[WSG] Re: Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those who use them and also refuse to use tissues)

2006-12-21 Thread sharron
Webmaster discussion pages led me to ask the questions. Folks just don't want to hear that their code and practices just might be the answer to why their sites aren't getting crawled. I've copied the responses, although I doubt that they will listen. Thanks Sharron

Re: [WSG] Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those who use them and also refuse to use tissues)

2006-12-21 Thread sharron
I do my best to adhere to standards simply because I can. Sharron - Original Message - From: Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those

Re: [WSG] Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those who use them and also refuse to use tissues)

2006-12-21 Thread sharron
The point is there are validation tools, information and help available for free everywhere. It doesn't mean one has to spend money to validate their pages. If one takes the time to build a site for themselves using whatever method, well then why not take a bit more time and use valid code?

Re: [WSG] Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those who use them and also refuse to use tissues)

2006-12-21 Thread sharron
. I also hope my typos and mistakes in the text of my posts are not too darn awful. I don't even see them until I read them back after posting. Barney, one other thing... I didn't use the word snot. lol I was a bit more tactful then that I hope. Sharron - Original Message

RE: [WSG] Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those who use them and also refuse to use tissues)

2006-12-21 Thread sharron
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[WSG] Tissue (valid code) vs shirt sleeves (wysiwyg editors and those who use them and also refuse to use tissues)

2006-12-20 Thread sharron
hmmm, sorry if off topic and uncouth. I've a rather simple question or two if you please. 1. On a scale of 1-10, how important is W3C validation? 2. How does one convince folks that it is important? 3. Is valid code important to SE? 4. Does it follow, that those who don't care about

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-18 Thread sharron
Thank you all for the help and your time. The site owner has instituted a list format for the menu. I'd like to know why the break tags as she was attempting to use them would not work correctly, when I use xhtml strict on my own site and don't have that issue. I was conviced her problem was

[WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread sharron
question I had asked. Sharron *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread sharron
tabindex, is that standard? ps Thanks for all the responses to the form question I had asked. Sharron *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread sharron
-height: 3px;margin-bottom: 2px;margin-top:2px;display:block; } [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: having a go trying to help a friend figure out why, in xhtml strict 1.0 the br / that are styled in the css style sheet as follows: */.sidemenu br {line-height: 3px;/* */./* *//* [trimmed] Sharron

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread sharron
http://www.webado.net/webado-net-tpl.php is transitional http://www.webado.net/webado-net-tpl-strict.php is strict the above are links to her two pages. These are on her server and do not reflect any of the playing I've done. lol I wonder too why the breaks and not a list for the menu? I will

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread sharron
http://www.designbyatfb.com/temp-images/xhtml/index3.html above is the best I can do, remember I am an amatuer. Netscape and Mozilla are ignoring a few br / tags in the html between the Webado shop and Policy links, have no idea why. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[WSG] Cynthia Reports Warnings 9.4 and 9.5 as relates to form

2006-11-09 Thread sharron
Please could someone tell me what I'm obviously missing? Below are WARNING results for Cynthia test as relates to the form shown at the bottom. Thanks for any help. Sharron HiSoftware® CynthiaSays™ - Web Content Accessibility Report 9.4Create a logical tab order through links, form

[WSG] set height versus height set to auto

2006-10-17 Thread sharron
about link titles, are they necessary for accessibility? I've not run through any accessibilty tests so far. Thanks Sharron *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] set height versus height set to auto

2006-10-17 Thread sharron
Samuel, You snuck out anresponse as I was trying to organize my thoughts and text. I've not had oppourtunity to digest your response yet. I started with a tabled page created when the images was sliced up and rendered into a html page via image ready. So in essense, I started building the

[WSG] Windows XP Narrator

2006-09-06 Thread sharron
If this is a bit off topic I apologize. I am creating a website for my grand daughter's use. http://www.designbyatfb.com/wisd/sw-one.html I am supposing that I consider this a accessibility issue for her as she can't yet read. Stretching a bit I know. I've 10 of 48 words (or pages

Re: [WSG] Browser stats

2006-08-01 Thread sharron
www.statcounter.com it's free! - Original Message - From: Paul Collins To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:00 AM Subject: [WSG] Browser stats Hi all, Just wondered if anyone has a good resource for Browser

