Re: Comcast mail
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:28:23 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that you can even get POP access to your yahoo account, if you agree to receive spam^H^H^H^Hadvertising. I use yahoo as backup, and download it using pop. You do get a little spam, and it's annoying, but not excessive. You can use the webmail interface and not get as much spam, but I prefer pop mail clients. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:54:55 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 04:46:09 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this, I like KMySQL. Is there a good equivalent for the PostgreSQL environment? Found this is a google search for kmysql. KSql, previously known as KMySql is a KDE database client. It was originaly mySQL specific, but uses now plugins to access databases like miniSQL and PostgreSQL. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:54:55 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good equivalent for the PostgreSQL environment? Sorry, forgot the url: http://ksql.sourceforge.net/ -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: More ELX ramblings
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 18:50:58 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the other strong points for ELX (IMHO) is that they include OpenOffice. Have you run AbiWord in elx? If so... Do you get a font error message about being unable to add it's fonts to the X font path? (elx rc2) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Fw: ELX Linux Interview
FYI Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 12:39:54 -0800 From: TApologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: (none) Newsgroups: borland.public.kylix.non-technical Subject: ELX Linux Interview Paul and others have mentioned how much they like ELX Linux. Here's a link to an interview with the founder of ELX: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT6850645834.html Enjoy. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: weird opera behavior
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 06:58:52 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damndest thing. on my wife's machine, opera all of a sudden displays no images at all and instead merely has the boxes containing image. everywhere, so it's not as if advertisements are getting busted. no changes in system -- it just one day began doing this. i haven't really dived into it yet. anybody have ideas where to look when i do? -- dep Check settings under File/Preferences/Multimedia There is a setting for downloading images. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:38:33 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still having issues with the CD-RW and CD-R and Floppy drive and the locks. Once in a while I can get to them but then cannot unmount them as it thinks they are busy. I disabled supermount by changing the /etc/fstab lines, which cured my cd problems. Here are the new lines I use. /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 defaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 defaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0/dev/floppy /mnt/floppy vfatdefaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0 I use append append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi to enable my cd-rw and dvd for scsi emulation. This is mostly untested, but both show in cdrecord -scanbus -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:36:55 -0800 Mike Mckinlay mike@CX43837-A wrote: Folks: I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a coupleof posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW! If this is a beta you can sure I'll be standing in line for the finished product. If your looking for a new distribution of Linux head of to their web site at http://www.elxlinux.com/; and see the good things their doing. Mike Elx is good. A problem I've had is with supermount, which was causing excessive delays while searching for media in cd's and mounting file systems. So I change my /etc/fstab file to a conventional mount point for the cd's and floppy, which fixed that problem. The Samba networking works well with my win95 box. The eth0 setup was a breeze, and the scsi emulation for my cd's works well, just added appends to lilo.conf. I'd like a few more window managers included, (just kde and gnome). And I don't like the windows like addons (network neighborhood, control panel) which are repackaged webmin utilities. But overall I'm impressed. It works and it's quite fast on my Athlon 1.4. They use kernel 2.4.13. Kylix2 runs well. I had a problem with permissions for cd sound, but added my user to the disk group and fixed that. (Also changed permissions to 666 on /dev/dsp, don't know if that was necessary) Anyway it works. It's a bit large at 3+ megs for full install. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
This was mentioned in the article, I think. Oh, yeah, here it is... http://www.open-mag.com/754088105111.htm quote: To round out our single processor CPU tests of the Intel compilers, we turned our final attention on a system running with an AMD Athlon CPU. In all previous tests with both the GNU C and MS Visual C++ compilers, AMD Athlon CPUs have consistently performed about 20% faster than a comparable clocked Intel Pentium III CPU?CPU processing power per MHz. When we ran the Intel-compiled version of OBLcpu on the Athlon-powered system the percent improvement was virtually identical to the results run on the Omnibook endquote. On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:19:26 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Wall wrote: --- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if its' worth the salt. The curious thing is... they want $500.00 for the fully supported product... I don't know that this is their reasoning. Intel worked very closely with various OSS groups to make sure that their I64 had good support in Linux. I think Intel is just looking to make a buck. Likely so. Various folks from Intel also participate in GCC development. Intel has a vested interest in making sure that code will run on the IA64 platform. Any word on how well the compiler works with AMD Athlon/Duron chips? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:39:57 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:42, Ken Moffat wrote: Another one to keep in mind is Borland, with the kylix thing being updated to c++. Shouldn't be too long, and I've used C++Builder on Windows with great pleasure. I don't know C++Builder is it Borland? And are you saying kylix is being ported out of Delphi (Pascal) and into C++? This would mean the C__Far_Pascal calls would be dropped for those addon C++ oops objects, a good thing(tm). C++ Builder is the C++ version of Delphi for windows. Where delphi is pascal and extremely fast to compile, builder is C++ and very much slower to compile, due to the complexity of the language. Where does this all fit in with the original post about a true blue Intel compiler? I guess someone mentioned another brand that cost $500+ so I mentioned borland, which will probably end up as a freebee open edition download (for non commercial open-source work) or maybe $250/$300 for a commercial desktop development system. (I don't know any of this for fact, just reading newsgroups.)-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Intel compiler
