XML - do it because you need it, not because of the Buzz.
XML is cool for handeling complex (or varied) data and sharing
this info with others (but if CSV will do, then use that!).
I'd suggest it VERY much depends on why you want to use it,
what is the ASCII data ?
If it was worth putting the
From: Leo Lapworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
XML - do it because you need it, not because of the Buzz.
Never was one for following the hype - just trying to work out if it's the
right tool or not.
Part of the problem is probably that I've heard snippets of what XML can
do/is good for, and
On or about Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:01:33AM +0100, Robert Thompson typed:
CSV is an option - except that an awful lot of the data will need to be
escaped out before it goes into the file, and I would rather only have to do
when its rendered out to the browser.
DBD::CSV is your friend. Sits on
David Cantrell wrote:
It was disgustingly easy to write
Yeah, awful language this Perl. Makes things much too easy.
I hope our bosses never find out that things take a fraction of the time
they would with other languages :-)
Cheers,
Philip
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All opinions are
Roger Burton West wrote:
DBD::CSV is your friend.
I second that. DBD::CSV is yum. Also handles escaping of double quotes or
commas when inserting strings, etc.
Cheers,
Philip
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Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution,
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Roger Burton West wrote:
DBD::CSV is your friend.
I second that. DBD::CSV is yum. Also handles escaping of
double quotes or
commas when inserting strings, etc.
DBD:CSV seems to be popular and on reading the docs I can see why...
... did I
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:19:10AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Roger Burton West wrote:
DBD::CSV is your friend.
I second that. DBD::CSV is yum. Also handles escaping of double quotes or
commas when inserting strings, etc.
Of course, the plain ol' CSV modules handle all the appropriate
From: Leo Lapworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
XML - do it because you need it, not because of the Buzz.
Amen.
I'm also trying to future proof the system slightly - I think that by
having the data XML based it may make it easier to use in new and
wonderful ways in the future, without
CSV is an option - except that an awful lot of the data will need to be
escaped out before it goes into the file, and I would rather only have to do
when its rendered out to the browser.
Unfortunately I'm not allowed to make use of the database - it is a
requirement that this particular
Sounds like you need DBD::CSV.
Note to self... read all replies in a thread to make sure you don't
provide redundant information.
From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:25 AM
Sorry to go off topic...
I was wondering what the pro's and con's are of using XML to structure
ASCII
based data files.
What are peoples experience of using XML - particularly where you may have
to trawl
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:44:50AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
At 10:01 14/06/01 +0100, you wrote:
The data from these files will primarily be diplayed within an HTML page.
A
perceived advantage of XML here (for someone who has barely scratched the
surface of what XML can do), is the
If I'm trying to avoid Amazon for some technical books, what sites are
currently suggested?
Richard
I like this lot.
http://www.alphabetstreet.infront.co.uk/computing/publishers/oreilly.jhtml
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Robert
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 June 2001 12:23
Subject: Re: Online Bookshops
Richard Clyne wrote:
If I'm trying to avoid Amazon
I think we need a FAQ, I'm sure this has come up a few times.
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Clyne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 June 2001 11:33
Subject: Online Bookshops
If I'm trying to avoid Amazon for some technical books, what sites are
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 02:42:30PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
Richard wrote:
If I'm trying to avoid Amazon for some technical books, what sites are
currently suggested?
I think we need a FAQ, I'm sure this has come up a few times.
You
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
Go me! Tie::Hash::Transactional is written. It implements a hash which
you can checkpoint and rollback.
Thats weird, I just wrote something that did that very thing the other day
.. the transactional bit was just a side affect of having a tied
Well, as has been muttered about I am redoing the London.pm.org website.
And yes it DOES need a faq, I have the start of one, but would very much
love someone else to finish it off.
So, If anyone is up for it give me a yell and I'll email you the XML
that needs populating.
The website
Leo Lapworth sent the following bits through the ether:
And yes it DOES need a faq, I have the start of one, but would very much
love someone else to finish it off.
google++ # london.pm faq
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02436.html
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Leon
Redvers Davies wrote:
The Bilderberg Garden Hotel. lastmin.com do bookings for it.
