Re: another test

[Greg McCarroll]

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> > this is the final test
> 
> No wonder you're number 1 in the posting league.
> 

damn, you seen through my cunning plan

however some would say there is more `signal' in my
tests than in my normal postings ;-)



-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/

Re: another test

[Lucy McWilliam]

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> this is the final test

No wonder you're number 1 in the posting league.


L.
"I've got a touch of the singles."  "Shingles?"  "No, singles."

another test

[Greg McCarroll]

this is the final test

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/

Test of sorts

[Jonathan Stowe]

Since I've changed my mail setup I've had a bit of a problem with resending
the bounced mails - hopefully this will prove that I fixed it :)

You shouldnt be seeing any spurious [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: headers in this
...


/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe 
Analyst/Programmer 
Netscalibur UK
Tel: 0870 887 8841 - Fax: 0870 887 8867



-- 
Email disclaimer: This can be viewed at
http://www.netscalibur.co.uk/email.html 

Re: test

[Philip Newton]

Greg McCarroll wrote:
> just a test

Sorry, didn't arrive in Germany. You have some kind of UK only filter on
these things?

Please sent it again, with the filter turned off.

Cheers,
Philip (feeling testy)
-- 
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Re: test

[Greg McCarroll]

* Dominic Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:06:41AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > just a test
> 
> You say that it's just test.  Who are we to believe you.  In fact, I
> think you're part of the US Govt consipracy to overload foreign networks
> with test messages.  Prove that you're not.
> 

* Makes a quick telephone call *

Dom, see the little red dot thats on your desk right now? Well could you
move your ahead around until it dissappears?

;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: test

[Dominic Mitchell]

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:06:41AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> just a test

You say that it's just test.  Who are we to believe you.  In fact, I
think you're part of the US Govt consipracy to overload foreign networks
with test messages.  Prove that you're not.

-Dom (Not My Real Name)

test

[Greg McCarroll]

just a test

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: Test

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Merijn Broeren wrote:

> # Else use lynx to view it as text
> text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput

Quick question for us non mutt users that may one day consider using
it.  Does this run throgh the shell?  And what's %s in this?  I'm kinda
hoping it's not able to be '; rm -rf ~/*' or worse, if you get my drift

Later.

Mark.

-- 
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
   Name  => 'Mark Fowler',Title => 'Technology Developer'  ,
   Firm  => 'Profero Ltd',Web   => 'http://www.profero.com/'   ,
   Email => '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',   Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960'  )

Re: Test

[Dominic Mitchell]

On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:37:54AM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote:
> On the risk of offending the person who gets really tired of the
> w3m-is-better meme, I prefer w3m because I get send so many tables in
> html, they show up real nice.

I found a problem with w3m (which I admittedly didn't look at for very
long): It doesn't handle   at all.  It made for some very weird
message from NS Confusicator.

-Dom

Re: Test

[Merijn Broeren]

Quoting Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> This is great, thanks! Is it possible to get it to do this *only* when
> the email is content-type: text/html; rather than displaying it instead
> of the text/plain in a multipart/alternative?
> 
Yeah, you set it up in .muttrc :

auto_view text/html application/msword
alternative_order text/enriched text/plain text

set mailcap_path="~/.mutt-mailcap:~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap"

My .mutt-mailcap looks like this :

# Try w3m first
text/html; cathtml.sh %s; copiousoutput

# Send html to a running netscape by remote
text/html;  netscape -remote 'openURL(%s)'; test=RunningNetscape

# Else use lynx to view it as text
text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput

text/*; cat %s ; copiousoutput

application/msword;  catdoc; copiousoutput
application/postscript; ps2ascii %s; copiousoutput

And loads more for images and stuff. Especially catdoc is a godsend. 

Oh, my cathml.sh looks like this :

#!/bin/sh

eval `resize`;

w3m -T text/html -cols $COLUMNS -dump $1;

On the risk of offending the person who gets really tired of the
w3m-is-better meme, I prefer w3m because I get send so many tables in
html, they show up real nice.

