otFor Our Aussie Friends

2002-02-13 Thread kurt . wall

Sydney, 800 miles S. of Nova Scotia (SatireWire.com) - After what 
witnesses described as an all night blinder during which it kept 
droning on about how it was always being bloody ignored by the whole 
bloody world and would bloody well stand to do something about it, 
Australia this morning woke up to find itself in the middle of the 
North Atlantic.

http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml

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Re: who has built Mozilla from source?

2002-02-13 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 13, Net Llama managed to emit:
 Subject basically asks it all.  Has anyone successfully built Mozilla
 from source?  If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need to
 get it to build into a fully functional package?

Got any chicken feet?

Kurt
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Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)

2002-02-12 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 11, daddy managed to emit:
 On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote:
  On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500
 
  Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration:
  You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder.
  Mike
 
  ===
  OOOPS!  I meant rootkit
 
  Mike
 If I have one what does that mean?

That you've been hacked.

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Re: OT Ping

2002-02-11 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 11, Ian managed to emit:
  

Pong. Game, set, match.

Kurt
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Re: kernel recommendations

2002-02-08 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 07, Collins managed to emit:
 I've been off the linux lists for a couple of weeks.
 
 Is 2.4.17 a safe kernel for upgrading?

I've used it without incident.

Kurt
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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-07 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 06, Michael Hipp managed to emit:
 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
  rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm
 
  If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in
  /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/
 [snip]
   After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?
 
  You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm
 
 As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks.
 
 Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of 
 files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
 
 So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the 
 above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help?

On my Red Hat box, it comes from the gcc source rpm.

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Re: A Fat-Finger Fixer

2002-02-07 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 07, Kevin O'Gorman managed to emit:
 Okay, I'll bite.  What is it?  There's no man page for 'shopt', nor any
 mention of it in the bash manpage as a builtin, so I'm mystified.  That's
 on eD2.4, anyway.

I don't recall which bash version was the default in eD 2.4, but methinks
shopt is bash 2.x. In any event, shopt -s cdspell sets the cdspell 
option, which has the following effect:

cdspell If set, minor errors in the spelling  of  a
directory component in a cd command will be
corrected.   The  errors  checked  for  are
transposed characters, a missing character,
and one character too many.  If  a  correc­
tion  is  found, the corrected file name is
printed, and the  command  proceeds.   This
option  is only used by interactive shells.

Kurt
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Re: Header include question

2002-02-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on February 05, Rick Sivernell managed to emit:
 List / Kurt if he is there
 
   I am having a small problem. I have the old stl headers being used 
 before the new version. Would like to know if there is a enviro var that
 is set with the -I include files. I have a envir variables set  set into my path
 but they are not seen unless they have no file by that name anywhere else.
 
   Any ideas how to get arounf this?

I don't really understand what the problem is.

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Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley

2002-02-06 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 06, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 Michael Hipp babbled on about:
  What's the *proper* way to do this (verify the libs)?
 
 rpm -q -a|more
 
 
  P.S. I recommend you run XFree86 in 100 DPI mode for best results.
 
  How is this done?
 
 xdpyinfo|grep resol
 then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other?

If you startX from the command line,

$ startx -- -dpi 100

If you use a display manager (gdm/xdm/kdm), edit the file that 
starts the X server and add -dpi 100 to the command line.
 
Kurt
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Re: Linux Cartoon

2002-02-04 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on February 04, burns managed to emit:
 
 This is a classic:
 
 http://images.ucomics.com/comics/fw/2002/fw020203.gif

Classic indeed!

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Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-02-02 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 22, Andrew Mathews managed to emit:

[...]

 offered, t-shirts, tux penguins, pictures of me, well maybe not me, but
 Kurt, Doug, Lonnie, Burnsie, Kantoine, and Mike Andrews at least. BG

Do we *really* want to see a picture of Kantoine in a thong? ;-)

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Re: Intel compiler

2002-01-28 Thread Kurt Wall

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:41:15 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4
  is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being
  exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if
  its' worth the salt. The curious thing is... they want $500.00 for
  the fully supported product... 
 
 I don't know that this is their reasoning.  Intel worked very closely
 with various OSS groups to make sure that their I64 had good support
 in Linux.  I think Intel is just looking to make a buck.

Likely so. Various folks from Intel also participate in GCC development.
Intel has a vested interest in making sure that code will run on the
IA64 platform.

 Keep in mind that even if the Intel compiler is faster, better etc
 than gcc, this isn't all that much of a coup.  THe Portland Group has
 been putting out 'commericial' grade compilers that whip the GNU
 compilers in performance for years.

Precisely.

Kurt
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Re: init and defunct process cleanup

2002-01-28 Thread Kurt Wall

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:12:42 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a process or two that are listed as defunct and are owned by
 init. It was my understanding that these types of processes would get
 init as their parent, and periodically init would scan its children
 and remove the defunct ones. These processes seem to be hanging
 around. They don't respond to kill signals at all (I sent kill -$i
 where i was 1-15) and they are still there. Can I signal init to tell
 it to cleanup its children?-- 

Orphaned processes (processes whose parents have died) get owned by
init, which then reaps their exit codes and cleans them up neatly. A
zombie process is one whose parent did not call wait* on it, so its
entry remains in the process table until a reboot.

Kurt
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Re: NFS filesystem

2002-01-25 Thread Kurt Wall

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:52:23 -0500 Michael W. Holdeman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Setting up another Fileserver, and SAMBA server. I am interested in
 teh most stable filesystem for this server. Reiser I have been told is
 not the best choice, and I have had corruption problems with it.
 EXT3?, or EXT2, the old standby. 