Here's a link to a review of a new 'closed source' compiler from intel. Anyone heard of this? Impressive improvements over ms visual c++ and gnu 2.95. They talk of 30% speed improvement. http://www.open-mag.com/754088105111.htm -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys like you .. I disabled it on my elx distro, because I didn't plan to change any hardware, but it was certainly harmless when I had it enabled. Do you have problems on elx with the filesystems taking a long time to be detected? When I run df on both rc1 and rc2, I wait and wait, maybe 5 seconds for each partition or cdrom, for it to be detected. This makes kde a pain on startup, since it seems to parse each desktop disk icon, and is always trying to verify my cdroms when no media is present. Gnome is not so bad, but it's still happening. (I'm in xfce now and no problems. (yet))-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ISO image files
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:54:06 -0700 Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Group: I have looked in all the familiar sources of info, and have come up empty. I have a binary file in .iso image format. What do I need to do to install it? The file is in my download directory, but I want to burn a CD and install it from that. I did this some time back, but my memory has deserted me on this one. Can someone help? TIA The command I use to burn a cd from an iso image is: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data filename.iso Of course you need to be root, and use the proper device, determined by 'cdrecord -scanbus', and set your preferred speed and the appropriate filename. Works for me, ymmv. Any second opinions? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:27:09 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kde is a pig to start on any distro, but a little better on FreeBSD. kudzu took about 30-40 seconds that I considered wasted effort, so I disabled it. I'm an xfce biggot, too. oops, are we talking freebsd? I'm wondering about ELX. Is there a group I should add myself to for enabling cdrom music cd's as user? they work as root only. My /dev/dsp permissions are 666, and the cdrom I want to use for music is scd1, but permission is denied.-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:56:47 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins that problem of waiting for a directory to list (KDE) is the very reason why I dumped Elx RC1 and RC2. I found the whole distro too Microsoftish. I didn't like what they did with Webmin (in my opinion crippled it) I do not mind someone (distro) hacking their name on boot screen nor do I mind them placing their logo's in various utilities, but when they start changing the way the rest of the world packages utilities then I take exception. If they think that they can produce a better Webmin I suggest that they joint the Webmin developers group and show them how its done. I do not like the way elx hacks up the HD on install. The result makes the HD look more like what M$ would do rather than Linux. In my opinion elx looks and feels like something M$ might produce. JMHO -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Well, I must agree to some extent. Where did you go from elx? I mean, it's quite up to date, full featured, and the install was successful, most things work, but this file system searching is making me nuts, and the permissions on sound are giving me fits also. This is not unusual, but they do claim to be a windows substitute and I feel they have a ways to go before they are there. I did a custom install, and just used a 6 gig partition, hda10. Elx overwrote the mbr, causing me to have to use a boot disk, even though I told it not to install to mbr. I booted to redhat and ran lilo, fixing everything. So it's not perfect yet, but it's god for an early release. As for repackaging utilities, as long as they work (?) So I'm open to another choice. I'd been using libranet, but their new release took too long. (And debian is too easy! ;-) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:21:53 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm open to another choice. I'd been using libranet, but their new release took too long. (And debian is too easy! ;-) Oh, and the networking doesn't quite work here, maybe since I use dhcp for my huge 2 computer network, one linux, one windows, fed by a linksys 4 port router. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:29:52 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is, Intel will do very well indeed. Another one to keep in mind is Borland, with the kylix thing being updated to c++. Shouldn't be too long, and I've used C++Builder on Windows with great pleasure. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Mag OT
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:31:21 -0500 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gates might start feeling like a wagonmaster under indian attack who is one wagon short of circling the wagons. Increased market share for linux is happening, but I'm not sure how many paying customers are ponying up to the bar yet. And MS still has a virtual softwre monopoly for the home user. Techies love linux, but my wife hates it! -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Mag OT
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:56:39 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: who is one wagon short of circling the wagons. Techies love linux, but my wife hates it! She'll come around. Mine did. :-) It has taken the better part of 2 1/2 years though. It is just a battle of will power and my will to work in Linux out lasted her will to keep rebooting to get into Windoze. Though she still occasionally does, tis a rare occasion these days. Like when we have to use the scanner. That will be solved when we get a new PC though. Well, I fought the reboot battle for a while, then I went out and bought myself a new computer, so the wife and her equally obstinate daughter could have their windows in peace. Now I have 60 gigs to fill with linux (except for the 6 gigs I left to winme. I have redhat, libranet and elx right now, plus a couple of spare partitions, and a 20 gig fat32 for sharing files.) Everyone seems ok with it. Hopefully they'll come around when they get tired of Win95 on the old P233 ;-) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: wierd response
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 08:15:52 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. Dep, is the credit to you on this poem? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:32:32 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the newsgroup inactive? Do I need to point to a particular news server? Um... news.linux.nf is the server not the newsgroup. HTH, Tim I just found this server and newsgroup. Is it an echo of the mailing list? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: More Steps
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:25:26 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FREEBSD Intro to FREEBSD (Added new section and 1 document) -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] Excellent intro! -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: AOL to buy Red Hat ?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:28:04 +0100 (CET) Zoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-19-002-20-NW-RH Cheers, Zoran. Jeez ... is this good or bad? America on RedHat? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2/ext3
