Re: LPRng: Deep distress and begging for guidance

2002-01-07 Thread christoph . beyer

hi,

if your printer just understands pcl you must set up a filter in the
printcap, see the IFHP HOWTO which printertype and configuration might
fit...

regards
~christoph



On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to set up an HP DeskJet 500, I have at least three other
 printers that I'll need to deal with soon, but I'd feel more confident if
 I could get just one to work first.

 Relevant details:
 Debian2.2(potato), LPRng-3.6.12, ghostscript 5.10

 here's a transcript from yet another attempt in which the software seems
 to think it works but the printer sits there in lumpish affront

 Script started on Sat Jan  5 01:53:34 2002
 larry@heron:~$ lpr -V
 Version LPRng-3.6.12
 This is ascii text, and the gd printer probably doesn't know anything but
 PCL, grrr.
 sending job 'larry@heron+11' to lp2@localhost
 connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
 connected to 'localhost'
 requesting printer lp2@localhost
 sending control file 'cfA011heron' to lp2@localhost
 completed sending 'cfA011heron' to lp2@localhost
 sending data file 'dfA011heron' to lp2@localhost
 completed sending 'dfA011heron' to lp2@localhost
 done job 'larry@heron+11' transfer to lp2@localhost
 larry@heron:~$ exit

 Script done on Sat Jan  5 01:56:43 2002

 here's a copy of my /etc/printcap
 #:$Id: printcap,v 1.3 2002/01/05 01:21:45 larry Exp $:
 # /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5).
 # You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for
 # your own filters. See the printcap(5) manual page for further
 # details.
 lp2|HP 500 DeskJet
   :lp=/dev/lp0
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp
   :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs
   :mx#0
   :sh


 What part of the man-pages am I not understanding?

 Would it help things if I got or created a PCL file, and sent that to lp2,
 I'm fairly sure the printer works since it was able to print from a
 windows box earlier, should I switch lp=/dev/lp0 to something else?
 dmesg reports lp0: using parport0 (polling)

 clues devoutly appreciated,
 larry


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Re: LPRng: Error msg

2002-01-07 Thread Johan Bengtsson

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, John Perkins wrote:

  I'm trying to upgrade an older lprng installation to LPRng-3.8.0.
  I keep getting this error message when I'm trying to print from
  workstations:
  
  Read_file_list: cannot stat required file '/etc/lpd.conf' - No such file
  or directory
  
  The server runs Solaris 6, workstations Solaris 8. We don't run lpd on the
  workstations. I put require_configfiles@ and
  force_localhost@ in lpd.conf, didn't help. 
 
 You probably don't want force_localhost@ on the server...just put that on the 
 clients.

We don't run lprng on the clients, only on a central server, so there
shouldn't be _any_ lprng related files on the workstations. That's the way
we're running it now with lprng 3.4.1. I had to go back to the old version
again, since I just could get it to work with 3.8.0. I'll try again soon
and then you'll probably hear from me again... 

-Johan Bengtsson


 
 Try lpc printcap printerqueue on a client and on the server...also verify 
 there actually IS an /etc/lpd.conf file there on the server and on the client 
 machines (and maybe attach a copy of each).
 
 

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LPRng: Ifhp 3.5.2 will not compile on Compaq Alpha DS10 - fixed that, now cores

2002-01-07 Thread jjaddiss



Ifhp V3.5.2 will not compile, actually configure, on my Compaq ES40 or DS10
machines because they are alphaev6 processors and config.sub does not have any
entries for the alphaev6 processor. By adding the alphaev6 in two places I was
able to get ifhp to configure. It compiled fine.

But ifhp still core dumps on every file. The problem is the same as in V3.5.1,
status is null in Do_waitend, but this time in a different place. Ifhp.c line
3116 is the culprit here, again strstr() being called with a null string.

- Justus





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LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?

2002-01-07 Thread David L. R. Houston

Ok, let's try this:

Has anyone gotten LPRng to print *anything* submitted from a *non* UNIX
client at all (eg. Windows, Macintosh)?

I am beginning to believe that I missed the boat completely and that this
simply is not possible using this product. Nothing works except host based
requests (which do work quite well).

Any success stories appreciated before I put this whole project to
sleep...

David Houston
CIT Client Services Coordinator
University of Vermont




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Re: LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?

2002-01-07 Thread Wyman Eric Miles


We've been using it for 3 years now, Windows, MacOS, and UNIX (several
flavors).  What's the problem?

samba and CAP are the Windows/Mac entry point and the UNIX clients use
lpr.


On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:

 Ok, let's try this:

 Has anyone gotten LPRng to print *anything* submitted from a *non* UNIX
 client at all (eg. Windows, Macintosh)?

 I am beginning to believe that I missed the boat completely and that this
 simply is not possible using this product. Nothing works except host based
 requests (which do work quite well).

 Any success stories appreciated before I put this whole project to
 sleep...