Cheerrs,
-- 
Merijn Broeren| Nothing is more poignant in old age than the 
Software Geek | memory of temptation resisted.
  | 

Re: Test

[Dominic Mitchell]

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:57:08PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> > Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users.  How to get HTML viewed easily and
> > automatically.  I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's
> > still better than Lookout.  ;-)
> > 
> > [ ~/.mailcap ]--
> > text/html; /usr/bin/lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html
> > text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput 
> > 
> > 
> > [ ~/.muttrc ]---
> > set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap
> > auto_view text/html
> > 
> 
> This is great, thanks! Is it possible to get it to do this *only* when
> the email is content-type: text/html; rather than displaying it instead
> of the text/plain in a multipart/alternative?

Pass, I'm afraid.

> Another mutt question: How do you send To: a whopping list of
> recipients? It's a nightmare copy/pasting on a single line. I ended
> up editing the headers with E (on the final page) and reading the
> recip.'s in from a file. Seems laborious.

Umm, I find that editing my headers with the message makes the most
sense:

set edit_headers

Then, you can do things like:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ie: indent all following lines, ala RFC822.

-Dom

Re: Test

[Paul Makepeace]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users.  How to get HTML viewed easily and
> automatically.  I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's
> still better than Lookout.  ;-)
> 
> [ ~/.mailcap ]--
> text/html; /usr/bin/lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html
> text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput 
> 
> 
> [ ~/.muttrc ]---
> set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap
> auto_view text/html
> 

This is great, thanks! Is it possible to get it to do this *only* when
the email is content-type: text/html; rather than displaying it instead
of the text/plain in a multipart/alternative?

Another mutt question: How do you send To: a whopping list of
recipients? It's a nightmare copy/pasting on a single line. I ended
up editing the headers with E (on the final page) and reading the
recip.'s in from a file. Seems laborious.

Paul

Re: Test

[Mark Fowler]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> > There's also Mail::Cclient (by Malcolm Beattie) which can be tricky to
> > install

The perl module is a bit of arse to install as well.  It needs access to
the source file of the IMAPd, which not many platforms have handy.

Later.

Mark.

-- 
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
   Name  => 'Mark Fowler',Title => 'Technology Developer'  ,
   Firm  => 'Profero Ltd',Web   => 'http://www.profero.com/'   ,
   Email => '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',   Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960'  )

Re: Test

[Simon Wistow]

Simon Cozens wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> > There's also Mail::Cclient (by Malcolm Beattie) which can be tricky to
> > install and the interface is a bit unfriendly
> 
> That's the fault of the underlying Cclient library. :(

Yeah, tell me about it. 

hence the idea of Mail::Cclient::Simple

Re: Test

[Simon Cozens]

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> There's also Mail::Cclient (by Malcolm Beattie) which can be tricky to
> install and the interface is a bit unfriendly

That's the fault of the underlying Cclient library. :(

-- 
Sendmail may be safely run set-user-id to root.
-- Eric Allman, "Sendmail Installation Guide"

Re: Test

[Simon Wistow]

Simon Cozens wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:19:15PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > Feature request - IMAP client.
> 
> Mail::IMAPClient exists, so I guess it's a real possibility. When I get a
> spare second. (Yeah, right.)

There's also Mail::Cclient (by Malcolm Beattie) which can be tricky to
install and the interface is a bit unfriendly (until I finally get round
to writing Mail::Cclient::Simple) but does EVERYTHING (POP3, IMAP, NNTP,
and Mbox if I ever get round to M::C::S) almsot transparently.

Oh and it does on the fly MIME decoding and fast so you don't need to
leave nasty temporary files lying around when munging.

Re: Test

[David Cantrell]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users.  How to get HTML viewed easily and
> automatically.

Don't bother.  If it was worth saying, it was worth saying properly.

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

This is a signature.  There are many like it but this one is mine.

** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **

Re: Test

[Simon Cozens]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:19:15PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> Feature request - IMAP client.

Mail::IMAPClient exists, so I guess it's a real possibility. When I get a
spare second. (Yeah, right.)

-- 
We *have* dirty minds. This is not news.
- Kake Pugh

Re: Test

[Matthew Byng-Maddick]

On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:30:53PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > However, it's more all these *** job agencies sending me things
> > in multi-crap that I'm shifting home over a modem to read at home.
> > scp -C is good at making things smaller, but not as good as not having
> > crap in the first place.
> If it's just an ordinary Unix mailbox, may I suggest Mail::Audit?

Feature request - IMAP client.