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:03:38 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:29, Douglas J Hunley wrote: using tune2fs is the only way to convert existing partitions. simply unmount the partition, 'tune2fs -j /dev/xxx' and then edit /etc/fstab to say ext3 instead of ext2. remount the partition, good to go This might seem *really dumb* but how can you do this on your root (/) partition, assuming tune2fs is on it? As in, what if you only have the 2 'standard' partitions of / and swap on your system? I was wondering that, but this may answer it... (involves the 'r' word ... (reboot)) (from http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/ext3/ext3-usage.html) Converting ext2 filesystems An ext2 filesystem maybe converted to ext3 by creating a journal file on it. To do this, run tune2fs -j /dev/hdXX on the target filesystem (which may be mounted). The filesystem is now ext3 capable. This means that it can be mounted as type ext3. Now you can unmount/mount (after changing your /etc/fstab appropriately) to do this. To mount the root filesystem ext3, the easiest thing is probably to just reboot. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New(?) Athlon bug (reported on gentoo)
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:36:24 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snips from a notice posted on gentoo by Daniel Robbins ] You Athlon users may want to take notice. ...here quite a few Athlon CPUs have a particular bug ouch. I have an athlon 1.4, and it seems rock solid when using Libranet (Debian) without 'testing' versions added. But I have had my share of lockups along the way. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2/ext3
Ok, that's clear, but what about root partitions. Can they be converted from another distro? Or is that necessary? If I log in to redhat on hda6 and convert a few from there, then log in to libranet or something on say hda9 can I convert the redhat partition? Or am I just making this too difficult? What about older kernels? Will they just mount these ext3 partitions as ext2? And how does this relate to ReiserFS? (i'm off to rtfm. :^) On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:59:12 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Moffat babbled on about: I have several ext2 partitions, and several questions. Can I make these ext2's into ext3's using tune2fs? using tune2fs is the only way to convert existing partitions. simply unmount the partition, 'tune2fs -j /dev/xxx' and then edit /etc/fstab to say ext3 instead of ext2. remount the partition, good to go Can I go back and forth? yes, but why? a kernel that doesn't know about ext3 should mount it as ext2. the next time it gets mounted as ext3, the journal will get caught up Can I change them using fstab settings? no. it so happens you can make it look like this by using type 'auto' but in fact it is NOT changing the fs type. just mounting it incorrectly Must I run fsck? nope. unless going from ext3 back to ext2. then it is *really* reccommended. and in fact, fsck should run automagically in this case Is any of this dangerous? nope. Is there a step for this? this is pretty close. I could write one, but there really isn't much more to it. why not keep notes while you play and then submit them? Thanks... no sweat. if you go this route, contact me directly with issues. I've done the ext3 thing many times for a while now. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf You're not paranoid. The world _IS_ fscked. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Veering OTKylix Licensing
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 03:40:53 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:06, Kurt Wall wrote: Yow! Guess I won't be using Kylix: I was dissapointed with it for different reasons grin. It uses a (hidden)version of wine, and I just don't like that emulator and a 48 meg trial download is huge, in my book. They will be changing the license terms. I'm sure it's under review, since the borland forums are up in arms. As for wine, it's only the ide that uses it, not the finished apps. The problem I have with kylix is distributing apps, since you need about 8 megs of libraries. I've heard it requires the particular version of qt that ships with kylix, so you end up with a .tar.gz of 3+ megs that blows up to 8+ on install. For those who are using kylix, try InstallMade, which makes a .tar.gz of the finished project including autodetecting and packaging the required libraries and links, etc. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
Looks like the northwest. (Egocentric... from a NW U.S. point of view.) Could it be Washington? Oregon? British Columbia? Looks like rain forest. Huge Cedar trees. Nice waterfall. Fog. I felt at home. :-) On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:01:01 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On December 17, 2001 11:29 am, Net Llama wrote: Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ That has to be the first time I've ever seen a Sasquatch in cutoffs! http://sxs.sourceforge.net/pix/1212_007.jpg ;P Sorry Lonni, I'm just getting caught up. `tis ok, so am i :) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
This has correccted the problem. Thanks. (again) On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:12:26 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:30, Ken Moffat wrote: ln -s /dev/srX /dev/scdX PMFJI .. I have /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 for cd-rw and dvd. Should I do step 3 above? Yes. It does no harm. Jan 13 07:23:05 localhost kernel: sr1: CDROM not ready. Make sure there a symlink will fix that. I assume supermount is looking for media. Annoying. Correct. The bottom line here is simply to understand that both srX and scdX refer to the same animal. How you organise YOUR system is one of the best features of Linux. You can. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CUPS...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:27:03 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a printing medium on Linux CUPS is way ahead of anything else. Anyone have an opinion on TurboPrint? I used it on Libranet with success. They have a free version, and it greatly increased the print quality of my HP840C. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:27:28 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After reading that bedtime reading page, it's a wonder anything works... I'm always amazed anything works (when I'm at the controls). -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Steps Jan 12
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:56:48 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:40, Ken Moffat wrote: I wonder what you mean by finishes off the @#$% append = statement? Do you mean 'explains it completely' or that you can't stand it? Actually both. I've done my best to explain how you do not have to use it, and, I hope I've explained how TO use it (clearly the latter worked for you) Yes, thank you, it works well. I have tried several approaches to this, and for some reason it worked after reading your info. I thought I'd tried everything, and frankly I'm not sure what changed, but what the heck, it works.-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
CD Burn Software
Ii have 3 choices on my kde menu under cd burners: cdbakeoven, gnome toaster, and xcdroast Is there a consensus of opinion as to which is best? The only burning I've done outside of windows is 'cdrecord'ing. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD Burn Software