I've had good success with ext3. 

Kurt
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Re: code red retaliations

2002-01-25 Thread Kurt Wall

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:42:55 -0500 Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 the script I used would turn the damn computer off...
 I abandoned it after a while though cause a lawsuit would definately
 suck..-- 

Ayup, getting sued can ruin your whole day...

Kurt
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Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-23 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 23, Tyler Regas managed to emit:
  Oh gawd no.  Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in all of
  Linux.  I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked up,
  fubarred or othewise rendered useless.
 
 Kudzu being what? Its sounds like some sort of biological process... Ew!

A plant originally used in the American southeast as roadside cover,
until governments discovered that it grows very rapidly, is
impossible to kill, and entombs everything in its path in a very
attractive, leafy vine.

Also the Red Hat hardware probing tool.

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Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Tom Wilson managed to emit:
 Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy.  If I don't get there 
 sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see the 
 Brickyard 400 in August.   
 
 Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays.  :-)

Alas, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I'll explain in another post.

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Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 Tom Wilson babbled on about:
  Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy.  If I don't get
  there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see
  the Brickyard 400 in August.
 
  Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays.  :-)
 
 not to spill the beans, but this ain't true anymore I'll leave it to Kurt 
 to say more, but his Hoosier days are short-lived

Indeed. I'll explain in a separate post, for those of you that care.

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New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Hi, list,

As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. They market several real-time
OSes, including a version of Linux for the embedded and real-time
spaces. Please don't ask me how it differs from Lineo's Embedix, Red
Hat's embedded Linux, or the RTLinux project, because I do not, at
the moment, fully comprehend the differences between them. I am
in charge of documenting their Linux products, particularly their
APIs and other development and programming tools.

For the time being, I'm staying in some temporary housing but will be
fully relocating to Pittsburgh by February 18. I've a new email
addresss, [EMAIL PROTECTED], but [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
continue to function.

If anyone here lives in the Pittsburgh area, contact me off list and
perhaps we can get together once my life settles down a bit.

Blessed be,

Kurt
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Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 22, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be 
 interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on 
 these lists getting together?
 If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together 
 during Summer 2003. What does everyone think?

I'm all for it.

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Re: (no subject)

2002-01-21 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 21, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 dilyard root babbled on about:
  pong
 
 ignore him. he's a smart@$$

There are several such on this list. I, of course, am not one of
them. ;-)

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Re: Open Invitation OT

2002-01-21 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 19, Tom Wilson managed to emit:

[...]

 Though you may want to contact me through e-mail first if you do 'cause I 
 think there are quite a few William Thomas' in the local phone book.  

Really? There are lots of Joseph Smiths in Salt Lake City. ;-)

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Re: Open Invitation OT

2002-01-21 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Burns MacDonald managed to emit:
 Keith scribbled:
  Do not know if the car will make it on a tank of gas.
 
 I should think it's the pontoons you'd need to worry about. ;o)

Yeah, and I would expect his arms to get awful tired from the
rowing...

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Re: (no subject)

2002-01-19 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Bruce Marshall managed to emit:
 On Friday 18 January 2002 22:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
  Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit:
   tsting
 
  wrkng
 
  K
 
 Say wht?

Doug and I are having breakfast at a Waffle House in Columbus, OH
later this morning. I'm passing through on my way to Pittsburgh.

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Re: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 19 msgs

2002-01-19 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 19, Lavinius Romio Petru managed to emit:

[comprehensive list expansions for MCSE elided'

 There :) 

ROFLMAO!

Show-off. ;-)

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Re: (no subject)

2002-01-19 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 19, David Aikema managed to emit:
 On January 18, 2002 07:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
  Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit:
   tsting
 
  wrkng
 
 I think you misspelled that.  It should be wrking.  You've gotta stay true 
 to form after all.

Consistency, perchance? I think it was Mencken that remarked a
foolishly held consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. ;-)
If it wasn't Mencken, it's the kind of remark he *would* have made if
he'd thought of it...

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Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Ken Moffat managed to emit:
 I'm confused. The partitioner thread left me scratching my head. 
 
 I have several ext2 partitions, and several questions. 
 Can I make these ext2's into ext3's using tune2fs? 

Yes.

 Can I go back and forth?

Yes.

 Can I change them using fstab settings?

No.

 Must I run fsck?

No. But it will.

 Is any of this dangerous?

No.

 Is there a step for this?

No.

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Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit:
 Is this on your Slackware box?  

Yes. I built and installed GTK+ and GDK from source. They live under
/usr/local/mumble. As does Xscreensaver, I might add.

 I've attempted it on a RH7.x box and i get errors like these during
 'make':
 
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wno-format -std=c89
 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -c -I. -I. -I./../utils -I..  -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2
 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
 -I/usr/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/lib/gnome-libs/include
 -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -I/usr/local/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
 -DDEFAULT_PATH_PREFIX='/usr/local/lib/xscreensaver'
 -I./../utils/images -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
 -DDEFAULT_ICONDIR='/usr/share/pixmaps' \
   -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include \
   ./demo-Gtk.c
 In file included from /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdk.h:31,
  from /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk/gtk.h:31,
  from ./demo-Gtk.c:66:
 /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdktypes.h:33: glib.h: No such file or
 directory

[snip]

If you've got the right *-devel packages, then it should work. I
don't know off the top of my head why glib.h isn't there, because you
can't build GTK+ without it. Try running a --verify with rpm -q for 
the various GTK+ and GDK RPMs. That might shed some light on why
things are breaking.

