Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Philip Newton

Robert Shiels wrote:
 As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not PC133. I strongly expect
 the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s so either we
 need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase slower
 RAM.

Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able to
use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?

And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the memory
doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
(And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Robert Shiels

From: "Philip Newton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able
to
 use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?

 And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
 speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
 PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the
memory
 doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
 (And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
 doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Well, that sounds encouraging. Lets stick with the current order then - I
didn't know you could mix-n-match the two types of RAM on the same board,
I'm still thrilled that with DIMMs you don't need to add them in matching
pairs :-)

Even if there is a problem, I'll volunteer to buy the PC133 chips for my
server at home.

/Robert




Re: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Jon Galliers

I have a spare pc100 DIMM, 128Mb, CAS2. Could you use this.




Thanks
Jon

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RE: Server Upgrade

2001-04-20 Thread Thomas Barrett

 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg
  
  is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are 
 PC100 and not
  PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able 
 to use the PC133s
  so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order 
 to purchase
  slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch 
 the order Alex?
 
 umm .. I recently obtained some new RAM and got PC133 even 
 though I only
 have a PC100 mobo and it works just fine. In general using 
 faster memory
 in a slower machine is not a problem,  but don't try it the other way
 around. The speed of memory is its minimum guaranteed speed, 
 its usually
 faster than what it says on the tin anyway.

From http://www.directron.com/faqmemory.html
2. Can I mix PC -100 and PC-133 memory in the same system
If the system supports 100MHz memory, you can normally use
133MHz memory in it as well, and can even mix the two. However,
there would be no advantage gained as the 133MHz memory will only
run at the bus speed of 100MHz. Using the 133MHz memory will not
make the system more stable if it is being Over-clocked. Some
systems, though, will balk at the incorrect speed being reported by
the Serial Presence Detect program. We suggest using only the
memory specified by the system manufacturer, and cannot guaranty
that memory which is different than the manufacturer specifies will
be 100% compatible

HTH

TCB