Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Thanks Peter and the changes look good to me. Thanks, Ketan On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 3:25 PM Peter Psenak wrote: > Hi Ketan, > > > On 13/05/2022 15:32, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > > > Thanks for your updates to the draft and your responses below. > > > > I would like to point out

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

On 5/16/22, 8:12 AM, "Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi Acee, On 16/05/2022 13:25, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On 5/16/22, 6:48 AM, "Peter Psenak" wrote: > > Hi Acee, > > thanks for your comments, I have incorporated them all. >

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Acee, On 16/05/2022 13:25, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: Hi Peter, On 5/16/22, 6:48 AM, "Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi Acee, thanks for your comments, I have incorporated them all. Please see one response inline: On 13/05/2022 22:28, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

ast Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" Hi, Acee and Peter: I don’t still think this document is necessary, unless you can answer the following questions clearly: 1) Section 5 about the “Advertising IP Flex-Algorithm Reachabil

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, On 5/16/22, 6:48 AM, "Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi Acee, thanks for your comments, I have incorporated them all. Please see one response inline: On 13/05/2022 22:28, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Thanks for addressing the WG last comments

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Acee, thanks for your comments, I have incorporated them all. Please see one response inline: On 13/05/2022 22:28, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for addressing the WG last comments relating to terminology and IGP flex-algorithm data-plane granularity. I also have some

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, On 13/05/2022 15:32, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for your updates to the draft and your responses below. I would like to point out a few remaining points to be fixed/addressed. a) There is a discrepancy regarding the size of the Metric field for the OSPFv2 IP Algo

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, sure, thanks for catching those, I'll fix them in next revision. thanks, Peter On 13/05/2022 15:32, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for your updates to the draft and your responses below. I would like to point out a few remaining points to be fixed/addressed. a) There

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, Thanks for your updates to the draft and your responses below. I would like to point out a few remaining points to be fixed/addressed. a) There is a discrepancy regarding the size of the Metric field for the OSPFv2 IP Algo Reachability sub-TLV between the figure and the text

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, please see inline (##PP): On 11/04/2022 08:25, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hello All, Following are some comments on this draft: 1) Is this draft about opening the use of all IGP Algorithms for IP (Algo) Routing or intended to be specific to Flexible Algorithms (i.e. algo 128-255)

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

>>> >>> Peter - >>> >>> >>> >>> I am in agreement. >>> >>> >>> >>> However, the IANA section of the draft is missing some necessary >>> information. >>> >>> The new top

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

TH > > > > Les > > > > > > *From:* Aijun Wang > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 3, 2022 3:10 PM > *To:* Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > *Cc:* Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Acee Lindem (acee) < > a...@cisco.com>; lsr@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org >

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t;>>>> China Telecom > > >>>>>>> On May 3, 2022, at 14:46, Peter Psenak > > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Aijun, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> O

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; > Cc: Acee Lindem (acee) ; lsr@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 > - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" > > [External Email. Be cautious of content] &g

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

3, 2022 1:35 PM To: Aijun Wang ; Peter Psenak Cc: Acee Lindem (acee) ; lsr@ietf.org; draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" [External Email. B

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

g>; > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - > "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" > > Aijun, > > On 03/05/2022

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

r Psenak > > Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:14 AM > > To: Aijun Wang ; Peter Psenak > > > > Cc: Acee Lindem (acee) ; lsr@ietf.org; > > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for > > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04

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for inter-area inter-AS prefixes for SR-MPLS data-plane. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> SR MPLS and IP are independent data-planes used for flex-algo. We > can not mix their metric. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> thanks, > >&

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r] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" This begins a WG last call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04. The draft had a lot of support and discussion initially and has been stable for some time. Please review

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er-AS prefixes for SR-MPLS >>>>> data-plane. >>>>> >>>>> SR MPLS and IP are independent data-planes used for flex-algo. We can not >>>>> mix their metric. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> Peter >

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

*From: *Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" *Date: *Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM *To: *"lsr@ietf.org" *Cc: *"draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" *Subject: *[Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible A

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

t;> The WG last call has completed. We will submit an updated version of the >>>>> document for publication with the terminology changes based on the >>>>> discussion amongst the authors, Ketan, Robert, Gyan, and others. >>>>> >>>&g