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Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 18, dep managed to emit:
 On Friday 18 January 2002 05:32, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
 |  Can I change them using fstab settings?
 |
 | No.
 
 well, um, yes and no. going back to ext2 requires editing /etc/fstab, 
 does it not? and on some systems (i'm thinking suse 7.3 here), in 

Yes, you have to edit /etc/fstab, too. But, changing the FS from ext3
to ext2 is not accomplished simply by editing /etc/fstab, which is
how I understood the question.

 addition to getting the repaired mk_inittab script from suse, one 
 needs to set up fstab such that / is ext3, but additional partitions 
 may be set to auto. (in suse, for reasons not yet translated from 
 the german, setting / to auto boots it as ext2, while on subsequent 
 partitions if the setting is ext3, they're usually not mounted at 
 all, though you can do it by hand after the machine is booted. and if 
 that makes it seem that suse 7.3 is a fundamentally good distribution 
 cloaked in a cloud of configurational fog -- well, i have no argument 
 to the contrary.)

I'll leave it to others to fight this partiular religious war. I have
no opinion on SuSE.

[...]

Kurt
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Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit:
 Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips!


mother of all sue-fests indeed!

Looks like I'll be spending more money on Philips products in 
the future. :-P

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Re: mars_nwe

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Net Llama managed to emit:
 --- Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Is the the project dead?
 
 oook?

Is the [mars_nwe] project dead?

Don't know, but the technology is moribund.

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Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit:
 tsting

wrkng

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Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list

2002-01-17 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Pam R managed to emit:
 On Thursday 17 January 2002 2:51 am, burns wrote:
  On January 16, 2002 03:34 pm, Dallam Wych wrote:
  Knowing btinternet as I do, I can almost
   assure you that the trouble is on their end not yours. Their service
   seems to vary depending on what region of the country that you live
   in.
  ...And as I recall from having lived in Herts, what day of the week it was.
 No, it's the phase of the moon that is critical.

No, no, no. You must hold your mouth properly. [sigh] How many times
do I have to tell people this!

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Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-17 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit:
 Anyone successfully built Xscreensaver-4.00 from source?
 I'm running into annoying gtk errors when compiling.  I've never had
 problems building previous versions.

It went okay here. Whassa matter?

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Re: Partitioner

2002-01-17 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Keith Antoine managed to emit:
 On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:32,Kurt Wall scribed:
 
  Actually, you can use tune2fs to disable journaling on the filesystem
  in question, turning ext3 back into ext2.
 
  Kurt
 
 I looked at man tune2fs and it does not say anything there. So if so what is 
 the command.

Oops. debugfs is the proper command. Run debugfs on the FS in
question, do feature -feature_to_remove, then write and exit.

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Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-17 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit:

[...]

 Ugh.  I've had [gtk|glib]-devel-1.2.10 installed for months, yet i don't
 have glib.h installed.  I've also got gnome-devel* installed.  This
 looks to be leading down a dependency path of hell.
 Could I build against lesstif instead?  Hrmmm...something like:
 ./configure --with-lesstif=?

Yes. ./configure --help shows near the bottom the correct invocation
to build against motif/lesstif rather than GTK.

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Re: Partitioner

2002-01-16 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 16, Keith Antoine managed to emit:
 On Wednesday 16 January 2002 13:24, Tim Wunder Sarpend his Quill and:
 
   However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions that
   are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot work with
   ext3 partitions.
 
  But isn't ext3 just ext2 with journaling? Can't you make the partition ext2
  without destroying the data? Then, resize the partition as ext2 and the
  rebuild the journal and make it an ext3 partition?
 
  Just asking...
 
  Tim
 
 Does not work that way mate...In Suse you either have it as ext2 or 
 ext3. If its ext3 you cannot turn it back to ext2 without formatting AFAIK.

Actually, you can use tune2fs to disable journaling on the filesystem
in question, turning ext3 back into ext2.

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Re: Microsoft Support OT

2002-01-15 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 14, burns managed to emit:
 One of our accountants recently bought a special bundled deal from IBM.
  
 Included with the PC was a digital camera. 
 
 The PC came with XP pre-loaded. 
 
 There are no drivers available to allow the camea to work under XP.
 
 Go figgur. 
 
 PS: Is this a reflection on accountants, MS or IBM?

Yes.

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Re: Microsoft Support OT

2002-01-15 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 15, burns managed to emit:
 On January 15, 2002 08:54 am, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
 
   I have told them that MCSE stands for Must Consult with Someone Else,
 
 Mouse Certified System Engineer

Must Confer with Someone Experienced

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Re: Testing: Ignore

2002-01-12 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Joel Hammer managed to emit:
 Please ignore. This is only a test. If this had been a real post this would
 be filled with misinformation.

Consider yourself ignored. ;-)

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OTRe: Testing: Ignore

2002-01-12 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Bruce Marshall managed to emit:
 On Saturday 12 January 2002 12:28 pm, Joel Hammer wrote:
  This is still a test.
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:31:43AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
   Please ignore. This is only a test. If this had been a real post this
   would be filled with misinformation.
  
   Joel
 
 Yes, but how can it be an official test without the obligatory humor 
 attached... :o)

True. We *do* have certain standards on this list, after all.

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Re: skyblade homeip????

2002-01-12 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 12, edj managed to emit:
 Anybody able to get to skyblade.homeip.net lately?  It's supposed to 
 have the xine rpms.

