Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 11:32:19PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, you wrote: [Could you configure your editor/mailer to attribute correctly?] > > Keeping employees 101: Show respect, recognise them, care for > > them and provide opportunity for growth. It's all about the > >

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, you wrote: > Keeping employees 101: Show respect, recognise them, care for > them and provide opportunity for growth. It's all about the > love; that's all anyone really wants. and money ... lots and lots of money ... -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef --)

2001-01-21 Thread Kieran Barry
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > we really want standardisation of technology interfaces in the industry, > > > and threads go a little towards that - oh and a law that alows be to > > > go around and shooting people who work in IT an

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 10:34:54PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > The concept of execution threads within a process makes it easy to share > resources like database connections. As I understand it, that's it. The > pre-forked model that Apache uses has a problem because it's tough to > share resourc

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef --)

2001-01-21 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > > >Yup. There isn't enough talent around, so people get promoted beyond > >their competence. If you train your people they'll only leave. > > > >The only way out of that cycle is to tr

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef --)

2001-01-21 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > y* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > > Ok, it's trolling a bit, but their main use seems to be where > > > you don't want to bother to do proper nonblocking IO... > > > >

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef --)

2001-01-21 Thread Kieran Barry
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > > TCL is used because its multithreaded. Perl 6 is going to be > > multithreaded. It should be able to wipe TCL out. > > I've never actually understood the appeal of threads. Why do > pe

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 11:24:03PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > we really want standardisation of technology interfaces in the industry, > > > and threads go a little towards that - oh and a law that alows be to > > > go around and shooting peop

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > we really want standardisation of technology interfaces in the industry, > > and threads go a little towards that - oh and a law that alows be to > > go around and shooting people who work in IT and i deep unworthy[1]. > > I do agree with this part

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 10:58:54PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > y* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > > Ok, it's trolling a bit, but their main use seems to be where > > > you don't want to bother to do proper nonbl

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Greg McCarroll
y* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > Ok, it's trolling a bit, but their main use seems to be where > > you don't want to bother to do proper nonblocking IO... > > > > They're apparently faster. And make it easier to

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > Ok, it's trolling a bit, but their main use seems to be where > you don't want to bother to do proper nonblocking IO... They're apparently faster. And make it easier to share data. Michael

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 09:06:52PM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > > > TCL is used because its multithreaded. Perl 6 is going to be > > > multithreaded. It should be able to wipe TCL out.

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef --)

2001-01-21 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > > TCL is used because its multithreaded. Perl 6 is going to be > > multithreaded. It should be able to wipe TCL out. > > I've never actually understood the appeal of threads. Why do > pe

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > TCL is used because its multithreaded. Perl 6 is going to be > multithreaded. It should be able to wipe TCL out. I've never actually understood the appeal of threads. Why do people like them? Michael

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: > Yup. There isn't enough talent around, so people get promoted beyond > their competence. If you train your people they'll only leave. > > The only way out of that cycle is to train in-house, > and treat people so well that they stay.

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:37:02PM +, Kieran Barry wrote: >Yup. There isn't enough talent around, so people get promoted beyond >their competence. If you train your people they'll only leave. > >The only way out of that cycle is to train in-house, >and treat people so well that they stay. Wh

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef --)

2001-01-21 Thread Kieran Barry
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Chris Benson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:04:24PM +, Robin Houston wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:01:51PM +, Chris Benson wrote: > > > > > Another link is > > > > > > http://www.arsdigita.com/careers/ > > > > > > They seem to be a very good model for

Re: ArsDigita working practices (was: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- )

2001-01-20 Thread Chris Benson
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:04:24PM +, Robin Houston wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:01:51PM +, Chris Benson wrote: > > > Another link is > > > > http://www.arsdigita.com/careers/ > > > > They seem to be a very good model for a consultancy business > > Personally I wouldn't like t