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:07:04 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For KDE2x, I prefer KonCD, which you seem to have not listed. Seems to be beta software. Stable enough, I assume? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:02:53 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recommendation: Remove all symlinks in /dev Remove the kernel line hdc=ide-scsi Re-boot the system and look at your /dev directory. As I understand it, you should then have /dev/sr0: SCSI CD-ROM or CDRW /dev/sr1: SCSI CDRW or CD-ROM /dev/hdc: IDE CD-ROM PMFJI Here is what worked for me. I have 1 cdrw and one dvd, both shown as scsi, and the devices are scd0 and scd1. (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I use the lilo line append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi This works in Redhat7.1, ELX and Libranet. I deleted my cdrom links in /dev (cdrom-hdb and cdrom1-hdc) and replaced them with ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom ln -s /dev/scd1 /dev/cdrom1 Just another alternative to investigate. The stepbystep site was a big help. http://linux.nf -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:37:36 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I've seen somewhere that sr0 and sr1 are outdated. (?)) And I snip I stand corrected. (jeez, and I JUST read the damn bedtime reading page, too!) Tim I didn't mean to correct, just offer an alternative. I've heard that both can work, depending on the distro. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD Burn Software
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:41:29 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: download page, just 1.0rc2. I'd try that if I were you. Unless you have the strange desire to try to download koncd from KDE CVS and compile it from there. No cvs for me, I'll try 1.0rc2. Thanks again. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD Burn Software
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:36:08 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also gcombust which I prefer Probably not in your distro though. The page says beta software, use at your own risk. Works for you, eh? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FreeBSD again ot
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:01:44 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before anyone flames me, be advised that I don't intend to post ot that often. I know there are many of you who don't appreciate non-linux discussions. I vote for it. (not that this is a democracy) I'm curious about FreeBSD. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD Burn Software
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:47:54 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have only used Xcdroast and it is fine. I guess that's the standard. Just wondered if there were other good choices. Thanks. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:23:55 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious about the genuflection bit. What are the consequences of not setting the genuflection bit? (Something about the execution bit occurs to me) (sorry, dumb joke, couldn't resist.) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Steps Jan 12
Excellent. I just added the append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi line and ran lilo, and now all 3 of my linux distros (Libranet, ELX and RedHat7.1) recognize both cdr's as scsi. I guess that will make xcdroast happy. Only the Libranet distro would show both cd's when I ran 'cdrecord -scanbus', now they all do. Thanks, also, for the kde2 soundbug fix. I wonder what you mean by finishes off the @#$% append = statement? Do you mean 'explains it completely' or that you can't stand it? On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:03:03 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KDE2-Soundbug (Mike Andrew) Bedtime Reading- IDE CD Burners (Mike Andrew) CD BURNERS - IDE Bedtime Reading I ***really** hope the above finally, permanently and at last finishes off the *)(*)(^%$*)( append = statement. I've done *everything* I can think of to explain ide-scsi. PLEASE READ and let me know what's still not clear PS thanks. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:11:10 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in Libranet linux I once tried append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi and locked up on reboot with a crc error during a time of heavy experimenting. That's not too surprising. If either hdb or hdc held / then i'd expect a trainwreck upon reboot. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arghh. I bet I left the cd in the drive and it was causing the error. I backed out of that change before fully testing it.-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Just want to see if I understand. If you add the append=hdb=ide-scsi line to your lilo.conf, then does that line cause the scsi module to load? Or do you need to compile scsi support in to the kernel, AND use that line? And if you have hdb and hdc, cd-rw and dvd, do you need to add hdc=ide-scsi to that append? Thanks in advance. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
User sound permissions
Another question. I'm trying out ELX linux, but the sound for users doesn't work, and I can't find the audio group to add my users. (works for root) Is there another group that controls sound permissions, or a device to adjust? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: User sound permissions
I'll try it, thanks. On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:53:15 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:46:20 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question. I'm trying out ELX linux, but the sound for users doesn't work, and I can't find the audio group to add my users. (works for root) Is there another group that controls sound permissions, or a device to adjust? Next time I boot my ELX system, I'll double check. What I do on any system is just give /dev/dsp permissions 666. Who cares about having a secure sound card, anyway! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: User sound permissions
That worked, thanks. On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:53:15 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next time I boot my ELX system, I'll double check. What I do on any system is just give /dev/dsp permissions 666. Who cares about having a secure sound card, anyway! -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX update
Well, after a nights rest, and rebooting, ELX seems to be running much better, not sluggish any more, and I'm starting to like it. It does have a windows like feel, too much for me, but you can still ignore that if you want, and it did a fine job of setting up with my hardware and networking with my old win95 box. (Played with samba for a while to get it set up). Kylix 2 OpenEdition runs well on it. Anyone tried Kylix1 on elx? I had a problem yesterday installing it, it stalled at building the font matrix. But maybe I'll try it again, since elx is running much better now. I do miss the choice of window managers on Libranet, which is my favorite distribution. IceWM, xfce, kde, gnome, enlightenment, windowmaker, blackbox, probably more I'm forgetting... Elx has kde, gnome, twm, period. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX linux
Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish? (maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX
All in all elx seems quite full featured and stable so far. I'm not sure about the Windows knockoffs, but we'll see. Anyone have problems with the Mozilla and Galeon versions crashing on ELX? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /dev/hda failing?
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:39:31 +0800
Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Should I be disturbed by these entries?
I just re-compiled my kernel-2.4.17 yesterday night with gcc-2.95.3 and
rebooted. There is no special noise out of the disk.
Dec 29 22:53:14 server kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Dec 29 22:53:14 server kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 {
DriveStatusError BadCRC }
Are these new since the recompile?
