otFor Our Aussie Friends
Sydney, 800 miles S. of Nova Scotia (SatireWire.com) - After what witnesses described as an all night blinder during which it kept droning on about how it was always being bloody ignored by the whole bloody world and would bloody well stand to do something about it, Australia this morning woke up to find itself in the middle of the North Atlantic. http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml -- Morton's Law: If rats are experimented upon, they will develop cancer. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
Typing furiously on February 13, Net Llama managed to emit: Subject basically asks it all. Has anyone successfully built Mozilla from source? If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need to get it to build into a fully functional package? Got any chicken feet? Kurt -- I will make no bargains with terrorist hardware. -- Peter da Silva ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
Typing furiously on February 11, daddy managed to emit: On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? That you've been hacked. Kurt -- Why do they call a fast a fast, when it goes so slow? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Ping
Typing furiously on February 11, Ian managed to emit: Pong. Game, set, match. Kurt -- New England Life, of course. Why do you ask? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel recommendations
Typing furiously on February 07, Collins managed to emit: I've been off the linux lists for a couple of weeks. Is 2.4.17 a safe kernel for upgrading? I've used it without incident. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
Typing furiously on February 06, Michael Hipp managed to emit: On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote: rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/ [snip] After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks. Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help? On my Red Hat box, it comes from the gcc source rpm. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: A Fat-Finger Fixer
Typing furiously on February 07, Kevin O'Gorman managed to emit: Okay, I'll bite. What is it? There's no man page for 'shopt', nor any mention of it in the bash manpage as a builtin, so I'm mystified. That's on eD2.4, anyway. I don't recall which bash version was the default in eD 2.4, but methinks shopt is bash 2.x. In any event, shopt -s cdspell sets the cdspell option, which has the following effect: cdspell If set, minor errors in the spelling of a directory component in a cd command will be corrected. The errors checked for are transposed characters, a missing character, and one character too many. If a correc tion is found, the corrected file name is printed, and the command proceeds. This option is only used by interactive shells. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Header include question
Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit: List / Kurt if he is there I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set set into my path but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else. Any ideas how to get arounf this? I don't really understand what the problem is. Kurt -- Go to a movie tonight. Darkness becomes you. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley
Typing furiously on February 06, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Michael Hipp babbled on about: What's the *proper* way to do this (verify the libs)? rpm -q -a|more P.S. I recommend you run XFree86 in 100 DPI mode for best results. How is this done? xdpyinfo|grep resol then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other? If you startX from the command line, $ startx -- -dpi 100 If you use a display manager (gdm/xdm/kdm), edit the file that starts the X server and add -dpi 100 to the command line. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux Cartoon
Scribbling feverishly on February 04, burns managed to emit: This is a classic: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/fw/2002/fw020203.gif Classic indeed! Kurt -- You love your home and want it to be beautiful. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
Scribbling feverishly on January 22, Andrew Mathews managed to emit: [...] offered, t-shirts, tux penguins, pictures of me, well maybe not me, but Kurt, Doug, Lonnie, Burnsie, Kantoine, and Mike Andrews at least. BG Do we *really* want to see a picture of Kantoine in a thong? ;-) Kurt -- Don't plan any hasty moves. You'll be evicted soon anyway. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:41:15 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if its' worth the salt. The curious thing is... they want $500.00 for the fully supported product... I don't know that this is their reasoning. Intel worked very closely with various OSS groups to make sure that their I64 had good support in Linux. I think Intel is just looking to make a buck. Likely so. Various folks from Intel also participate in GCC development. Intel has a vested interest in making sure that code will run on the IA64 platform. Keep in mind that even if the Intel compiler is faster, better etc than gcc, this isn't all that much of a coup. THe Portland Group has been putting out 'commericial' grade compilers that whip the GNU compilers in performance for years. Precisely. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: init and defunct process cleanup
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:12:42 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a process or two that are listed as defunct and are owned by init. It was my understanding that these types of processes would get init as their parent, and periodically init would scan its children and remove the defunct ones. These processes seem to be hanging around. They don't respond to kill signals at all (I sent kill -$i where i was 1-15) and they are still there. Can I signal init to tell it to cleanup its children?-- Orphaned processes (processes whose parents have died) get owned by init, which then reaps their exit codes and cleans them up neatly. A zombie process is one whose parent did not call wait* on it, so its entry remains in the process table until a reboot. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: NFS filesystem
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:23 -0500 Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting up another Fileserver, and SAMBA server. I am interested in teh most stable filesystem for this server. Reiser I have been told is not the best choice, and I have had corruption problems with it. EXT3?, or EXT2, the old standby. I've had good success with ext3. Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: code red retaliations
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:42:55 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the script I used would turn the damn computer off... I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately suck..-- Ayup, getting sued can ruin your whole day... Kurt ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