[WSG] moved swf flash and video test page

2006-07-30 Thread sharron
I've moved and updated my Flash and Video W3C validation test page. If you want to update your bookmarks, please use this hyperlink: http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/flash-tests.html Thanks! Sharron **The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread sharron
kind, I won't use this bit of code. However I was curious as to your remark --all I can say is...wow *shakes head* Sharron - Original Message - From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Rounded

Re: [WSG] Tool for making screen shots from MSIE 7.0 Beta exists

2006-07-15 Thread sharron
I've downloaded and installed this IE 7 stand alone. However immediately get errors saving settings. None of the buttons work, Have to shut it down via control alt delete buttons. But my regular IE still works! Sharron - Original Message - From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED

[WSG] IE renderin js wrong

2006-07-14 Thread sharron
http://www.designbyatfb.com/temp-images/bris/index4.shtml can anyone offer a reason or a fix? There are 5 js clocks on sample page. The first clock is always about 10px or so lower then the rest. If you delete the first clock, then the next one in line is lower then the rest. It Only

Re: [WSG] IE renderin js wrong

2006-07-14 Thread sharron
@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] IE renderin js wrong Sharron,I have viewed this in Firefox 1.5.0.4 and in IE 6.0 and all the clocks are lined up as expected.Digby[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.designbyatfb.com/temp-images

[WSG] Tool for making screen shots from MSIE 7.0 Beta exists

2006-07-14 Thread sharron
Can anyone tell me if a tool for making screen shots from MSIE 7.0 Beta exists? I googled and found this, which lead me here. But it does not show a option for the IE 7 Beta screen shots. I don't want to download IE 7. thank you once again

Re: [WSG] Tool for making screen shots from MSIE 7.0 Beta exists

2006-07-14 Thread sharron
Thanks Mike. I've registered there for a free trial membership. But alas it won't let me log in. I've sent email. It might be resolved before the 24 hours has expired. The service looks promising. Sharron - Original Message - From: Mike at Green-Beast.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg

[WSG]

2006-07-13 Thread sharron
I've been using the very nice validation toolTV Validation, that wasmentioned here. Actually the FF extension tool. I've used the options to test for among others things, the W3C WAI Priority 1, 2, 3 (AAA). It shows 5 warnings all related tothe js on my page: I want to fix them to meet the

Re: [WSG]

2006-07-13 Thread sharron
With some advice from a friend I added this to all my js (noscriptdivimg src="" width="1" height="1" alt="spacer" //div/noscript) Is this acceptable to use a transparent image? Thanks - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent:

Re: [WSG] NOSCRIPT element

2006-07-13 Thread sharron
I forgot to say Thank you for your response! I did go attempt to read the http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread.php?thread=2891, it served only to confuse me further. Maybe I should give up the pursuit. Sharron - Original Message - From: Jens Brueckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] NOSCRIPT element

2006-07-13 Thread sharron
to read the http://www.webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread.php?thread=2891, it served only to confuse me further. Sharron, NOSCRIPT is intended as a sort of partner element to SCRIPT. It provides content for user agents (browsers, screen readers, search engines, etc.) that don't have Javascript

Re: [WSG] Meyer's CSS text popups not working in IE (PC)

2006-07-13 Thread sharron
I tested in- IE, FF, Opera, Netscape and Mozilla. You code is also in a li. I could not make heads nor tails of it, not that is any surprise. Good luck I will interested to see what the solution will be. Sharron - Original Message - From: Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Meyer's CSS text popups not working in IE (PC)

2006-07-13 Thread sharron
here is my css for the bottom set of pop up navigation links on my site. #blinks{height:0px;left:0px;position:absolute;top:299px;visibility:visible;width:180px} #blinks a{display:block;margin:0 0 0px;padding:5px 10px;text-align:left} #blinks a:hover{z-index:205} #blinks a:hover

Re: [WSG] Meyer's CSS text popups not working in IE (PC)

2006-07-12 Thread sharron
Title: Meyer's CSS text popups not working in IE (PC) I use those on my site! lol I love them too. Of course I adapted them to as I wanted them too. I have two nav's on the left. Top one has the pop ups but you don't see them, small transparent gifs used for accessibility reasons the lower

Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed

2006-07-10 Thread sharron
I don't know if this will help, but I added hyper links to my object vs embed test page. As per different browser they all work differently. http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html I don't know what [an error occurred while processing this directive] this is doing there! lol -

Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed

2006-07-10 Thread sharron
for making a mess of it. I tried to get the results listed under each example, so no one would have to guess. Sharron **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
. Let me go back and look again then I will contact off list if need be. Sharron - Original Message - From: David Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera I think you may have hit a bug

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
Actually, apparently I have two versions on Opera. 8.2 when I open it from the desk top, 7.20 if opened and used to preview html documents from within Topstyle pro. So my non working left nav is not working in version 7.2 I will have to check in 8. Sharron - Original Message

Re: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera

2006-06-29 Thread sharron
Subject: RE: [WSG] Left Nav gone in Opera Hi Sharron, I downloaded your page and in theCSS made a few changes. The changes are as follows; #content { POSITION: static; } After doing the change I tested it in Opera 9, IE 6, FF and Netscape 8.1 it works fine

Re: [WSG] WSG Button Link Forbidden report

2006-06-23 Thread sharron
No Today it is working quite well, must have been a bad day that day. Thanks for checking. Sharron - Original Message - From: Ben Bishop To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] WSG Button Link Forbidden report

[WSG] WSG Button Link Forbidden report

2006-06-21 Thread sharron
the link on the button, can you tell me if there is a problem? thanks Sharron ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Testing CSS: Map Pop

2006-06-20 Thread sharron
oh I even managed to figure out, if you can't get to the link in the pop up, try the map itself. So wonder just how far you need to go in writing instructions. - Original Message - From: Mike at Green-Beast.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20,

[WSG] RE: Website images question

2006-06-10 Thread sharron
Forgive me for my interference, howevercould not the text used in the alt and titletags, itself be the deciding factor whether or not it is applicable to the content? The instance of use is subjectiveto reason of use. If a icon (and these are)is used, it is most often used tocall

Re: [WSG] about css pop up windows

2006-05-16 Thread sharron
Very nice! although I would suggest you resize your hover portfolio samples to fit exactly inside the left display area. I would crop out all but the actual screenshot area of the portfolio example, and would make the sample fit into the height and width area there. I use a similar css hover

Re: [WSG] ping reference in a href= tag

2006-05-12 Thread sharron
Lol, let me clarify, I read comments and content here http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/darin/archives/009594.html Maybe I was a bit overly simplistic in saying speeding up links. I was overwhelmed by the comments and connotations and in my own way was trying to discern a common reasoning for

Re: [WSG] Trubuchet MS font not showing in IE

2006-04-30 Thread sharron
Thanks, that fixed it! hooray. You guys are just the right amount of brilliant! :) Sharron - Original Message - From: Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Trubuchet MS font not showing in IE From

Re: [WSG] Contrast issue

2006-04-27 Thread sharron
I am looking at in IE 6. I have turned off images, they disappear for a moment and I see white text on black. Then all of sudden the images are back and so is the orange. When I hover over them the only thing that I see that changes is the underlined on the links. However if I use the tab key

Re: [WSG] Pixel to Em conversion.

2006-04-26 Thread sharron
I am another that can't get a "real" internet connection. Although my modem is 56k, I never ever get online at more then 26.4. We live in the central area of Texas in the USA, rural but only 5 miles out of town and just a tad too far from the DSL loop or so we have been told. We also don't

Re: [WSG] Which Element to Use for Site Id / Site Title

2006-04-03 Thread sharron
Sorry for what for some may be a silly question, but may I please ask, dl, dt and dd and their closing tags, what are they? - Original Message - From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Which

Re: [WSG] Which Element to Use for Site Id / Site Title

2006-04-03 Thread sharron
I certainly did read the entire thread, thus my question. I was stumped as to basis of the initial question. The more I read the less I understood. As for asking silly questions, I would assume that I am not the only person absolutely in wonder when reading the list mailings. How can so many

Re: [WSG] IE 6.0.2 Menu Issue

2006-03-30 Thread sharron
order now game hosting voice hosting web hosting mailing list I looked vie IE 6.02 and all the pages shown above the left navigation sits too far right. It might be that when you are navigating from a page that lines up all the way left, to a link that the left navigation is too far right,