I have an old compaq that started getting these errors, in particular the
first. I turned off dma to stop the timeouts, which were frequent but only
in linux, not win95. It's still functioning a year later. It is slow and
noisy, but works. For how long? Who know. (Not a recommendation, since it
may drop dead any minute.)--
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Re: elx and kylix (not)
I'm using kylix with success on Libranet (Debian). If you did the system (root) install I think there is an additional setup step you should do, but I'm not sure. Be sure to read the INSTALL file throroughly. I just run ./startkylix in my home directory. (I installed to a kylix directory off my home (user) directory) On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:19:35 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: elx does offer a trial version of kylix, but I haven't gotten this to work yet. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Neat java editor...
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:40:26 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 11:58:27 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if the wheel mouse plugin works in linux? I'm not a wheel mouse pro as it was a microsoft invention. However, I've heard whell mouse support is good underlinux... should be ok in Java apps. My wheel mouse doesn't work in jedit. Thought the wheel plugin might help. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Neat java editor...
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:19:03 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe someone here was asking for recommendations for a java IDE on linux. While my favorite tool isn't a gui driven ide, it is still a very usefull ide no less. May I recommend jedit? It's a nice, simple editor that handles a variety of programming languages, including netrexx. It's available as open source and pretty nifty, if I say so myself. Cheers. I just downloaded this. I'm using Libranet (debian), but I grabbed the rpm version, ran alien on it to convert it to deb, and dpkg -i to install, and it runs fine. Nice options. Do you know if the wheel mouse plugin works in linux? The info says version 2 works in linux with java 1.4 support. Not sure what that means. (I have jdk1.3)-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: is mozilla getting *more* buggy?
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 12:54:10 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been an advid Mozilla fan since something like BUILD 15. The lock ups used to be a seldom Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed this trend as of late? I've been using 0.96 for quite some time with success, and on the strength of your posting I won't be in a hurry to update. Thanks. In fact I've become quite a fan of galeon, which as you know uses the mozilla engine, but wraps it in a (in my opinion) nicer package. I use sylpheed for mail/news, so don't mozilla for that, and galeon is quick and very functional. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Plugger 4.0
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:43:25 + Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must have a lot of time on your hands using Netscape. I decided I did not, and put on Opera 5, which doesn't need this farting about with plugins, and loads the same day it's started. I hear everyone going on about galeon - I mean to look at that too, but I haven't had the time. -- You will need Mozilla installed to use Galeon, but it's worth it. Have a look at the Opera 6 tech preview. It does some plugins. Also, the newer builds of Mozilla are good. (and check out sylpheed for mail/news) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:41:35 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:10:14 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While at work (Win2K), Mozilla serves me fine. Have you found Mozilla for windows to be responsive, quick to load? I use it in Linux along with Galeon, and am looking for a replacement for the bloated Netscape 6.2 in Windows. Yes, at least on my 1.0GHz Athlon with 256MB RAM. It had been lagging behind Netscape 4.79, until this past week. Thursday's build loaded quicker And I realy like the Tabs feature (N6.2 doesn't have it). Tim I must have tabs, so Mozilla or Galeon ( or Opera ) are on my list. I've been using Galeon in Linux, but my wife uses Win95, and is looking to replace Netscape 6, which is too slow on the old P233. So I need a lighter browser for Windows.-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:03:43 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2001 12:01 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: I must have tabs, so Mozilla or Galeon ( or Opera ) are on my list. I've been using Galeon in Linux, but my wife uses Win95, and is looking to replace Netscape 6, which is too slow on the old P233. So I need a lighter browser for Windows.-- Opera ?? Yes, but the new opera is getting pretty heavy also. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
I use Sylpheed for mail and news, although the newsreader is not great, the combination is very well implemented and very fast. On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 12:25:38 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have given up on netscape 6.2 as a news reader. Just not working (In my hands). Any suggestions for a news client? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
sylpheed --compose On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:49:01 -0600 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins Using Sylpheed, How do you call the mail composer from browser? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bluefish and galeon
Odd, when I try this I have to close Galeon to reactivate Bluefish. I'm in Libranet (debian with woody update). You just entered galeon %s as the command? On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:33:39 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just hacked a webpage tonight with bluefish. Pretty easy to use. Bluefish allows you to view the html you are creating with Netscape, which is all fine and good if you like waiting for Netscape to start each time. Fortunately in the external preferences, bluefish does allow you to override the browser. When I set this to galeon %s, I was much happier. When galeon is already running, it just opens a new tabbed window in the already running browser. Of course you do need to remember to x out the window each time, or you will have dozen's of tabs hanging around. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre6+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FYI [Fwd: [announce] OpenOffice.org Build 641b]
Previously, Collins Richey chose to write: 1 How to deinstall OO (old version) What I did, to try it out, was extract the download into a directory off my home dir, then make a script that cd's to that directory and runs the 'soffice' script. or just cd to the dir and run ./soffice Of course, this is an individual install. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Interesting, they have .deb, .rpm, and tar.gz. Waiting for the first review.. ;-) On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:00:51 + Chris Kassopulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.opera.com/linux/ -- Chris Kassopulo _/\_ Linux User #199893 _/\_ Vector Linux ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
I've been using Mozilla, and like it. I also use Opera 5, and am happy with it as is. I wonder if I should chance the upgrade, in light of the tech preview status of the current 6.0 release. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:38:28 + dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ken, I put it on early this morning. It seems to have grown about a MB or so in size, but it has some neat built in features like translations, dictionary and encyclopedia. It also has an irritating popup disclainer when it first runs. All in all it is kind of nice so far. I don't have the cpu to run Mozilla or the patience to use Netscape, so I like using opera. Give it a try, you might like it :) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:39:25 + dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you save the old version and come back to it if you don't like the new one? Dallam I think I can save it. Does the new one seem stable? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