Can't ping it, but it does resolve:

$ ping -c 4 skyblade.homeip.net
PING skyblade.homeip.net (213.220.180.63): 56 octets data

--- skyblade.homeip.net ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

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Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE

2002-01-11 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Keith Antoine managed to emit:
 
 Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used noramlly.
 Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. grin

Yes Sir, Mr. Antoine, Sir.

[snippage]

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Re: another web server - xitami

2002-01-11 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 11, Chang managed to emit:
 
 http://www.xitami.com
 is it as good as apache? 

Beats me. They don't make source code available for Linux...

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Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?

2002-01-10 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 10, Dave Anselmi managed to emit:
 Kurt Wall wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  glibc -- particularly, the resolver library and the NSS (Name Service
  Switch) facilities. Specifically, the file resolv/resolv.h defines
  the macro _PATH_RESCONF:
 
  #define _PATH_RESCONF   /etc/resolv.conf
 
 Here's a question that came up in our study group.  Do name lookups (name to
 IP mappings) get cached on a client machine (one without a nameserver)?  Arp
 lookups (MAC to IP mappings) do, but what about DNS?

I suppose this is an implementation detail, but RFC1035 suggests that
resolver libraries should cache all data:


7.4. Using the cache

In general, we expect a resolver to cache all data which it receives
in
responses since it may be useful in answering future client requests.
However, there are several types of data which should not be cached:

   - When several RRs of the same type are available for a
 particular owner name, the resolver should either cache them
 all or none at all.  When a response is truncated, and a
 resolver doesn't know whether it has a complete
 set, it should not cache a possibly partial set of RRs.

   - Cached data should never be used in preference to
 authoritative data, so if caching would cause this to happen
 the data should not be cached.

   - The results of an inverse query should not be cached.

   ...

In a similar vein, when a resolver has a set of RRs for some name in a
response, and wants to cache the RRs, it should check its cache for
already existing RRs.  Depending on the circumstances, either the data
in the response or the cache is preferred, but the two should never be
combined.  If the data in the response is from authoritative data in the
answer section, it is always preferred.

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Re: Where is /etc/resolv.conf defined?

2002-01-09 Thread Kurt Wall

Scribbling feverishly on January 09, Joel Hammer managed to emit:
 I would like to know how my linux box knows that /etc/resolv.conf is the
 place to look for dns servers. I have grepped through the linux sources,
 but could not find any file with resolv.conf in it.

glibc -- particularly, the resolver library and the NSS (Name Service
Switch) facilities. Specifically, the file resolv/resolv.h defines
the macro _PATH_RESCONF:

#define _PATH_RESCONF   /etc/resolv.conf

 I grepped /etc and found a few files. One is /etc/lst.cnf, which has
 all the various files defined, like so:
 
 FILE_ETC_HOSTS=/etc/hosts
 FILE_ETC_RESOLV_CONF=/etc/resolv.conf
 FILE_ETC_NETWORKS=/etc/networks
 FILE_ETC_EXPORTS=/etc/exports
 FILE_ETC_GATEWAYS=/etc/gateways
 FILE_ETC_HOST_CONF=/etc/host.conf
 FILE_ETC_INETD_CONF=/etc/inetd.conf
 FILE_ETC_RC_INET1=$DIR_INIT_CONF/rc.inet1
 FILE_ETC_RC_INET2=$DIR_INIT_CONF/rc.inet2  
 
 Is this file the basic source file that defines where all these basic
 files should be? Which programs actually use this file, lst.cnf?

No. lst.cnf is the configuration file that used to be used by
Caldera's lisa tool. It may still be used by some of Caldera's newer
configuration and installation tools, but I no longer track Caldera,
so I can't be certain.

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Re: government skill form

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:05, Chang wrote:
 
  AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :)
 
 It is a transmigration of AIX (which is not, incidentally an exclusive IBM 
 'thing') into the Linux view of the world.

[...]

Indeed.  AIX5L is IBM's version of Monterrey, a joint project of
IBM, SCO (and others) for developing a version of Unix to run on the
IA64 processor from Intel.

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Re: re snapshotsot

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Mike Andrew enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:03, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 
  a compliment from Mikey. I think I'll print this! ;)
 
 
 Okay, Okay, *everyone* makes a slipup some times. Hell, I am part human.

Are you still wearing your KurtWerks (tm) Hat?

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

[Reply-To: trimmed]

On January 07, Ron Heron enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 Also, take a look at the Matrox site.  They actually provide software! 
 The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and
 muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86
 server.  I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons.

My nVidia rocks and has Linux drivers provided by nVidia.

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Re: question for security gurus

2002-01-07 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 07, Douglas J Hunley enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 If I was to start some side consulting as a Network Security Analyzer, what 
 tools/steps/methodologies would everyone recommend? Opensource would be best, 
 but I'm open to anything. I've made some recommendations to my firm (who 
 wants to go down this path) but I thought I'd get some more info from those 
 in the know.
 
 Basically, they want to be able to approach company XYZ, and sell them a 
 Security Assesment service. What machines are exposed to Internet, what 
 holes they have, what services are available to whom on the Internet. Can we 
 DoS you, DNS poisoning, zone xfers, known holes, etc..

I would start with nmap, then proceed to more aggressive probes such
as Saint or Satan. In the process, consider password guessing
programs, packet sniffers, and some of the common root kits.

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-06 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site?  I did and found a
  decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. 
 
 Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI?

Makers of video cards.