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

uthors, Ketan, Robert, Gyan, and others. Thanks, Acee *From: *Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" *Date: *Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM *To: *"lsr@ietf.org" *Cc: *"draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" *Subject: *[Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

the >>> discussion amongst the authors, Ketan, Robert, Gyan, and others. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Acee >>> >>> *From: *Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" >>> >>> *Date: *Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM >>> *To: *"

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

, Acee *From: *Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" *Date: *Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM *To: *"lsr@ietf.org" *Cc: *"draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" *Subject: *[Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Al

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

3:07 PM > To: "lsr@ietf.org" > Cc: "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" > > Subject: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - > "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" > > This begins a WG last call

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

il 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" Subject: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" This begins a WG last call for draft-ietf-l

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi, Acee and authors of this draft: Want to know why the “IS-IS Flexible Algorithm Prefix Metric Sub-TLV” and “OSPF Flexible Algorithm Prefix Metric Sub-TLV” etc that defined in sec 8-10 of draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo can’t be used to accomplish the same effect? Aijun Wang >> > On Fri, Apr 8,

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

of the SR forwarding plane. We already > > have BIER and MLDP forwarding planes as users of the IGP FlexAlgo. My > > suggestion is to remove such assertions from the document. It is > > sufficient to just say that the document enables the use of IGP FlexAlgo > > for IP prefixes with

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

t; mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> Cc: Acee Lindem mailto:a...@cisco.com>>, Ketan Talaulikar mailto:ketant.i...@gmail.com>>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>" mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>>, "lsr@

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

lt; > ketant.i...@gmail.com>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>, "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" < > ppse...@cisco.com> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "I

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

1:46 AM > *To: *Ketan Talaulikar > *Cc: *Acee Lindem , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" < > ppse...@cisco.com>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>, lsr > *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for > draft-iet

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

.com> > *Date: *Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:38 PM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *"lsr@ietf.org" , Ketan Talaulikar < > ketant.i...@gmail.com>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>, "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)&q

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Date: Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 11:46 AM To: Ketan Talaulikar Cc: Acee Lindem , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" , "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" , lsr Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

, April 15, 2022 at 10:38 PM To: Acee Lindem Cc: "lsr@ietf.org" , Ketan Talaulikar , "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-A

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

I support WG adoption of IP Flex Algo as an extension to the base IGP Flex Algo. This is a highly valuable extension for operators that can now apply to any IP based networks. One of the major benefits to migrating SR is being able to use Flex Algo for network slicing capabilities. Now with IP

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

>>>> This as well is quite confusing to me as if IGP Flex Algo can be used >>>> outside of SR then can do everything that this draft is supposed to >>>> accomplish. >>>> >>>> So what then is the purpose of this draft? >>>> >>>

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ec >>> explicitly >>> > opens it up for usage outside of the SR forwarding plane. We already >>> > have BIER and MLDP forwarding planes as users of the IGP FlexAlgo. My >>> > suggestion is to remove such assertions from the document. It is &

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

;> > suggestion is to remove such assertions from the document. It is >>> > sufficient to just say that the document enables the use of IGP FlexAlgo >>> > for IP prefixes with native IP forwarding. >>> >>> ##PP >>> where do you see such as

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

endently. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:51 PM Acee Lindem (acee) >> wrote: >> >>> Gyan, >>> >>> >>> >>> What is your point here? Is this a trick question? >>> >>> >>> >>> Th

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

t; Gyan, >> >> >> >> What is your point here? Is this a trick question? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Acee >> >> >> >> *From: *Gyan Mishra >> *Date: *Friday, April 15, 2022 at 5:31 PM >> *To: *"Peter Psen

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

m>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>, "lsr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) > In IP Networks" >

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" Hi Peter My understanding is that the main goal of this draft is to be able to use flex algo over IPv4 or IPv6 data plane as that is not possible with existing

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter My understanding is that the main goal of this draft is to be able to use flex algo over IPv4 or IPv6 data plane as that is not possible with existing Flex Algo which can only be used on SR data plane. Is that correct or am I missing something?

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draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>; Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:acee=40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks&

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Psenak ; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" Hi John, In the IETF context I have always associated ‘data plane’ with packet forwarding, No one disputes that. Bu

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.com>>, Acee Lindem mailto:a...@cisco.com>>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>" mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org>>, "lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>" mailto:lsr@ietf.org>> Subjec

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

senak)" , Ketan Talaulikar , Acee Lindem , "draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org" , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" Hi John, In the IETF cont

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi John, In the IETF context I have always associated ‘data plane’ with packet > forwarding, > No one disputes that. But the fact that various sub-data-planes are built on top of base physical data planes needs to be clearly distinguished. Kind regards, R.