Scribbling feverishly on January 23, Tyler Regas managed to emit: Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in all of Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked up, fubarred or othewise rendered useless. Kudzu being what? Its sounds like some sort of biological process... Ew! A plant originally used in the American southeast as roadside cover, until governments discovered that it grows very rapidly, is impossible to kill, and entombs everything in its path in a very attractive, leafy vine. Also the Red Hat hardware probing tool. Kurt -- Your temporary financial embarrassment will be relieved in a surprising manner. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: IHOP OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Tom Wilson managed to emit: Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy. If I don't get there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see the Brickyard 400 in August. Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays. :-) Alas, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I'll explain in another post. Kurt -- You can do very well in speculation where land or anything to do with dirt is concerned. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: IHOP OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Tom Wilson babbled on about: Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy. If I don't get there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see the Brickyard 400 in August. Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays. :-) not to spill the beans, but this ain't true anymore I'll leave it to Kurt to say more, but his Hoosier days are short-lived Indeed. I'll explain in a separate post, for those of you that care. Kurt -- You will hear good news from one you thought unfriendly to you. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
New Address, Job OT
Hi, list, As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their APIs and other development and programming tools. For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will continue to function. If anyone here lives in the Pittsburgh area, contact me off list and perhaps we can get together once my life settles down a bit. Blessed be, Kurt -- Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
Scribbling feverishly on January 22, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on these lists getting together? If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think? I'm all for it. Kurt -- Your business will assume vast proportions. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (no subject)
Scribbling feverishly on January 21, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: dilyard root babbled on about: pong ignore him. he's a smart@$$ There are several such on this list. I, of course, am not one of them. ;-) Kurt -- You now have Asian Flu. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Open Invitation OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 19, Tom Wilson managed to emit: [...] Though you may want to contact me through e-mail first if you do 'cause I think there are quite a few William Thomas' in the local phone book. Really? There are lots of Joseph Smiths in Salt Lake City. ;-) Kurt -- You will win success in whatever calling you adopt. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Open Invitation OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Burns MacDonald managed to emit: Keith scribbled: Do not know if the car will make it on a tank of gas. I should think it's the pontoons you'd need to worry about. ;o) Yeah, and I would expect his arms to get awful tired from the rowing... Kurt -- It's lucky you're going so slowly, because you're going in the wrong direction. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (no subject)
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Bruce Marshall managed to emit: On Friday 18 January 2002 22:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit: tsting wrkng K Say wht? Doug and I are having breakfast at a Waffle House in Columbus, OH later this morning. I'm passing through on my way to Pittsburgh. Kurt -- Afternoon very favorable for romance. Try a single person for a change. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 19 msgs
Scribbling feverishly on January 19, Lavinius Romio Petru managed to emit: [comprehensive list expansions for MCSE elided' There :) ROFLMAO! Show-off. ;-) Kurt -- Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (no subject)
Scribbling feverishly on January 19, David Aikema managed to emit: On January 18, 2002 07:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit: tsting wrkng I think you misspelled that. It should be wrking. You've gotta stay true to form after all. Consistency, perchance? I think it was Mencken that remarked a foolishly held consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. ;-) If it wasn't Mencken, it's the kind of remark he *would* have made if he'd thought of it... Kurt -- You're being followed. Cut out the hanky-panky for a few days. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2/ext3
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Ken Moffat managed to emit: I'm confused. The partitioner thread left me scratching my head. I have several ext2 partitions, and several questions. Can I make these ext2's into ext3's using tune2fs? Yes. Can I go back and forth? Yes. Can I change them using fstab settings? No. Must I run fsck? No. But it will. Is any of this dangerous? No. Is there a step for this? No. Kurt -- Everything will be just tickety-boo today. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xscreensaver-4.0
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit: Is this on your Slackware box? Yes. I built and installed GTK+ and GDK from source. They live under /usr/local/mumble. As does Xscreensaver, I might add. I've attempted it on a RH7.x box and i get errors like these during 'make': gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wno-format -std=c89 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -c -I. -I. -I./../utils -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/lib/gnome-libs/include -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/usr/local/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_PATH_PREFIX='/usr/local/lib/xscreensaver' -I./../utils/images -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_ICONDIR='/usr/share/pixmaps' \ -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include \ ./demo-Gtk.c In file included from /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdk.h:31, from /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk/gtk.h:31, from ./demo-Gtk.c:66: /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdktypes.h:33: glib.h: No such file or directory [snip] If you've got the right *-devel packages, then it should work. I don't know off the top of my head why glib.h isn't there, because you can't build GTK+ without it. Try running a --verify with rpm -q for the various GTK+ and GDK RPMs. That might shed some light on why things are breaking. Kurt -- Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext2/ext3