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Re: Sigfiles

2002-01-06 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 06, Declan Moriarty enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 
 
 printk(CPU[|d]: Sending penguins to jail...,smp_processor_id());
  [... 20 lines ...]
 printk(CPU[|d]: Giving pardon to imprisoned penguins\n, smp_processor_id());
         2.4.8 arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c
 panic(IRQ, you lose...);
  2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel/indy_int.c
 
 Doug:
  Are these quotes from REAL source code in use somewhere?

Yes they are.

  What gives anyone the interest to dig them out?

Oh, I don't know. Perhaps the same interest that motivates others to
collect coins or play with model railroads?

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Re: I'm impressed with ATI!

2002-01-06 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 06, Hemo enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 
 Odd, I've used the All-InWonder and now the AGP All-In_Wonder 128 PRO
 under both linux and windows and have been very pleased with it's
 performance as a TV tuner in both enviros.

Indeed. I had an Xpert@Play 98 with 8Mb VRAM that worked like a
charm. YMMV, I suppose.

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Re: government skill form

2002-01-05 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 05, Chang enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 It also got HPUX. BUt I didn't see Sun.
 
 AIX5L is really Linux??? you aren't kidding? :)

Nope, he isn't kidding. That's what the L is for.

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otRe: Internet Server Sanctions

2002-01-05 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 04, Ronnie Gauthier enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 The point I was making is that even if(when) you get you domain name 
 transfered, if the original hosting entity does not remove you from their dns 
 table no one accessing the net from them(their network) will be able to 
 access your new host. And yes, a user can use just about any dns server, but 
 dont expect the average user to do that, just expect them to say your site is 
 broke.
 
 you need to:
 
 1. get a new host...this is easy
 2. get the registar to change records to point to the new host...
 your new host will be the most help here
 3. get the old host to delete your dns entryyou might need a guy in a 
 funny wig

I'd love to see some of my favorite American barristers dolled up
that way...

[...]

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Re: ssh plus PATH

2002-01-05 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 04, Dave Anselmi enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 Tim Wunder wrote:
 
  Are you looking for the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable?
  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=path to libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 
 The linux loader, ld, keeps its own list of library paths so this tends not to be

In /etc/ld.so.conf, correct.

 necessary.  But that means you have to run ldconfig after installing any new
 libraries (which any well behaved package manager should handle for you).

Correct.

quibble
However, LD_LIBRARY_PATH becomes very handy for running apps when you
don't have root access (for ldconfig, for example) or for using
libraries not installed in locations about which ld.so knows.
/quibble

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Re: PATH

2002-01-05 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 04, Keith Antoine enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 On Friday 04 January 2002 07:39 am, Net Llama observed:
 
  The basic formatting (whether in .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, or
  just on the command line) is:
  export PATH=$PATH;/path/to/more/paths;/another/one
 
 Thats fine, thanks; but I seem to remember something else too. That if I used 
 to edit the paths in somewhere' it did not remember it on reboot. I had to 
 do it differently for it to be permenant. So I am guessing the last statement 
 is the one to use??

Dropping such a statement in to the startup configuration files would
make it permanent. But, I confess I'm not following you here.

 Whilst I am here, something else also, in Mandrake 8.1 you can setup easily 
 through 'control center' a shared access to the internet. However it also is 
 not permenant insofar as on reboot I have to go and do a 'reconfigure'. Does 
 anyone know of a workround for this, please.

Not I. 

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Re: receiving my own mail using sendmail

2002-01-05 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 06, Chang enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 This is such an old question. But I guess I could really learn
 something.
 I was trying to send my sendmail a email messages from my yahoo account.
 And I got the usual newbie error: 
 
 553 5.3.5 localhost.myname.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX
 problem?)
 
 what did I miss? I got no 553 if I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather
 than [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I misread some docs?
 
 My private domain is myname.org.
 I am using myname.homeip.net as the dynamic DNS name.
 
 /var/named/pz/myname.org:
 # snipped
 $ORIGIN myname.org.
   10  IN  MX  localhost
   20  IN  MX  localhost
 localhost IN  A   127.0.0.1
 #snipped
 
 /etc/mail/mailertable:
 
 homeip.netsmtp:[localhost]
 homeip.net.   smtp:[localhost]
 
 /etc/mail/local-host-names:
 myname.org

This is a FAQ specifically dealth with in the sendmail FAQ at
http://www.sendmail.org/.

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Re: IT jobs Florida

2002-01-03 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 03, Randy enlightened our ignorance thusly:

[...]

 The 70's were hell on brain cells, I think, it's all just a blur. The 
 normal conversation went something like what are these I don't know 
 just take a couple:).

I think I remember that... I certainly recall taking more than just
two of anything that came by. If one was good, then two was better,
and twenty was perfect. ;-) That any brain cells survived is fscking
amazing.

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Re: Hi there

2002-01-03 Thread Kurt Wall

On January 03, Bill Parker enlightened our ignorance thusly:
 Thought I would check this list out

Greetings. I like it here. They haven't kicked me off yet, anyway. ;-)
 
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New Steps 11/12/2001

2001-12-11 Thread Kurt Wall

Kernel - Patching the kernel with pre-[whatever] patches (Collins
Richey)

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Re: CDRW

2001-12-11 Thread Kurt Wall

Herbert H. DeLong wrote:
% Is there a CDRW or CDW on the market and usable in Linux for a
% 486DX2-66Mhz?
% Also where is it available? I use COL e2.4.

Here are some resources:

Linux Hardware Database: 
http://lhd.datapower.com/
Linux Hardware Compatiblity HOWTO:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/cdr.html
Linux CD Writing HOWTO
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.5

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Re: RS6000's

2001-12-11 Thread Kurt Wall

Mike Andrew wrote:
% Folks, I've been donated a few older RS6000's. Does someone know how to
% install Linux on them? Do I do a cross-compile, if so, how?