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Talaulikar ; Acee Lindem (acee) ; draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexa...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Peter, Term "data

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hey Peter, It seems that we have double layer of confusion here. First layer is what you are referring as applications in context of ASLA: RSVP-TE FRR (ex: LFA) Flex-Algo My suggestion about custom/logical topology/dataplane was in reference to the above. Then apparently we have more nested

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] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" Hi Peter, Please check inline below with KT2. I am trimming everything other than the one point of continuing debate. > > > > 2) The relatio

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Robert, On 14/04/2022 11:21, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hi Peter, Term "data-plane" usually means physical resources links, switch fabric, ASIC etc ... so I am afraid it will also generate confusion with default data plane. How about two alternatives: - custom/logical topology -

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, Term "data-plane" usually means physical resources links, switch fabric, ASIC etc ... so I am afraid it will also generate confusion with default data plane. How about two alternatives: - custom/logical topology - logical-data-plane Thx, Robert. On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 9:27 AM

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, On 13/04/2022 15:56, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hi Peter, I would still reiterate the need to clarify the usage of "application" terminology in the base FlexAlgo spec. We don't need to call it "data-plane", I was suggesting "forwarding mechanism" or it can be something else as well.

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, I would still reiterate the need to clarify the usage of "application" terminology in the base FlexAlgo spec. We don't need to call it "data-plane", I was suggesting "forwarding mechanism" or it can be something else as well. Just my 2c Thanks, Ketan On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 2:35 PM

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Hi Robert, Please check inline below with KT4. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 1:31 PM Robert Raszuk wrote: > Hi Ketan, > > > KT2> I see the primary use case for IP FlexAlgo (or another data plane) >> > to be that the data plane is used by itself. In the (rare?) case where >> > multiple data planes

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, please see inline (##PP4): On 13/04/2022 10:52, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hi Peter, I will not press this point further if I am the only one that finds this complexity without any benefit. :-) Please check inline below for some clarifications with KT3. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, I will not press this point further if I am the only one that finds this complexity without any benefit. :-) Please check inline below for some clarifications with KT3. On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 12:47 PM Peter Psenak wrote: > Hi Ketan, > > > please see inline (##PP3): > > On

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, > KT2> I see the primary use case for IP FlexAlgo (or another data plane) > > to be that the data plane is used by itself. In the (rare?) case where > > multiple data planes are required to coexist, it is simpler both from > > implementation and deployment POV to use different algos. It

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, please see inline (##PP3): On 13/04/2022 06:00, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hi Peter, Please check inline below with KT2. I am trimming everything other than the one point of continuing debate. >      > >      > 2) The relationship between the algo usage for IP FlexAlgo

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, Please check inline below with KT2. I am trimming everything other than the one point of continuing debate. > > > > > 2) The relationship between the algo usage for IP FlexAlgo and > other > > > data planes (e.g. FlexAlgo with SR) is not very clear. There arise > >

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, please see inline (##PP2): On 11/04/2022 16:02, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hi Peter, Please check inline below. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 1:06 PM Peter Psenak > wrote: Hi Ketan, please responses to some of your comments inline (##PP): On

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Peter, Please check inline below. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 1:06 PM Peter Psenak wrote: > Hi Ketan, > > please responses to some of your comments inline (##PP): > > On 11/04/2022 08:25, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > Following are some comments on this draft: > > > > 1) Is

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hi Ketan, please responses to some of your comments inline (##PP): On 11/04/2022 08:25, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Hello All, Following are some comments on this draft: 1) Is this draft about opening the use of all IGP Algorithms for IP (Algo) Routing or intended to be specific to Flexible

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

Hello All, Following are some comments on this draft: 1) Is this draft about opening the use of all IGP Algorithms for IP (Algo) Routing or intended to be specific to Flexible Algorithms (i.e. algo 128-255) alone. I think it is important to specify the scope unambiguously. Perhaps it makes sense

[Lsr] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04 - "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks"

This begins a WG last call for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-04. The draft had a lot of support and discussion initially and has been stable for some time. Please review and send your comments, support, or objection to this list before 12 AM UTC on April 22nd, 2022. Thanks, Acee