 other -I/path/to/includes and put another -I/path/to/glib.h in.  If glib.h
 is not on your system, you need the glib-devel-* and gtk-devel-* RPMs (at
 least, possibly even the gnome-devel-* RPMs).

you might also check that glib-config has the correct path info. sometimes 
you can have more than one copy of this file lying around and whichever is 
found first in the path wins..
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Re: anyone know of

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Ronnie Gauthier babbled on about:
 Discus
 I got it at
 http://www.discusware.com/discus/

ah, yes!. thanks!
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Re: Bind 9.x SxS...

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
 Hey Dougie...   8^)

 You sure about step 7- second bullet... cd doc/man/bin ?

 Im still in the bind directory/tree where I extracted it and have checked
 all of the folders for it.. I can't find any...

 checked docutils, bin, lib, contrib etc... I can finda  man directory
 anywhere under the tar created tree.

 Got my tarball from ISC.org , bind-9.2.0.tar.gz

 Idears?

not needed as of 9.2.0
the html will be fixed ASAP
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Re: Irc Idea

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
 Check my sig...  ones already up and all you gotta do is hop on it...

anyone know of an irc-mail gate program?
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Re: opinions on this iptables script

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Lavinius Romio Petru babbled on about:
 So far so good, but you can be using --sport too to only allow
 connections from priveleged ports, and I olso played with something like

example? where in this code would it go? advantages? disadvantages?

 this
 /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --tcp-flags ACK ACK --dport 80 \
 -m string --string 'cmd.exe' -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
 and add it permanent for a few days as well as for root.exe, but it
 looks good so far!!!

actually, I prefer to let the hits in, as I have things in place to trap them 
and .. uh.. deal with the offending machine g

(check the archives from mail-archive.com to see the details..

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Re: which distro uses portage?

2002-01-16 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Collins Richey babbled on about:
 On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:19:41 -0500

 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I forget. thanks!

 gentoo.  It's a rewrite from scratch (python based) of the FreeBSD ports
 system.  It's still a work-in-progress, but I enjoyed using it.

it should be fairly easy to pull it out of gentoo and use it elsewhere right?
/me is having ideas with LFS and portage ;)
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Re: [SLE] Linux Tutorials On-line or downloadable

2002-01-10 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Joshua Lee babbled on about:
 On Monday 07 January 2002 06:02 am, Shane Broomhall wrote:
  I am planning on moving from Windows 2000 to linux with in the next
  month. I have basic linux skills, but I am by no means a competent user. 
  I am hoping that people on this list will be able to point me towards
  on-line or downloadable tutorials or books that will help me increase my
  knowledge.  I


probably already mentioned, but Rute is awesome. http://rute.sourceforge.net
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Re: any steps or pointers to setting up CVS?

2002-01-10 Thread Douglas J Hunley

John Hiemenz babbled on about:
 This will get down fairly soon, as neccessity is pushing me.. I am reading
 info found at http://www.unixtools.org/cvs/server-how-to.html at the
 moment. 

deal. send your crib sheets (no matter how good) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
my attention in the subject and I'll get it written up.

btw, I saw something on freshmeat that is supposed to help run pserver in a 
secure fashion. can't recall the name though..
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sorta-OTmy source dir and install notes

2002-01-10 Thread Douglas J Hunley

I've decided to make my local source repository and installation notes 
available both from the web (http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/) and 
through rsync (rsync -r hunley.homeip.net::source) for those who are 
interested.

So what? you say.. I try to keep my Linux boxen fairly up to date, and I 
always try to install things according to the LSB (or according to the 
distro, whichever makes more sense to me). And because I have better things 
to use my brain cells on, I keep notes. Granted, they may just be little 
notes, but still. People have told me in the past that they found my stuff 
useful.

Use it if you want, ignore it if you want
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Re: Windows (OT)

2002-01-10 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Lee babbled on about:
 No need to get touchy. An occasional Microgreed question isn't going to
 destroy the list. And, there is an awful lot talent available here. As
 for the original question I would advise getting a copy of Partition and
 Bootmagic 5 or above. Set up two NT partitions and load the Microscruff
 OSs in them and use bootmagic to select which one will boot. It also
 comes in handy if  you want to install a legitimate OS (Linux) on the
 same box with Gates' crash cookies.

