Re: [HELP] Traceroute

2001-04-06 Thread Alex Page
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:37:34PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > You probably want: > TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols, Gah, I've got a copy of that on my shelf. Really should get round to reading it at some point... Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and y

Torvalds not impressed with OS X

2001-04-06 Thread Paul Makepeace
http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Sadly, lacking on details. Paul, who still likes it.

Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:44:59PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > You *used* a public toilet in nyc??? eek. I've slept in Central Park too. (I was so ill from sleeping with the 10th floor window open there wasn't much else I could do.) Paul

Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread David H. Adler
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:29:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: > > But what is it about NY toilets that only about three of them flushed > > properly during my entire visit? > > First time I went into a NY public toilet, er, bathro

Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: > But what is it about NY toilets that only about three of them flushed > properly during my entire visit? First time I went into a NY public toilet, er, bathroom, I thought "my god -- it's exactly like Duke Nukem" and looked arond fo

Re:

2001-04-06 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:34:03AM +0100, Natalie Ford wrote: > ...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :) http://www.thebat.net/ is good I hear. You can poke around on the server before doing a download which is a neat feature. Paul

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-06 Thread Barbie
From: "Dave Hodgkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Barbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Quite. I'm 35 and was given a good basic education at Primary school of the > > english language, together most of it's idyosyncrasies. I was lucky enough > > to go to a Grammar (when there were still such th

RE: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-06 Thread pmh
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:16:18 +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: > > I was at school from up to 1995 and grammer, hand writing and > > similar were only lightly touched upon. IT was another subject that we > > never actually did (other than read about spreadsheets leading to my > > adult hatred of Excel)

Re: Certing

2001-04-06 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, you wrote: > * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Robin is mistaken. We had a very serious discussion which covered a > > number of difficult topics. Greg was volunteered to take minutes, and > > will be posting a summary shortly. > > > > Err, yes exactly a

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Marty Pauley
On Fri Apr 6 07:12:33 2001, Andy Williams wrote: > > Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for > Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's probably lucky that he's wrong. His ISP, NTL, employ many professional Perl programmers to write Perl systems

Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread David H. Adler
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: > Hm. Looking over this you might not want to read it if you're eating or > anything. > > > I reserve judgement until I've had a NY pizza and a NY > > coffee. However, I expect neither to be up to the standards > > I expect :-) You

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread jduncan
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by > > many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of > > them are profess

Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:57:45AM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > > > Which is of course wrong. Russia makes the best firearms, Australia makes > > the best wine, and .us produces the best bloodthirsty maniacs. I believe > > they recently elected one as

RE: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Matthew Jones
> I certainly don't consider myself "professional", even though I > try to ply my trade in what I believe to be a "professional" manner. "I'm not a professional, I'm a gifted amateur." The source of that escapes for the moment. -- matt "'scuse me trooper, will you be needing any packets today

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by > > many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of > > them are profess

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by > many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of > them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the > majority. A professional is s

sheik your booty

2001-04-06 Thread Matthew Jones
> Elect is a harsh term here. The man was appointed, crowned if > you will. Not unlike youre queen, from what I can tell, though I've to > date never seen her described as a bumbling idiot. Maybe the BBC keeps > that quiet? Heh, have you never *seen* "our" royal family in action? It's not jus

Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > Which is of course wrong. Russia makes the best firearms, Australia makes > the best wine, and .us produces the best bloodthirsty maniacs. I believe > they recently elected one as their Fuhrer. Elect is a harsh term here. The man was appointed, crow

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread jduncan
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:12:33AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: > > Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for > Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 >

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Ian Brayshaw
Andy Williams wrote: >Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for >Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 > >Comments? Time to add chlorine to the gene pool.

Re:

2001-04-06 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:34:03AM +0100, Natalie Ford wrote: > At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: > >They should run, not walk, to sourceforge, and get mutt for Win32. > > I have tried www.sourceforge.net and i get a server / dns error. Without the www it works fine for me - sourceforge h

RE: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Andy Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06 April 2001 12:13 > Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for > Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/0 26-4687583-3140411 >

RE:

2001-04-06 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Natalie Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06 April 2001 11:55 > At 11:34 06/04/01, Natalie Ford wrote: > >At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: > > >They should run, not walk, to sourceforge, and get mutt for Win32. > > > >I have tried www.sourceforge.net and i get a server / dns error. > >

Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Andy Williams
Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 Comments? Andy ===

Re:

2001-04-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/04 11:34 +0100 Natalie Ford said: > At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: > > PC-Pine is suitable only for small children recovering from major surgery. > > ...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :) isn't that what he said? :) struan