Wow. Either you have more money than you know what to do with or your
company allows for higher expenses than mine. www.lastminute.com says GBP
82.90 - GBP 126.46; my company guidelines say (for German hotels)
* at 14/06 14:55 +0100 Leo Lapworth said:
Well, as has been muttered about I am redoing the London.pm.org website.
And yes it DOES need a faq, I have the start of one, but would very much
love someone else to finish it off.
So, If anyone is up for it give me a yell and I'll email you the
For those not on the yapc europe mailing list.
(you will need to subscribe to register interest in this though).
Neil.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:34:10 +0200
From: Jouke Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether:
For those not on the yapc europe mailing list.
(you will need to subscribe to register interest in this though).
Hmmm, it may be an idea to get something closer to the center of
town. Quick, someone organise.
Leon
--
Leon
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:05:53PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
For those not on the yapc europe mailing list.
(you will need to subscribe to register interest in this though).
Neil.
For anyone interested, here's a URL on the hotel (it's long I'm afraid).
this is the final test
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* Dominic Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:16:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
yet another test
I'm sorry, but you appear to have failed again. This message is quite
visible! :-(
well i had managed to screw up mail for 2 days, i personally
believe it was
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:28:45PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
a) I can blag it as a training course with my boss
b) I can afford to take time off work
c) She can find a babysitter
d) We can afford to take her too
$answer = ( $a ||
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
I did ask, but she doesn't fancy it. So I get to party :)
Barbie
here was a fun unbless function i wrote in response to something
on spug's mailing list (it never made here or there, due to mailing
difficulties at the time)
sub curse ($) {
my $thing = shift;
if (!(ref($thing))) {
die Can't curse non-reference value;
}
if ($thing =~
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
Mine will have emmigrated by then, so no. If anything goes wrong, then
yes.
Beware, it's in Flash (or Shockwave)
http://www.electrotank.com/lab/minigolf.html
Hole 17 is a bugger
c.
--
every day, computers are making people easier to use
http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com
i'm not a great fan of people sending URLs randomly, but this has
to be an exception, remember the joy of your childhood years reading
the guiness book of records (and watching record breakers as well,
with Roy, Norris and later on Cheryl). well you can relive that joy
at
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
Some of us can't afford YAPC. And some of us don't have partners :-(
L.
Life is pain, Highness! Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
Some of us can't afford YAPC.
Well at least its not due to the entry fee and if its a matter
of accomodation cost, ask on the list for somewhere to crash.
And some of us don't have
Well at least its not due to the entry fee and if its a matter
of accomodation cost, ask on the list for somewhere to crash.
Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
Thats why you should come to YAPC::Europe and meet the monger
of your dreams ;-)
Indeed... see them in
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
It had been my intention for the whole Gellyfish Clan to venture forth to
Amsterdam but it looks like I will be the only representative now as the
leader has decided that she has been to
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
Redvers Davies wrote:
The Bilderberg Garden Hotel. lastmin.com do bookings for it.
Wow. Either you have more money than you know what to do with or your
company allows for higher expenses than mine. www.lastminute.com says GBP
82.90 - GBP 126.46;
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
this is the final test
No wonder you're number 1 in the posting league.
L.
I've got a touch of the singles. Shingles? No, singles.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Some of us can't afford YAPC.
Well at least its not due to the entry fee and if its a matter
of accomodation cost, ask on the list for somewhere to crash.
Ah, well. Have made prior arrangemnets now
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It had been my intention for the whole Gellyfish Clan to venture forth to
Amsterdam but it looks like I will be the only representative now as the
leader has decided that she has been to Amsterdam too many times
previously to justify the cost and
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:46:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
Some of us can't afford YAPC. And some of us don't have partners :-(
maybe we could have Yet Another Beer :: London at the same time then.
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David Cantrell |
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
Some of us can't afford YAPC. And some of us don't have partners :-(
maybe we could have Yet Another Beer :: London at the same time then.
Sounds eminently doable ;-)
L.
I have no sig
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:45:32PM +0100, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It had been my intention for the whole Gellyfish Clan to venture forth to
Amsterdam but it looks like I will be the only representative now as the
leader has
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