I wasn't getting touchy. I was simply informing the original post that there 
is a seperate list for non-linux questions. We've lost members in the past 
because the brief amount of time they were on the list their was more 
non-linux talk than there was linux talk.
i enjoy (and even start) the occasional OT thread. I was just illustrating 
to the poster and other new members that we *do* have a forum where this 
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too many fscking kernel patches!

2002-01-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Is anyone besides me trying to keep up with the flurry of kernel patches on 
lkml concerning scheduling, memory-mapping, pre-epmtion, etc.?
If so, does anyone have a good idea of what works, what works together, and 
what don't?

I'm currently running 2.4.17 with the preempt patch from rml and grsecurity 
(let me take a minute to advocate grsecurity. this patchset rocks! 
www.grsecurity.net for the details. I don't use the ACL stuff, or the heap 
stuff, but the extra logging, the extra control over the netwking, the added 
net devices in the entropy pool, and the other protections are SWEET!). So 
far, this combination rocks! My system is running at a very good clip, and is 
pretty damn secure.

However, I'm looking at the reverse-map patch (Ingos?) and I can't tell if it 
will work with the pre-empt or not (and would it be beneficial?). I know the 
new O(1) scheduler is incompatible (and I wouldn't try it anyway. that one is 
*way* too invasive for me). Anyone making sense of all this stuff?
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Re: too many fscking kernel patches!

2002-01-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Net Llama babbled on about:
 Perhaps i'm naive, but i always thought that if a patch applies cleanly,
 then it works.  At least that has been my limited experience.

nope. you can have two different memory-tweaking patches that apply cleanly 
to your tre, but effectively cancel each other out. that's what I meant by 
working. Which patches can be bundled together without losing any of the 
benefits of the individual patches..
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Fwd: IMAP4

2002-01-08 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Forwarded for Rick... (it's users@ not steps@)

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: IMAP4
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:27:07 -0600
From: Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux StepByStep [EMAIL PROTECTED]

List

  Quick question here. I am using pop3 for my normal mail devilery.
I have a new email address from the University of North Texas. They
are using IMAP. Sylpheed has a setting for IMAP4.

1 is IMAP4 same as imap

2.  Do I need to do anyspecial setup imap4 to run on my
Caldera ew 3.1 system.

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Fwd: [linux-elitists] ANNOUNCEMENT::Free Software Institute Begins - Linux 1 Class [ruben@mrbrklyn.com] [ruben@mrbrklyn.com]

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley
 - For the love of Brooklyn
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
 articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/hooked.mp3 -
 Spring is coming
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn

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Fwd: Linux Security for Enterprise

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley



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Subject: Linux Security for Enterprise
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:47:36 +0530
From: Deepak Kumar Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello
Recently IBM has given following two excellent white papers on Linux
Security for Enterprise. I liked  white papers very much and found very
useful. The paper pointed out very relevant issues. The papers are available
at following link: -

The whiter paper by IBM on Linux Security for Enterprise as available at:
-
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/whitepapers/secu
rity/les_summary.pdf

The below mentioned document also seems to be a good reading, although I
have not read it properly as I am not able to open it (its.pdf version gives
IO error).

The whiter paper by IBM on Security Requirement for Deployment of Linux
Kernel in Enterprise Systems as available at: -
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/whitepapers/security/
les_whitepaper.pdf

Regards
Deepak.


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Re: what are these ports?

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Dave Anselmi babbled on about:
 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  looking at a couple of examples for iptables and several have UDP port
  6112, port 6119, and port 4000 open. why? anyone? looking in my
  /etc/services, I don't see how any of these ports would be needed. Am I
  missing something?

 netstat --ip -lnp should show the process doing the listening (the -p is
 the important part for that).

true that. but I don't have anything on these ports. i wanted to know why the 
scripts leave them open..

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question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, 
but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
in the know.

Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
Security Assesment service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we 
DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

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Re: question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Kurt Wall babbled on about:
 I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such
 as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing
 programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits.

are Saint/Satan still worth it? Doesn't Nessus cover them?
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Re: Way ot - FreeBSD

2002-01-07 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Collins Richey babbled on about:
 The most interesting observation thus far is that KDE is much peppier than
 on any Linux distro I've used.  KDE/Konqueror.etc. start in about one third
 the time of the equivalent on linux.  It will be interesting to see if
 there is an OpenOffice distro for BSD, since that one is really pokey.

anyone know if this is cause the libc on *BSD properly preloads stuff and 
doesn't do all the re-locating that glibc does?
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Re: Sigfiles

2002-01-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Declan Moriarty babbled on about:
 printk(CPU[|d]: Sending penguins to jail...,smp_processor_id());
  [... 20 lines ...]
 printk(CPU[|d]: Giving pardon to imprisoned penguins\n,
 smp_processor_id()); 2.4.8 arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c
 panic(IRQ, you lose...);
  2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel/indy_int.c

 Doug:
  Are these quotes from REAL source code in use somewhere?

  What gives anyone the interest to dig them out?

yes. that really comes from 2.2.16 linux kernel. I don't know. There's a 
kernel fortunes package on freshmeat. that's where I got them
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Fwd: ANN: PerlJacket beta, and apology before the fact

2002-01-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

FYI... looks interesting

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Subject: ANN: PerlJacket beta, and apology before the fact
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:47:38 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred Morris)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(and this time I'll actually send it to the list..)

I originally thought I'd investigate this as the full perl jacket
approach, but procmail is still useful for a few things. ;-)

Anyway, what I've spent the last month working on is a perl-based mail
filter which:

  * filters headers, and inserts additional header lines based on
expression matches

  * allows for mail-based updates of the filter set

  * rewrites multipart/alternative and multipart/parallel as
multipart/mixed

  * drops text/html parts of multipart/alternative messages when a
text/plain part has already been seen

  * makes the text/html part of messages which don't have a text/plain
part into attachments

  * makes sure all attachments have file disposition

  * drops tnef, vcard, winmail.dat

  * runs in one pass

  * avoids reading the entire message into memory at once... most
of the time, anyway

This is beta at this point, although I'm going to make it live on my
account here RSN. Hence the apology before the fact... I've spent the
last week testing and tweaking, but you never know until it's too late. :-\

You can find the relevant pieces here, if you care to look:

  http://www.inwa.net/~m3047/perljacket/


God help us all!

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Re: new Steps! (1/4)

2002-01-06 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Campbell babbled on about:
 I'll get something later today or tomorrow.

no hurry. hell, you don't have to if you don't want to. just tell me you 
don't so I can remove the link.
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Re: new Steps! (1/4)

2002-01-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bruce Marshall babbled on about:
 On Friday 04 January 2002 16:56 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  New bio pages of the Editors (most of em anyway) are now up on the
  site. Front Page-Snapshots. (Doug Hunley)

 Getting page not found on  Bill Campbell.

guess I should have elaborated on the most of em part. a couple of editors 
haven't got their info in to me yet. but it's coming.
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Re: Switching to DHCPDC on Comcast

2002-01-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Joel Hammer babbled on about:
 Well, fooling around with dhcpcd:

 The man page says dhcpcd will try to configure your interface; however,
 when I run dhcpcd against my intranet dhcp server with dhcpcd -d eth0, the
 interface isn't changed at all. The lease files are set up on the client
 computer, but no attempt is made to configure the card. Is this correct?

my experience (joining this thread late) is that you should configure eth0 
first with bogus values (mine gets 192.168.1.1) then run dhcp and it will do 
the Right Thing
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Re: re snapshots

2002-01-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Mike Andrew babbled on about:
 On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:55, Linux StepByStep wrote:
 [snip]

 nicely presented Mr Doug.

a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;)

seriously, thanks. the old one just looked so...well... old.
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Re: Updated Steps (1/4)

2002-01-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Chang babbled on about:
 thank you.
 reading it again...

please let me know what's still not clear. I want it to be a very good 
starting point for people.
also, I'm working on instructions for making a chroot bind 9. expect it soon
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what are these ports?

