Hello list.
This is my first post, but I have been subscribed and enjoying this list for
quite sometime.
I work in online newspaper publishing. I'd like to gage some wise opinion from
anyone who's interested
on tabbed horizontal navigation systems for large publishing sites?
Reasons I ask
I like more NYTIMES... :) realy.
don't have the time to write a lot... but it is easyer to navigate thru that
navigation... visualy.
On 1/12/07, Ruairi Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello list.
This is my first post, but I have been subscribed and enjoying this list
for quite sometime.
I
Brothercake wrote:
I agree - and this is precisely what Opera Mobile does. It begins with
a handheld-media stylesheet and honours that if it's there. If not it
tries to honour the screen styles, applying increasingly aggresive
styles of its own as available space decreases and/or the layout
Barney Carroll
What would your mobile css change compared to the screen one?
Mostly, optimise for single column, linearised viewing. Possibly avoid very
heavy use of image replacement for larger elements.
P
Patrick H. Lauke
Web Editor / University of Salford
Hi!
What would be your reaction, if you'd see someone using fieldset for
something else than containing forms?
eg. something like...
fieldset
legendSome tite here/legend
div class=notification
pThis is some content./p
/div
/fieldset
cya!
Mihael
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
Hi!
What would be your reaction, if you'd see someone using fieldset for
something else than containing forms?
eg. something like...
fieldset
legendSome tite here/legend
div class=notification
pThis is some content./p
/div
/fieldset
cya!
Mihael
It's
Joining Barney, this is semantically wrong and should never be done.
If a visible outline or box to indicate a containing div is needed, and
further elements and content within it, it can be accomplished easily with
css. If you want an example, please let me know.
Kind regards,
Frank M. Palinkas
I have seen several sites that have done this, presumably for the visual
effect of having a border around each subsection of content; some browsers
will give that border round corners. Of course the same effect can be
achieved with the correct use of CSS but maybe they just thought this way is
Hi Steve,
Yep, I've seen it also. Pity the visually challenged user with a screen
reader trying to figure out what's going on.
Frank
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On 12 Jan 2007, at 11:30:01, Barney Carroll wrote:
This is what I believe the solution to be [http://www.sarmal.com/]
- javascript tests for viewport dimensions and serves appropriate
CSS. Try firing it up on a desktop and re-sizing your browser window.
Thoughts?
Try firing it up on a
I agree, sometimes I wish I could do something like that because sometimes
there is no alternative to writing some of the same rules repeatedly.
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
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On 1/12/07, Ruairi Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To cut to the chase what are peoples opinion of the following navigation
systems:
NYTIMES http://www.nytimes.com/pages/world/index.html
Here there is two steps to get to a section under US news.
INDY UK http://news.independent.co.uk
Here it
On 1/11/07 5:54 PM, Travis D. Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. I want the footer to appear at the bottom of the page not in the middle
when the content ends.
body: height:100%;
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ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 |
Hi Ruairi ,
well my advice is that you should add a few colors in there, you see
in NYT site that the down panel is in #F4F4F4 , but on your site it's
just plain white, and makes it a bit usual, so play with some color in
there.
Regards
Marko Mihelcic
founder of mcville.net
Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net) wrote:
Hi Ruairi ,
well my advice is that you should add a few colors in there, you see
in NYT site that the down panel is in #F4F4F4 , but on your site it's
just plain white, and makes it a bit usual, so play with some color
in
Hello !
I have a doubt regarding putting the logo in an H tag.
Wrapping the website logo in an H1, is a good practice? - always?
Thank you
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http://www.globo.com/
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On 1/12/07, Marcio Werneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello !
I have a doubt regarding putting the logo in an H tag.
Wrapping the website logo in an H1, is a good practice? - always?
I have done the following with multiple sites:
h1img src=logo alt=site title/h1
And have never seen any
Hi,
From a standards perspective I can't see how putting an image in a H1 tag is
a bad thing.