What? You mean you don't want to use than marvel of engineering,
AIX? 

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Re: Hard disk errors....

2001-12-10 Thread Kurt Wall

Federico Voges wrote:
% -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
% Hash: SHA1
% 
% Hi,
% 
% Yes, I'll do that as soon as I can. I prefer that it fails/dies in a
% test PC than on my server.
% 
% 
% BTW, is there any way I can check if it has bad sectors?? I know that
% fsck can check for and mark the bad sectors. But how can I see the bad
% sector list afterwards??

/sbin/badblocks /dev/hda -o /output/file

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Re: Xine Build - Segmentation faults

2001-12-10 Thread Kurt Wall

Declan Moriarty wrote:

[...]

% 
% The result is in this limited mode, that if you try to grab something off the 
% wrong page, you get a segmentation fault. But linux requires a 386+ because 
% it never wants to use this stupid way of going on in the first place (GOOD 
% WORK, LINUS!). When you see Segmentation Fault, that cpu is in real mode, 
% the application is has gone off the rails and switched the cpu to real mode 
% which I don't think linux ever uses. So there's either a dud compiler, dud 
% support files, dud disk, dud rpm, or dud something. Time for the M$ solution 
% (delete  reinstall).  Lastly, don't take all of this as gospel; I'm an 
% electronic hardware type, with no authority on software issues. 

Segmentation faults occur when there is an illegal memory access of
any type. In software, it most often occurs when when referencing a
undefined pointer or accessing unallocated memory (outside of an
array, for example). In Linux, applications cannot drop the CPU
into real mode -- the kernel controls this. Moreover, the kernel
*does* use real mode, but only at boot time, and it jumpts to
protected mode fairly early. 

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Re: EXT3 on laptops...

2001-12-09 Thread Kurt Wall

Bruce Marshall wrote:

[...]

% To tape?   Question is, what happens when  you restore  (perhaps from a 
% backup system) and then boot the ext3 root.   I suppose it all works fine.

Yes, it does. I've had no trouble booting with / on an ext3 FS.

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Re: /etc/whois.conf

2001-12-09 Thread Kurt Wall

Chang wrote:
% But how should I enter the whois server list?

Try entering just the bare server name (for example,
whois.networksolutions.com) and see what happens.

[snippage]

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Re: TCP protocol 2

2001-12-09 Thread Kurt Wall

Chang wrote:
% What is that site trying to do? I have never gone that IP.
% WOuld I lose a thing by turning off protocol 2 in /etc/protocols?

You might break IP multicasting.

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Re: TCP protocol 2

2001-12-09 Thread Kurt Wall

Chang wrote:
% what services use multicasting? I believe watching realmedia movie or
% listenging to midi/mp3 online wouldn't use it, right? ftp, http, ssh,
% nntp, ... typical internet services would not use it.

I'm no expert, but I'm not aware of any of the standard services that
require multicasting, although I believe that a NIC's promiscuous mode
uses the multicast address (224.0.0.1). In any event, it should be
simple to use iptables to drop, reject, or deny multicast packets.

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Re: Hard disk errors....

2001-12-09 Thread Kurt Wall

Federico Voges wrote:
% -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
% Hash: SHA1
% 
% Hi,
% 
% I'm getting these errors:
% 
% Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
% SeekComplete Error }
% Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
% UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=786516, sector=786452
% Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:04 (hda),
% sector 786452
% Dec 10 00:06:21 drakis kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,4)):
% read_block_bitmap: Cannot read block bitmap - block_group = 48,
% block_bitmap = 393226
% 
% Are these heardware or software related??

Hardware. Try turning off dma for /dev/hda, that is:

hdparm -d 0 /dev/hda

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Re: more KDE build problems

2001-12-07 Thread Kurt Wall

Net Llama wrote:

[...]

% XFCE is a beauty to behold, and a joy to build.  
% XFCE forever

Ayup.

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Re: /etc/whois.conf

2001-12-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Chang wrote:
% that's exactly what I was trying to find, too... :)
% the man said there was such a file. but no sample so far.
% I did search google.com. nothing

Hmm. Who's whois is it?

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OT I Knew It!

2001-12-06 Thread Kurt Wall

Todays' Slashdot poll: the level of education completed by /. readers.
With high school still in session, high school is in second place.
'nuff said.

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Re: /etc/whois.conf

2001-12-05 Thread Kurt Wall

Chang wrote:
% I couldn't find information on the syntax of this file.
% Could someone offer a link or an example?

Never heard of it. Have an example?

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Re: Suse 7.3 and SMTP on ISP

2001-12-05 Thread Kurt Wall

Susan Macchia wrote:
% I recently installed Suse 7.3 and find that I am unable to send mail out
% through my ISP's smtp.  I haven't changed my kmail or netscape prefs so I was
% wondering if anyone has seen this issue?  In netscape mail, the sendmailer just
% hangs trying to send the mail (4.78).  I can receive mail fine, so the
% connection is ok.  Any ideas?  My isp's smtp is smtp.ne.mediaone.net.

Do you have a smart host defined?  Near the top of sendmail.cf, you
should see some lines that resemble

# Smart relay host (may be null)
DS

Change the DS line to 

DSsmtp.ne.mediaone.net

Restart sendmail, and then try again.

