Re: [WSG] Using cursor:default; on the whole page but links
Mihael Zadravec skrev: that is rigt. I will stop doing that... But than again... Opera displays arrow even when cursor is positiond over the text... There are people who have problems to spot the cursor when it's the vertical bar. That would be a reason to use the arrow. /anders *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Using cursor:default; on the whole page but links
Patrick H. Lauke skrev: Quoting Anders Nawroth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are people who have problems to spot the cursor when it's the vertical bar. That would be a reason to use the arrow. Some people have very specific problems, but will have to learn how to adapt their user agent, or themselves, to cope with them. Breaking default functionality in browsers to aid these users is not a sustainable solution...and in an attempt to help these people, you're creating problems for an other section of users who actually rely on the browser's default behaviour. OK, I have now changed the text marker cursor on my own system, much easier to see it now :-) /anders *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Off-Topic: Javascript for Dummies
Joseph R. B. Taylor: my_field.focus; my_field.focus(); /AndersN *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] remove links to self the easy way
Terrence Wood skrev: Here's the easy fix: just remove the href attribute. An anchor element sans ANY attribute is perfectly acceptable HTML[3]. It inherits CSS as expected and doesn't appear in any link collection. I use this a lot. Still one problem: Sometimes it is confusing, not beeing able to tab into the menu item. (Like in a tree menu, where the current item is a folder in the menu.) In that case I set the href to javascript:; and use a class or id to style it. (actually, I do this with client-side scripting, and have no href attribute in the markup) /AndersN *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names
Charles Roper skrev: Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#q6 In CSS 2.1, identifiers (including element names, classes, and IDs in selectors) can contain only the characters [A-Za-z0-9] and ISO 10646 characters U+00A1 and higher, plus the hyphen (-) and the underscore (_); they cannot start with a digit, or a hyphen followed by a digit. /anders *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Pure CSS dropdown Menu, take II
Hello! Kepler Gelotte skrev: What I don't want to see is people packaging the menu to resell it or to include it in commercial web templates. You may want to use the GNU public license: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html or the even less restrictive GNU lesser public license: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html The LGPL would allow packaging and reselling of the menu. /Anders *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG CMS] Etomite
Hi! Anybody here tried Etomite CMS? http://www.etomite.org/ This is what they claim regadring web standards: As the Etomite site itself shows, Etomite Content Management System respects W3C standards. There is absolutely nothing in Etomite to prevent you from having a fully compliant website. Remember, this site itself is managed with Etomite and we are currently validated to XHTML 1.0 Strict standard. I tried the demo, and found it pretty easy to get started with. /AndersN ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [WSG] PNG support cross browser
Tony Crockford skrev: I understand the limitations of alpha transparency and 24 bit png, but is it safe to use 8bit png in place of gif files? You can get problems with colors not matching between PNG and HTML/CSS colors. It has to do with Gamma values, read more here: The Sad Story of PNG Gamma Correction http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ /AndersN *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] More than one style in one class atribute ?
Hi! Raven skrev: I create script whith some kind of WYSIWYG editor. It use BBCODE to set text block justification, color, etc. So, as a result, i have BBCODE like this: [J=right][C=red]text[/C][/J] and html code: div class='c_red'div class='j_right'text/div/div You'd better use an editor that handles classes, like TinyMCE: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ Then you can set up sematic classes and use them directly in the editor. /AndersN *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040126/154773.html Maybe this will work. /AndersN nishak skrev: Can u tell me how I can use JavaScript for this purpose??? -Original Message- *From:* listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Richard Conyard *Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2006 6:47 PM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* RE: [WSG] paramter passing in HTML As a simple answer no. Depending on what you want to do you can get access to passed parameters via JavaScript (that can sit in / be linked from), a plain old HTML page, otherwise you have to look at programming on the server side. Richard. *From:* listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *nishak *Sent:* 21 August 2006 14:09 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] paramter passing in HTML Hi All, I need to know whether it’s possible to pass parameter from plain HTML to other plain HTML. May be in format of var=value in URL or anything else?? Regards, Nisha Kumari. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] div in li
Tee G.Peng: Is it legal to place a div in .li? You'll find the answers to such questions here: http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/ http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/lists/li.html If you learn to read DTD:s the same information is in them. Here: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/dtds.html#a_dtd_XHTML-1.0-Strict you can find this line: !ELEMENT li %Flow; in the DTD, that states that %flow; goes inside li, and following the link from %flow; provides this information: !ENTITY % Flow (#PCDATA | %block; | form | %inline; | %misc;)* A tutorial on DTD writing/reading can be found here: http://www.w3schools.com/dtd/ /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] html validation: exactly what is it good for?
