Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang

2023-08-29 Thread Gyan Mishra
Support Thanks Gyan On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:27 PM Christian Hopps wrote: > > This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending Sep 1, 2023, for: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang/ > > Authors, > > Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of any IPR

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Gyan Mishra
I am not aware of any undisclosed IPRs. Thanks Gyan On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 4:02 PM Acee Lindem wrote: > Co-Authors, > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-posenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see >

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi Yao Yes there would be a way to tell the virtual instances apart from routing protocol perspective exactly as you stated could be different router-id and virtual / sub ports similar to line card case where each line card is a different virtual routing instance. Here are the MSD cases

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+1 Tony > On Aug 29, 2023, at 7:18 AM, Tony Li wrote: > > > Hi Eduard, > > I know several different products that use different silicon on different > line cards, ending up with different capabilities on different interfaces. > > This is more of a hardware issue than a software one. > >

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread liu.yao71
Hi Tony, Hi Les, Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. The per-link RLD will be taken into account regardless of the scope of ERLD-MSD and the draft will be continuously refined based on the WG's discussion and conclusion. Kind Regards, Yao Original From: LesGinsberg(ginsberg)

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-29 Thread Acee Lindem
Speaking as WG member: I support WG adoption. This draft solves the WG agreed upon problem of notification of a prefix being unreachable to other applications without modifying the routing table and with a fully backward compatible mechanism. There is running vendor code and operators who are

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
I am in agreement with Tony. It seems that there are potential use cases for link specific RLD. As to why RFC 9088 chose to prohibit use of link specific ERLD, the authors of that RFC are in the best position to answer. One possible explanation is “simplicity”. This aspect is discussed in

[Lsr] Regd draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement

2023-08-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar
< changing subject so as not to hijack the ongoing WG adoption poll thread > Hi Aijun, One only needs to search the LSR WG archives for the discussions, comments and feedback given on draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement by many participants (including me) over the past many years to

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Tony Li
Hi Eduard, I know several different products that use different silicon on different line cards, ending up with different capabilities on different interfaces. This is more of a hardware issue than a software one. Different chips will necessarily have different low layer micro-code. That

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Tony Li
Hi Yao, IMHO, that was a mistake in the specification of ERLD. I’m hopeful that we don’t repeat the same mistake. Tony > On Aug 29, 2023, at 1:22 AM, > wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > > > Thanks a lot for your suggestion. This scenario would be taken into > consideration. > > But on the

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Tony Li
Hi Robert, Precise interface information naturally falls out of any path computation done for traffic engineering. Regards, Tony > On Aug 29, 2023, at 2:31 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > Unless you are using precise interface based packet steering (which may not > be a great

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Xuguoqi
Object its adoption. This document does not solves area/domain partition, but this is a very common scenario. From the perspective of comprehensiveness and maturity, I think https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ Draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement is a better choice. Thanks, Guoqi Xu

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-08-29 Thread bruno . decraene
For the record, -04 published last week adequately addresses my comments. -- Bruno Orange Restricted -Original Message- From: DECRAENE Bruno INNOV/NET Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 11:12 AM To: Peter Psenak Cc: lsr Subject: RE: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce Thanks

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Huzhibo
Object its adoption. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/ (PUA) covering all use cases and scenarios in this document, the PUA describes additional more useful use cases and scenarios, including: 1. PUA solves area/domain partition, which is necessary

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-29 Thread Huzhibo
Object its adoption. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/ (PUA) covering all use cases and scenarios in this document, the PUA describes additional more useful use cases and scenarios, including: 1. PUA solves area/domain partition, which is necessary

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 29/08/2023 02:54, Robert Raszuk wrote: Ok so you are saying it is still perfectly fine to flood domain wide per node MSDs and completely ground breaking to flood per the very same amount of nodes one loopback prefix ... Interesting. I'm not saying you should flood MSD domain

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Robert Raszuk
Ok so you are saying it is still perfectly fine to flood domain wide per node MSDs and completely ground breaking to flood per the very same amount of nodes one loopback prefix ... Interesting. Thx. R. On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 11:52 AM Peter Psenak wrote: > Robert, > > On 29/08/2023 02:23,

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 29/08/2023 02:23, Robert Raszuk wrote: Well takeMSDs ... I would think remote PE may find useful to know them (ie. what is the capability of egress PE). Why those would not be needed outside of an area I do not get. MSDs are advertise per node or per link, nothing to do with

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Tony, Unless you are using precise interface based packet steering (which may not be a great idea to start with) how do you know on which line card type your packets arrive/exit ? Just curious ... Thx, R. On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 4:36 AM Tony Li wrote: > > Hi Yao, > > Please consider the

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread liu.yao71
Hi Gyan, If I understand you right, in the virtualization scenario, eventually there would be some way to tell virtual routing instances apart from the routing protocol's perspective, either they can be treated as different routers with different router ID (taking OSPF as an example), or

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Robert Raszuk
Well takeMSDs ... I would think remote PE may find useful to know them (ie. what is the capability of egress PE). Why those would not be needed outside of an area I do not get. Thx, R. On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 10:38 AM Peter Psenak wrote: > Robert, > > On 28/08/2023 14:19, Robert Raszuk wrote:

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Martin.Horneffer
Support from my side as well! I think it’s essential for a large-scale operator’s network when using SRv6. Best regards, Martin Von: Lsr im Auftrag von Gyan Mishra Datum: Dienstag, 29. August 2023 um 01:27 An: Acee Lindem Cc: draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-annou...@ietf.org , lsr

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 28/08/2023 14:19, Robert Raszuk wrote: Daniel, > [DV] No, there’s no need to leak and advertise You mean there is no need for RFC9352 in your network. If so - great. I was however asking the question: if network needs to advertise any of the information defined in RFC9352 would

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread liu.yao71
Hi Tony, Thanks a lot for your suggestion. This scenario would be taken into consideration. But on the other hand, what I haven't understood is that why ERLD-MSD is limited to per-node scope considering that each line card may have different capabilities to read through the label stack.

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Ketan:Which part in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement/ is not workable?I want to remind you again that it is the above draft initiates the problem first, insists that the explicit signaling was the direction, covers more scenarios that draft-ppsenak

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-liu-lsr-mpls-inspection-msd-01.txt

2023-08-29 Thread Vasilenko Eduard
Hi Tony, Do you know any product that supports different label (or SID) stacks on different PFEs? (Not mandatory to disclose the vendor) I remember many major upgrades for many vendors and all the time the whole router supported the “common denominator”. Of course, it is possible to develop code