MBM

-- 
Matthew Byng-Maddick   Home: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  +44 20  8980 5714  (Home)
http://colondot.net/   Work: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +44 7956 613942  (Mobile)
What  passes  for  woman's  intuition  is often  nothing  more  than man's
transparency. -- George Nathan

Re: Test

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:

> * at 04/04 15:58 +0100 Robin Houston said:
> > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > > [...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume
> > > my disk space at 4 times the rate.
> >
> > You mean you *archive* this bollocks?
>
> doesn't eveyone archive all their mail? *some* of it *might*
> be useful at some point. and it's not like disk space is at a premium
> these days
>

Er, yes I believe I have on sundry 'pooteys around here the entire life
history of London.pm  


/J\

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.
>

Sort of - pine seems to prefer the disclaimer over the body of the message
as an alternative part but I have just installed it and the configuration
may be shagged ...

/J\

Re: Test

[Struan Donald]

* at 04/04 15:58 +0100 Robin Houston said:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > [...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume
> > my disk space at 4 times the rate.
> 
> You mean you *archive* this bollocks?

doesn't eveyone archive all their mail? *some* of it *might*
be useful at some point. and it's not like disk space is at a premium
these days

struan

Re: Test

[Simon Cozens]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:30:53PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> However, it's more all these *** job agencies sending me things
> in multi-crap that I'm shifting home over a modem to read at home.
> scp -C is good at making things smaller, but not as good as not having
> crap in the first place.

If you're using POP, I have a bunch of utilities for checking mail,
selectively deleting mails and killing duplicates. Mail::POP3Client is
your friend.

If it's just an ordinary Unix mailbox, may I suggest Mail::Audit?


-- 
"Darkly hinting of head hitting desk" 
-- Megahal (trained on asr), 1998-11-05

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Merijn Broeren]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.  
> 
> 
Your message looks like this :

  I 1  [multipa/alternativ, 7bit, 3.4K] 
  I 2 |->[text/plain, quoted, ISO-8859-1, 1.1K] 
  I 3 +->   [multipa/mixed, 7bit, 1.9K] 
  A 4   |->BDY.RTF  [applica/rtf, base64, 0.5K] 
  I 5   +->Legal Disclaimer  [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.9K] 

Amazing powers of obfuscation in Outlook. 
-- 
Merijn Broeren| My hat to keep the Martian brain rays out works just fine.
Software Geek | It's really *good* tin foil.
  | And stop staring at me like that.

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Nicholas Clark]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:15:21PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> > Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.  
> 
> Okay, you have a 17-line corporate .signature. This means that every
> post from you must contain at least 17 lines of Perl/Buffy-related
> discussion or you'll get killfiled ;-)

Surely s/you/that address/ ?

And as I would assume that it's mandatory that anything coming from an
ubsw.com address has that sort of disclaimer on it, wouldn't it be easier
to obtain an address outside ubsw.com so that you can avoid having the
disclaimer in the first place?

Otherwise at least 17 lines of on-topic discussion per message is going to
unacceptably increase the signal to noise on this list, I'd guess.

Nicholas Clark
-- 
ENOJOB: http://plum.flirble.org/~nick/CV.html

Re: Test

[Nicholas Clark]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:58:32PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > [...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume
> > my disk space at 4 times the rate.
> 
> You mean you *archive* this bollocks?
> 
> :-)
> 
>  .robin. (reads london-pm with the 'D' key)

Only when I notice that I have twice as many messages as normal, and
50% are london-pm, at which point whole threads are archived until I get
a chance to read and delete them.

However, it's more all these *** job agencies sending me things
in multi-crap that I'm shifting home over a modem to read at home.
scp -C is good at making things smaller, but not as good as not having
crap in the first place.

Nicholas Clark
-- 
ENOJOB: http://plum.flirble.org/~nick/CV.html

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Greg McCarroll]

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Okay, you have a 17-line corporate .signature. This means that every
> post from you must contain at least 17 lines of Perl/Buffy-related
> discussion or you'll get killfiled ;-)

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Leon Brocard]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following bits through the ether:

> test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.  

Okay, you have a 17-line corporate .signature. This means that every
post from you must contain at least 17 lines of Perl/Buffy-related
discussion or you'll get killfiled ;-)

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/

... How much wood did Peter Piper pick.. no, wait..

Re: Test

[Leon Brocard]

Robin Houston sent the following bits through the ether:

>  .robin. (reads london-pm with the 'D' key)



Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/

... I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere...