   David Houston
   CIT Client Services Coordinator
   University of Vermont




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RE: LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Koehn

David,

We print from Windows client in the following setup all of the time:

Windows Client to Windows Server (SMB) to LPRng Server (LPR).

NT4 and W2K servers.  No problems at all.

Michael Koehn
Abilene Library Consortium
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 David L. R. Houston
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:18 PM
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 Subject: LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?


 Ok, let's try this:

 Has anyone gotten LPRng to print *anything* submitted from a *non* UNIX
 client at all (eg. Windows, Macintosh)?

 I am beginning to believe that I missed the boat completely and that this
 simply is not possible using this product. Nothing works except host based
 requests (which do work quite well).

 Any success stories appreciated before I put this whole project to
 sleep...

   David Houston
   CIT Client Services Coordinator
   University of Vermont




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Re: LPRng: Very strange problem

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Rinaldo

 Excuse me suggesting the obvious, but you may want to check
 - contents of /etc/resolv.conf
 - domain_name entry in /etc/lpd.conf (or wherever you put your
   lpd.conf file)


Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.  :)

It's a very strange problem, and I don't think it has anything to do with it
not knowing what the domain is... it's quite perplexing.  As I put in my
original post, here's an example of what happens:

lpr -Pmyprinter testpage

will actually print.  It will send the job to myprinter.egr.unlv.edu as it
is supposed to, suggesting that the domain name is recognized properly.
However, print job does not seem to filter through ifhp, because, assuming
that testpage is a plain ASCII file, we get stair-stepped output of the
text on the remote printer.  None of the logs or accounting files get
updated for that print job, either.  However, the following WORKS:

lpr [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpage

OR

lpr Pmyprinter@localhost testpage

These commands will send the output through ifhp (and appropriately through
a2ps for the ASCII files) and will update the log files and accounting
files.  We never used to have to specify the @machinename part before, and
this is very very odd.  It's also very very inconvenient for our
6,000-some-odd users that log in remotely to this server to have to be
trained to format the print requests differently.

We also still have the problem (and this is NOT a trivial one to ignore) of
LPC bombing out on us.  for instance:

lpc reread

simply returns back to the command line with no output, and I'm pretty sure
it's not sending the SIGHUP to lpd

Thanks for the help, if you come up with anything else please let me know...
I'll try ANYTHING!!!   :)

---
Keith Rinaldo
Systems Administrator
College of Engineering
University of Nevada, Las Vegas
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message -
From: John Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Keith Rinaldo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: LPRng: Very strange problem


  I've tried every possible way of implementing force_localhost that I
know
  about... first we put it in the printcap file for each printer.  Then we
put
  it in lpd.conf.  Then, I recomplied LPRng
with --force_localhost-disabled.
  We're not having a problem with it looking at the local queues instead
of
  remote queues, just the issue with it having to specify the FQDN.  And
the
  most interesting part is -- you only have to specify the FQDN if you're
  logged in and trying to print from the machine that acts as the print
  server.  Any of our machines that access the print server remotely work
  fine, however if we're actually sitting on the server that runs LPRng,
we
  have to specify the printer names as:

 Excuse me suggesting the obvious, but you may want to check
 - contents of /etc/resolv.conf
 - domain_name entry in /etc/lpd.conf (or wherever you put your
   lpd.conf file)

 Make sure the domain is set correctly in both places; you may have to stop
and
 restart the lpd process to read in any changes in lpd.conf (not sure if
lpc
 reread will do the trick or not).

 --


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Associate Researcher   |   Department of Computer Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   1210 W. Dayton St.
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Re: LPRng: Zero Byte data file from client - always

2002-01-07 Thread Joel Hammer

I don't think is it possible to service non-unix clients without
installing samba. All samba really does for you in a printing situation
is transfer the printfile to a temp file on your Solaris server and run
your print command to process that file.

I don't know anything about Macs but windows clients do fine with samba.

When you set up samba, keep it really simple to start with. Just set up
one printer share at first, and be explicit with the commands required
to print in the printer share definition. Remember, the printer command
is what you tell samba, so you can make the samba server do anything
you want with the temp file. As well as any other tasks you might want
to happen during printing.

BTW, you seem to be suffering from task overload, which is a name used
to describe what happened to fighter pilots in WWII when there was too
much happening around them to keep track of and they became disoriented
during a dogfight. The results were what you might expect.

I would first install samba on your Solaris server, and throughly test
it out from the Solaris server. You can put the printing and file shares
through their paces without having to use a networked client, Solaris or
otherwise.  Once that all works, then try printing from the networked
non-unix clients. Remember, windows clients will do their own filtering of
the print job. Your solaris server will likely simply dump the printfile to
the printer using a queue which has no print filter or whose print filter does
not try to format the job.  Keep it simple. For example, at first, install the
printing software locally on your clients, don't try to configure your
server to download the software to your clients at the start. This stuff
is all really simple once you see what is going on.