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, dep managed to emit: On Friday 18 January 2002 05:32, Kurt Wall wrote: | Can I change them using fstab settings? | | No. well, um, yes and no. going back to ext2 requires editing /etc/fstab, does it not? and on some systems (i'm thinking suse 7.3 here), in Yes, you have to edit /etc/fstab, too. But, changing the FS from ext3 to ext2 is not accomplished simply by editing /etc/fstab, which is how I understood the question. addition to getting the repaired mk_inittab script from suse, one needs to set up fstab such that / is ext3, but additional partitions may be set to auto. (in suse, for reasons not yet translated from the german, setting / to auto boots it as ext2, while on subsequent partitions if the setting is ext3, they're usually not mounted at all, though you can do it by hand after the machine is booted. and if that makes it seem that suse 7.3 is a fundamentally good distribution cloaked in a cloud of configurational fog -- well, i have no argument to the contrary.) I'll leave it to others to fight this partiular religious war. I have no opinion on SuSE. [...] Kurt -- You need more time; and you probably always will. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! mother of all sue-fests indeed! Looks like I'll be spending more money on Philips products in the future. :-P Kurt -- Your lover will never wish to leave you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: mars_nwe
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Net Llama managed to emit: --- Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the the project dead? oook? Is the [mars_nwe] project dead? Don't know, but the technology is moribund. Kurt -- Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (no subject)
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit: tsting wrkng K -- You will engage in a profitable business activity. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Pam R managed to emit: On Thursday 17 January 2002 2:51 am, burns wrote: On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote: Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live in. ...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was. No, it's the phase of the moon that is critical. No, no, no. You must hold your mouth properly. [sigh] How many times do I have to tell people this! Kurt -- You will be winged by an anti-aircraft battery. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xscreensaver-4.0
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit: Anyone successfully built Xscreensaver-4.00 from source? I'm running into annoying gtk errors when compiling. I've never had problems building previous versions. It went okay here. Whassa matter? K -- You plan things that you do not even attempt because of your extreme caution. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Keith Antoine managed to emit: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:32,Kurt Wall scribed: Actually, you can use tune2fs to disable journaling on the filesystem in question, turning ext3 back into ext2. Kurt I looked at man tune2fs and it does not say anything there. So if so what is the command. Oops. debugfs is the proper command. Run debugfs on the FS in question, do feature -feature_to_remove, then write and exit. Kurt -- Fine day for friends. So-so day for you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xscreensaver-4.0
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit: [...] Ugh. I've had [gtk|glib]-devel-1.2.10 installed for months, yet i don't have glib.h installed. I've also got gnome-devel* installed. This looks to be leading down a dependency path of hell. Could I build against lesstif instead? Hrmmm...something like: ./configure --with-lesstif=? Yes. ./configure --help shows near the bottom the correct invocation to build against motif/lesstif rather than GTK. Kurt -- Your best consolation is the hope that the things you failed to get weren't really worth having. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
Scribbling feverishly on January 16, Keith Antoine managed to emit: On Wednesday 16 January 2002 13:24, Tim Wunder Sarpend his Quill and: However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions that are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot work with ext3 partitions. But isn't ext3 just ext2 with journaling? Can't you make the partition ext2 without destroying the data? Then, resize the partition as ext2 and the rebuild the journal and make it an ext3 partition? Just asking... Tim Does not work that way mate...In Suse you either have it as ext2 or ext3. If its ext3 you cannot turn it back to ext2 without formatting AFAIK. Actually, you can use tune2fs to disable journaling on the filesystem in question, turning ext3 back into ext2. Kurt -- You will gain money by a fattening action. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Microsoft Support OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 14, burns managed to emit: One of our accountants recently bought a special bundled deal from IBM. Included with the PC was a digital camera. The PC came with XP pre-loaded. There are no drivers available to allow the camea to work under XP. Go figgur. PS: Is this a reflection on accountants, MS or IBM? Yes. K -- What happened last night can happen again. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Microsoft Support OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 15, burns managed to emit: On January 15, 2002 08:54 am, Kurt Wall wrote: I have told them that MCSE stands for Must Consult with Someone Else, Mouse Certified System Engineer Must Confer with Someone Experienced Kurt -- You will be married within a year. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Testing: Ignore
Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Joel Hammer managed to emit: Please ignore. This is only a test. If this had been a real post this would be filled with misinformation. Consider yourself ignored. ;-) Kurt -- Today is what happened to yesterday. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OTRe: Testing: Ignore
Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Bruce Marshall managed to emit: On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:28 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: This is still a test. On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:31:43AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Please ignore. This is only a test. If this had been a real post this would be filled with misinformation. Joel Yes, but how can it be an official test without the obligatory humor attached... :o) True. We *do* have certain standards on this list, after all. Kurt -- Don't tell any big lies today. Small ones can be just as effective. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: skyblade homeip????
Scribbling feverishly on January 12, edj managed to emit: Anybody able to get to skyblade.homeip.net lately? It's supposed to have the xine rpms. Can't ping it, but it does resolve: $ ping -c 4 skyblade.homeip.net PING skyblade.homeip.net (213.220.180.63): 56 octets data --- skyblade.homeip.net ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Kurt -- Tonight's the night: Sleep in a eucalyptus tree. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Keith Antoine managed to emit: Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used noramlly. Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. grin Yes Sir, Mr. Antoine, Sir. [snippage] K -- There will be big changes for you but you will be happy. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another web server - xitami
Scribbling feverishly on January 11, Chang managed to emit: http://www.xitami.com is it as good as apache? Beats me. They don't make source code available for Linux... Kurt -- Your boyfriend takes chocolate from strangers. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?
