Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 05:51:59PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
> > on 25/4/01 5:25 pm, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > 
> > > If you read
> > > the small print they threaten to disconnect service if whois info isn't
> > > accurate. Pity you have to supply perfect info for spammers.
> > 
> > I think that's fair, like accepting mail to postmaster@, hostmaster@,
> > webmaster@ etc. It's not like email addresses are in short supply.
> 
> What I meant, it's a pity a legitimate 'Net facility is abused for
> the purposes of direct marketing rather than its original aim which
> is to get into contact with the domain owner for some technical,
> billing or administrative reason. By providing my name in whois I am
> not declaring my interest in $29.95 Religious PhDs...

it simple .. all spammers must die.

I have had much success with some simple techniques.
posting to newsgroups with a nospam@blah address and jsut 550'ing all that
for a start.
550'ing anything .kr .cn china.com
tracerouting the website rather than the mail account, complaining from
root@  to the host owner and the upstream 

'550 no such user' does eventually seem to get through to them that I
really dont want this crap.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 05:51:59PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
> on 25/4/01 5:25 pm, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> 
> > If you read
> > the small print they threaten to disconnect service if whois info isn't
> > accurate. Pity you have to supply perfect info for spammers.
> 
> I think that's fair, like accepting mail to postmaster@, hostmaster@,
> webmaster@ etc. It's not like email addresses are in short supply.

What I meant, it's a pity a legitimate 'Net facility is abused for
the purposes of direct marketing rather than its original aim which
is to get into contact with the domain owner for some technical,
billing or administrative reason. By providing my name in whois I am
not declaring my interest in $29.95 Religious PhDs...

NetSol have openly declared they sell to direct marketers which is
particularly shameless and despicable. At least with these other guys
you know you're entering a Faustian pact.

Paul



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Chris Heathcote

on 25/4/01 5:25 pm, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> If you read
> the small print they threaten to disconnect service if whois info isn't
> accurate. Pity you have to supply perfect info for spammers.

I think that's fair, like accepting mail to postmaster@, hostmaster@,
webmaster@ etc. It's not like email addresses are in short supply.

Apparently, NS are currently releasing domain names 3 months after they run
out.

c.
-- 
 every day, computers are making people easier to use

  http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com




Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:26:21PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
> on 25/4/01 10:04 am, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> 
> > Anyway, if anyone wants it I can re-obtain it on the cheap. Register.com
> > sucks.
> 
> This week I am mostly liking gandi.net ...

Await a forthcoming hack of epic proportions...

FWIW, there are registrars asking less than ICANN rates. If you read
the small print they threaten to disconnect service if whois info isn't
accurate. Pity you have to supply perfect info for spammers.

You pays your money..

P



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Robin Houston

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:14:02PM -0500, will wrote:
> 
> An old boss of mine wanted a domain that was expiring in a few weeks once so
> he ran a cron task that checked the status of the domain every hour and
> automatically registered it when it became available.

That's how we got kitsite.com, except that it became available while
Jamie was still testing the script. The gods were smiling on us that
day.

 .robin.

-- 
A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama!
--Guy Jacobson



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Chris Heathcote

on 25/4/01 10:04 am, Paul Makepeace wrote:

> Anyway, if anyone wants it I can re-obtain it on the cheap. Register.com
> sucks.

This week I am mostly liking gandi.net ...

c.
-- 
 every day, computers are making people easier to use

  http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com




Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Rob Partington

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Unfortunately, due to the slovenly fashion in which most places
> (Network Solutions) seem to update their whois databases
> this stands a good chance of being too slow against somebody else
> registering it.

I wrote a script a few years back that downloaded the root zones from
(iirc) doc.ic.ac.uk via FTP and compared them with the previous days
to find expired or new domains.  Checking NS records may be more
reliable than the whois information...
-- 
rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:14:02PM -0500, will wrote:
> An old boss of mine wanted a domain that was expiring in a few weeks once so
> he ran a cron task that checked the status of the domain every hour and
> automatically registered it when it became available.  I am not sure but I
> think they renewed in time :-)

Unfortunately, due to the slovenly fashion in which most places
(Network Solutions) seem to update their whois databases
this stands a good chance of being too slow against somebody else
registering it.

-Dom



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:34:19AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
> It's a cute domain. I haven't seen a domain expire and go to back to
> available in a reasonable period for quite a while, though; they're kept
> on as expired records for $bignum amount of time. :-)

Yeah, I don't know why that is. There are even 'domain watching'
services where you can be notified when the record finally disappears
and then frenetically try to re-obtain it (and then get sued because the
expiry was a mistake :).

Anyway, if anyone wants it I can re-obtain it on the cheap. Register.com
sucks.

P



Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread will

- Original Message -
From: Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: perlismybitch.com


> Yeah, I don't know why that is. There are even 'domain watching'
> services where you can be notified when the record finally disappears
> and then frenetically try to re-obtain it (and then get sued because the
> expiry was a mistake :).

An old boss of mine wanted a domain that was expiring in a few weeks once so
he ran a cron task that checked the status of the domain every hour and
automatically registered it when it became available.  I am not sure but I
think they renewed in time :-)

Will.




Re: perlismybitch.com

2001-04-25 Thread Chris Ball

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:22:44PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> FYI, this domain is about to expire. So if anyone wants it, snag it.
> I was going to transfer it to bulkregister (my preferred registrar)
> but simply couldn't be arsed.

It's a cute domain. I haven't seen a domain expire and go to back to
available in a reasonable period for quite a while, though; they're kept
on as expired records for $bignum amount of time. :-)

Thanks,

Chris.

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Chris Ball.
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perlismybitch.com

2001-04-24 Thread Paul Makepeace

FYI, this domain is about to expire. So if anyone wants it, snag it.
I was going to transfer it to bulkregister (my preferred registrar)
but simply couldn't be arsed.

Paul