If you need some help with print filters, and you really shouldn't to
print from windows clients, read my write up of filters with LPRng at
the linux stepbystep site.  http://linux.nf/stepbystep.html
Search for filters hammer.

Joel



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Re: LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?

2002-01-07 Thread Ryan Novosielski

Yes. I send jobs via LPR without a problem using the software that
apparently comes with HP Printers. The printer port is referred to as HP
Standard TCP/IP Port. The only time this didn't work was with a Windows
NT server accepting jobs from a lab and then forwarding them to LPRng --
the queue would often hang and the NT machine's queue status said
Restarting.

But, yes, for a lab of about 20 Windows PC's, maybe more, I am
successfully using LPRng to recieve LPR spooled jobs in my university.

 _  _ _  _ ___  _  _  _
|Y#| |  | |\/| |  \ |\ |  |  | Ryan Novosielski - Jr. UNIX Systems Admin
|$| |__| |  | |__/ | \| _|  | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922)
\__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent. | IST/ACS - New Jersey Medical School - C630

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:

 Ok, let's try this:

 Has anyone gotten LPRng to print *anything* submitted from a *non* UNIX
 client at all (eg. Windows, Macintosh)?

 I am beginning to believe that I missed the boat completely and that this
 simply is not possible using this product. Nothing works except host based
 requests (which do work quite well).

 Any success stories appreciated before I put this whole project to
 sleep...

   David Houston
   CIT Client Services Coordinator
   University of Vermont




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Re: LPRng: Zero Byte data file from client - always

2002-01-07 Thread Phil Moses

I have windows clients printing to lprng on a Solaris box without using
Samba. 
I am able to do this by installing unix print services for windows (or
something similar to this name.) 
By doing so, you cannot browse printers through network neighborhood but
you can set them up just as you would a unix printer, using hostname or ip
and port then they are available under the printers menu.

Anyway, this is just information I am passing along. 

Thanks,

Phil

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Joel Hammer wrote:

 I don't think is it possible to service non-unix clients without
 installing samba. All samba really does for you in a printing situation
 is transfer the printfile to a temp file on your Solaris server and run
 your print command to process that file.
 
 I don't know anything about Macs but windows clients do fine with samba.
 
 When you set up samba, keep it really simple to start with. Just set up
 one printer share at first, and be explicit with the commands required
 to print in the printer share definition. Remember, the printer command
 is what you tell samba, so you can make the samba server do anything
 you want with the temp file. As well as any other tasks you might want
 to happen during printing.
 
 BTW, you seem to be suffering from task overload, which is a name used
 to describe what happened to fighter pilots in WWII when there was too
 much happening around them to keep track of and they became disoriented
 during a dogfight. The results were what you might expect.
 
 I would first install samba on your Solaris server, and throughly test
 it out from the Solaris server. You can put the printing and file shares
 through their paces without having to use a networked client, Solaris or
 otherwise.  Once that all works, then try printing from the networked
 non-unix clients. Remember, windows clients will do their own filtering of
 the print job. Your solaris server will likely simply dump the printfile to
 the printer using a queue which has no print filter or whose print filter does
 not try to format the job.  Keep it simple. For example, at first, install the
 printing software locally on your clients, don't try to configure your
 server to download the software to your clients at the start. This stuff
 is all really simple once you see what is going on.
 
 If you need some help with print filters, and you really shouldn't to
 print from windows clients, read my write up of filters with LPRng at
 the linux stepbystep site.  http://linux.nf/stepbystep.html
 Search for filters hammer.
 
 Joel
 
 
 
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Re: LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Rinaldo

We, as well, have a number of Win2K Pro boxes that print directly to
printers.egr.unlv.edu using the LPR services.

It works nicely.

---
Keith Rinaldo
Systems Administrator
College of Engineering
University of Nevada, Las Vegas
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- Original Message -
From: Andrew Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: LPRng: Printing from non UNIX clients possible?



 I believe he was referring to direct LPR-style connections from non-unix
 systems, not connections through a program like Samba.  We use both styles
 here.  The majority of our printing is done through Samba and Netatalk,
 but we do have several Windows 2000 Terminal Servers which print directly
 to port 515 on our LPRng print server.

 Andy

 On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Wyman Eric Miles wrote:

 
  We've been using it for 3 years now, Windows, MacOS, and UNIX (several
  flavors).  What's the problem?
 
  samba and CAP are the Windows/Mac entry point and the UNIX clients use
  lpr.
 
 
  On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, David L. R. Houston wrote:
 
   Ok, let's try this:
  
   Has anyone gotten LPRng to print *anything* submitted from a *non*
UNIX
   client at all (eg. Windows, Macintosh)?
  
   I am beginning to believe that I missed the boat completely and that
this
   simply is not possible using this product. Nothing works except host
based
   requests (which do work quite well).
  
   Any success stories appreciated before I put this whole project to
   sleep...
  
   David Houston
   CIT Client Services Coordinator
   University of Vermont
  
  
  
  
 
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