Re: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread Barney Carroll
I suppose server-side makes the most sense, since the page view isn't required to be dynamic per se. Very neat idea. Thierry Koblentz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good reason for doing this with JavaScript rather than doing it server side? Do you know of a SS solution to do

RE: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread michael.brockington
Thierry, I don't know of an existing solution, but where static pages are concerned, anything that can be done with JS can be done with PERL, PHP, JSP or whatever. In this case, I am in two minds as to whether this counts as 'progressive enhancement' or not. If it is, then JS is acceptable (not

RE: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread Kepler Gelotte
I don't know of an existing solution, but where static pages are concerned, anything that can be done with JS can be done with PERL, PHP, JSP or whatever. I tend to disagree. I think trying to manipulate your HTML output by buffering it and processing it on the server side is overkill.

Re: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread Tim White
: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations I don't know of an existing solution, but where static pages are concerned, anything that can be done with JS can be done with PERL, PHP, JSP or whatever. I tend to disagree. I think trying to manipulate your HTML output by buffering it and processing

RE: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kepler Gelotte Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations I tend to disagree. I think trying to manipulate your HTML output

Re: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread Barney Carroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not about styling. Without the measures being discussed, the consensus is that it is all styling. How the abbreviation element is styled will, short of javascript, dictate how the abbreviation's full form will be made available.

RE: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread michael.brockington
I think it is a little early to be claiming consensus on this! Correct me if I am wrong, but without this fix, most users will never see the full form of the abbreviation. That seems like a little more than just styling to me. Mike -Original Message- From:

Re: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread Barney Carroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is a little early to be claiming consensus on this! Correct me if I am wrong, but without this fix, most users will never see the full form of the abbreviation. That seems like a little more than just styling to me. Mike I think this is a misunderstanding.

Re: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this counts as 'progressive enhancement' or not. If it is, then JS is acceptable (not necessarily best) solution. On the other hand, this solution has already been discussed in the context of final print output, and would seem beneficial to all users, regardless of

RE: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-07 Thread michael.brockington
Is there a good reason for doing this with JavaScript rather than doing it server side? Regards, Mike -Original Message- Subject: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations Demo: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/TJK_abbr_demo.asp Article:

Re: [WSG] Using JS to expand Abbreviations

2006-11-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good reason for doing this with JavaScript rather than doing it server side? Do you know of a SS solution to do this? I'd be glad to link to it from my article. IMHO, it's not a server-side vs. client-side thing, but a simple matter of what's available to