Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:05:25PM +, Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [Liz Castro's appalling Perl/CGI book] > I wrote a very scathing review of Castro's book on amazon.com yesterday. > In case it doesn't get published, here's the gist: > > For a technical book to be worth buying it n

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Nathan Torkington [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>Hey, if she's allowed to plug, so am I :-) The 2nd edition of "CGI *>Programming with Perl" (O'Reilly of course) is pretty bloody good. I *>was midway through writing a CGI class when I got a tech-review copy *>of the book, and it was what I was g

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>i think we get a slanted view on what a 'normal level of intelligence' *>is, because in general, we work with exceptional people. I spent the last I know at least 2 nobel laureates who wouldn't know jack about CGI or about selecting which book might b

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Nathan Torkington [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *>> Also L Steins Network Programming with Perl is a good book. I'm only a *>> chunk into it buts its a good read on its own and an even better one *>> if your not from a Unix background. *> *>Yup, it's a bloody impressive book. And it's an Addison-Wes

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, you wrote: > Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: > *> > *>no one ever said the buying public were intelligent ... > > Well, people rise to meet expectations too. There is precious little in > the way of good CGI books with a practical slant to them out there so out > of

Re: Bad Perl

2001-01-31 Thread Jon Nangle
> "Elaine" == Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Elaine> And speaking of bad books, who is this Martin Brown guy who has Elaine> a new book every month these days, certainly he must have a Elaine> ghostwriter. AFAIK he writes 'em all himself, forgoing sleep and suchl

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 07:41:54PM +, Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > > > Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: > > *> > > *>no one ever said the buying public were intelligent ... > > > > Well, people rise to meet expectations

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Nathan Torkington
Dean S Wilson writes: > >Hey, if she's allowed to plug, so am I :-) The 2nd edition of "CGI > >Programming with Perl" (O'Reilly of course) is pretty bloody good > > Duh, its an O'Reilly. ;) If only it was that automatic--we sometimes release stinkers (c.f. the *first* edition of the CGI book :-)

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: > *> > *>no one ever said the buying public were intelligent ... > > Well, people rise to meet expectations too. There is precious little in > the way of good CGI books with a practical slant to them out th

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:31:33PM -0700, Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Elaine -HFB- Ashton writes: > > On the plus side, Addison-Wesley has a new CGI Perl book coming out in > > early February that should be a major improvement in this particular > > genre. > > Hey, if she's all

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dean S Wilson
-Original Message- From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Hey, if she's allowed to plug, so am I :-) The 2nd edition of "CGI >Programming with Perl" (O'Reilly of course) is pretty bloody good Duh, its an O'Reilly. ;) Also L Steins Network Programming with Perl is a good book. I'm

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Nathan Torkington
Elaine -HFB- Ashton writes: > On the plus side, Addison-Wesley has a new CGI Perl book coming out in > early February that should be a major improvement in this particular > genre. Hey, if she's allowed to plug, so am I :-) The 2nd edition of "CGI Programming with Perl" (O'Reilly of course) is pr

Fwd: [briant@earthweb.com: RE: New Perl Journal]

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
A... er... 'friend' of mine emailed customer services at TPJ to find out what the official story was on its future. Here's the response I, er, he got. Dave... - Forwarded message from Brian Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Brian Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mike Brown'" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Every OS Sucks

2001-01-31 Thread Neil Ford
Check out the latest from Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie (the people who bought you the Internet Helpdesk sketch). http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/37/three_dead_trolls_in_a_bag.html?lang=eng Most entertaining. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.binky.ourshack.org

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>no one ever said the buying public were intelligent ... Well, people rise to meet expectations too. There is precious little in the way of good CGI books with a practical slant to them out there so out of the lot of them, this is probably one of the b

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Robert Shiels
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:32:21PM +, Struan Donald wrote: > > > > er... this unweldy thing would seem to be it: > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/4045/107-2581489-8245353 Looks like the 2nd edition of the camel book is smaller and more expensive than the 3rd. What a b

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, you wrote: > > It's at > > Crickey! That book by Ms Castro that's been slated everywhere is at > number 5!!! no one ever said the buying public were intelligent ... in fact it has been said (by some famoose newspaper

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:32:21PM +, Struan Donald wrote: > > er... this unweldy thing would seem to be it: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/4045/107-2581489-8245353 A handy hint for amazon URLs: you can knock off the long number on the end, and the thing will still work.

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:32:48AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > At Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:28:25 +, Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > > Here's an interesting page[1] > > > > Have a URL for that, guv? > > Bugger. > > It

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:28:25 +, Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > Here's an interesting page[1] > > Have a URL for that, guv? Bugger. It's at Dave...

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Struan Donald
* at 31/01 14:28 + Dominic Mitchell said: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > Here's an interesting page[1] > > Have a URL for that, guv? er... this unweldy thing would seem to be it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/4045/107-2581489-8245353 strua

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > Here's an interesting page[1] Have a URL for that, guv? -Dom

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > Here's an interesting page[1] it shows the top 100 best selling Perl > books at Amazon. Obviously I was most interesting in seeing where I url? Michael

Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
Here's an interesting page[1] it shows the top 100 best selling Perl books at Amazon. Obviously I was most interesting in seeing where I was in the chart (number 62, if you're interested), but if you look at the 76-100 pages, there are a _lot_ of new Perl books listed to be released in the next fe

Re: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:04:54PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > It's oh so quiet. > > > > After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. > > everyone is probably reading up on ruby in preparation for it > taking over the world Well, ther

Re: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:10:47 +, Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 11:50:45AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > It's oh so quiet. > > > > After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. > > I don't know, before it was fast as lightning. > > Which was a

Re: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Richard Clamp
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 11:50:45AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > It's oh so quiet. > > After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. I don't know, before it was fast as lightning. Which was a little bit frightening. -- Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Michael Stevens
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:04:54PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > It's oh so quiet. > > After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. > everyone is probably reading up on ruby in preparation for it > taking over the world Surely you mean py

Re: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > It's oh so quiet. > > After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. > everyone is probably reading up on ruby in preparation for it taking over the world -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

RE: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Matthew Jones
>It's oh so quiet. > >After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. OK, just in the interests of making traffic, then, here's a picture of me as a baby: http://website.lineone.net/~vineleaf/sands/gfx/mattjones.jpg You see, you have ot get your priorities right at an early age. -- matt

the list

2001-01-31 Thread Michael Stevens
It's oh so quiet. After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. Michael

Re: Meeting Reminder

2001-01-31 Thread Michael Stevens
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 11:18:24PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: > Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether: > > Conveniently close to Cynthia's Cyberbar. > No, please god, no! Can't we just try and forget this excuse for a > bar?[1] But the mirrors! Don't forget the mirrors!

Re: London Community News 30/01/00

2001-01-31 Thread Philip Newton
Dean S Wilson wrote: > GLLUG Hm, I wonder whether this acronym reflects what one of their meetings sounds like. Cheers, Philip