Scribbling feverishly on January 10, Dave Anselmi managed to emit: Kurt Wall wrote: [...] glibc -- particularly, the resolver library and the NSS (Name Service Switch) facilities. Specifically, the file resolv/resolv.h defines the macro _PATH_RESCONF: #define _PATH_RESCONF /etc/resolv.conf Here's a question that came up in our study group. Do name lookups (name to IP mappings) get cached on a client machine (one without a nameserver)? Arp lookups (MAC to IP mappings) do, but what about DNS? I suppose this is an implementation detail, but RFC1035 suggests that resolver libraries should cache all data: 7.4. Using the cache In general, we expect a resolver to cache all data which it receives in responses since it may be useful in answering future client requests. However, there are several types of data which should not be cached: - When several RRs of the same type are available for a particular owner name, the resolver should either cache them all or none at all. When a response is truncated, and a resolver doesn't know whether it has a complete set, it should not cache a possibly partial set of RRs. - Cached data should never be used in preference to authoritative data, so if caching would cause this to happen the data should not be cached. - The results of an inverse query should not be cached. ... In a similar vein, when a resolver has a set of RRs for some name in a response, and wants to cache the RRs, it should check its cache for already existing RRs. Depending on the circumstances, either the data in the response or the cache is preferred, but the two should never be combined. If the data in the response is from authoritative data in the answer section, it is always preferred. Kurt -- You will gain money by an immoral action. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?
Scribbling feverishly on January 09, Joel Hammer managed to emit: I would like to know how my linux box knows that /etc/resolv.conf is the place to look for dns servers. I have grepped through the linux sources, but could not find any file with resolv.conf in it. glibc -- particularly, the resolver library and the NSS (Name Service Switch) facilities. Specifically, the file resolv/resolv.h defines the macro _PATH_RESCONF: #define _PATH_RESCONF /etc/resolv.conf I grepped /etc and found a few files. One is /etc/lst.cnf, which has all the various files defined, like so: FILE_ETC_HOSTS=/etc/hosts FILE_ETC_RESOLV_CONF=/etc/resolv.conf FILE_ETC_NETWORKS=/etc/networks FILE_ETC_EXPORTS=/etc/exports FILE_ETC_GATEWAYS=/etc/gateways FILE_ETC_HOST_CONF=/etc/host.conf FILE_ETC_INETD_CONF=/etc/inetd.conf FILE_ETC_RC_INET1=$DIR_INIT_CONF/rc.inet1 FILE_ETC_RC_INET2=$DIR_INIT_CONF/rc.inet2 Is this file the basic source file that defines where all these basic files should be? Which programs actually use this file, lst.cnf? No. lst.cnf is the configuration file that used to be used by Caldera's lisa tool. It may still be used by some of Caldera's newer configuration and installation tools, but I no longer track Caldera, so I can't be certain. Kurt -- Be cautious in your daily affairs. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: government skill form
On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:05, Chang wrote: AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :) It is a transmigration of AIX (which is not, incidentally an exclusive IBM 'thing') into the Linux view of the world. [...] Indeed. AIX5L is IBM's version of Monterrey, a joint project of IBM, SCO (and others) for developing a version of Unix to run on the IA64 processor from Intel. Kurt -- Avoid reality at all costs. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: re snapshotsot
On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:03, Douglas J Hunley wrote: a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;) Okay, Okay, *everyone* makes a slipup some times. Hell, I am part human. Are you still wearing your KurtWerks (tm) Hat? Kurt -- You will be held hostage by a radical group. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!
[Reply-To: trimmed] On January 07, Ron Heron enlightened our ignorance thusly: Also, take a look at the Matrox site. They actually provide software! The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86 server. I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons. My nVidia rocks and has Linux drivers provided by nVidia. K -- You are fairminded, just and loving. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question for security gurus
On January 07, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly: If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those in the know. Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a Security Assesment service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc.. I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits. K -- You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? Makers of video cards. Kurt -- Someone is speaking well of you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sigfiles
On January 06, Declan Moriarty enlightened our ignorance thusly: printk(CPU[|d]: Sending penguins to jail...,smp_processor_id()); [... 20 lines ...] printk(CPU[|d]: Giving pardon to imprisoned penguins\n, smp_processor_id()); 2.4.8 arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c panic(IRQ, you lose...); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel/indy_int.c Doug: Are these quotes from REAL source code in use somewhere? Yes they are. What gives anyone the interest to dig them out? Oh, I don't know. Perhaps the same interest that motivates others to collect coins or play with model railroads? Kurt -- You'll be sorry... ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On January 06, Hemo enlightened our ignorance thusly: Odd, I've used the All-InWonder and now the AGP All-In_Wonder 128 PRO under both linux and windows and have been very pleased with it's performance as a TV tuner in both enviros. Indeed. I had an Xpert@Play 98 with 8Mb VRAM that worked like a charm. YMMV, I suppose. Kurt -- You will be reincarnated as a toad; and you will be much happier. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: government skill form