Re: Test

[Robin Houston]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> [...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume
> my disk space at 4 times the rate.

You mean you *archive* this bollocks?

:-)

 .robin. (reads london-pm with the 'D' key)

-- 
Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Philip Newton]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.  

I got one mail with text + signature, and an attachment called "Unbenannte
Anlage" (= Unnamed Attachment) with an icon indicating it's a mail message.

Clicking on it reveals an empty message with two attachments: one called
"BDY.RTF" and containing your text (with an MS Word icon) and one called
"Legal Disclaimer" containing the legal junk (with a Notepad icon).

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Robin Szemeti]

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> 
> test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.  

works for me .. theres stuff I dont need, but since it identifies whats
what in the headers I can read it fine in Kmail

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Gareth Harper]

>- Original Message -
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:41 PM
>Subject: Test from uuencode boy
>
>
>test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
>Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.



I recieved that one as the usual signature main body, with 2 attachments
this time, one plain text signature (again), and an attatched rtf file with
the main body..

Outlook express (until I can get my adsl online with linux)

Gareth Harper

Re: Test

[Nicholas Clark]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:42:31PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Clarke, Darren wrote:
> > Sorry all - this is a test... :¬P
> > 
> > Bloomin' Outlook & HTML ... *grumble*
> 
> It's coming through as multipart/alternative, which is fine IMO.
> People with broken mail clients may disagree :-)

I have a non-broken client which copes with multipart/alternative and
I still disagree. For a text message the text part carries all the
information, and the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume
my disk space at 4 times the rate.

Nicholas Clark
-- 
ENOJOB: http://plum.flirble.org/~nick/CV.html

Re: Test from uuencode boy

[Greg McCarroll]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> test.  can you read this one, or is it attached?  This is in Microsoft
> Outlook Rich Text.  The previous mails have been sent in Plain Text.  
> 

thats perfect as far as i'm concerned (mutt user)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: Test

[Robin Houston]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Clarke, Darren wrote:
> Sorry all - this is a test... :¬P
> 
> Bloomin' Outlook & HTML ... *grumble*

It's coming through as multipart/alternative, which is fine IMO.
People with broken mail clients may disagree :-)

 .robin.

-- 
select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,'''','''''')) from (
select 'select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,'''''''','''''''''''')) from (
select ''X'' a from dual)' a from dual)

Test from uuencode boy

[James . Herbert]

 BDY.RTF


Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com

This message contains confidential information and is intended only 
for the individual named.  If you are not the named addressee you 
should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.  Please 
notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this 
e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system.

E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free 
as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, 
arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses.  The sender therefore 
does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents 
of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission.  If 
verification is required please request a hard-copy version.  This 
message is provided for informational purposes and should not be 
construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or 
related financial instruments.

Re: Test

[Dominic Mitchell]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Clarke, Darren wrote:
>Sorry all - this is a test... :¬P
>
>Bloomin' Outlook & HTML ... *grumble*
>
>Darren
>Newbie Loser

You don't get away from a Newbie without learning though.

Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users.  How to get HTML viewed easily and
automatically.  I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's
still better than Lookout.  ;-)

[ ~/.mailcap ]--
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput 


[ ~/.muttrc ]---
set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap
auto_view text/html


-Dom

Re: Test

[Philip Newton]

Clarke, Darren wrote:
> Bloomin' Outlook & HTML ... *grumble* 

I agree. Your mail server lost again.

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Test

[Clarke, Darren]

Title: Test





Sorry all - this is a test... :¬P


Bloomin' Outlook & HTML ... *grumble*


Darren
Newbie Loser

Mail::ListDetector - please test

[Michael Stevens]

Hi.

I have an (as yet unreleased) module called Mail::ListDetector,
which takes a Mail::Internet object, and attempts to tell you if the
message involved was posted to a mailing list, and if so, attempts to
get some details about that list.

I need testers - in particular, see if it builds and passes tests for
you, and throw lots of messages at the sample script and see if you
can get it to be inaccurate for any of them. If you can, please send
me the message in question. (if you don't want to give out the content,
just headers should do).

Currently it should know about majordomo, smartlist, ezmlm, and mailman,
although the majordomo and smartlist guessers are a bit experimental.

It's at:

http://www.etla.org/Mail-ListDetector-0.05.tar.gz

Michael