From an SEO perspective, doing this can help a lot with correct usage of the
alt tag. I've seen lots of sites use their H1 tags for the logo, and then
H2 for the actual heading of the page. I
h1img src=logo alt=site title/h1
And have never seen any issues with regards to SEO.
As for semantics, if you think about it, the title of the site is in
the title tag (you know, in the head), so having a duplicate of
that in the h1 tag really isn't that useful. If you can go with just
using a
h1img src=logo alt=site title/h1
Thinking back a couple years I am pretty sure that was a recommended
image replacement technique from somewhere. I do it all the time if the
university logo is on a page without a word mark. Since we use sifr for
the word mark (that _has_ to be eidetic neo
Return Receipt
Your [WSG] Logo and H1's
document:
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 1/12/07, Marcio Werneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello !
I have a doubt regarding putting the logo in an H tag.
Wrapping the website logo in an H1, is a good practice? - always?
I have done the following with multiple sites:
h1img src=logo alt=site title/h1
And
On 1/12/07, Mihael Zadravec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/12/07, Rob O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 1/12/07, Marcio Werneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello !
I have a doubt regarding putting the logo in an H tag.
Wrapping the website logo in an H1,
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
you also need to point out with alt
text that the image graphic is Somecompanyname logo...
Not necessarily. The alt can just be Company name. And if the logo has
a strapline Company name - strapline.
The fact that it's a logo is irrelevant. Alt reflects the meaning
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
logo is just logo, and has relevance only for sighted users.
I have been away from this list for a while now... When did it stop being a
web standards forum and become instead a web opinion forum?
Mihael, what supporting evidence do you have for this claim? While a
On 1/12/07, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
you also need to point out with alt
text that the image graphic is Somecompanyname logo...
Not necessarily. The alt can just be Company name. And if the logo has
a strapline Company name - strapline.
The fact
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
but we
all know that for the best screen reader users expirience, it is still
better that headeings contain text only...
But we are not designing sites solely to cater for screen reader users.
Using an image in markup, with correct alt, is perfectly fine and still
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
On 1/12/07, *Mihael Zadravec* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/12/07, *Rob O'Rourke* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 1/12/07, Marcio Werneck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No worries Mihael, i think you wanted to say if you have ever listened
to a screen reader.
When I say I put the logo in a header it's because It's my opinion that
it is an important part of the document and should be in the html as
with other images that are relevant to the document. A website
Quoth Rob O'Rourke at 01/13/07 08:25...
I've not managed to get a screen-reader working very well for testing so
far, does anyone know of one (preferably free) that provides a fairly
typical screen reader experience?
JAWS is a bit out of my price range.
You could try the Fangs[1] extension
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
Something like ... screan reader reads it dotdotdot... that is
anoying. This is the start of shorten news text and it ends with dotdotdot
It is something that is also a part usability issue, while it anoyes
while listening...
But the thing is: it may annoy you, but
On 1/12/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoth Rob O'Rourke at 01/13/07 08:25...
I've not managed to get a screen-reader working very well for testing so
far, does anyone know of one (preferably free) that provides a fairly
typical screen reader experience?
JAWS is a bit out of
On 1/12/07, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Something like ... screan reader reads it dotdotdot... that is
anoying. This is the start of shorten news text and it ends with
dotdotdot
It is something that is also a part usability issue, while it anoyes
while listening...
But the
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
The problem in my country is that we speak slovenian :) and I don't know of
any SR software that suportes that language, so it is pretty much
useless as
we pronounce word different from english or other supported languages.
Maybe
anyone knows about the SR software that
On 1/13/07, Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mihael Zadravec wrote:
The problem in my country is that we speak slovenian :) and I don't know
of
any SR software that suportes that language, so it is pretty much
useless as
we pronounce word different from english or other supported
Hi everyone,
While we are on the subject I remembered something I came across
ages ago and never took the time to get to know how to use it.
The site is http://www.webbie.org.uk
The page that explains its use is
http://www.webbie.org.uk/webbiefordesigners.htm and definitely worth
more
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