On January 05, Chang enlightened our ignorance thusly: It also got HPUX. BUt I didn't see Sun. AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :) Nope, he isn't kidding. That's what the L is for. Kurt -- Someone whom you reject today, will reject you tomorrow. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
otRe: Internet Server Sanctions
On January 04, Ronnie Gauthier enlightened our ignorance thusly: The point I was making is that even if(when) you get you domain name transfered, if the original hosting entity does not remove you from their dns table no one accessing the net from them(their network) will be able to access your new host. And yes, a user can use just about any dns server, but dont expect the average user to do that, just expect them to say your site is broke. you need to: 1. get a new host...this is easy 2. get the registar to change records to point to the new host... your new host will be the most help here 3. get the old host to delete your dns entryyou might need a guy in a funny wig I'd love to see some of my favorite American barristers dolled up that way... [...] Kurt -- Don't worry. Life's too long. -- Vincent Sardi, Jr. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh plus PATH
On January 04, Dave Anselmi enlightened our ignorance thusly: Tim Wunder wrote: Are you looking for the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=path to libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH The linux loader, ld, keeps its own list of library paths so this tends not to be In /etc/ld.so.conf, correct. necessary. But that means you have to run ldconfig after installing any new libraries (which any well behaved package manager should handle for you). Correct. quibble However, LD_LIBRARY_PATH becomes very handy for running apps when you don't have root access (for ldconfig, for example) or for using libraries not installed in locations about which ld.so knows. /quibble K -- You will be misunderstood by everyone. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: PATH
On January 04, Keith Antoine enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Friday 04 January 2002 07:39 am, Net Llama observed: The basic formatting (whether in .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, or just on the command line) is: export PATH=$PATH;/path/to/more/paths;/another/one Thats fine, thanks; but I seem to remember something else too. That if I used to edit the paths in somewhere' it did not remember it on reboot. I had to do it differently for it to be permenant. So I am guessing the last statement is the one to use?? Dropping such a statement in to the startup configuration files would make it permanent. But, I confess I'm not following you here. Whilst I am here, something else also, in Mandrake 8.1 you can setup easily through 'control center' a shared access to the internet. However it also is not permenant insofar as on reboot I have to go and do a 'reconfigure'. Does anyone know of a workround for this, please. Not I. Kurt -- Avert misunderstanding by calm, poise, and balance. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: receiving my own mail using sendmail
On January 06, Chang enlightened our ignorance thusly: This is such an old question. But I guess I could really learn something. I was trying to send my sendmail a email messages from my yahoo account. And I got the usual newbie error: 553 5.3.5 localhost.myname.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) what did I miss? I got no 553 if I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I misread some docs? My private domain is myname.org. I am using myname.homeip.net as the dynamic DNS name. /var/named/pz/myname.org: # snipped $ORIGIN myname.org. 10 IN MX localhost 20 IN MX localhost localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 #snipped /etc/mail/mailertable: homeip.netsmtp:[localhost] homeip.net. smtp:[localhost] /etc/mail/local-host-names: myname.org This is a FAQ specifically dealth with in the sendmail FAQ at http://www.sendmail.org/. Kurt -- You are magnetic in your bearing. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IT jobs Florida
On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly: [...] The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know just take a couple:). I think I remember that... I certainly recall taking more than just two of anything that came by. If one was good, then two was better, and twenty was perfect. ;-) That any brain cells survived is fscking amazing. Kurt -- Better living through chemistry. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hi there
On January 03, Bill Parker enlightened our ignorance thusly: Thought I would check this list out Greetings. I like it here. They haven't kicked me off yet, anyway. ;-) Kurt -- You will attract cultured and artistic people to your home. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
New Steps 11/12/2001
Kernel - Patching the kernel with pre-[whatever] patches (Collins Richey) Kurt -- About all some men accomplish in life is to send a son to Harvard. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CDRW
Herbert H. DeLong wrote: % Is there a CDRW or CDW on the market and usable in Linux for a % 486DX2-66Mhz? % Also where is it available? I use COL e2.4. Here are some resources: Linux Hardware Database: http://lhd.datapower.com/ Linux Hardware Compatiblity HOWTO: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/cdr.html Linux CD Writing HOWTO http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.5 Kurt -- He who wonders discovers that this in itself is wonder. -- M.C. Escher ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RS6000's
Mike Andrew wrote: % Folks, I've been donated a few older RS6000's. Does someone know how to % install Linux on them? Do I do a cross-compile, if so, how? What? You mean you don't want to use than marvel of engineering, AIX? Kurt -- Most people want either less corruption or more of a chance to participate in it. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hard disk errors....