oK, thanks for the feedback. Guess I'll give it a go. (You sure have a lot of blank space at the bottom of your messages.) On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:00:43 + dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, Yes, it seems well tested and stable. No crashes, freezes or anything like that. I have had in about 18 hours now without a hitch but YMMV as you know :) Thus spake Ken Moffat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I think I can save it. Does the new one seem stable? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered Linux User #213656 access to power must be limited to those who are not in love with it --Plato ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:47:21 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a good WYSIWYG HTML Editor? Not wysiwyg, but Bluefish is a good html editor. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Got it, installed on Libranet (deb). Seems excellent. Thanks again. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:00:43 + dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, Yes, it seems well tested and stable. No crashes, freezes or anything like that. I have had in about 18 hours now without a hitch but YMMV as you know :) Thus spake Ken Moffat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I think I can save it. Does the new one seem stable? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: lots of fun with galeon
I tried galeon, and it's great, but won't install on my Libranet (debian) system. I'm using testing, just upgraded, and apparently there are dependency problems. Bum deal. No glib-config, needs orbit, and glib = 1.2.9. Too much for me. On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:54:12 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you haven't tried it yet, galeon 1.0 has been released. galeon is the browser that mozilla would like to be when it grows up. -- Collins Richey -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Happy Thanksgiving
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:01:00 -0600 (CST) Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Happy Thanksgiving to our American members. Absolutely! Happy Thanksgiving to all my neigbours from south of the 49th Parallel. May this year find us all more appreciative of what we have. Thank you, gentlemen. Most kind. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hdc
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:18:57 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:32, Randy Donohoe wrote: Trying to get my DVD set up as a reader for X CD Roast I used the following command, cd /dev rm hdc ln -s scd1 hdc. Somehow it's made my DVD disappear. That's because the /dev directory does not contain 'files' as such but simply a look up table for the all-important device nodes. Major / minor nodes are like PO boxes, each one is uniquely assigned, and set in concrete. to a specific type of driver (scsi, cd, video, etc). The nodes are used to communicate with a given driver, the name 'hdc', or 'pink_elephants', has no meaning to the driver, simply that 'pink_elephants' is an accepted alias for a node. Thus there was no problem symlinking node 11/1 to 'hdc', it simply meant that the label 'hdc' was henceforth a scsi cd driver name. (unusual but not an issue). What happened however is that by doing so you removed any nodal reference to 22 0, the device node that the ide cdrom driver expects. Thus, your DVD 'dissappeared' because there was no means of accessing 22 0, even though the driver was sitting there patiently waiting. And the solution to this problem, which I may also suffer from, is. ? In RedHat7.1 all is well, I can play music, r/w data, and use cdrecord ... however, in Libranet (debian) ... I can access my dvd and cd-rw drives as cdroms (data) but not play music through the speakers, although the cdplayer software shows song playing progress and song names, and headphones are working on the cd-rw. My mistake was trying to add scsi support for the cd-rw, to allow cdrecord. This failed for some reason, so I tried to backtrack and ended with no sound from music cd's. ARghh! Unfortunately, I love Libranet, much preferring it to Redhat. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hdc
That's because the /dev directory does not contain 'files' as such but simply a look up table for the all-important device nodes. Would MAKEDEV be applicable? (just read about that on alt.linux.debian) man MAKEDEV (yes, all caps!) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Windows RG
:-) Someone had too much time on their hands. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:58:41 -0800 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Flash demonstration -- works just like the real thing. http://fterral.free.fr/divers/27549_winrg.swf In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | +--+ /\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mozilla shtml
Anyone have trouble getting Mozilla 0.9.5 to do shtml? It seems to have worked in the past, (0.9.3) but I could be wrong. (I'm using a Debian flavor of linux, Libranet, and apt-get found Mozilla 0.9.5 on the ximian site, I think.) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla shtml
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:02:14 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think i've had problems, but i've never noticed. Do you have a specific website in mind where its not working? On www.fidelity.com, when I try to login (link at top of page) the link does nothing. On www.qualstarcu.com, same thing. (home banking direct link). These are the only 2 I've tried, and both are https:// links. --- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have trouble getting Mozilla 0.9.5 to do shtml? It seems to have worked in the past, (0.9.3) but I could be wrong. (I'm using a Debian flavor of linux, Libranet, and apt-get found Mozilla 0.9.5 on the ximian site, I think.) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla shtml
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:13:39 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: Anyone have trouble getting Mozilla 0.9.5 to do shtml? It seems to have worked in the past, (0.9.3) but I could be wrong. (I'm using a Debian flavor of linux, Libranet, and apt-get found Mozilla 0.9.5 on the ximian site, I think.) I'd try a nightly, ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk I'll try it. thanks. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla shtml
Tried it and it works... Thanks for the advice. Ken On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:13:39 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously, Ken Moffat chose to write: Anyone have trouble getting Mozilla 0.9.5 to do shtml? It seems to have worked in the past, (0.9.3) but I could be wrong. (I'm using a Debian flavor of linux, Libranet, and apt-get found Mozilla 0.9.5 on the ximian site, I think.) I'd try a nightly, ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk and see if the problem still exists there. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Les Bell... ? [was: Re: apm install error]
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:54:31 +0100 (CET) Zoran Grbic-Mailinglist account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *** Slight change of subject just to aks you about Les. Do you know what he's up to? Haven't heard of him ever since the Caldera debacle... He posted on the Caldera users list on 11/11; thread 'messaging server password' -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Les Bell... ? [was: Re: apm install error]
I thought he was in the beginning, but he might be overwhelmed with postings and had to make a choice. On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:52:38 +0100 (CET) Zoran Grbic-Mailinglist account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 12 Ken Moffat was heard saying: -On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:54:31 +0100 (CET) -Zoran Grbic-Mailinglist account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - - *** Slight change of subject just to aks you about Les. Do you know what - he's up to? Haven't heard of him ever since the Caldera debacle... - - - -He posted on the Caldera users list on 11/11; thread 'messaging server -password' *** OK, thanks. Just a last one for the road: Shouldn't he be invited to this list? Or is he already? Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Les Bell... ? [was: Re: apm install error]
There was a lot of that Caldera bashing going on at first. too bad. There were some very knowledgable people lost to this list. On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:38:53 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Les was here for a little bit. Then some flame war erupted about something, There was a lot of that Caldera bashing going on at first. Too bad. There were some very knowledgable people lost to this list. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTFwd: [linux-elitists] Attention Ingenious Patriots!