Shlomi Asaf: I have a question that crossed my mind, and i wish to get help from you guys: HTML Validation- what is it good for? It saves me a lot of time. While I keep my HTML/CSS validated I can *immediately* spot any new errors that I have introduced and fix them (with help from Firebug and HTML Tidy Firefox extensions). This way I spend much less time trying to find out why a page doesn't work as intended in one of the target browsers. /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG CMS] Re: [WSG] SEC: UNCLASSIFIED:-
Lachlan Hunt skrev: We have a basic framework that provides things like XML parsing, DOM Manipulation and a basic database interface, but it still needs a lot of work and we really need more competent PHP developers with relatively good knowledge of web standards. I'm a skilled Php developer with strong web standards knowledge. I have a working closed-source standards-compliant CMS that I'm rewriting a bit and moving to an OSS project: http://nornix.sourceforge.net/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/nornix There's no Php source uploaded for now, but you can find some of it inside the API documentation: http://nornix.sourceforge.net/api/ (pre-alpha!) In the downloads area and SVN repository you can find a CSS/JS treemenu that is part of Nornix CMS. I share almost all the goals of the Fidelis project. Strange :-) /AndersN * The CMS discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Character Set(s)
Hi! Dean Matthews skrev: Is there a standard …or emerging standard? I'd say you should have strong reasons to choose anything other than UTF-8. W3C has information about encodings on the web: http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/tutorial-char-enc/ /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
Patrick H. Lauke skrev: Joseph Bernhardt wrote: I run an apache server and utilize the .htaccess file to run a php script on a 404 error. This php script grabs the contents of the current uri to display information. (example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html) My question is, will this have any effect as far as usability? One question: why not use mod_rewrite instead? It's cleaner from a conceptual point of view, and won't send out an http status of 404. Using the error document functionality for this seems a bit of a perversion of its intended use... I thought this was the intended use of the ErrorDocument directive?! (what else could it be?) And sending a 404 for a page that doesn't exist is a good thing, in my view. I use mod_rewrite and Php for all handling of URIs, but send a 404 when a page is not found. You can send a normal web page with a 404 http status, just be careful to make the resulting HTML long enough, otherwise IE will display it's own error message instead. I can't remember the number of bytes right now ... /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 404 Redirectationite
OK, now I get it :-) /Anders Joseph Bernhardt skrev: Anders, Obviously you did not read the initial post :). That's alright. I am using a php script to display data depending on the current page. Example: www.joughslife.com/Rockport.html displays the page that is titled Rockport while www.joughslife.com/otherstuff.html would display the page titled otherstuff. So, these aren't supposed to be 404's. I was simply using this technique to display the pages. Anders Nawroth wrote: Lindsay Evans skrev: To stop the validator/robots/etc. seeing it as a 404 error, you need to send a 200 OK HTTP status code, you can do that in PHP using this line of code: header(HTTP/1.1 200 OK); Why would you want to see 404 pages in search results? If you need to validate the (X)HTML, you can upload it to the validator in this case. Shouldn't be any need to validate your error pages too often! /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Max/min width for IE
Ricci Angela skrev:
Following the late discussion about fluid/elastic layouts, I was wondered if
somebody out there has some feedback concerning the use of Microsoft's Dynamic
properties proprietary solution for fixing the lack of min/max-width support.
To use JScript inside CSS for IE works good, as long as scripting is
enabled.
I do max-width in ems this way:
HTML (ignored by other browsers):
!--[if lt IE 7]span id=em—/span![endif]--
CSS (served for IE only with conditional comments in the head section
of the HTML):
#wrapper
{
width: 740px;
width:expression(
(document.getElementById(em).offsetWidth*59
document.body.clientWidth) ? 59.5em : auto
);
}
The span should be inside the element you want to set max-with on (to
make the width of the em-dash correct).
Live example:
http://www.forum-antroposofi.info/
Not tested with IE in quirks mode.
/AndersN
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