Federico Voges wrote: % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % Hi, % % Yes, I'll do that as soon as I can. I prefer that it fails/dies in a % test PC than on my server. % % % BTW, is there any way I can check if it has bad sectors?? I know that % fsck can check for and mark the bad sectors. But how can I see the bad % sector list afterwards?? /sbin/badblocks /dev/hda -o /output/file K -- This ae nighte, this ae nighte, Everye nighte and alle, Fire and sleet and candlelyte, And Christe receive thy saule. -- The Lykewake Dirge ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xine Build - Segmentation faults
Declan Moriarty wrote: [...] % % The result is in this limited mode, that if you try to grab something off the % wrong page, you get a segmentation fault. But linux requires a 386+ because % it never wants to use this stupid way of going on in the first place (GOOD % WORK, LINUS!). When you see Segmentation Fault, that cpu is in real mode, % the application is has gone off the rails and switched the cpu to real mode % which I don't think linux ever uses. So there's either a dud compiler, dud % support files, dud disk, dud rpm, or dud something. Time for the M$ solution % (delete reinstall). Lastly, don't take all of this as gospel; I'm an % electronic hardware type, with no authority on software issues. Segmentation faults occur when there is an illegal memory access of any type. In software, it most often occurs when when referencing a undefined pointer or accessing unallocated memory (outside of an array, for example). In Linux, applications cannot drop the CPU into real mode -- the kernel controls this. Moreover, the kernel *does* use real mode, but only at boot time, and it jumpts to protected mode fairly early. Kurt -- Ben, why didn't you tell me? -- Luke Skywalker ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: EXT3 on laptops...
Bruce Marshall wrote: [...] % To tape? Question is, what happens when you restore (perhaps from a % backup system) and then boot the ext3 root. I suppose it all works fine. Yes, it does. I've had no trouble booting with / on an ext3 FS. Kurt -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /etc/whois.conf
Chang wrote: % But how should I enter the whois server list? Try entering just the bare server name (for example, whois.networksolutions.com) and see what happens. [snippage] Kurt -- The default Magic Word, Abracadabra, actually is a corruption of the Hebrew phrase ha-Bracha dab'ra which means pronounce the blessing. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TCP protocol 2
Chang wrote: % What is that site trying to do? I have never gone that IP. % WOuld I lose a thing by turning off protocol 2 in /etc/protocols? You might break IP multicasting. Kurt -- Why, every one as they like; as the good woman said when she kissed her cow. -- Rabelais ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TCP protocol 2
Chang wrote: % what services use multicasting? I believe watching realmedia movie or % listenging to midi/mp3 online wouldn't use it, right? ftp, http, ssh, % nntp, ... typical internet services would not use it. I'm no expert, but I'm not aware of any of the standard services that require multicasting, although I believe that a NIC's promiscuous mode uses the multicast address (224.0.0.1). In any event, it should be simple to use iptables to drop, reject, or deny multicast packets. Kurt -- Nirvana? That's the place where the powers that be and their friends hang out. -- Zonker Harris ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hard disk errors....
Federico Voges wrote: % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % Hi, % % I'm getting these errors: % % Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady % SeekComplete Error } % Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { % UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=786516, sector=786452 % Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:04 (hda), % sector 786452 % Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,4)): % read_block_bitmap: Cannot read block bitmap - block_group = 48, % block_bitmap = 393226 % % Are these heardware or software related?? Hardware. Try turning off dma for /dev/hda, that is: hdparm -d 0 /dev/hda Kurt -- Message will arrive in the mail. Destroy, before the FBI sees it. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more KDE build problems
Net Llama wrote: [...] % XFCE is a beauty to behold, and a joy to build. % XFCE forever Ayup. K -- You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy. A pity that it's totally undeserved. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /etc/whois.conf
Chang wrote: % that's exactly what I was trying to find, too... :) % the man said there was such a file. but no sample so far. % I did search google.com. nothing Hmm. Who's whois is it? Kurt -- People respond to people who respond. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT I Knew It!
Todays' Slashdot poll: the level of education completed by /. readers. With high school still in session, high school is in second place. 'nuff said. Kurt -- We Americans, we're a simple people... but piss us off, and we'll bomb your cities. -- Robin Williams, _Good Morning Vietnam_ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /etc/whois.conf
Chang wrote: % I couldn't find information on the syntax of this file. % Could someone offer a link or an example? Never heard of it. Have an example? Kurt -- If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Suse 7.3 and SMTP on ISP
Susan Macchia wrote: % I recently installed Suse 7.3 and find that I am unable to send mail out % through my ISP's smtp. I haven't changed my kmail or netscape prefs so I was % wondering if anyone has seen this issue? In netscape mail, the sendmailer just % hangs trying to send the mail (4.78). I can receive mail fine, so the % connection is ok. Any ideas? My isp's smtp is smtp.ne.mediaone.net. Do you have a smart host defined? Near the top of sendmail.cf, you should see some lines that resemble # Smart relay host (may be null) DS Change the DS line to DSsmtp.ne.mediaone.net Restart sendmail, and then try again. Kurt -- Anything is possible on paper. -- Ron McAfee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
2001/12/4 New SxS Submissions
Tips - Networking (TrryHend) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Workstation 3.1 on a Compaq 1278
Jerry McBride wrote: % % That's it really, everything else works except the windows buttons. One of % these % days I'll have to find something todo with them. Pry off the key caps and replace them with penguin buttons? Kurt -- I must get out of these wet clothes and into a dry Martini. -- Alexander Woolcott ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [TID] Re: new install init
Keith Antoine wrote: [...] % No you did not, hopefully at my age I am thick skinned anyway. As I have been % in this list and the Caldera list for many years, I have been insulted and % roasted by some experts; Right Kurt ? g [groan] I think I sold you your asbestos thong. Kurt -- I used to be an agnostic, but now I'm not so sure. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new feature!