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:01:35 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just thinking, since they keep hitting civilian targets with their great smart bombs, perhaps they should program them to hit civilian targets and then when they miss, they just might hit the military targets that they are after. Isn't technology great? I think we should just drop guns all over Afghanistan along with the food packets, and offer a much bigger reward for bin Laden and friends. (It would probably be cheaper.) Sorry,toofarofftopic -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cpu monitor
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:36:14 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have gkrellm. Do I need to recompile the kernel to install lm_sensors and i2c? Never mind, rtfm and compiled and it works. Thanks. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cpu monitor
I have gkrellm. Do I need to recompile the kernel to install lm_sensors and i2c? On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:59:24 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: go get gkrellm, and then install lm_sensors and i2c -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cpu monitor
Looks interesting, thanks. Ken On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:40:49 -0300 Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Search lm_sensors in freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=lm_sensors). You'll find the drivers needed (lm_sensors) and a lots of tools to monitor and more. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: JVM
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:12:21 -0400 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, I'm trying to install LimeWire onto my RH7.1 box and when I execute the LImeWireLinux.bin it says there is no JVM installed. Here is the error: Preparing to install... No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH environment variable. You must install a VM prior to running this program. I know I have one installed cause I had to install it for Moneydance to run. I did a find on jvm got the following: /usr/include/jvmpi.h /usr/java/include/jvmdi.h /usr/java/include/jvmpi.h /usr/java/include-old/jvm.h /usr/java/include-old/jvmdi.h /usr/java/include-old/jvmpi.h /usr/java/include-old/linux/jvm_md.h /usr/java/jre/lib/i386/classic/libjvm.so /usr/java/jre/lib/jvm.hprof.txt I tried adding a few of these to my $PATH to no avail. Anyone know which, if any, of the above paths is the correct one for the installation to find the jvm? Show us your $PATH. When a program complains about not finding jvm I don't think it's the jvm.h headers but rather the java runtime environment. Usually the path is not pointing to it. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Anyone else using OpenOffice638?
Just installed binaries on Libranet (debian). Starts in about 5 or 6 seconds on my Athlon1.4 with 256Megs ddr ram. Very impressive. Of course I haven't done anything with it yet... Go Mariners! On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:26:34 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins Richey babbled on about: I've just put up OpenOffice638 (from binaries) and started to play with it. Boy did the installer ever suck my system dry. No errors, but nothing else would run until it finished! oo638 takes 1 full minute to initialize, but it's reasonably speedy once up and running. Selecting a font is a little sluggish, since I dumped a buch of TT fonts into my X startup, but it prints without any tinkering with the print settings. I'm curious what results someone with a 256Meg machine would get. The few pages I've keyed into the word processor (including tables and images or fancy characters) work without a hitch. Looks like a very professional product. slowly converting the people at work to OpenOffice (windows version). like it a lot! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nfAdmin: http://hunley.homeip.net Illiterate? Write for help! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD-RWs
On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:18:32 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still burning my cd with windows 98. Cannot comment on the linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s all I care. for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ??? hmm... :) I have a 12x10x32 LiteOn that works fine using cdrecord under RedHat7.1 using scsi emulation. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD-RWs
Don't know about burn proof, I have read that people can't make it work, but how do I know if it works or not? Just know the drive burns cd's using cdrecord. On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:23:53 -0700 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On October 4, 2001 03:23 am, Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:18:32 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still burning my cd with windows 98. Cannot comment on the linux support for LiteOn. It's cheap, reliable and fast. That' s all I care. for USD76, you possibly can buy a 16w Liteon in Hongkong.! 8w ??? hmm... :) I have a 12x10x32 LiteOn that works fine using cdrecord under RedHat7.1 using scsi emulation. Including burnproof? I'm kinda worried about the low amount of cache that the drive's got. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2
Looks like it requires Flash or Shockwave. On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:11:33 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When my girls try to visit Barbie.com using Konq the screen won't load. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: libranet!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Sep 2001, at 21:18, Ken Moffat wrote: Wow, just installed Libranet, downloaded iso and wrote to cd, installed easily, and it's full of features. I'm liking it. Anyone have any bad experiences to relate? Nothing that was Libranets fault. Just me being dumb about apt and apt get I've certainly messed up, in one way or another, almost every distro I've tried. Learning curve. One other thing, if you upgrade KDE, your menu will change to the std KDE menus that are with Debian. Not the one that Libranet spplies. Its no biggie, just one of those things. Ray Thanks, -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: libranet!