Kurt
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2001/12/4 New SxS Submissions

2001-12-04 Thread Kurt Wall

Tips - Networking (TrryHend)

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Re: Workstation 3.1 on a Compaq 1278

2001-12-03 Thread Kurt Wall

Jerry McBride wrote:
% 
% That's it really, everything else works except the windows buttons. One of
% these
% days I'll have to find something todo with them.

Pry off the key caps and replace them with penguin buttons?

Kurt
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Re: [TID] Re: new install init

2001-12-03 Thread Kurt Wall

Keith Antoine wrote:

[...]

% No you did not, hopefully at my age I am thick skinned anyway. As I have been 
% in this list and the Caldera list for many years, I have been insulted and 
% roasted by some experts; Right Kurt ? g

[groan] I think I sold you your asbestos thong.

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Re: new feature!

2001-12-03 Thread Kurt Wall

Douglas J Hunley wrote:
% You can now 'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]' to see any new additions to the site.
% It will return the contents of the 'New' page. It's updated nightly.
% Enjoy!

Kewl!

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Re: IRQ Sharing

2001-12-01 Thread Kurt Wall

Net Llama wrote:
% 
% --- Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
%  couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
%  I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ
%  sharing.
% 
% I've never run into problems.  The (relatively) new feature in recent
% 2.4.x kernels for uniproc APIC allows for fairly reliable management of
% devices that share an IRQ.
% On 2 of my boxes (that happen to be virtually identical HW wise) I have
% three IRQs that are being shared (9, 10  11) with no noticable
% performance problems.

Thanks, Lonnie and others. I haven't seen any problems here, either.

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IRQ Sharing

2001-11-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Anyone here have experience with the kernel's IRQ sharing? I've got a
couple of PCI NICs in a box, both using IRQ 9. While it seems to work,
I was just wondering if anyone has run into problems with the IRQ
sharing.

Thanks,

Kurt
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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Jerry McBride wrote:
% 
% I just heard this on the car radio on the way home from work. Excite is
% allowed to
% disconnect COMCAST@HOME tonight at midnight...

No, the judge ruled that Excite@Home has the right to end its
contracts with *all* of its cable partners, not just Comcast. But,
saying they have a right to does not mean they will. Comcast is
putting the best face on it:

As of this afternoon, a Bankruptcy Court Judge ruled
that Excite@Home has the right to end its contracts
with its cable partners.  This does not necessarily mean 
that Excite@Home will turn off the service and, at this
time, we are not aware of any planned interruptions.  In
fact, we are continuing discussions with Excite and the 
other cable affiliates and creditors to do everything
possible to avoid an outage.
 
Kurt
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Re: Procmail

2001-11-30 Thread Kurt Wall

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
% I am unable to get procmail to work!  I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file
% to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok.  I have a .procmailrc
% file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs
% of what isn't happening!  ARG!  Help?  This is running on COLS3.1 and does include 
the added bonus of using fetchmail.  REPEAT:  This is NOT the actual target of the 
mail.  The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but 
fetchmail is supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the 
originator.

Did you defined PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH?

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Greg Turpin wrote:
% On Wednesday 28 November 2001  8:41 pm, you wrote:
%  It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without
%  interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every
%  month for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody.
%  This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system.
%  However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year
%  I have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if
%  @HOME goes away. I think that is a good investment.
%  Joel
% 
% 
% H...where did you find such a deal?  Is your mail stored on a remote
% server - or did you have to setup your own server?

Register your domain name with a domain name registrar. Mail that
can't be delivered to you right away gets queued for later delivery.
When your upstream provider goes away, you point DNS at a new provider
and, presto, your mail gets delivered.

Kurt
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Re: OTRe: Opera 6 beta available

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Susan Macchia wrote:
% Just to clarify a point, any program can create new windows *without* spawning
% a new process.  Spawning a process or thread is an implementation detail of an
% application that is independent of the user interface.

Yup. This point pokes at the event model vs. the thread model argument
for building responsive UIs, but now this thread is starting to drift
far afield...

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Re: new install init

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
% On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000
% Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate, it 
%  was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs. So I 
%  would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits.
%  
% 
% VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without hidden 
stuff.  It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what those zone files 
are made of!  g

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We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Collins Richey wrote:
% 
% Thanks, David
% 
% That is now very clear; will remember forever.  I presume this means,
% if you have the pristine base source, you only need the very latest
% -pren or -acn patch?
% 
% One more question.  When I apply (using one of several methods,
% depending on whether still compressed or not, location, etc.) patch
% -p0, the patch always fails.  I have to use patch -p1.  Could you
% explain this

So, cd up one more directory level (say, from /usr/src/linux to
/usr/src) before applying the patch.

The number following -p indicates the number of directories (prefixed
by /) patch should strip off the filenames embedded in the patch
file before applying the patch to the filesystem. So, given a patch
file containing a pathname foo/bar/baz/somefile.c: 

patch -p0 yields foo/bar/baz/somefile.c
patch -p1 yields bar/baz/somefile.c
patch -p2 yields baz/somefile.c

Keep in mind that patch works relative to the current directory. So,
in the first example, foo/bar/baz/somefile.c has to exist in
foo/bar/baz from your current directory, or the patch will fail.

Clear?

Kurt
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Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7

2001-11-28 Thread Kurt Wall

Declan Moriarty wrote:
% I'm in trouble - 'Can't mount root filesystem' - that sort of trouble.

