Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-07 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 10:12 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: Swap is overrated. These days we have sufficient RAM to keep the OS You're suggesting that it's OK to let the system kill off critical processes?? That's a bit

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-06 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6 March 2012 11:38, Phill Coxon phi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Actually, if you've been following since Firefox 5, they've been progressively shrinking their memory footprint. I've seen clean installs running with only

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-06 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6 March 2012 12:36, Adrian Mageanu adrian.mage...@totalimex.com wrote: Yes, disk I/O mostly due to furious swap when available RAM is exceeded, and then there is the 100% of every available CPU, that's when keyboard and mouse get locked and the fans screm mad. Be careful you've not done the

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-06 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 March 2012 12:36, Adrian Mageanu adrian.mage...@totalimex.com wrote: Yes, disk I/O mostly due to furious swap when available RAM is exceeded, and then there is the 100% of every available CPU, that's when keyboard

[Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Phill Coxon
Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Maybe it's just the plugins I use but I'm getting really tired of it. Frequently my desktop is locking up completely with disk io so badly that the desktop and mouse starts locking up for 30-60 seconds at a time.

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Phill Coxon
On 06/03/12 11:47, yuri wrote: I use Chrome (not Chromium) and it just works. Unless your religion/ideology forbids it, I would use Chrome rather than Chromium for the proprietary bits that make some sites work better (I won't mention the 'F' word). Hmmm. That explains a few things. As a

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Phill Coxon
On 06/03/12 11:55, Adrian Mageanu wrote: Same here, but I think it's more about bad programming practices when building add-ons than the browser itself. When running without any add-ons Firefox is really speedy and stable. So you're getting the massive disk IO / everything locks up issue as

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Hadley Rich
On 06/03/12 12:05, Phill Coxon wrote: As a diehard Firefox fan I'm so ignorant about chromium / chrome that I didn't know there was a difference. There isn't much difference. I wish I could use Chrome but things like the Web Developer Toolbar seem to be a nightmare on Chrome - all options

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 11:38 +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Maybe it's just the plugins I use but I'm getting really tired of it. Frequently my desktop is locking up completely with disk io so badly that the

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Adrian Mageanu
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 12:08 +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: On 06/03/12 11:55, Adrian Mageanu wrote: Same here, but I think it's more about bad programming practices when building add-ons than the browser itself. When running without any add-ons Firefox is really speedy and stable. So you're

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Roger Searle
On 06/03/12 11:38, Phill Coxon wrote: Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Maybe it's just the plugins I use but I'm getting really tired of it. Frequently my desktop is locking up completely with disk io so badly that the desktop and mouse starts

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Phill Coxon
On 06/03/12 13:03, Helmut Walle wrote: In my experience it's almost always the Flashplayer plugin causing the symptoms described by you (but obviously others could cause trouble, too - YMMV etc.). Firefox itself appears to be fine. (and I only have 1 GiB RAM) I think you've nailed it. It

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Hadley Rich
On 06/03/12 12:09, Hadley Rich wrote: There isn't much difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differences_from_Google_Chrome -- Hadley Rich http://nice.net.nz ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nzwrote: On a slightly side note. Is LMDE really this cr@p?? I thought I should move on from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but I'm bitterly regretting it. Started with squeeze, but it wouldn't even recognise my nvidia card as such, nor

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Keith McGavin
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:09:51 +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: I think you've nailed it. It almost always happens when I've left a tab open with a flash video player or some other sort of flash. Firefox will spend too much time saving to browser cache for the go back to previous pages. If you add

Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...

2012-03-05 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 06 Mar 2012 14:09:51 NZDT +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: I think you've nailed it. It almost always happens when I've left a tab open with a flash video player or some other sort of flash. Grrr. Well it's your own fault for not installing the flashblock add-on. Together with