Keith Antoine wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:18, you wrote: Wow, just installed Libranet, downloaded iso and wrote to cd, installed easily, and it's full of features. I'm liking it. Anyone have any bad experiences to relate? For my info what is libranet for ? Sorry to be so abtuse. Libranet is a Linux derivitive of Debian, with a good installer and nice setup. someone was talking about it on one of the lists, comparing it to Progeny, which for some reason didn't recognize my nic, so I installed and like it. The Kernel is 2.4.3-2, and it gave me IceWM by default, one I hadn't used, (also there are sawfish, enlightenment, xfce, windowmaker, blackbox, fvwm, fvwm2, gnome, kde.) It had the .7 version of mozilla, so I wanted to upgrade, and just started the updater, entered mozilla, and it went out and found .93, then installed it and some libs to make it all work. Very automatic. I guess that's the beauty of debian releases, and this seems like good one. (I know some dislike the automation) Anyway, I'd recommend it, but I've only used it for a few hours. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sound onboard
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:19:36 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reverted to the AC97 onbaord hardware sound If it works in winders then it should work in linux, but I am at a loss as to what I need to do. I have Redhat7.1, and a msi motherboard with athlon 1.4. Redhat setup told me AC97 was unsupported, even though the salesman who sold me this box told me redhat supported it. They didn't like my attitude ;-) so sold me a SBliveValue for cost, free install, to quiet me down. I know that's no help to you, but maybe the MB sound is the unsupported culprit. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: xine compile
Just did this a couple of days ago. Tried exactly what you did, didn't work. Changed the lines I added to ld.so.donf to just one line containing: /usr/local/lib That's all, it worked. Might help to try that. On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:44:28 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have a small problem with the latest xine that I am installing. The xine-libs installs fine but when I compile xine-ui it errors out at:: hecking for xine-config... /usr/local/bin/xine-config checking for XINE-LIB version = 0.9.0... no *** Could not run XINE test program, checking why... I have entered in ld.so.conf the lines:: /usr/local/share/xine /usr/local/lib/xine -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
libranet!
Wow, just installed Libranet, downloaded iso and wrote to cd, installed easily, and it's full of features. I'm liking it. Anyone have any bad experiences to relate? ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NIMDA worm: JavaScript
On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:48:43 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The worm will also propagate through network shares. It isn't going to activate and infect a Linux client, but a linux client could 'share' it to other Windows boxes on the same network if they are unlucky enough to pull across that file. Does this thing work on it's own, or is it necessary to run an attachment or open a message with an attachment? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mozilla 0.9.4 java plugin
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to have started magically working for me not me, I deleted it, don't care. Flash works so far. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who had the ELF errors with Mozilla flash?
Under Help/About plugins I see Splash and FutureSplash. Don't know if is normal or if it matters. On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:49:14 -0700 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On September 17, 2001 02:05 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works ok here. I downloaded the latest flash from macromedia. No crashes. (Not much testing yet) I thought that perhaps my version of the flash plugin was outdated, so I downloaded it again too, but its the same version that i used previously. It just refuses to get recognized by mozilla-0.9.4. Works just fine in 0.9.3. Ken, you sure that you're doing this with 0.9.4? Any secrets to your success? What sites don't work? I'll give 'em a try. I have tried a few in the flash showcase, and they seem to work here with Mozilla 0.9.4. I think I installed flash to the Netscape plugin directory, and there are links to it in the mozilla plugin directory. Uh can't even get www.flash.com to load which I assume would be a good point to start at and one you've probably already tried. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who had the ELF errors with Mozilla flash?
Odd that it works here. I had it lock up last night while looking at the National Geographic Pearl Harbor map, which is a great site. Maybe someone can try it and see if it works for them. I went through the whole time line, and it seemed to work fine in mozilla. After about 45 minutes of use, with several windows open, it locked solid. Required reset! Anyway, I think it's www.nationalgeographic.com/pearlharbor I think this is flash, but I'm not sure. On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:19:49 -0700 David Aikema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On September 17, 2001 07:32 pm, Net Llama wrote: No sites work. When I start mozilla it spits out an error that the flash plugin does not have an ELF format header. Sounds familiar the browser will still start up and can browse to a site with flash... but upon trying to load up the plugin mozilla simply freezes. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who had the ELF errors with Mozilla flash?
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works ok here. I downloaded the latest flash from macromedia. No crashes. (Not much testing yet) I thought that perhaps my version of the flash plugin was outdated, so I downloaded it again too, but its the same version that i used previously. It just refuses to get recognized by mozilla-0.9.4. Works just fine in 0.9.3. Ken, you sure that you're doing this with 0.9.4? Any secrets to your success? What sites don't work? I'll give 'em a try. I have tried a few in the flash showcase, and they seem to work here with Mozilla 0.9.4. I think I installed flash to the Netscape plugin directory, and there are links to it in the mozilla plugin directory. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SETI...
What's to question. They scan the heavens, and we analyze the results. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:01:17 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My system is still one SETI unit daily. But I really question this program. Frankly, I question the value of this search program. And we could stop this program from running without crashing a plane into WTC, right? :) Not funny. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