[tale of woe mercifully deleted]

% Any other ideas? Somebody circulated some scripts to rescue this a while 
% back, but they're saved on the dud partition :-(

Try mke2fs -S on the dead partition. -S causes e2fs to write only the
superblock and group descriptors, leaving the data alone. Use the same
block size as the file system has. The man page entry says it all:

-S Write superblock and group descriptors only.   This
   is  useful  if  all  of  the  superblock and backup
   superblocks are corrupted, and a last-ditch  recov­
   ery  method is desired.  It causes mke2fs to reini­
   tialize the superblock and group descriptors,
   while not touching the inode table and the block and
   inode bitmaps.  The e2fsck program should be run
   immediately after this option is used, and there is
   no guarantee that any data will be salvageable.  It
   is critical to specify the correct filesystem
   blocksize when using this option, or there is no
   chance of recovery.

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Re: new install init

2001-11-28 Thread Kurt Wall

Keith Antoine wrote:
% I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the first 
% time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to kde and 
% in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its stosp and 
% says::
% init id x respawning too fast, disable for 5 min
% 
% That seems to be a video card problem but the /etc/X11/XF86Config looks ok to 
% me.
% 
% What am I missing or what do i look for otherwise its a re-install with no 
% guarantees it will work.

Boot to run level 3. To configure X, try running 

# X -configure

which will scribble a configuration file in the current directory.
Compare it to the existing configuration file to see if there are
major differences.

Have a look at the X log in /var/log/whatever to see what the
problem is.

% card is linux compatible Nvidia gforce with video out, M200 I think from 
% memory.

The driver for this card is nv.

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Re: html editor (was Opera 6 available)

2001-11-28 Thread Kurt Wall

Declan Moriarty wrote:
% 
% If you need a wysiwyg editor, you're like me - not an expert. There will be 
% Unix heads who chew matchsticks and do all this in emacs with a quiet 
% contempt for such editors. Get the book, or print the manual; Years ago I got 

We could always start an emacs versus vi war. ;-) Just to keep things
interesting around here.

Kurt
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Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7

2001-11-28 Thread Kurt Wall

Dave Anselmi wrote:

[...]

% You might try mke2fs -n before you go the -S route (and you need the block size
% for that too, anyway).

[nod]

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'nudder Test

2001-11-27 Thread Kurt Wall

Q: Whaddya get when you cross Apple and Microsoft?
A: Microsoft

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HTML Editors (WAS: Re: Opera 6 beta available)

2001-11-27 Thread Kurt Wall

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
% Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a good WYSIWYG HTML Editor? 

[long unwrapped line snipped]


There's a product called Quanta. Don't know anything about it, though.

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Re: Web Server Working?

2001-11-23 Thread Kurt Wall

Ian Marchak wrote:
 Quoting Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Can anyone out there hit my web site, http://www.kurwerks.com?
 
 I can resolve the IP (24.183.213.227), ping, but the web server doesn't appear 
 to be performing up to spec.

@home appears to be blocking inbound HTTP requests. Thanks to Ian,
Randy, Myles, Bruce, Vern, stayler, Andrew, Bill, Ales Kosir, Keith,
and Collins.

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Re: Web Server Working?

2001-11-23 Thread Kurt Wall

Ales Kosir wrote:
   [kosir@pingo tmp]$ telnet www.kurtwerks.com 80
   Trying 24.183.213.227...
   telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
  I don't allow telnet access. You could try SSH.
 
 But with telnet I requested TCP/IP access to port 80 which is
 undistinguishable from browser HTTP request... Seems you don't allow
 browsers to access your site?

Actually, *I* allow browswers to surf, but my ISP does not.

 By the way, ssh is able to reach your host. 

So I see...

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Re: Web Server Working?

2001-11-23 Thread Kurt Wall

Jim Conner wrote:
 You should be able to set apache to port 8080(or some such) and redirect port 
 80 to there.  I'm not sure how or if it will work.

If port 80 is blocked at the router, before it ever gets to my system,
port redirection won't work. I've already tried running the server on
port 8080, as it happens. Some /etc/service configurations use port
8080 for the webcache service, however.

Thanks again,

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Re: ext3 woes

2001-11-23 Thread Kurt Wall

Mike Andrew wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:54, Kurt Wall wrote:
  Collins Richey wrote:
   Thanks Kurt for the fstab sample.  That did the trick.
 
  Ayup.
 
  Kurt
 
 For info. Rh72. fstab looks similar to Kurt, specifically
 
 LABEL=/1/   ext3defaults1 1
 
 
 LABEL incidentally will not work for /devfs file systems. Dunno why, and I 
 can't find any documentation as to what LABEL actually does.

From man 5 fstab:

Instead of giving the device explicitly, one may  indicate
the  (ext2 or XFS) filesystem that is to be mounted by its
UUID or volume label (cf.   e2label(8)  or xfs_admin(8)),
writing  LABEL=label  or UUID=uuid, e.g., `LABEL=Boot'
or `UUID=3e6be9de-8139-11d1-9106-a43f08d823a6'.  This will
make  the  system  more robust: adding or removing a SCSI
disk changes the disk device name but not the  filesystem
volume label.

e2label prints and changes the label, as does tune2fs -L.

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Re: ext3 woes

2001-11-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Collins Richey wrote:

[...]

 Thanks Kurt for the fstab sample.  That did the trick.

Ayup.

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Happy Thanksgiving

2001-11-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Happy Thanksgiving to our American members.

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Re: ext3 query

2001-11-22 Thread Kurt Wall

Keith Antoine wrote:
 If I have a partition ext2 formatted will using tunefs to make it ext3 
 compromise that data ?

No, it shouldn't. I'd also stick with ordered-data mode.

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