Re:

2001-04-06 Thread Natalie Ford
At 11:34 06/04/01, Natalie Ford wrote: >At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: > >They should run, not walk, to sourceforge, and get mutt for Win32. > >I have tried www.sourceforge.net and i get a server / dns error. > >I have also tried mutt.sourceforge.net which resolves OK but does not >menti

Re:

2001-04-06 Thread Natalie Ford
At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: >They should run, not walk, to sourceforge, and get mutt for Win32. I have tried www.sourceforge.net and i get a server / dns error. I have also tried mutt.sourceforge.net which resolves OK but does not mention a win32 version. Any more pointers? I wan

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Merijn Broeren wrote: > # Else use lynx to view it as text > text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput Quick question for us non mutt users that may one day consider using it. Does this run throgh the shell? And what's %s in this? I'm kinda hoping it's not able to be '; rm -

RE: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: > > The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature. > > Oh $deity. Are we going to be barred from Vinopolis now? To clarify: We did actually pay for the wine IIRC, but strictly speaking we shouldn't have removed it from the r

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:37:54AM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: > On the risk of offending the person who gets really tired of the > w3m-is-better meme, I prefer w3m because I get send so many tables in > html, they show up real nice. I found a problem with w3m (which I admittedly didn't look at

Re: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread Neil Ford
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:00:17AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just > behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. > > The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature. > Not wishin

Re: [HELP] Quick question about Red Hat and gb keyboards

2001-04-06 Thread Leon Brocard
Merijn Broeren sent the following bits through the ether: > Anybody got an easy answer? One of the more annoying RH bugs. Just do: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace" in a relevant startup script (.bashrc will do). HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/

[HELP] Quick question about Red Hat and gb keyboards

2001-04-06 Thread Merijn Broeren
Hi, My experience with Red Hat is none existant, and I haven't installed a n desktop Linux system in ages, so turn to you lot to ask a quick question about something that isn't immediatley obvious to me. If I change in /etc/X11/XF86config the keyboard setting to 'gb' from 'us', the backspace an

Re: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/04 10:16 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: > From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 06 April 2001 10:00 > > > I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just > > behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. > > It _was_ a lot of fun.

Re: Certing

2001-04-06 Thread Leon Brocard
Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: > I seem to remember Leon looking over the plan and thinking it was > jolly good Yes. The plan of actually was remarkable in its shortness and sweetness and I agree with it whoheartedly. Leon -- Leon Brocard.

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Merijn Broeren
Quoting Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > This is great, thanks! Is it possible to get it to do this *only* when > the email is content-type: text/html; rather than displaying it instead > of the text/plain in a multipart/alternative? > Yeah, you set it up in .muttrc : auto_view text/html ap

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-06 Thread pmh
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:08:09 +0100 (BST), Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > Paul, whose uni got nicked in fscking cambridge. "Ooh, it's got a wheel! > > Not the usual two, but fuck it, let's steal it anyway!" > > Ah, but people so often have quick release

Re: CiP value =1.5?

2001-04-06 Thread Merijn Broeren
Quoting Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It's probably worrying if I can look at the above and think "That looks like > MJD's code". > Nah, the p;p;p;p;p is a dead give away. And the fnord ofcourse :-) -- Merijn Broeren| Nothing is more poignant in old age than the Software Geek | me

RE: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06 April 2001 10:00 > I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just > behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. It _was_ a lot of fun. Thanks everyone for coming. > The stolen wine by the thames at

Re: Certing

2001-04-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 05/04 21:37 + Robin Szemeti said: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, you wrote: > > * Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > * Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Will the Perl Cert discussion/brainstorming be taking part at todays meet > > > > or the technical one? > > > > todays > >

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:57:08PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users. How to get HTML viewed easily and > > automatically. I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's > > still better

the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread Greg McCarroll
I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. The stolen wine by the thames at 1am was a particularly nice feature. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

RE: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread Matthew Jones
Hm. Looking over this you might not want to read it if you're eating or anything. > I reserve judgement until I've had a NY pizza and a NY > coffee. However, I expect neither to be up to the standards > I expect :-) You have to beat Roma* to be acceptable. I've had a NY pizza and it was certa

Re: Certing

2001-04-06 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Robin is mistaken. We had a very serious discussion which covered a > number of difficult topics. Greg was volunteered to take minutes, and > will be posting a summary shortly. > Err, yes exactly as Dave says it. The minutes will take the form o