Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:16:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > [snip] > > > > > > > As one of the requirements listed was content management you can > > > through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, > >

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread James Powell
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:16:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: [snip] > > > > > As one of the requirements listed was content management you can > > through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, > > they even gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. >

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At 11:48 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: > > [snip] > > >As one of the requirements listed was content management you can through > >in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, they even > >gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. > > Does

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:48 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: [snip] >As one of the requirements listed was content management you can through >in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, they even >gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. Does anyone know if that presentation is available online anywhe

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> > >> This is a plea for help. Here is the situation: > > > >[situation snipped] > > > >> My belief is that the LAMP type route provides a very cost effective, > >> portable and scalable solution but I concede that bigger backends are > >> needed for

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Neil Ford
>> >> This is a plea for help. Here is the situation: > >[situation snipped] > >> My belief is that the LAMP type route provides a very cost effective, >> portable and scalable solution but I concede that bigger backends are >> needed for volume transaction systems. > >Funnily enough I am abou

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Ian Brayshaw
> > Is there any benchmarking available of salary bands for > > differing skills, > > i.e. are perl guys much more than ASP guys who can also do > > the other bits ? > > Any other arguments I should be making ! >Yeah, Perl people cost more than ASP people and they're frickin >impossible to find,

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > this is the sort of analysis that IT managers should be good at > > > > Emphasis on *should* as opposed to *are* . > hey i was trying to put it in a nice way -- Greg McCarroll

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> > This is a plea for help. Here is the situation: [situation snipped] > My belief is that the LAMP type route provides a very cost effective, > portable and scalable solution but I concede that bigger backends are > needed for volume transaction systems. Funnily enough I am about half way thr

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > this is the sort of analysis that IT managers should be good at > Emphasis on *should* as opposed to *are* . /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At 11:12 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: > > > This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager who > > > wants to bring all development into one team and use a single toolset for > > > web based applications. > > > >why dont you just tra

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:12 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: > > This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager who > > wants to bring all development into one team and use a single toolset for > > web based applications. > >why dont you just track both projects for a while and get some results >abo

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Dave Cross
At Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:12:47 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager > > who wants to bring all development into one team and use a single > > toolset for web based applications. > > why dont you just track both pr

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
> This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager who > wants to bring all development into one team and use a single toolset for > web based applications. why dont you just track both projects for a while and get some results about the current productivity of both teams, sa