Douglas J Hunley wrote: % You can now 'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]' to see any new additions to the site. % It will return the contents of the 'New' page. It's updated nightly. % Enjoy! Kewl! -- Prof:So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data encryption standard and they came up with ... Student: EBCDIC! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IRQ Sharing
Net Llama wrote: % % --- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a % couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work, % I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ % sharing. % % I've never run into problems. The (relatively) new feature in recent % 2.4.x kernels for uniproc APIC allows for fairly reliable management of % devices that share an IRQ. % On 2 of my boxes (that happen to be virtually identical HW wise) I have % three IRQs that are being shared (9, 10 11) with no noticable % performance problems. Thanks, Lonnie and others. I haven't seen any problems here, either. Kurt -- One way to stop a runaway horse is to bet on him. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
IRQ Sharing
Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work, I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ sharing. Thanks, Kurt -- If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: excite@home going down?
Jerry McBride wrote: % % I just heard this on the car radio on the way home from work. Excite is % allowed to % disconnect COMCAST@HOME tonight at midnight... No, the judge ruled that Excite@Home has the right to end its contracts with *all* of its cable partners, not just Comcast. But, saying they have a right to does not mean they will. Comcast is putting the best face on it: As of this afternoon, a Bankruptcy Court Judge ruled that Excite@Home has the right to end its contracts with its cable partners. This does not necessarily mean that Excite@Home will turn off the service and, at this time, we are not aware of any planned interruptions. In fact, we are continuing discussions with Excite and the other cable affiliates and creditors to do everything possible to avoid an outage. Kurt -- Next to being shot at and missed, nothing is really quite as satisfying as an income tax refund. -- F. J. Raymond ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Procmail
Matthew Carpenter wrote: % I am unable to get procmail to work! I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file % to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok. I have a .procmailrc % file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs % of what isn't happening! ARG! Help? This is running on COLS3.1 and does include the added bonus of using fetchmail. REPEAT: This is NOT the actual target of the mail. The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but fetchmail is supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the originator. Did you defined PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH? Kurt -- Did I say 2? I lied. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: excite@home going down?
Greg Turpin wrote: % On Wednesday 28 November 2001 8:41 pm, you wrote: % It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without % interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every % month for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody. % This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system. % However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year % I have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if % @HOME goes away. I think that is a good investment. % Joel % % % H...where did you find such a deal? Is your mail stored on a remote % server - or did you have to setup your own server? Register your domain name with a domain name registrar. Mail that can't be delivered to you right away gets queued for later delivery. When your upstream provider goes away, you point DNS at a new provider and, presto, your mail gets delivered. Kurt -- Under every stone lurks a politician. -- Aristophanes ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: Opera 6 beta available
Susan Macchia wrote: % Just to clarify a point, any program can create new windows *without* spawning % a new process. Spawning a process or thread is an implementation detail of an % application that is independent of the user interface. Yup. This point pokes at the event model vs. the thread model argument for building responsive UIs, but now this thread is starting to drift far afield... Kurt -- Nothing increases your golf score like witnesses. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Matthew Carpenter wrote: % On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000 % Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate, it % was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs. So I % would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits. % % % VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without hidden stuff. It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what those zone files are made of! g There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (no subject)
Collins Richey wrote: % % Thanks, David % % That is now very clear; will remember forever. I presume this means, % if you have the pristine base source, you only need the very latest % -pren or -acn patch? % % One more question. When I apply (using one of several methods, % depending on whether still compressed or not, location, etc.) patch % -p0, the patch always fails. I have to use patch -p1. Could you % explain this So, cd up one more directory level (say, from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src) before applying the patch. The number following -p indicates the number of directories (prefixed by /) patch should strip off the filenames embedded in the patch file before applying the patch to the filesystem. So, given a patch file containing a pathname foo/bar/baz/somefile.c: patch -p0 yields foo/bar/baz/somefile.c patch -p1 yields bar/baz/somefile.c patch -p2 yields baz/somefile.c Keep in mind that patch works relative to the current directory. So, in the first example, foo/bar/baz/somefile.c has to exist in foo/bar/baz from your current directory, or the patch will fail. Clear? Kurt -- If it ain't broke, don't fix it. - Bert Lantz ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7