2002-01-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

looking at a couple of examples for iptables and several have UDP port 6112, 
port 6119, and port 4000 open. why? anyone? looking in my /etc/services, I 
don't see how any of these ports would be needed. Am I missing something?
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Re: what are these ports?

2002-01-05 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Bill Day babbled on about:
 dtspcd  6112/tcp   dtspcd
 dtspcd  6112/udp   dtspcd

 #   6113-6122  Unassigned

 terabase4000/tcp   Terabase
 terabase4000/udp   Terabase

 Close as I can come..  I do know ICQ uses 4000, so do a few games that have
 a lobby chat before you play them.

yeah. the ports were in my /etc/services. they just didn't seem like anything 
I'd need. thanks though
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allowing sinlge-login only?

2002-01-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

anyone know of any hacks/methods/etc to limit a particular userid to only one 
login at a time?

i.e. admin #1 logs in as root to do something, meanwhile admin #2 sshes into 
machine as root to do something, but is not allowed to log in.

just trying to keep people from tripping over each other ;)

and skip the 'give em seperate accounts' and the 'use su' ..
I'm looking for other solutions thanks
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new Steps! (1/4)

2002-01-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

New bio pages of the Editors (most of em anyway) are now up on the site.
Front Page-Snapshots. (Doug Hunley)
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Re: allowing sinlge-login only?

2002-01-04 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Federico Voges babbled on about:
 Hi,

 pam_limits???

sweet! so pam has a use after all ;)
thanks
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Re: start bind-9.2.0 using uid named

2002-01-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about:
   Simply add named group to the daemon group.

 I think this should read: Simply add the named user to the daemon
 group.

   then make /var/run root:daemon and 775.

yeah, yeah. what Kurt said
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Re: start bind-9.2.0 using uid named

2002-01-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Chang babbled on about:
 Speaking of bind 9, maybe we should combine all the articles in that
 section into one, that talks about setting up a secured, caching DNS
 with support for local domains. It should really useful to newbies.

 Your artcile would be a starting point, adding the rest into a bigger
 procdure. let's forget about bind 8.. :)

on my todo list actually. that and writing up what it takes to make bind 9 
chrooted (which is not much)
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Re: exchange 5.5

2002-01-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tim Wunder babbled on about:
 You mean Groupware? Funny, I'm starting to look into this myself. Not as
 a replacement for Exchange, but as a new installation.
 I've found some that look interesting, but haven't tried any yet:

does IMP fall in there anywhere? it's part of Horde (www.horde.org I think)
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opinions on iptables scripts?

2002-01-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Looking at Freshmeat, I see like 50 different firewall scripts (iptables 
based). What are you guys using?
rc.firewall?
shorewall?
mon mothma?
others?

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Re: opinions on iptables scripts?

2002-01-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Joel Hammer babbled on about:
 I would STRONGLY urge you not to use any script for your security.
 Scripts are basically black boxes. You can't rely on a black box. You have
 to know about security.

I know. But they are usually good starting points.

I already know ipchains inside and out. My ipchains script is even up on the 
SxS. But I wanted something to look at for iptables. Helps me figure it out..

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Re: opinions on iptables scripts?

2002-01-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley

David A. Bandel babbled on about:
 I have firewalls in a number of places (companies, organizations,
 individuals).  Each one custom rules.  Some things (almost) never change,
 and those are the basis for the scripts I provided LJ with my article.  My
 recommendation:  decide exactly what you want to do and implement those
 rules. Don't use a canned script.  If you don't know what you want,
 perhaps you shouldn't try (alone), but get someone knowledgeable to help.

exactly. I know what I want open and to whom. that I can probably implement. 
I just wanted to see what this list thought was decent starting points to 
examine how others are doing the iptables things.


 For those who enjoyed my basic Netfilter article, I'll have another (more
 advanced) article RSN.

what's the URL of the previous article? also, post the new URL when it goes 
online please. thanks!
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Re: CAL_UP.SH and Douglas

2002-01-02 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Herbert H. DeLong babbled on about:
 Do you have CAL_UP.SH yet? Where can it be found?

yep. it's just the script without the install or other docs, but check 
http://hunley.homeip.net/tools/
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