Declan Moriarty wrote: % I'm in trouble - 'Can't mount root filesystem' - that sort of trouble. [tale of woe mercifully deleted] % Any other ideas? Somebody circulated some scripts to rescue this a while % back, but they're saved on the dud partition :-( Try mke2fs -S on the dead partition. -S causes e2fs to write only the superblock and group descriptors, leaving the data alone. Use the same block size as the file system has. The man page entry says it all: -S Write superblock and group descriptors only. This is useful if all of the superblock and backup superblocks are corrupted, and a last-ditch recov ery method is desired. It causes mke2fs to reini tialize the superblock and group descriptors, while not touching the inode table and the block and inode bitmaps. The e2fsck program should be run immediately after this option is used, and there is no guarantee that any data will be salvageable. It is critical to specify the correct filesystem blocksize when using this option, or there is no chance of recovery. Kurt -- His designs were strictly honourable, as the phrase is: that is, to rob a lady of her fortune by way of marriage. -- Henry Fielding, Tom Jones ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Keith Antoine wrote: % I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the first % time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to kde and % in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its stosp and % says:: % init id x respawning too fast, disable for 5 min % % That seems to be a video card problem but the /etc/X11/XF86Config looks ok to % me. % % What am I missing or what do i look for otherwise its a re-install with no % guarantees it will work. Boot to run level 3. To configure X, try running # X -configure which will scribble a configuration file in the current directory. Compare it to the existing configuration file to see if there are major differences. Have a look at the X log in /var/log/whatever to see what the problem is. % card is linux compatible Nvidia gforce with video out, M200 I think from % memory. The driver for this card is nv. Kurt -- No directory. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: html editor (was Opera 6 available)
Declan Moriarty wrote: % % If you need a wysiwyg editor, you're like me - not an expert. There will be % Unix heads who chew matchsticks and do all this in emacs with a quiet % contempt for such editors. Get the book, or print the manual; Years ago I got We could always start an emacs versus vi war. ;-) Just to keep things interesting around here. Kurt -- Life is the living you do, Death is the living you don't do. -- Joseph Pintauro ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7
Dave Anselmi wrote: [...] % You might try mke2fs -n before you go the -S route (and you need the block size % for that too, anyway). [nod] Kurt -- The worst cliques are those which consist of one man. -- G.B. Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
'nudder Test
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HTML Editors (WAS: Re: Opera 6 beta available)
Matthew Carpenter wrote: % Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a good WYSIWYG HTML Editor? [long unwrapped line snipped] There's a product called Quanta. Don't know anything about it, though. Kurt -- History is curious stuff You'd think by now we had enough Yet the fact remains I fear They make more of it every year. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Web Server Working?
Ian Marchak wrote: Quoting Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can anyone out there hit my web site, http://www.kurwerks.com? I can resolve the IP (24.183.213.227), ping, but the web server doesn't appear to be performing up to spec. @home appears to be blocking inbound HTTP requests. Thanks to Ian, Randy, Myles, Bruce, Vern, stayler, Andrew, Bill, Ales Kosir, Keith, and Collins. Kurt -- I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Web Server Working?
Ales Kosir wrote: [kosir@pingo tmp]$ telnet www.kurtwerks.com 80 Trying 24.183.213.227... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host I don't allow telnet access. You could try SSH. But with telnet I requested TCP/IP access to port 80 which is undistinguishable from browser HTTP request... Seems you don't allow browsers to access your site? Actually, *I* allow browswers to surf, but my ISP does not. By the way, ssh is able to reach your host. So I see... Kurt -- Insomnia isn't anything to lose sleep over. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Web Server Working?
Jim Conner wrote: You should be able to set apache to port 8080(or some such) and redirect port 80 to there. I'm not sure how or if it will work. If port 80 is blocked at the router, before it ever gets to my system, port redirection won't work. I've already tried running the server on port 8080, as it happens. Some /etc/service configurations use port 8080 for the webcache service, however. Thanks again, Kurt -- After years of research, scientists recently reported that there is, indeed, arroz in Spanish Harlem. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext3 woes
Mike Andrew wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:54, Kurt Wall wrote: Collins Richey wrote: Thanks Kurt for the fstab sample. That did the trick. Ayup. Kurt For info. Rh72. fstab looks similar to Kurt, specifically LABEL=/1/ ext3defaults1 1 LABEL incidentally will not work for /devfs file systems. Dunno why, and I can't find any documentation as to what LABEL actually does. From man 5 fstab: Instead of giving the device explicitly, one may indicate the (ext2 or XFS) filesystem that is to be mounted by its UUID or volume label (cf. e2label(8) or xfs_admin(8)), writing LABEL=label or UUID=uuid, e.g., `LABEL=Boot' or `UUID=3e6be9de-8139-11d1-9106-a43f08d823a6'. This will make the system more robust: adding or removing a SCSI disk changes the disk device name but not the filesystem volume label. e2label prints and changes the label, as does tune2fs -L. Kurt -- If you think before you speak the other guy gets his joke in first. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ext3 woes
Collins Richey wrote: [...] Thanks Kurt for the fstab sample. That did the trick. Ayup. Kurt -- If you can lead it to water and force it to drink, it isn't a horse. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Happy Thanksgiving
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Re: ext3 query
Keith Antoine wrote: If I have a partition ext2 formatted will using tunefs to make it ext3 compromise that data ? No, it shouldn't. I'd also stick with ordered-data mode. Kurt -- A halted retreat Is nerve-wracking and dangerous. To retain people as men -- and maidservants Brings good fortune. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users